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		<title>By: Wishing in Vain</title>
		<link>http://bajan.wordpress.com/2008/01/10/to-you-the-dumb-set-the-lost-setdlp/#comment-19229</link>
		<dc:creator>Wishing in Vain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 13:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let us compare the two political campaings todate.

The DLP have had the blp on the back foot from the outset of this election, theDLP&#039;S campaing has been well thought out and has dealt with the issues facing the people and it is one  that has been thought thru by ordinary citizens and the people of this island, on the other hand the blp has been run on replies to the DLP and fear Tactics and hype but most amazeingly it is not a campaign that was created by local minds with locals in their thoughts this campaign has been the brain child of  one ROY BOYKE who is from TRINIDAD and he the CLOWN JEVAN from RED ADVERTISING my only comment to this is this is a sad display of your professional skills to the two of you.

However keep the work up it is helping the success of the DLP by leaps and bounds so congrats  to you both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let us compare the two political campaings todate.</p>
<p>The DLP have had the blp on the back foot from the outset of this election, theDLP&#8217;S campaing has been well thought out and has dealt with the issues facing the people and it is one  that has been thought thru by ordinary citizens and the people of this island, on the other hand the blp has been run on replies to the DLP and fear Tactics and hype but most amazeingly it is not a campaign that was created by local minds with locals in their thoughts this campaign has been the brain child of  one ROY BOYKE who is from TRINIDAD and he the CLOWN JEVAN from RED ADVERTISING my only comment to this is this is a sad display of your professional skills to the two of you.</p>
<p>However keep the work up it is helping the success of the DLP by leaps and bounds so congrats  to you both.</p>
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		<title>By: Green(back) man</title>
		<link>http://bajan.wordpress.com/2008/01/10/to-you-the-dumb-set-the-lost-setdlp/#comment-19135</link>
		<dc:creator>Green(back) man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 20:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The man is just a cog in the BLP yardfowl wheel who blindly follow their propaganda instructions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The man is just a cog in the BLP yardfowl wheel who blindly follow their propaganda instructions.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://bajan.wordpress.com/2008/01/10/to-you-the-dumb-set-the-lost-setdlp/#comment-19037</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 05:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of you have questioned why we published this article. The writer has a view which we were unable to rationalize or apply any kind of logic. In other words it had no rhyme or reason. It was for that reason that we published it :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of you have questioned why we published this article. The writer has a view which we were unable to rationalize or apply any kind of logic. In other words it had no rhyme or reason. It was for that reason that we published it :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Wuh de...</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wuh de...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 04:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Georgie Porgie  // January 12, 2008 at 12:20 am

please tell Mr. David Estwick that I like to hear what he has to say –but only when I can actually understand it. He needs to tone it down a bit so that people can understand what he is saying because he is talking sensibly!!&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;b&gt;I see. You cannot understand what he is saying but you say he is talking sensibly.

You are what we call a goat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Georgie Porgie  // January 12, 2008 at 12:20 am</p>
<p>please tell Mr. David Estwick that I like to hear what he has to say –but only when I can actually understand it. He needs to tone it down a bit so that people can understand what he is saying because he is talking sensibly!!&#8221;</i></p>
<p><b>I see. You cannot understand what he is saying but you say he is talking sensibly.</p>
<p>You are what we call a goat.</b></p>
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		<title>By: Georgie Porgie</title>
		<link>http://bajan.wordpress.com/2008/01/10/to-you-the-dumb-set-the-lost-setdlp/#comment-19031</link>
		<dc:creator>Georgie Porgie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 04:20:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DLP 
Could you please make recrdings of the meetings available for us who were unable to make the meeting as the bees do.

Also your old format on your site where the viewer had the choice to select the meeting and the speakers was so much better - could we have this back? 

please tell Mr. David Estwick that I like to hear what he has to say –but only when I can actually understand it. He needs to tone it down a bit so that people can understand what he is saying because he is talking sensibly!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DLP<br />
Could you please make recrdings of the meetings available for us who were unable to make the meeting as the bees do.</p>
<p>Also your old format on your site where the viewer had the choice to select the meeting and the speakers was so much better &#8211; could we have this back? </p>
<p>please tell Mr. David Estwick that I like to hear what he has to say –but only when I can actually understand it. He needs to tone it down a bit so that people can understand what he is saying because he is talking sensibly!!</p>
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		<title>By: bajanyankee</title>
		<link>http://bajan.wordpress.com/2008/01/10/to-you-the-dumb-set-the-lost-setdlp/#comment-19022</link>
		<dc:creator>bajanyankee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 03:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tuesday thats why they call it the Classified Ads, the definition of working class means the working poor and those that are underemployed.Answer me do you own a piece or matter of fact how many people could afford the ridiculous prices for a piece of land with minimal view.

Common Tuesday get with the program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tuesday thats why they call it the Classified Ads, the definition of working class means the working poor and those that are underemployed.Answer me do you own a piece or matter of fact how many people could afford the ridiculous prices for a piece of land with minimal view.</p>
<p>Common Tuesday get with the program.</p>
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		<title>By: Georgie Porgie</title>
		<link>http://bajan.wordpress.com/2008/01/10/to-you-the-dumb-set-the-lost-setdlp/#comment-19019</link>
		<dc:creator>Georgie Porgie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 03:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont know  how to find DLPTV 
I check into the DLP website but I can only find recorded speeches by Thompson.

Is there something else?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont know  how to find DLPTV<br />
I check into the DLP website but I can only find recorded speeches by Thompson.</p>
<p>Is there something else?</p>
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		<title>By: bajanyankee</title>
		<link>http://bajan.wordpress.com/2008/01/10/to-you-the-dumb-set-the-lost-setdlp/#comment-19017</link>
		<dc:creator>bajanyankee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 03:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clyde Mascoll speaks through both corners of his mouth.Please don&#039;t vote him in. Any politician that crosses the floor should never be trusted. Clyde needs to pack his georgie bundle and head on out to the IMF or the World Bank.

By doing this his corruption and fraudulent behavior would be justified at a global level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clyde Mascoll speaks through both corners of his mouth.Please don&#8217;t vote him in. Any politician that crosses the floor should never be trusted. Clyde needs to pack his georgie bundle and head on out to the IMF or the World Bank.</p>
<p>By doing this his corruption and fraudulent behavior would be justified at a global level.</p>
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		<title>By: TUESDAY</title>
		<link>http://bajan.wordpress.com/2008/01/10/to-you-the-dumb-set-the-lost-setdlp/#comment-19016</link>
		<dc:creator>TUESDAY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 03:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Georgie Porgie,

How come you don&#039;t ever watch DLP-TV?

Is it unappealing to you, or just off-air?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Georgie Porgie,</p>
<p>How come you don&#8217;t ever watch DLP-TV?</p>
<p>Is it unappealing to you, or just off-air?</p>
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		<title>By: TUESDAY</title>
		<link>http://bajan.wordpress.com/2008/01/10/to-you-the-dumb-set-the-lost-setdlp/#comment-19015</link>
		<dc:creator>TUESDAY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 03:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bajanyankee,

YOU SAID: &quot;The working class cannot even purchase land in their homeland&quot;

Perhaps living in the USA has frozen your brain.

Every day the classified ads in the Nation newspaper are full of land for sale notices as well as those notices from lawyers when land is being sold.

Come with another lie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bajanyankee,</p>
<p>YOU SAID: &#8220;The working class cannot even purchase land in their homeland&#8221;</p>
<p>Perhaps living in the USA has frozen your brain.</p>
<p>Every day the classified ads in the Nation newspaper are full of land for sale notices as well as those notices from lawyers when land is being sold.</p>
<p>Come with another lie.</p>
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		<title>By: Georgie Porgie</title>
		<link>http://bajan.wordpress.com/2008/01/10/to-you-the-dumb-set-the-lost-setdlp/#comment-19012</link>
		<dc:creator>Georgie Porgie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 03:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How come Clyde Mascoll is defending the ABC Hghway project tonight when in the no confidence debate against him in the Hardwood affair he told the house why they dont investigate the ABC Hghway project  instead?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How come Clyde Mascoll is defending the ABC Hghway project tonight when in the no confidence debate against him in the Hardwood affair he told the house why they dont investigate the ABC Hghway project  instead?</p>
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		<title>By: bajanyankee</title>
		<link>http://bajan.wordpress.com/2008/01/10/to-you-the-dumb-set-the-lost-setdlp/#comment-19011</link>
		<dc:creator>bajanyankee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 03:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>3 to 4 demonstrates there is a high level of dictatoship brewing in Barbados. Bajans its time to look at your African brothers and sisters and the price they are paying for allowing these greedy governments  to stay in power for extended periods.

Go out and vote and make that change. If this is not done you will surely not be allowed to call Barbados home. The working class cannot even purchase land in their homeland, thus if the BLP is re-elected the face of a land you call home will drastically be sold out.
Its time for a change</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>3 to 4 demonstrates there is a high level of dictatoship brewing in Barbados. Bajans its time to look at your African brothers and sisters and the price they are paying for allowing these greedy governments  to stay in power for extended periods.</p>
<p>Go out and vote and make that change. If this is not done you will surely not be allowed to call Barbados home. The working class cannot even purchase land in their homeland, thus if the BLP is re-elected the face of a land you call home will drastically be sold out.<br />
Its time for a change</p>
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		<title>By: bajanyankee</title>
		<link>http://bajan.wordpress.com/2008/01/10/to-you-the-dumb-set-the-lost-setdlp/#comment-19005</link>
		<dc:creator>bajanyankee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 03:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would we rust Owen Arthur when this is the same man that contributed to the downfall of the Jamaican economy. Speak to yourJamaican economist and get some background information on this opportunist.

Its time for CHANGE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would we rust Owen Arthur when this is the same man that contributed to the downfall of the Jamaican economy. Speak to yourJamaican economist and get some background information on this opportunist.</p>
<p>Its time for CHANGE</p>
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		<title>By: Georgie Porgie</title>
		<link>http://bajan.wordpress.com/2008/01/10/to-you-the-dumb-set-the-lost-setdlp/#comment-18993</link>
		<dc:creator>Georgie Porgie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 01:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is anyone listening to the shit that the QC Ralph THorne is talking in the FARM tonight?

He is singing for his supper. He is singing for more legal fees in those  Commisions of Inquiry?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is anyone listening to the shit that the QC Ralph THorne is talking in the FARM tonight?</p>
<p>He is singing for his supper. He is singing for more legal fees in those  Commisions of Inquiry?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://bajan.wordpress.com/2008/01/10/to-you-the-dumb-set-the-lost-setdlp/#comment-18933</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 21:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am of the belief that polls are worth much and at the same time little. Polls do not vote, people do. It will be interesting to see the actual result nevertheless. I thought Peter&#039;s explanation of what he did was sensible. One just never knows. 
Anyone else found it passing strange that the Chapo/Boxill poll was supposed to be a UWI effort and now sudden so it was commisioned by the BLP to carry out its poll?
Does this mean that another poll is coming out done on the behalf of the UWI? Or were we deceived in the first place when they insisted that they were not being funded by the BLP? Or I missed something?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am of the belief that polls are worth much and at the same time little. Polls do not vote, people do. It will be interesting to see the actual result nevertheless. I thought Peter&#8217;s explanation of what he did was sensible. One just never knows.<br />
Anyone else found it passing strange that the Chapo/Boxill poll was supposed to be a UWI effort and now sudden so it was commisioned by the BLP to carry out its poll?<br />
Does this mean that another poll is coming out done on the behalf of the UWI? Or were we deceived in the first place when they insisted that they were not being funded by the BLP? Or I missed something?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 21:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never knew that Owen was such a thief. All along I thought he was a real honest fellow from poor working class parents. There is no way he could ever get my vote. At least not again. I will be telling all my family to vote DLP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never knew that Owen was such a thief. All along I thought he was a real honest fellow from poor working class parents. There is no way he could ever get my vote. At least not again. I will be telling all my family to vote DLP</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 20:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frankology The DLP doesn&#039;t need to run on anything other than HONESTY, INTEGRITY, RESPONSIBLE STEWARDSHIP AND RESPECT FOR THE CITIZENS OF BARBADOS.

Ray</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankology The DLP doesn&#8217;t need to run on anything other than HONESTY, INTEGRITY, RESPONSIBLE STEWARDSHIP AND RESPECT FOR THE CITIZENS OF BARBADOS.</p>
<p>Ray</p>
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		<title>By: Wishing in Vain</title>
		<link>http://bajan.wordpress.com/2008/01/10/to-you-the-dumb-set-the-lost-setdlp/#comment-18888</link>
		<dc:creator>Wishing in Vain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post has no merit and needs no comment obviously this person is a disturbed and sick person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post has no merit and needs no comment obviously this person is a disturbed and sick person.</p>
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		<title>By: frankology</title>
		<link>http://bajan.wordpress.com/2008/01/10/to-you-the-dumb-set-the-lost-setdlp/#comment-18872</link>
		<dc:creator>frankology</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read this lead story but I prefer not to comment since I am being labeled a BLP operative.  But I must say openly, BU, you are fair and you try not to be partisan, even if you have strong views about a particular party.  That is what you call Democracy.  I can not say that about BFP, two things comes to mind.  Openly stating that they will be voting a particular line and secondly, deliberately refusing to accept my posting.  This is a strange line that will manifest itself by people of the ilk of Hartley Henry, Reudon Eversley and Peter Wickham..   

I was just reading an abstract in today&#039;s  St. Kitts and Nevis &quot;Democrat&quot; where it is said that Mr. Henry and Mr. Wickham will be using combine talent for the Labour Party http://www.pamdemocrat.org/newspaper/Details

We all speak about polls, but to me, a poll is just a view on the &#039;ground swell&#039; of popular opinion within a select group of random people.  Yes, it may turn out right, but what makes it look strong is the collusion of the pollster and the payer.  Some polls are solicited by people, but might not be accepted, due to the payer realising the polls reflect negative on his objective.  

Another scenario is a poll can be set up in a way that creates an &#039;un-polled swing&#039; based on influenced by &#039;spin doctors&#039;.  Regardless of a poll, it is the voters who will make the final decision to remove or continue with a party.  The greatest pollster of our time, is the late &#039;Carl Stone&quot;.  He removed partisanship from his polls.  Dr Belle, Peter Wickham and others must deal with polls as a democratically assigned undertaking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read this lead story but I prefer not to comment since I am being labeled a BLP operative.  But I must say openly, BU, you are fair and you try not to be partisan, even if you have strong views about a particular party.  That is what you call Democracy.  I can not say that about BFP, two things comes to mind.  Openly stating that they will be voting a particular line and secondly, deliberately refusing to accept my posting.  This is a strange line that will manifest itself by people of the ilk of Hartley Henry, Reudon Eversley and Peter Wickham..   </p>
<p>I was just reading an abstract in today&#8217;s  St. Kitts and Nevis &#8220;Democrat&#8221; where it is said that Mr. Henry and Mr. Wickham will be using combine talent for the Labour Party <a href="http://www.pamdemocrat.org/newspaper/Details" rel="nofollow">http://www.pamdemocrat.org/newspaper/Details</a></p>
<p>We all speak about polls, but to me, a poll is just a view on the &#8216;ground swell&#8217; of popular opinion within a select group of random people.  Yes, it may turn out right, but what makes it look strong is the collusion of the pollster and the payer.  Some polls are solicited by people, but might not be accepted, due to the payer realising the polls reflect negative on his objective.  </p>
<p>Another scenario is a poll can be set up in a way that creates an &#8216;un-polled swing&#8217; based on influenced by &#8217;spin doctors&#8217;.  Regardless of a poll, it is the voters who will make the final decision to remove or continue with a party.  The greatest pollster of our time, is the late &#8216;Carl Stone&#8221;.  He removed partisanship from his polls.  Dr Belle, Peter Wickham and others must deal with polls as a democratically assigned undertaking.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian Hinds</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian Hinds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David where is the substance in that article? 

Yes Thompson called Reggie Farley name, he said he received and cash a check for 40,000 just before election 2003.  Each constituency must have about 8,000 persons to a representative per the law. Can we say Reggie&#039;s seat was bought? 

Where is the counter to this exposition in that article?

Did Owen Arthur received a cheque for 75,000 separate and distinct from the Barbados labour party, from the same source?  

Is this a lie? is this illegal? in the least is it not corrupting?

One of my pet statements.  Men will occasionally stumble, and fall upon the truth, will get up brush themselves off and continue on as if nothing has occurred. 

This speaks to this writer, very clearly. Somebody not known to him or her has their number and this is usually the circumstance of people who refuse to view life events outside of their beliefs. For such persons, facts and the ideas that gave birth to them are only relevant if they can be massage thru their beliefs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David where is the substance in that article? </p>
<p>Yes Thompson called Reggie Farley name, he said he received and cash a check for 40,000 just before election 2003.  Each constituency must have about 8,000 persons to a representative per the law. Can we say Reggie&#8217;s seat was bought? </p>
<p>Where is the counter to this exposition in that article?</p>
<p>Did Owen Arthur received a cheque for 75,000 separate and distinct from the Barbados labour party, from the same source?  </p>
<p>Is this a lie? is this illegal? in the least is it not corrupting?</p>
<p>One of my pet statements.  Men will occasionally stumble, and fall upon the truth, will get up brush themselves off and continue on as if nothing has occurred. </p>
<p>This speaks to this writer, very clearly. Somebody not known to him or her has their number and this is usually the circumstance of people who refuse to view life events outside of their beliefs. For such persons, facts and the ideas that gave birth to them are only relevant if they can be massage thru their beliefs.</p>
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