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It is 9.30PM and Rihanna is being celebrated in song by the best musical talent which Barbados has to offer in Independence Square, Bridgetown, Barbados. The tribute is occasioned by Rihanna’s capturing a Grammy Award and her international success over the last 3 years. Prime Minister David Thompson has wasted no time in setting things in motion to recognize his fellow Combermerian and world famous Superstar. Rihanna entered the Square in style aboard a boat commanded by the one arm cancer Olympian Andrew Burke. Many Barbadians were anticipating that Jay Z, who signed her to his international label Def Jam would have accompanied her to Barbados, it turned out to be Chris Brown the American Pop Star. The Internet has been congested with the buzz in recent times about a romantic association between the two. The fact that he has accompanied her on this special occasion maybe enough to confirm the deal. Rihanna was flabbergasted when in a proclamation read by Minister of Culture Mr. Steve Blackett she was elevated to Youth & Culture Ambassador for Barbados. She was also given a piece of land in the exclusive and ritzy part of the island, a place called Apes Hill. Finally the crowd went wild when Chris Brown was asked to visit the stage to cut the cake with Rihanna. We are back to the TV to enjoy the rest of the celebration!
136 responses so far ↓
Bajan // February 21, 2008 at 10:00 pm
You go girl. I just want to cry.
Bush tea // February 21, 2008 at 11:03 pm
David, how could she be more of a princess? what more would a twenty- year-old have to do or be…
…you must have a bit more faith in Bush tea (LOL)
…the other combermarian on stage will come good too…. he just needs a chance to settle and get over the novelty of the limelight – like Robyn.
Rihanna is really special though…. you check how she defused the cake cutting thing with Chris Brown?!? professional, cool and collected.
Come to think of it, she is a girl of all ‘Cs’
….cute, coy, cool, combermarian, cadet
One bit of advice to her though – from the Bush tea-
What LandRover Freelander what?!?
Get rid of that junk as soon as you can sweetheart -or you will end up as poor as a Bush tea….ask Debbie for a benz…
David // February 21, 2008 at 11:12 pm
Indeed bush tea. We were a little disturb at the ‘raw’ MC style which Kevin Hinds adopted tonight. It was totally out of sync with the occasion.
Undertaker // February 21, 2008 at 11:27 pm
Times like these (professional ones) you need an MC the likes of Wayne “Cool” Simmons. Him and Sophia Cambridge, or the lady that hosts the “chat room” would of been so wonderful an eligent pair.
Did Kevin thing that he way in the Gym doing a MADD Show? There is a time for everything.
Undertaker // February 21, 2008 at 11:32 pm
Rihanna,
What can I say, pure elegance on stage through out, she has been brought up well and regardless of what people think she has to have good people around her, to keep her grounded. She deserved everything she got and more. Hope she enjoys her vacation.
Bush Tea,
I agree, Get rid of the LandRover Freelander, ask for a Benz instead. or ask Debbie for a benz
Technician // February 21, 2008 at 11:51 pm
For me, the only thing that spoiled the night was that jackass Kevin Hinds.
Where was Wayne Cool?
Kevin Hinds has no damn class whatsoever.With all the celebrity gossip going around, he just had to get in his bit by constantly asking ignorant questions.
If I had any doubts that Rihanna knows how to handle herself, they were dismissed tonight by the way she handled this clown.
One would have thought it was a tent recording.
Technician // February 21, 2008 at 11:52 pm
Wow .
Leviticus // February 22, 2008 at 12:50 am
The show was great and a fitting tribute to a young Barbadian who is going places. and she remembers Barbados as Prime Minister Thompson noted. I compliment the government for honouring her. She deserves it and is a great ambassador for our country already!
Hats off to the PM and the Minister of Culture!
samizdat // February 22, 2008 at 1:00 am
I only saw it on TV, but thought everything about the show was superb. Many congrats to all concerned: the Govt, the producers, the technical crew, the performers (not forgetting the absolutely kickin’ band and back-up singers).
So many cool touches (the bridge being raised, Rihanna arriving on brave Burke’s boat, the PM’s nice (and short!) speech of welcome, the shower of coloured birthday confetti as Arturo serenaded her…). Rihanna looked simply beautiful, and so happy…
Best performance? For me it was the exhilarating duet between Turo and Livvie Franc. Clearly a world-class act (though the Lil Rick-loving crowd seemed underwhelmed by it). The gospel tribute was slamming too, and Shontelle wasn’t bad. And Kid Site was wicked! Loved how he slammed that “traitor” Gabby…!
Worst? Well, I’d have to say the only really cringe-making performance was Ayanna John’s attempt at ‘Umbrella’. I was kind of hoping the camera would cut to the VIP stand so we could get Rihanna’s face as her song was slaughtered….
As for KB…I couldn’t disagree more with the posters above. Lighten up, people. He was terrific! Sure, he was a bit crude and tasteless at times, but never nasty and never over-the-line. He seemed just right for the occasion. After all, this wasn’t a real Bajan FAMILY event, a celebration, like a wedding or birthday party, and KB was like the naughty uncle joshing the bride and guests.
Wayne Simmons? Sophia Cambridge?Boring. I’m tired of them and their stuffy presentation style (though I agree that pretty, stylish and sexy Belle Holder would have been a much better choice of co-host than gravel-voiced “mek some noise people” Hurricane)…
Still, all in all a fantastic event, one to remember. Happy birthday Rihanna!
Jerome Hinds // February 22, 2008 at 1:03 am
Wow ! Great tribute and a crowd of 75,000 people crammed in and around Independence Square.
Exhilirating work by PM Thompson and his Cabinet.
samizdat // February 22, 2008 at 1:18 am
Correction: I wrote “wasn’t a real Bajan family event” above, when of course I meant to say that it was….:)
Bimbro // February 22, 2008 at 4:40 am
I said the plaudits would follow!! Sorry as hell I was n’t there!!
Mind you; she was ‘given a piece of land?’ – by whom!! The Bim government?!!!
Well, that does n’t sound right!! Can I have a piece, too!!!!
Otherwise, I love our Rihanna girl!!!!
Just hope her next album will equal GGGB!! U should c the no. of dates this girl will be performing during the next 3 months!!!!
God b with u babe!! We love u and wish u all the best!!!!
Please give us another brilliant, new album!!
Pretty Eyes // February 22, 2008 at 7:46 am
Hi Rihanna. Well done. Keep you piece of the “rock”. It will in increase in value. An excellent choice of where to place your dream house. May God continue to bless as you keep putting Barbados on the global map.
boredickey // February 22, 2008 at 8:10 am
I think KB was out of line during this event with the Chris Brown thing, putting Rihanna in a very embarrasing position. Calling out Chris like that on numerous occasions and then to suggest “I don’t want to see nah tongue” when you cutting dah cake was really outrageous.
Maybe the corn-rows were too tight KB.
Hurricane should have spoken to you on thew first occasion of your leud outburst. GOD BLESS RIHANNA!
power FM // February 22, 2008 at 8:29 am
We were a little disturb at the ‘raw’ MC style which Kevin Hinds adopted tonight. It was totally out of sync with the occasion.
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I am in total agreement here. Kevin Hinds was a disgrace. Hurricane and Hinds should stick to dub fetes. No sense of occasion, protocol, timing or decency. PM Thompson had to take the mike from Hinds in order to bring sanity to the proceedings.
First time seeing Rihanna close up. She’s beautiful. But I did not like the hair do. Next time please get Doug Hoyte, PG, or someone with more maturity and class to emcee. Tony Cave should give Kevin Hinds lessons in stage manners.
Tell me Why // February 22, 2008 at 10:07 am
The occasion was fantastic to honour our Bajan Queen, this lady was totally professional, she was in control and she is going to make. I thought I saw “Bajangirl” in the front row shouting out Rihanna. Anyway Mr. PM. your decision to give her a tangible gift of land was commendable. Remember, it will show her that regardless of jer professional status, she must always remember home. Also the awarding her with Youth Ambassador was a fitting tribute for the youth.
Now to the biggest disappointment for the night. Kelvin Hinds was an insult to the our Prime Minister, Rihanna, her gust “CHris Brown, the International Press who covered the occasion, BET, the many sponsors for the night, the invited guests and most of all ‘we bajans’. Kelvin, you should come back and apologise to Barbadians for under-rating and almost destroying an occasion that should have been a fitting tribute to our ‘Guest of Honour’, Rihanna. Although the PM took the mike from him, realising that it was not professional in the way he keep shouting out Chris and Rihanna constantly. Kelvin also spoke about ‘tongue’ with the cutting of the cake. Rihanna, you handle that situation with grace. By the way, is this the same Kelvin Hinds that is on the board of CBC? I say no more.
OMC // February 22, 2008 at 10:08 am
Hi Rhianna–This is wishing you all continued success in your career. I must add now that you are a high-profile-celebrity there are a lot of negative things you have to ignore in the press, people will always criticize regardless of what you do..being a Barbadian myself, living abroad, I do understand how you feel, because I have also experienced the snobs and resentments of the Barbadian people whenenever I visit Barbados. In my opinion they are their worst enemies…keep the faith. OMC
ps–I applaud the Prime Minister David Thompson, for such professional response.
Tell me Why // February 22, 2008 at 10:09 am
Now to the biggest disappointment for the night. Kelvin Hinds was an insult to the our Prime Minister, Rihanna, her guest “Chris Brown,
Wishing in Vain // February 22, 2008 at 10:33 am
The evening was an outstanding success and made so by the sterling effort of the organisers, and the person of the moment Rianna.
Let us not forget that heart warming speech delivered by Mr David Thompson it was sincere and meaningful.
The low point of the evening was the inept effort of Kevin Hinds ( a person that I have always loved to see perform) but last evening he was well below par and bordered on arrogance.
All in all it was a most enjoyable and uplifting evening, my congrats again to the organisers, to Rianna, to Mr David Thompson our PM and to everyone who attended and behaved so well throughout the event, with not a single report of an incident to the police is really an outstanding result.
Jerome Hinds the Yardfowl // February 22, 2008 at 10:35 am
Jerome Hinds // February 22, 2008 at 1:03 am
Wow ! Great tribute and a crowd of 75,000 people crammed in and around Independence Square.
Exhilirating work by PM Thompson and his Cabinet.
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Jerome Hinds the political yardfowl and idiot.
Where is the report that there were 75,000 people there?
You are a real jacka*ss.
Wishing in Vain // February 22, 2008 at 10:45 am
It was a massive crowd, not sure 75,000 but it was massive indeed.
TNS // February 22, 2008 at 10:51 am
If i was a past or present student of Combermere, Kelvin Hinds would have made me regret ever going there. It is such a sad shame that an educated person can behave like a total jack ___, especially when he knows the international press were there. What business is it of his if Rihanna and Chriss Browne together. You can read you know that the tabloids on pun d girl fuh that already, did you have to highlight it. Lil Rick you made me sick. NO BEHAVIOUR. I honestly hope that when CBC repeats the concert they cut out the MC and Lil Rick and I think the show would run smoothly. Next time PM if you need an MC look at people like Casandra Samuels, Wayne Simmons, Sophia Cambridge, Carol Roberts, Bell from Good Morning Barbados, Jewel Forde or even Admiral (although I am not a fan). They would have done you proud and those viewing overseas would wonder where we got such talented, well speaking people from. Not those who can’t command the English Language. These people would probably need a vodoo witch doctor to translate the MC’s words.
Pricilla // February 22, 2008 at 11:03 am
Congrats to Rihanna, keep it up.
Kevin Hinds a big, big disappointment and embarassment. Time and place for everything take that into consideration.
Pricilla // February 22, 2008 at 11:07 am
And lil rick you are always gripping about everything. Get a Life.
Precious // February 22, 2008 at 11:44 am
Excellent show and fitting tribute to our Caribbean singing sensation Rihanna; such grace and poise in the face of the racous MC (he should leave that style of emceeing for Bacchanal tent).
Congratulations to you and the Government of Barbados for honouring your achievements .
Happy 20th birthday……. May God continue to order your steps as you excel in international entertainment
permres // February 22, 2008 at 12:04 pm
I am very pleased for Rihanna and Barbados, and her appointment as Ambassador for Youth is appropriate, if we are to accept the culture of this day and age! All of her gifts from private companies are very well-deserved.
However, I must ask a question about the gift of “a piece of the rock”. Bimbro alludes to it above. Was this gift also privately donated? If so, the owner of the land should have been acknowledged by PM David Thompson, or at least he could have said that it had been given by a donator who prefers to remain anonymous. If the land was owned by the Government, it was not David Thompson’s to give, and as Bimbro says, why can we not all have a bit?
There may of course be many Bajans who would endorse such a gift from the public purse, but I wonder what would be the result if a referendum were taken!? I do not think many would object to the expenses of the evening being paid for by the Government, but “a piece of the rock”?!
PETALS // February 22, 2008 at 1:27 pm
I really thought that the night was disturbing, to say the least. The MCs where both out of order. Kevin Hinds for his behavior throughtout the entire night and Hurrican for not, by the knowledge of the public, stopping him or even telling him to hault for acting like a ignorant man. Honestly, Barbadians were there to support and congratulate Rihanna, not to be harrassed and questioned about her personal life. Her relation with Chris Brown, be it friendship or more is really none of his or anyone’s business. I found that that was OUT OF ORDER!. He owes Rihanna an apology and the the public for such disgrace. CONGRAT to Rihanna and many more years of success.
Tony Hall // February 22, 2008 at 1:33 pm
Permres,
COW Williams is going to give her the land from one of his lots in Apes Hill.
samizdat // February 22, 2008 at 1:42 pm
Well, I see I’m a lone voice here supporting KB (see my post above).
What a stuffy, uptight, conservative lot you Bajans are. I guess it’s the British legacy…:)
Tell me Why // February 22, 2008 at 1:51 pm
Well, I see I’m a lone voice here supporting KB (see my post above).
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Sometime we have to separate friends from foe, in this case Kelvin seems to be hell bent to destroy last night’s proceeding. If you all were part of the party’s musical promotion for the election, you could have gotten away with such behaviour, last night was actual protocol and you should have behaved accordingly. Kelvin, if you was man to behave like that last night, you should be man to come publicly and apologise to the Hon. Prime Minister and the lady of the night, Rihanna. Where was Belle of Morning Barbados fame.
Kadri // February 22, 2008 at 2:30 pm
before wunna question the land issue, why no one asked the same question when obadele received land? hmmm
when lara received what he received, no one kept noise, time to stop hating on de girl.
jamaica got dem few kings of reggae, trini got dem prince of cricket, and we got we princess of pop, let her get wa she deserve, she was never de first and she wont be de last.
and to de people like pat who suh de girl int doing nuttin bout hay fuh nabody, i hope u watch de concert on tv and hear bout de BELIEVE children fund.
like i said before and i will say it again, only people who make their contributions known to the public, are seeking fame and fortune from publicity, and i call them hypocritical frauds.
Adrian Hinds // February 22, 2008 at 3:02 pm
Sorry tuh rain pun wunnuh parade, but i am sure wunnuh got wunnuh umbrella- ella ella :D
A poster on the Breadfruitlime.freeforums.org said the following and i concur.
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I know who for one will not be attending the Rihanna glorification concert on Independence Sq. tonight – MOI. And, I probably will not be watching on TV either. If nothing else, it is my way of protesting the mis-ordered priorities in this little country of ours. Call me old fashioned but I grew up in an era when education, the quest for learning, knowledge and the advancement of society and civilization were still worthy goals; now it seems transient pop culture and its association with the quick buck are all that matter. How else can we explain the squandermania to unfold in Independence Sq. tonight to celebrate the luck of one little girl but the almost total disregard for the hard work and scholarship of at least one other whose efforts may one day save the planet?
I doubt you can find ten Bajans in Independence Sq. tonight who know that Dr. Leonard Nurse is Barbados’ first Nobel Laureate sharing the prize last year along with former US Vice President Al Gore for his work on Global Warming. Now, let me first say that personally I do not subscribe to all the hysteria Global Warming has become, but a lot of other people in the world do and it is being touted as the most important issue of our times. However, the government of Barbados (both old and the new governments) while giving some lip service to the concerns of Global Warming themselves chooses to largely ignore Dr. Nurse and his worldwide recognized achievement while at the same time apparently it cannot get enough of the intoxication of pop stars “bigging up” one another.
How many people in Independence Sq. tonight can even remember Rihanna’s first hit song even though that was only about two years ago? We have already disposed of that like a piece of toilet tissue. This is not to say that Rihanna’s achievement is not important nor that music is not valuable, but to emphasize that there are more important and lasting things in our culture, country and world to which we need to pay more attention. We need more Dr. Nurses and less Rihannas if we are truly serious about becoming a developed (First World) country.
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Scientist // February 22, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Very good point Adrian. The world has gone topsy turvy.
Why go to school and learn well as Sparrow sang? You dont get much for that these days.
Tricia // February 22, 2008 at 3:24 pm
kevin hinds was, intolerable, detestable, unbearbale, despicable and repugnant.
Anonymous // February 22, 2008 at 3:42 pm
Bush Tea
What LandRover Freelander what?!?
Get rid of that junk as soon as you can sweetheart -or you will end up as poor as a Bush tea….ask Debbie for a benz…
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$75 gets me 600kms in my Freelander, buddy – gets you about 150 in a Benz. Reliable as hell, too, and great for the crap roads we have around here. No creepy-crawly over every little bump in the road like in a Benz. Do some homework.
Meanwhile, Rihanna is great, we all love her and wish her even greater things in the future.
JSK // February 22, 2008 at 3:46 pm
Kevin Hinds made me ashamed to be a bajan. It was a pity that he spoilt what could have been an almost perfect night. He ain’t got dog class. Regardless to if he and David Thompson are best buddies, that gives him no right at all to address the PM in the way that he did. He owes all of Barbados a public apology.
As for Rhi Rhi she is very deserving of everything she got. She is a class act.
Could not help feeling sorry for Kevin’s daughter she also seemed very ashamed at her father’s stupid and low class behaviour.
Sam // February 22, 2008 at 3:48 pm
True that Tricia, he happens to lost his education when he hits the stage. But if it is that he wanted to bring Chris brown on stage bring him as a guess, make him feel like he found himself a second home.
and for hurricane she should have stand out as a woman for the women and not be backin he up. if it was up to me i would not let none of the two of them do nuttin of such again.
Ri Ri continue to do you thing and chris brown keep lookin sexy and doin wa you do
Tricia // February 22, 2008 at 3:53 pm
Yeah Sam, Ri Ri will always make us proud… cause she looks and acts like a star…I know she must of felt a way last night about HIS(kb kline) questions but she held her head up and stood her ground. I know she will remember all of us now in Barbados after the wonderful tribute she received last night and i know from now on she will BIG UP BARBADOS EVERYTIME!!!!!
Tessy // February 22, 2008 at 4:34 pm
KB Kleen does not represent what is good in this country with that outlandish, stupid behaviour acting like a major jerk.
That Jimmy Haynes acted like he was high on something… and where has he been for all this time and never help Barbados develop a music industry with all that he knew and was connected too
sungoddess // February 22, 2008 at 8:17 pm
Well I never watch these things, or go to these sort of things… for me, new Mac Os Operating systems or sexy new Macs or Apple hardware or gadgetry are the only thing that will get me to queue in adoration and such. The last time I did it, I got roaring applause when I walked through the door because I was the third Mac devotee through the door.
So I can only comment from second and third hand reports of last nights events.
Congrats Rhianna, a Combermerian and we’re proud of that. Pity about KB, a Combermerian and not so sure we’re proud of that. Maybe he just wanted to keep a sense of Barbadian ‘realness’ to the evening… a sense of the raw commentary and behaviour one gets on the byways and highways. Even so, clearly he missed a note and struck a raw nerve instead.
Fortunately, Barbadian memories (like memories of many around the world) tend to be short when it comes to certain escapades. Even the notorious recover given enough time.
I also wanted to commend the poster above for sharing the bulletin board post about Dr. Leonard Nurse’s achievement.
I think that’s the sort of achievement that surely deserves a ticker parade… lauding, celebrating and definitely a spot in Apes Hill too, don’t you?
NattyBaj // February 22, 2008 at 9:25 pm
I am truly proud to be a Bajan and proud of Ms Rihanna and all in one breath I won’t be recommending Kevin Hinds as a future MC. Just plain ole tardiness is what I C. The night’s event could have been even less stressful for the guest of honor if she had not had to also endure her signature song being slaughtered and for all the world to C.
Still – I think the people of Barbados remain forever proud of you Rihanna!
Justice Seeker // February 22, 2008 at 9:57 pm
At last KB has apologised! It should never have come to this; commonsense should not be sacrificed on the altar of mediocrity and foolishness.
I likewise agree that Barbados and ……. YES…… COMBERMERE …… has done Dr. Nurse wrong. Are readers aware that the 4 or 5 Nurse brothers ALL went to Combermere as well?
Pat // February 22, 2008 at 10:07 pm
Kadri:
I know of the fund and plan to contribute to it. It is for the Worldwide treatment of children with HIV/AIDS. It is a new charity. News of it was carried in Canada the week of the Grammys. Sorry, we do not get Bajan TV up North.
By the way Kadri, the Grammys have some 60 categories, honouring muscis of all genres and all corners of the world. There is even a category for polka. The reason this is not well known is that 75% of the awards are handed out before the broadcast and not carried live. Search the grammy site. I usually do to see who wins for Africa and of course – polka. For 5 years in a row, a transplanted European who lived in Canada won this category. The African this year was a lady called Njini or something like that. There was an African who used to open for Peter Grabriel who was nominated in the 80’s (when you were a baby). I attended one of their concerts, dont remember if he won. Think his name was Ndour something. By the way, how is your music career coming along?
Please remember that because a person does not make it big in NA does not mean they are failures – Joseph Niles, the Draytons, Mighty Charmer, Trade Winds, Allison Hinds. Sometimes it is better to be a big fish in a small pond than vice versa – less sharks!
Ali // February 22, 2008 at 10:30 pm
Words cannot express the disappointment that I am feeling right now about the way in which Kelvin Hinds conducted himself and represented the competence of our bajan people.
I also blame the organizers of the concert for their poor selection of persons to conduct this event. This event could have been one that showed our bajan ingredients along with a high level of professionalism.
You don’t have to be raw and classless to be a bajan!
I stood in shock at what I was hearing and seeing in independence square. Many people did too….We could not believe that that was the best we could offer Rihanna.
The tone was raw, unprofessional, and inappropriate….
Rihanna’s expression should all the signs of shock and embarrassment….Why Kelvin? Can’t you assess a situation and conform to appropriate behaviour? You made bajans look like unintelligent, backward people at an international level. You need to apologize to every single one of us.
Just pray that most of the international viewers have short memories like us bajans.
OMG // February 22, 2008 at 10:52 pm
I luv Chris Brown bad bad and when I saw he had accompanied Rhianna I felt so proud and pleased.
But I was ashamed of the poor grammar and crude talk from the MC’s, Rhianna was cringing in shame.
There is a time and a place for everything.
Many of the MC’s comments were in poor taste and Rhianna dont need hal the things she was given.
But I think R and C are a beautiful couple (fingers crossed).
Bush tea // February 22, 2008 at 11:02 pm
Peoples….
Time to ease up on KB. He deserve some licks but we don’t have to kill him… he apologized.
In the first place I like to place blame where it REALLY belongs….. in this case it is with WHOEVER organized that show.
I have known KB for years… he has ALWAYS been KB…. so what did we think? he would suddenly become Maurice Norville?
If you hire a mongoose and place him among the chickens – you think he will suddenly become a vegetarian?
Second thing…. I refuse to blame Lil Rick either..for the same reason. He had NO right to be invited there. Lil Rick is Lil Rick is Lil Rick.
Third thing…. I blame all we Bajans who just came out in full support of a Senator with his hair in corn rows operating in the Senate. Don’t you think that this may have led Kevin to feel that ‘anything goes bout here’? Who exactly is deciding WHICH standards to lower?
…and finally, Mr Anonymous with the Freelander – you think I didn’t have one of them too? It was worse than the BMWs the Taxi men complaining ’bout… Now on the other hand…the merky….uhhhhhh
…besides you think Rihanna care bout a few miles per gallon? But I bet she won’t like breaking down all bout the place….
Warrior // February 22, 2008 at 11:07 pm
I have always heard if you start on the wrong foot you WILL end up lame.
The whole thing went down hill when Rhianna stepped off the plane and approached and greeted the Prime Minister in the manner that she did. It was an immediate breach of protocol and etiquette to be hanging on the PM’s shoulder and being flippant to his wife, when they were standing in an official capacity.
If Ms ri-ri was going to meet the queen of England, she would have been pulled aside and versed in protocol, there is no way on God’s green earth she would have greeted the queen with a hug and hanging on her shoulder.
I am not surprised that KB was struck with foot in mouth and everywhere else disease. He is by all observation, base, crass and oafish. We as a people have tolerated and even encouraged this type of behavious from these people for how many years, you can’t ask them to come back now, we are only complaining because we were embarassed as a nation on an international level, if before the world felt that we just fell off the mango and banana boat, Kevin Hinds convinced them that indeed we did.
Since no body wants to bell the cat them we have to “tek what we get,
David // February 22, 2008 at 11:31 pm
KB has been given lashes which he deserves by John Public. Even in the face of the public outcry KB gave a conditional apology by pointing his argument to apologizing at calling the PM David. He even called him the Right Excellency!
No Kevin the public is upset at a whole lot more! Wasn’t there someone on the ground last night who could have pulled the plug on KB?
Leviticus // February 23, 2008 at 12:46 am
Whats the jealous fuss about the land all about?
batt // February 23, 2008 at 1:03 am
I hope KB blames it all on the strong drinks.
samizdat // February 23, 2008 at 1:22 am
Just listen to yourselves! You people are really something else…
Not one of you has a single thing to say about any of the really fine performances we saw (Arturo, Livvy, Shontelle, Kid Site, the gospel ensemble, et al).
All you can do is drone on and on about KB like a lot of old Moaning Mavises.
How lame. How insecure in your own identities you are.
You know what I think really vexes you? It’s that the foreign media were present. You’re all so anxious about what non-Bajans think of us, mortified that (as the guy above put it) we “were embarrassed as a nation on an international level”.
Such rubbish! Listen to me. I’ve talked to many, many people from abroad about this today, and – I swear on my kids’ lives – to a man (and woman) they agree with me: that it’s this grotesque over-reaction to KB that makes Barbados look ridiculous, not KB’s performance.
Let me spell it out for you once again:
This was like a massive family party; it wasn’t the State Opening of Parliament, for God’s sake!
The triumphant homecoming of a young Bajan pop star was being feted by her own people; it wasn’t the first Official Visit by President Obama!
And as for embarrassing Chris Brown….
People, grow up! Do you know who this young guy is? Have you listened to any of the lyrics of his songs?
Here’s a sample from Run It!, his first smash hit.
“One of them Brand new big boy toys
I do big boy things
I make big boy noise cuz…
I know what girls want…
I know what they like
They wanna stay up , and party all night
so bring a friend…”
Not exactly Irving Burgie, is it? Now don’t get me wrong, I like the youth and his music. He’s talented and focused. But talk of KB embarrassing him is just fooish. He’s not Sir Clifford Husbands!
And one last thing before I finish in connection with KB and PM Thompson.
A confident, grown-up person doesn’t have to get their panties in a twist all the time over matters of protocol. The fact that Thompson didn’t seem phased by being called ‘David’ (any more than former UK PM Blair minded being callled ‘Tony’) in what was clearly meant to be a relaxed, warm and familial setting speaks very highly of his own sense of self-esteem and status. It also speaks volumes to me that so few of you can grasp this.
Honestly, it’s not KB who should be ashamed today, but people like you posters here along with all the other Bajans who, when presented with an entirely positive, good-humoured, heart-warming, well-executed and celebratory Bajan occasion, can only fret about what the rest of the world is thinking of us…
princess // February 23, 2008 at 1:29 am
Listen up!
KB did the PROUD! He took them down a peg or two off their high horses Maybe now they will stop acting like they are above everyone else. Since their own acted like a jackass in public and flaunted where he went to school. how could we forget ! GO CAWMERE!
Good luck Rhianna …all de best girl
princess // February 23, 2008 at 1:34 am
KB did CAWMERE PROUD! He took them down a peg or two off their high horses . Maybe now they will stop acting like they are above everyone else. Since their own acted like a jackass in public and flaunted where he went to school. how could we forget ! GO CAWMERE!
Good luck Rhianna …all de best girl
island spice // February 23, 2008 at 4:20 am
Samizdat,
You could not have said it better! I live in New York and I have to say that myself and friends who live in the U.S. loved the show. KB was a bit over the top but it was it was all in good fun. With the exception of referring to the Prime Minister as David, I LOVED that he treated Rihanna and Chris Brown as REAL people. My friends were cracking up and saying ‘man he giving them real nuff pressure!’ It felt like such a warm welcome home – something genuine and not the contrived way of living that exists in the U.S. and surely for Rihanna in the cut-throat entertainment industry. Rihanna deftly handled the situation and from what I can see only Mediatakeout covered it with a few pics. It was really no big deal in the States but it appears there is a tempest in a teapot stirring in Barbados. Stop worrying about the international press they are so over this story and onto the next one. However, be confident in yourselves and the awesome culture we come from. According to reports the tribute was conceived and organized in 4 days so kudos to everyone. You only had to listen to Rihanna’s overwhelmed but grateful voice to tell she appreciated this outpouring from her own people. And that my friends makes this event a success.
me // February 23, 2008 at 7:04 am
Cornrosw in Parliament, Kevin Hinds as compere, Hi David, my Buddy,
Our standards are falling!
David // February 23, 2008 at 8:39 am
Could it be that as Barbadians we have our own idea about the standards which we want to uphold? Do we care whether the Americans found something wrong with it or not? It seems that a majority of Barbadians have a problem with the tent like antics of Kevin Hinds. The phrasing of his apology shows that he was ‘forced’ to apologize by somebody of influence.
Tell me Why // February 23, 2008 at 9:50 am
People, grow up! Do you know who this young guy is? Have you listened to any of the lyrics of his songs?
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You’re missing the point. Yes , we might like Kelvin during the Crop Over period for his immense wit, we might like Kelvin as an entertainer, we might like Kelvin as an intelligent promoter and the like, but we cannot like Kelvin for making a total donkey of himself. Sorry ‘animal lovers’.
His behaviour and lack of protocol cannot be accepted by wise thinking Barbadians, even if we forget the International media we must deal with the real occasion. These are the facts; the concert was an acknowledgment for Rihanna. It was held under the auspices of The Prime Minister and the Government of Barbados and was part sponsored by the Private Sector and attended by Barbadians and Guests. The age grouping was from babes in arms to retirees. The concert was on national TV with all types of viewers.
You can make a mistake by calling the Prime Minister by his ‘first name’, but this was not uttered once, but many times. Don’t tell me as a MC he don’t know about ‘protocol’. Secondly, Rihanna was the guest of honour and was accompanied by her guest Chris Brown. Kelvin constantly accosted her about her relationship with Chris and you the reversal to accost Chris about Rihanna. That was not the place for that, period. Where were the damage control staff. Where were the organisers of the show. I must say the blind was leading the blind, no wonder Hurricane was unable to hint to Kelvin of his poor performance.
Samizdat, his condemnation came from all segment of the community, especially the youth who realised that it was totally uncalled for and he was made to pay for his actions. Don’t get me wrong, I am not happy in bashing Kelvin, since he is one of the smarter entertainment intellects in our country, but I will be deceitful in putting a feather in his cap.
By the way, your apology was only directed to the Honourable David Thompson. What about Rihanna, Chris Brown, the sponsors, the invited guests and the thousands of attendees and viewers. Kelvin, you have so more apologising to do.
Anon // February 23, 2008 at 9:50 am
samazdat
Not one of you has a single thing to say about any of the really fine performances we saw (Arturo, Livvy, Shontelle, Kid Site, the gospel ensemble, et al).
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Yes they were excellent(except grumpy Lil Rick) but KB Kleen alias Kevin Hinds overshadowed them with his assness. He ruined a night that was set to be brilliant. From the fabulous Rihanna to the huge crowd to the cooperative weather we had a perfect setting. Then this fool arrived.
I could not believe what I was seeing and hearing from this ignorant boy. Make no mistake kevin Hinds shamed all of Barbados. I felt sorry for Rihanna, Chris Brown and especially the Prime Minister. Keven Hinds is the worst and he must be told so by everyone.
Khaidji // February 23, 2008 at 9:51 am
Those of us who viewed the Believe Concert from at home may have had a better vantage point them many of those in attendance. And thanks to Boyce Voice, we were getting photos from the time Rihanna landed. Sometimes, being at home has its advantages. I am generally pleased with most I’ve seen and overjoyed with Rihanna in an impromptu setting. People can be best judge when unrehearsed and for me, she scored top points even when the situations seem difficult.
It’s A Tribute To Her
I too was bemused
The kind of style KB used
Such taunting was a shame
And can only taint Rihanna’s name
This was my feeble mistake
Rihanna was classy and took the cake
I must give this young lady much more credit
Bajan star knows this business and can handle it
Ugly moments she turns into Kodak ones
This gal is in an industry where she belongs
Elation covered her face when the PM declared
This position meant more than she’d been tangibly awarded
One Grammy and a barrage of other trophies
Honor of Cultural Ambassador seemed more than these
Efforts were all out for this tribute to confer
Reception great but Rihanna’s class, It’s A Tribute To Her
Notice the message down the left spine of each poem.
See other poems about Rihanna Here All written by Khaidji
born and bred // February 23, 2008 at 10:14 am
I believe two out of 56 comments on this subject cry like a voice in the wilderness.
If a Combermerian became famous for being a Drug Lord would there be such fanfare as well?? God help us.
Rihanna is more wealthy than 95% of the population here. Does she NEED land at Apes Hill or a free vehicle.? If she wants it, she has more than enough money to purchase it.. Does she need to be “bribed” into having property in her homeland???
What about poor Stephen Grant living on the streets. How many comments did that garner. WHO??? WHO CARES RIGHT???
What does all of this say about us BARBADOS??
I’m not saying that Rihanna is a drug lord but the culture that she moves in is not exactly wholesome. While I don’t care for such affairs, I do keep myself informed. Rihanna announced to the entire world by virtue of her last album that she is “A Good Girl Gone Bad”.
Wow, Barbados — I guess that’s what we want to be known for.
Go to Chris Brown’s website. Look at the skull and bones tattoo on his hand.
What statement is he making?
Ever heard birds of a feather flock together?
Rhi fan // February 23, 2008 at 11:21 am
Born and Bred you are more weird and confused than KB Kleen. Are you him? Rhianna is the most famous Bajan internationally whether you like it or not. Ninety nine percent plus Bajans excluding you and the two voices are proud of her. As an obvious anti Rihanna person I hope you stay in the wilderness.
NattyBaj // February 23, 2008 at 11:55 am
I firmly believe there is a time and a place for everything and everyone. Clearly we need to show our future (children, youth, young adults) the what, where, when and how and not simply applaud the ridiculous. Fact is fact…stop polishing the brass and calling it gold. It will tarnish no matter what!
Radiance // February 23, 2008 at 1:45 pm
Sometimes people can take thing too far. In some ways Kevin Hinds’ behavior was inappropriate for the occasion. He took some things too far. The people complained. He realized that he offended people and he apologized to the nation. Yet we are still going on and on and on about what he said. To me, that’s taking it too far. What more do we want? His head on a platter? A pound of his flesh? Let us learn how to accept apologies with grace when they are offered.
David // February 23, 2008 at 2:20 pm
Here is Kevin Hind’s apology compliments of Boyce Voice blog
born and bred // February 23, 2008 at 4:47 pm
Is is it a question of how we treat famous Bajans or shouldn’t there be a question of how we treat the LEAST of Barbadians. If we don’t care about our kind who can’t help themselves. What does it say about us??
Bush tea // February 23, 2008 at 5:50 pm
Born and Bred
This thread is about how we define EXCELLENCE and establish high standards. It is about recognizing success and achievement.
If you don’t understand this then say so – but do not bring welfare into this equation. These are TWO DIFFERENT concepts.
Rihanna did not ask anyone for land or car. Barbados did not do her any favour by those gifts. Those gifts were designed to inspire other Barbadians. To lift our self esteem and to build our national self confidence.
People like Rihanna and Obba are worth MUCH MUCH more than we could ever give them.
If you and your welfare cases present yourself to the welfare department then I am sure that you will find that Barbados is more generous than most other countries including many of the wealthy developed ones (How many of these provide FREE education, free health care, National insurance, subsidized housing etc)
As far as those ‘great’ Bajans who seem not to get the same response as Oba and Rhi got…. you tell me how you rate their contribution to inspiring national spirit, self respect etc…
As far as standards go, this KB thing is a real blessing if we are smart. It demonstrates clearly the danger of lowering standards. Our ‘tent and ZR culture’ seems to lead us to accept all kinds of crassness – much like a lousy parent encouraging rudeness at home because it is so ‘cute’ and then being upset when the child ‘make dem shame’ in public and in front of friends.
You see the corn rows in parliament and the dread locks in school? — we will pay for these too- just wait….
me // February 23, 2008 at 6:45 pm
I agree with u 100%
People who succeed like Rihana are to be applauded. In fact we need our young people to see that you can succeed if you try!
We need to also show them that there is a time and a place for everything.
Corn rows in Parlaimnet is disrespectful ( they are ok at home , in the club , on the block, on the street etc. KB Kleans behaviour on that stage at that time was unacceptable ( it is ok in a tent, at a Madd performance etc).
Radiance // February 23, 2008 at 7:33 pm
Please explain exactly what is disrespectful about cornrows and dreadlocks. Disrespectful in what way? And disrespectful to whom? What are the characteristics of the people who find them disrespectful? Which standards are being lowered? By whom were these standards set? And when did they become the standards? Do standards ever change, or are they immutable?
What is the basis for comparing which of the following approaches to hair are more/less respectful or of a higher/lower standard: Braids, dreadlocks, cornrows, twists, weaves, wigs, a perm/relaxer, jheri curls, texturized hair, a short cut, plaits, a bald head, a bun, a ponytail, nubian knots/corkscrew, a bob, a shag, and the list goes on.
Thanks for replying.
born and bred // February 23, 2008 at 7:45 pm
Bush Tea:
What excellence is there in “Bad Girl” behaviour?
Amy Winehouse won the most Grammys is she to be applauded? Look at her lifestyle. What type of role model is she giving to young people?
This is not about Barbados, try and lift your sights higher. Aren’t you very insular in your perception?
This is about our young people and the direction in which they are going which is for the most part a negative one if you would be honest. It’s like that the world over not only on this “Rock”. Are “Hip-Hop” stars inspiring young people to greatness? If so at what?
Rihanna got a lucky break.
Are all Bajan young people going to repeat that? NO.
You mentioned free education. Why was it implemented? Was it not in the spirit of ASSISTING LESS FORTUNATE PEOPLE and building them up??
Do we applaud and lift up Bajans simply because they feed the Entertainment/Sports industry and are recognized in THE “GREAT USA??”"
Seems hypocritical to me. Bajans don’t have much use for that country or any of the other western countries until a Bajan gets recognition from them.
If that is what you believe will bring about excellence in young people we should be seeing it all like now so.
Seems to me Obadele brought home the bronze about six years ago but the youth are getting worse not better.
Bush Tea // February 23, 2008 at 10:52 pm
Ok Born and Bred…. I get you – you don’t understand….
You are focused on “assisting those who are less fortunate…”
Reflect on the parable of the talents and see if you can figure out why and under what circumstances, Jesus suggests that we should take even the little that the “less fortunate” has- and give to those that already have…
Snuff // February 23, 2008 at 11:36 pm
I agree with Technician,undertaker and also quite a few of you..it was our time to SHINE not DISGRACE… i was most horrified to see the manner in which KB “NASTY” was behaving and you would have thought the other MC “Hurricane” would have took over or did something to tame the fool… but then again what more can you expect from the two who have no class whatsoever…it disgusts me to think that one of the members of a school which is suppose to be one of the best in the island can display such ignorance for the whole world to see… it was embarassing and i wish someone would have stepped up and snatched the mike from the cunt who was obviously oblivious to the fact he was ripping away the proudness that we bajans have felt until that night and replacing it with nothing but shame and disgust…What business was it of his to ask those personal questions and on another hot topic addressing the Honourable David Thompson as “David ” infront of the whole nation like they were pitching marbles!weren’t these so called MC’S briefed on what was expected ??? or could it be they thought they were at Bachanal or Madd ????, there’s a new script for you Mr.Boyce ” KB’S WALK OF SHAME ” ….In my opinion Wayne “cool”simmons and Cassandra from the “chat room” would have been a perfect pair that night they were both excellent and very professional at the B.M.A’s and they both have class and manners and i also must comment on their diction and poise..you do not have to be vulgar or brawling to be a “PROUD BAJAN”….i’m sure Rihanna must have felt like crawling under a rock her very own “people” behaving in such manner..what confidence would that give her or her manager for future events in which she may be invited to attend here without asking the questions would they embarass me again?..despite all of that i must commend her on the way she handled it all..both KB and Hurricane were the faces and voices of Barbados in that i mean they were the ones speaking on all of our behalf and representing our Nation…. how could such a simple task go so wrong ?? and as for the whole show i thought it was tacky so much more could have been done the lack of preparation showed …..where was the podium? the whole paper reading thing was tacky although it did suit the two MC’S… but a podium would have been nice and why was karaoke going on if it was a tribute to Rihanna ???
Snuff
samizdat // February 24, 2008 at 12:49 am
“it was embarassing and i wish someone would have stepped up and snatched the mike from the cunt…”
Charming. So elegantly phrased. What a great role model for Bajan youth.
Seriously, isn’t a cretin like Snuff spewing this kind of disgusting trash on a blog for all the world to read far, far more shameful than anything silly, harmless KB Kleen is meant to have done?
Bimbro // February 24, 2008 at 5:02 am
Radiance // February 23, 2008 at 7:33 pm
Please explain exactly what is disrespectful about cornrows and dreadlocks. Disrespectful in what way? And disrespectful to whom? What are the characteristics of the people who find them disrespectful? Which standards are being lowered? By whom were these standards set? And when did they become the standards? Do standards ever change, or are they immutable?
What is the basis for comparing which of the following approaches to hair are more/less respectful or of a higher/lower standard: Braids, dreadlocks, cornrows, twists, weaves, wigs, a perm/relaxer, jheri curls, texturized hair, a short cut, plaits, a bald head, a bun, a ponytail, nubian knots/corkscrew, a bob, a shag, and the list goes on.
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These standards are set by intelligent, respectable, society!! Did n’t you know????
Kadri // February 24, 2008 at 8:03 am
bimbro i would hate to know you believe also that people who wear dreads or corn rows are not any of the above you mentioned.
let me make this clear to you or any who believe so, you cannot win this debate with me anyday.
corn row and dreads were classed by society as a thuglife or a way of living, if you want to measure a man by his appearance also include his academic achievements also. because we all know, the so called thugs do not have such achievements, well most of them.
its just like de earrings, people believe men should not wear earrings, well i got good news for you on that issue too, i have never seen a woman who born with holes in her ears fitted for earrings.
our problem today is that we cannot accept people for who they are, and because we were brought up in a certain way we think our bringing up is always correct. well the correct way of thinking is to have an open mind instead of having a selfish thought, i guess the doctors who wear cornrows you would not let them attend to you either.
the same so called intelligent respectable society who wore decent shaven heads, were the same ones who were the most corrupted administrators and CEOs, so dont comment jargon.
that comment is useless, you people who believe that, need to live on the outside world away from de british standards.
Bimbro // February 24, 2008 at 8:36 am
well the correct way of thinking is to have an open
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Kadri, the correct way of thinking is to have normal, decent standards!! I realise that may be a challenge, for some!!!!
Kadri // February 24, 2008 at 8:51 am
everything starts from our thoughts brimbo, if you want respect, you show it first right?
what do you consider normal decent standards?
clean shaven hair, trimmed beard? thats just appearance dude.
so what do you call the lecturers at the UWI who wear dreadlocks? sorry to say brimbo but you need to learn what standards are before you comment on them.
these so called standards were set by people who would not accept people for who they are and want to dictate to people what they should look like. is that not a form of dictatorship? then you people would cry down castro for telling people they cannot have 2 cars.
fair is fair, if you do not think people who wear corn rows or dreads are decent, do not read their articles in the paper, do not speak to them, do not let them prescribe you medication or even come in contact with you.
i have a bald head that i keep clean every 4 days,
i would hate to know i am being discriminated against because of the style i choose to wear my hair, i am sure you would too. if not you yet have a lot to learn.
and last but not least.
Brimbo, the correct way of thinking is to accept people regardless of how they style their appearance!! I realise that may be a challenge, for you!!!!
Bimbro // February 24, 2008 at 9:13 am
Some people delight in making fools of themselves and black people, as a whole, whether they realise they’re doing so, or not!!!!
Anonny // February 24, 2008 at 9:20 am
Can’t we all agree that all individuals should be able to do what they want with their hair? Can we agree that as a society our standards are shaped by all kinds of things which influence our thoughts and perceptions.
Let us all agree that certain modes of dress, speech and other mannerisms we rightly or wrongly associate with diviant behavious.
Let us all agree that the plaiting of hair, wearing of tattoes and baggy clothing is associated with a diviant lifestyle which natuturally shape our opinions.
Dont all of these these determine what standards our society will accept?
Just asking Kadri.
Bimbro // February 24, 2008 at 9:24 am
The problem is; is straightened-hair inappropriate, at any time?? I maintain that it is. If cornrow is inappropriate then why not straightened-hair? Neither is natural to us and only a manifestation of our widespread vanity which, normally, everyone would agree was n’t commendable!
born and bred // February 24, 2008 at 9:25 am
Defending the Faith — Bush Tea
What kind of convoluted machinations, “thinking”, could bring one to misconstrue the piece of Scripture you have abused in your response to what I said.
Answering you now, who are pathetically throwing up dust to cloud the issues:
Jesus set aside his Divinity and went so far as to give His life for those of us who are mere mortals, not only for the “Rich and Famous.”
To imply that He in any way inferred the abuse of power or position to the advantage of the privileged is to say, in more recent times, “If you’re white you’re right, if you’re black stay back”.
There is no political leadership in Barbados whose foundation was not against such principles of the rights of the “privileged few” to the disadvantage and denigration of the masses. Hence the free education you mentioned earlier, that Rihanna enjoyed.
It is an observable phenomenon, worldwide, that we humans live vicariously through the “Glory of our Idols”………….. sports, entertainment, politics, big business what have you.
Juxtaposition, (compare) this against the lot of the Roman populace during the time preceding the fall of that Empire.
Similarly the lot of the African Diaspora in the western hemisphere supporting the lifestyle of the “Plantocracy” (the “Rich and Famous” of that time). “Capitalism and Slavery”.
The focal point of my contribution to this thread is to bring into context the “CONTRAST” of our, Bajan, response to one in need and one in plenty.
We as a Nation have given to someone who currently would be the beneficiary of an extraordinary income and lifestyle but prefer to “HIDE” and “DISAVOW” any knowledge of the least fortunate in our midst.
As it were “chasing away the lepers and the blind and the halt” from God’s mercy.
You would suggest that they should go and see the Welfare Department while you take your hard earned money, via your tax dollars, VAT etc. and give it to somebody who already has more than enough.
Did Rihanna offer to give anything to Stephen Grant or any of the other homeless, disenfranchised Barbadians who were scrunting in the back alleys while she was enjoying her “birthday cake”???
Kadri // February 24, 2008 at 9:36 am
Anonny // February 24, 2008 at 9:20 am
Can’t we all agree that all individuals should be able to do what they want with their hair? Can we agree that as a society our standards are shaped by all kinds of things which influence our thoughts and perceptions.
Let us all agree that certain modes of dress, speech and other mannerisms we rightly or wrongly associate with diviant behavious.
Let us all agree that the plaiting of hair, wearing of tattoes and baggy clothing is associated with a diviant lifestyle which natuturally shape our opinions.
Dont all of these these determine what standards our society will accept?
Just asking Kadri.
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obviously only in our modern day society under the british dude.
corn rows from biblical days, tattoos are ancient body art adapted by the egyptians and baggy pants are fashions worn by the hip hop culture.
in other words, when i go to a store, i do not see gangster nor executive over the labels, i only see a price, you are and will be a fool to judge someone based on their appearance, for example.
i was on duty in the city an evening dressed in my party attire and an elderly lady was behind me and asked me why i don’t go and look for a job and stop walking bout de place like i foolish.
never judge one by their clothing, or how they wear their hair.
what would you say about adonijah then who wears dreadlocks? that he is a theif and druglord like the others who were charged with his same appearance?
i call wunna fools simply because everyday people go before the courts who appear decently dressed and they are charged with some high court offences, and based on your beliefs, i would say you too are criminals just like them, no appearance of any man can be judged.
Kadri // February 24, 2008 at 9:37 am
sorry fuh de spelling errors
Bimbro // February 24, 2008 at 9:42 am
so what do you call the lecturers at the UWI who wear dreadlocks?
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a**holes!!!!
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fair is fair, if you do not think people who wear corn rows or dreads are decent, do not read their articles in the paper, do not speak to them, do not let them prescribe you medication or even come in contact with you.
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I don’t, unless I’m absolutely, desperate!!!!
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P.S. What’s the matter with the hair which got prescribed for you?? Think u know better than he does, I guess?*!*!*!*!! As I mentioned, ‘making a fool of your/ourselves’!!!!
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Brimbo, the correct way of thinking is to accept people regardless of how they style their appearance!! I realise that may be a challenge, for you!!!!
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You’re so right, it’s more than a challenge for me. In fact, it’s an unacceptable, challenge for if I had the power, I certainly, would n’t stand for it!!
Point in question: looked out of my window a few minutes ago, to be ‘greeted’, i.e. horrified, by the sight of an idiot Jamaican, rasta looking more like excrement on legs than anything else, and that’s what u say we shoud accept!!
I’ve only one reply to that, it’s, “you must be joking”!!!! Any other reply of mine, would be unpublishable!!!!
Bimbro // February 24, 2008 at 9:46 am
Look, de lord prescribe wha I should look like an I happy wid it, hearrrrrrrrrrrrrrr?!!!
Not to mention any other, but, for this reason alone, other races think we’re pathetic!!!!
‘Well done’, Kadri and others for giving them that perception!!!!
Kadri // February 24, 2008 at 9:54 am
you certainly revealed the type of so called decent you are with your comments.
kudos to you
David // February 24, 2008 at 9:54 am
In defense of Rihanna she has a charity and the tribute given to her by the government promoted it, Believe Foundation we think it is called. It was set up to assist terminally ill children. Although it is a universal charity and Stephen grant may not qualify, she is helping people.
On the other side of the coin we want to agree maybe that with the exception of government the businesses (Warren Motors, Colombian Emeralds, Simpson Motors and other) who gave Rihanna jewellery, jeep and other hands outs which she can afford from her petty cash could have looked at making the donations to a charity in her name. We are sure Rihanna would have been agreeable to this approach.
This is a minority view we are hearing coming through on BU which we want to highlight a little.
Bimbro // February 24, 2008 at 9:54 am
It’s probably this dissatisfaction with our physical appearance, which has ****ed-up our people mentally, for so long and decimated the achievements which they would otherwise, have made!!!!
Bimbro // February 24, 2008 at 10:03 am
Kadri // February 24, 2008 at 9:54 am
you certainly revealed the type of so called decent you are with your comments.
kudos to you
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Thank you, Kadri. That’s right, I realise it might not be very, fashionable among your cirle of friends, but I’m proud to be decent!!!!
me // February 24, 2008 at 10:46 am
It is idealistic to think that we are not judged by the way we look, by the way we present ourselves. If the senator is on a crusade to change the current 2008 standard for what is presentable then good for him but I dont think that was the case. He would have to tell me otherwise.
I am well aware of how we african people were introduced to straightened hair etc but that is not the point. It matters not how we got here what matters is an understanding of how things currently work.
If the senator had worn locs , a dashiki or such like I would have no problem since they usually mean SOMETHING! Cornrows FOR MEN in this day and age are not regal,conservative or serious. Maybe the senator can change that view!
Standards change and expectations change but Im confused by this one!
Radiance // February 24, 2008 at 1:07 pm
I see that there have been few attempts to really address the set of questions I posed, though. Saying that X is respectable/presentable because respectable/presentable people say it is, or that it is the standard because that’s what the standard is at the moment doesn’t say anything at all. What is our rationale for saying that some hairstyles are “good” and some hairstyles are “bad”?
(BU, sorry to be writing about all this on a Rihanna thread, but this is where I saw the comments being made).
Kadri // February 24, 2008 at 1:14 pm
radiance, all i can say is that some people’s level of thinking are still stuck in their backsides, so they cannot think for themselves and make their own judgement, they can only speak about what they were told, but not what they believe.
nothing is good or bad about a hairstyle, its a part of our body we just happen to manage differently.
this is from someone with an open mind.
me // February 24, 2008 at 1:24 pm
There is no rationale, they is no rationale for what is acceptable speech, what is acceptable dress, what is acceptable anything if you really think about it. Indeed why are they even rules since we each individually can think for our selves. Why don’t we just all do as we please?
I never said that the man’s hairstyle was bad. I said they is a time an place or the most recent catchphrase “a sense of occassion.”
Question? Do you think that ALL black women will make their hair natural now that they know ‘ where they came from.’
Why dont we all speak Dialect AT ALL TIMES!
Why don’t we all let our pants fall off our ASSES?
Seems to me that the current caribbean way of doing some things work ( whether it has a european or african origin or both) quite well.
We shouldnt have been dragged here screaming from the mother land BUT we HERE NOW so what to do????
me // February 24, 2008 at 1:28 pm
please excuse my “theys” they should be THEREs
Technician // February 24, 2008 at 1:28 pm
Kadri..
Trying to get through to Bimbro is an exercise in futility!!
Lets just leave him in his apt complex surrounded by the very people he hates..that is his punishment until he croaks.
This thing about hairstyles is just how we think as a people.Maybe if we all parted our hair down the middle all would be ok.
I have dreadlocks, yet still I work for and represent five of the Commercial Banks in Barbados .Everyday I am in the contact with people from all levels of society.My hairstyle does not stop me from being professional, disciplined and courteous in carrying out my duties.
I just think it is sad when we are judged by our appearance as opposed to our qualities.
One thing which will stay with me though..is that …funny enough….the ones who always have a problem with my locks are black people like me.
I was turned down by two black employers because of my dreadlocks while looking
for a job.
At the interview for the third job, I asked if my locks were a problem. I was told no, as long as I had a police certificate of character(due to the nature of the job), was qualified, professional,well mannered and well spoken, this was all that is required.
I am employed still and have had nothing but commendations from my clients, who see me as an asset to my company.
On the topic of the senator with corn rows.
Why not use him to show the others that you can be something regardless of you hairstyles.Can’t he be used as an example to the youth today to make something of themselves?Must we turn this into a negative issue , when as a positive one it can have more impact?
This young man is successful, bright and decent.Would it not be better to show others what they can achieve in life with hard work, rather than pulling him down because of his hairstyle?
Technician // February 24, 2008 at 1:36 pm
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Bimbro // February 24, 2008 at 10:03 am
Kadri // February 24, 2008 at 9:54 am
you certainly revealed the type of so called decent you are with your comments.
kudos to you
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Thank you, Kadri. That’s right, I realise it might not be very, fashionable among your cirle of friends, but I’m proud to be decent!!!!
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How can you be decent when this is your way of thinking…..’looked out of my window a few minutes ago, to be ‘greeted’, i.e. horrified, by the sight of an idiot Jamaican, rasta looking more like excrement on legs than anything else…..’.
How do you know this man is an idiot?
What gives you the right to call him excrement?
One of these good days Bimbro…you might very well need that same “excrement ” to give you a hand.
If you are decent……..then I am the Pope!!
Bimbro // February 24, 2008 at 3:02 pm
Hearty congratulations to the various Barbadian educational establishments which have cracked-down on students’ disgusting appearance. There will always be those, in all areas of society, who will try to drag everybody else down into the gutter with them. They must be resisted and rejected!!!!
When I think of the cumulative, centuries which black women have wasted trying to make their hair straigt like white womens’ hair it really makes me sick!! Is it any wonder we’re at the bottom of the pile!! While our women are busy straightening their hair, the world’s other women are busy studying, or training or helping their children with their studies!! Poor black women!!!!
Techie, I did n’t say that he was excrement but that he ‘looked like excrement-on-legs’, which he did!! You must get your understanding straight, first!!
I guess it would be ok if Thompson wore locks!!!!
Bimbro // February 24, 2008 at 3:08 pm
When it is n’t the rastas, it’s the homosexuals or some other deviants trying to drag our society down with them. They must all be resisted or we shall all end up in the gutter, which, of course, is precisely what they want, where they’ll be in their version of filth-heaven!!!!
Technician // February 24, 2008 at 5:33 pm
Bimbro says..’I guess it would be ok if Thompson wore locks!!!!
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Once again, you have shown your ignorance to all things Bajan.
I am waiting patiently for You to be sooooo disappointed in our new PM when you realise that his very close friend who is always in his company, is in fact a Rastaman.
Explain to us on this blog, what is wrong with being Rastafarian.
There are Rastafarian police in the NYPD, there are Rastafarian lawyers etc.
Rastafarian has never tried to drag down society but rest assured, society has tried their collective best to drag down Rastafari.
So ignorant Bimbro and others, please ……understand what Rastafari is about first before you go bashing something you know nothing about.
Everyone with dreadlocks on their heads are not Rastafari.
As for the institutions here against locks, it is all hypocrisy and double standards as usual.
The SJPP is a tertiary institution just like the BCC and UWI.
The majority of students at SJPP are from working class families. This ignorance would never be seen or heard at the other two institutions, I bet my pension on it.
Rastafari is a recognized religion in this country and it is sad that others can practice theirs freely while the ignorant stigma attached to Rastafari continues to this day to be a hindrance to others.
Observer // February 24, 2008 at 5:45 pm
I did not see or attend the show. I only know what I heard on the call-in-programmes.After some time to reflect I see noyhing wrong with Kb’s presentation. What the whole world got to see was our culture at work. The fact that we can go on a first name basis with our prime minister. Could he have done that in Cuba? Lighten up people.Stop living your live to impress others. Ok he might behave that way in a tent but it is that same tent culture that we look forward to each year and the foreign exchange that it brings. We also have lots of international journalist here at crop-over. I do not hear you people complaining then. We had our pm on stage minus any significant amount of security. That girl and her guy had security white-house style. These are the positives that we should be focusing on from the show. Kb is an excellent performer and a real pro. What he does takes talent. The others that you guys are mentioning would have made the show boring and not really bajan. Thanks Kevin for keeping it real.
Bimbro // February 25, 2008 at 4:28 am
Explain to us on this blog, what is wrong with being Rastafarian.
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Well, it begins with ’s’ and ends with ‘t’!! I leave u to work out the answer!! Of course there’re also, homosexuals in the NYPD. They’re both proof of one thing – either the NYPD is desperate for recruits or just how persistent these people can be!! I suspect it’s a mixutre of the two!!!
Society has not to be gutless and stand-up to the degenerates who would drag us all down into the gutter with them!!!! That’s precisely, what they hope will happen and has so often, that we’ll give-up the fight, as clearly, is the case in the NYPD!!!!
We must resist them, at all points, or next, it’ll be the child and women-abusers and murders demanding exception!!!!
We need to be less gutless!!!!
Bimbro // February 25, 2008 at 4:31 am
As far as Thompson’s friend being a Rasta is concerned; Thompson has, YET, to prove himself, in my book!!!!
He’s only just started!! He’s still very, much ‘under-probation’, as far as I’m concerned!!!!
I in impress by e pretty-color!!!! :)
Radiance // February 25, 2008 at 11:11 am
Are you listening to Peter Wickham on Brass Tacks? He made some opening remarks regarding Kevin Hinds’ apology, people’s tendency to flog an issue to death, and the hair discrimination issue. Honestly, sometimes I don’t agree with all he says, but you have to give him props for setting out his arguments beautifully. Tune in to VOB.
born and bred // February 25, 2008 at 2:23 pm
Rihanna Helping N.Y. Leukemia Patient
Feb. 24, 2008, 7:30 AM EST
The above was pasted from an MSN link today.
Consider Barbados taxpayers pay for her to receive some of the gifts she accepted and who does she help? A Barbadian? NO a New-York resident.
Just the point I have been making.
Rohan // February 25, 2008 at 2:43 pm
She deserves it. Love her! Do yuh ting sis.
GoWEB Blog » » Web Roundup (Feb 18th - Feb 22nd) // February 25, 2008 at 4:12 pm
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Sam Gamgee // February 25, 2008 at 7:08 pm
Technician, Radiance and Kadri I salute you. I endorse your comments about the hair thing and Bimbro’s attitude.
I love the senator’s hair and I thought it was like a fresh breeze blowing through that stuffy place and I was really waiting to see when the blogs were going to start up a thread about the controversy. Even now they have not done it.
The men’s hairstyles always look better than the ladies own.
If he bows in to the pressure and changes to suit the backward looking section of the population I am going to call him personally and well I won’t tell you all what I will say.
I enjoy my black hair and I do not ever want to be any thing but black, well maybe rich.
Seriously though, the world is not the same place it was a 20 years ago, we are more conscious of ourselves and our past as a people and we know that they are many things to be proud of.
When I first read Farley’s article I could not believe that we were still there so many years after a woman took the Hilton hotel to court and won over her black hairstyle.
If we are discussing hair in 2008 how far have we come really? What mirror image do we have really?
Anyway, I here talking too much.
Sam Gamgee // February 25, 2008 at 7:09 pm
Seriously though, the world is not the same place it was 20 years ago, we are more conscious of ourselves and our past as a people and we know that there are many things to be proud of.
Technician // February 25, 2008 at 8:38 pm
Bimbro says (yawn)….’When I think of the cumulative, centuries which black women have wasted trying to make their hair straigt like white womens’ hair it really makes me sick!! Is it any wonder we’re at the bottom of the pile!! While our women are busy straightening their hair, the world’s other women are busy studying, or training or helping their children with their studies!! Poor black women!!!!
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Listen man…..make up your mind on which side of the fence you want to sit.
If black people leave their hair natural, it will eventually lock, as this is the natural process.
You cry down Rastafarians for letting their hair grow naturally, yet you cry down women for relaxing their hair.
You are one confused old man.
Drifter // February 25, 2008 at 8:44 pm
Observer… i do not see anything in KB’s bahaviour the least bit close to what our so called culture is..unless it’s acting like some drug addict swept off the streets and having a microphone stuck in his hand is what you mean by “our culture” i still don’t see the comparison …and he didn’t keep anything real ..behaving like a mad ass that just crawled out of a hole for the first time isn’t real to me..he is not a pro..pro’s don’t act like they’ve never been on stage and haven’t a clue on how to bahave infront of thousands of people…..I think quite a few of these so called MC’S need to go back to the drawing board….in Cuba he would have stood corrected with a bullet in his head!.. someone should have set the example that night …what’s done is done..karaoke night is over.
Drifter
Bimbro // February 26, 2008 at 2:09 am
Sam Gamgee // February 25, 2008 at 7:08 pm
Technician, Radiance and Kadri I salute you. I endorse your comments about the hair thing and Bimbro’s attitude.
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Is that the same Sam de Gamgee dat born on a mondie & christen pun a tuesdie!!!!
Lorddddddddddddddddddddddddd :)
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If black people leave their hair natural, it will eventually lock, as this is the natural process.
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Techie, it may or may not, ‘lock’, but you still look like a pig!!!! I don’t like to see my people looking that way & I certainly, would n’t look at a woman who looked that way, except, of course, to run as far away and as fast away from her, as I could!!!!
Clearly, u would though!!!! I in suh desperate!!!!
In fact, I’ve reconsidered!! I look forward to our Primeminister looking like excrement on legs!! Then, I guess, you’ll all be happy!!!!
Afterall, if it’s good enough for the Primeminister, it should be good enough for the rest of us?!!!!
Bush tea // February 26, 2008 at 4:21 am
Some rationality needs to be brought to this whole question of National Standards.
Lack of standards lead to chaos and the reality is that we usually settle at the lowest common denominator.
When allegedly intelligent people like Peter Wickham can seek to justify a hairstyle standard based on the fact than ‘it is worn by some folks in Africa’ we know that we are scraping the bottom.
‘..some folks in Africa’ also run around naked. some traditionally inflict grotesque (to us) distortions to their bodies – would these traditional situations be ‘OK’ here – and in our Senate especially- as well?
Obviously, everyone is free to live their lives as it pleases themselves. This cannot be disputed and should not be changed.
What we cannot have however, is a situation where in our NATIONAL life, persons who choose to live outside of what is determined by the majority to be the norm (THE STANDARD) imposing their own ’standards’ on the rest of us.
This is simple organisational behavior theory.
When you become a member of an organisation, (Church, Army, Club, Credit Union etc) you learn the RULES of that organisation and either decide to abide or leave. The other option is to seek to convince a majority of us that the standard should be adjusted……it is the same with being a part of an organised society.
So first, we need to have clear, known standards
and then these must be articulated and enforced by our leaders
Failure to do this will result in the ridiculous situations that we now see in the USA with respect to banning prayers in school (except after mass shootings), and the chaos that we see in in their homes, schools, courts and workplaces etc.
…as I said we are victims of poor leadership and weak management.
I personally believe that people are meant to demonstrate their character in the way that they carry themselves. While I respect the right of individuals to allow their hair to grow into locks or for men to wear traditionally feminine trimmings like ear rings and corn rows, these behaviors to me reflect personal characteristics.
In the same way, we all make judgments about persons who rarely takes showers or wash their hands after certain chores.
It is therefore quite silly to attempt to justify a hairstyle on the basis that ‘I was born with my hair kinky’….. so let it knot up and become one big mess of gunk?
We were born without education too..so should we remain ignorant?
We were born without an organised society -should we live like wild animals?
To Kevin Hinds credit, his Madd group along with Lil Rick and their allies in the ZR culture, have ,over the last 15 years or so seeking to change the ’standards’ of decency in our society. They have been ably supported by many of us who flock to their tents, give Lil Rick liberal air time to promote his ’standards’ and allow the ZR boys to rule the roost on the roads and with our school children.
It was therefore somewhat unfair when they were shocked last week into the realization that we have DOUBLE STANDARDS here…. one that is OK normally – and another for when we have ‘company’.
I think that we need to establish a clear Barbadian Identity, with CLEAR standards and a broad consensus for what is acceptable behavior.
DLP, Can we have some leadership in this matter PLEASE?
David // February 26, 2008 at 4:40 am
Bush tea one of the greatest purveyors of this lowering of standards is VoB who allows Lil Ric and others to spout their filth on the ‘air and in the chair’ for the almighty dollar. They now have the gumption to be asking for a TV station. Heaven help us!
Technician // February 26, 2008 at 7:06 am
In all fairness Bush Tea…….Have you really seen dreadlocks on most people nowadays?
Obviously not, otherwise your quote is senseless.
Both women and men with locks take care of their hair better that you allude too.
It is a hairstyle, stop with the colonial thinking and either accept it or move away.
Some of the brightest kids at UWI have locks.
Arthur Holder has, is he bad?
Doctors, lawyers, teachers etc wear this style .By your arguments then many of us are wrong and deviant? Give me a break man.
We always see the cup as half empty.
Sam Gamgee // February 26, 2008 at 8:06 am
Bimbro, BU needs to censor you.
Bush tea, I have come to expect better of you but I guess that sometimes we all show our clay feet.
Seems BU now has a thread on the hair issue so this debate/talk can be taken over there.
Bimbro // February 26, 2008 at 8:43 am
‘..some folks in Africa’ also run around naked. some traditionally inflict grotesque (to us) distortions to their bodies – would these traditional situations be ‘OK’ here – and in our Senate especially- as well?
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Bush Tea, u tell the idiots!! I tired talking!!!!
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Obviously, everyone is free to live their lives as it pleases themselves. This cannot be disputed and should not be changed.
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I know what u mean here, ‘Bush’, but, only within reason!! When you think about it, seriously, that’s not true at all!! We all have to function within the confines of the law!!!!
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Bush, the only ‘CLEAR Barbadian identity’ which I’ve observed from across the seas is ‘TO FOLLOW WHATEVER THE JAMAICANS DO’!!!!, you can rest assured!!!!
Barbadians are so keen to be loved by the JAs that whatever the JAs bring-out, no matter how filthy, you can rest assured that a Barbadian will be wanting to foist it on Bim society, the following day!!!!
Poor Bajans, and to compound the embarassment, THE JAs, themselves, DON’T EVEN HAVE ANY TIME FOR US!!!!
It’s laughable not to mention, pathetic!!!!
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Sam de Gamgee, I’m not surprised that u would say that. You’re obviously, of the ilk who consider the best way to win an argument is to censor anybody expressing a contrary point of view. That’s the way to progress is n’t it Sam!!! You’re FOS!!!!
Mr. Submission // February 26, 2008 at 8:54 am
I am a fan of MADD. They are downright funny the Bajan way. I dont like their overemphasis on homosexuality. Kevin Hinds antics were not representative of MADD in Independence Square. There was nothing funny or laughable in his emceeing. He was rude, crude, arrogant, embarassing.
This should serve as a timely wake up call for Cranston Browne (what is his post in gob?) and govt organizers of these events. Everyone involved in these affairs must be chosen carefully. It was a great idea gone bad. Rihanna deserved to be feted royally. KB Kleen deserved to be one of the spectators who climbed the Errol Barrow statue to watch the show in silence and reverence.
Sam Gamgee // February 26, 2008 at 9:09 am
Sam de Gamgee, I’m not surprised that u would say that. You’re obviously, of the ilk who consider the best way to win an argument is to censor anybody expressing a contrary point of view. That’s the way to progress is n’t it Sam!!! You’re FOS!!!!
Hmm, guess you may be incapable of being contrary without being insulting then. The blog is poorer for it.
Well never mind me; it ain’t my blog. Carry on in the way you know best.
Drifter // February 26, 2008 at 3:57 pm
AGREED MR.SUBMISSION!!!!
Tell me Why // February 28, 2008 at 10:18 am
Would you believe the garbage uttered by Hartley Henry in his today’s column “Under the Microscope”.
Hartley said>> “In a strange way, KB is himself a victim. He is not solely responsible for what he said and did on the magical night. As an entertainer in Barbados, where would he have gone to learn preferred and acceptable conduct”?
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Would you believe a brilliant individual who would have utilised our free educational system and be garnered by parental training from young to know when you should speak and how far you should go. KB is an expert on body language since he know how to motivate his audience by the response he received whilst being an MC. Did KB not look at the facial expression of the Prime Minister? Did he not realise that the microphone was pulled from his hands? That Rihanna face showed resentment everytime he shout out her name and Chris Brown? Did he not get the vibes or he did not ‘get real’.
Hartley, you went on to say that “Talented people like KB Kleen were never schooled in the ‘dos and don’ts’ of performing”. His action have nothing to do with entertainment training, it was simply ‘manners’ which he failed to display on that night, it is also protocol which he simply overlooked. Where was the stage manager, why no one spoke to him whilst an act was on, the whole action was totally pathetic.
You are trying to confuse the public by stating KB’s down fall should be blamed on the NCF’s rudderless performance. What utter rubbish. Who was responsible for the staging of this concert? Let the public know now. I am not trying to bash the true occasion for this celebration which I saw as visionary since it was overlooked by the previous administration. But it was a ‘do fuh do’ due to the majority of the acts were part of the musical electioneering for the party. That is the mistake since these acts found it difficult to separate electioneering from protocol. Hartley, you failed in defending mediocrity from quality. You joined KB in standing 6ft tall, this time on your head. Get the picture.
You are using swing in condemning the NCF in this scenario to show KB’s behaviour was due to the ‘rudderless’
Me // February 28, 2008 at 11:10 am
Its amazing how he took an issue of simple protocol, manners and common sense by KB clean and poor organization by those responsible and made it into a swipe at the previous Government. How sad that it has come to this…
raven // February 28, 2008 at 7:17 pm
we are really living in times of neo colonialism when a person is treated like royalty for signing songs riddle in double endree and wearing skimpy clothing on stage. is this all our country have to be proud of??? thing that gets me is the girl contributes nothing to our econmy with all her millions. we have a situation where poor ppl cant afford to buy land goverment cant fine land or money to buy or build low income housing everyday some one is put on the streets but we can fine it to give a rich american citizen??? sales generated from her albumns go straight to the american economy not ours. yes she started a charity but thats like protocol for alllllll celebrities its a tactic so they dont look like selfish beast if she really cared about barbados why not start one for BAJANS maybe something to help other barbadian achieve what she has because we have a lot of talented bajan out there strugling everyday to get notice and they sound wayyyyy better than rihanna. its sad to see that we judge according to american standards. ya all need to open ya all eyes and get real yes good for the girl for getting worldwide reconition but is this the message we wanna send to the youth that the only way we could make it is by performing half naked by having that american image?? dont we have more to be proud of in barbados??
Tell me Why // February 28, 2008 at 9:05 pm
thing that gets me is the girl contributes nothing to our econmy with all her millions.
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Are you sure what you are speaking about? She might not give millions in cash to Barbados, but her popularity is worth much more than you might think. She is projecting our island to billions of people who never heard about Barbados, at least ten per cent of that audience would become potential visitors. No advertising on the radio, television, newspapers or billboards can replace her voice when she mention her birthplace Barbados.
We keep saying that we have poor people, Yes, it might be true, but we are far better off than our resourceful big brothers with all the oil, bauxite, aluminum, forestry, gold and vast land space. Our so called ‘poor people’ have cell phones for all members of the household, massive TV’s that you have to knock down the side of the house for it to get inside, satellites that pulling over or blocking the house, brand-name clothing that resembles a clothing store, jewelery on hands and neck that make the person a walking jewellery store and the SUV’s, Mercedes and BMW’s park infront the said ‘poor people’.
Regarding the naked talk, we should refrain from throwing stones at glass houses when you don’t have a solid door.
And yes indeed, we have a lot to be proud of here in Barbados, minus your poor rhetoric.
me // February 28, 2008 at 9:54 pm
lol Raven…typical hogwash. So her contribution is measured by her directly giving a specific sum to Barbadians??? Nonsense! not worthy of further comment.!
Tell me Why // February 29, 2008 at 11:12 am
Denis Johnson also realised the stupidity of Hartley Henry’s article praising KB Kleen and he condemned him on Brass Tacks now airing on VOB.
What I don’t understand is why partisan supporters and others failed to disassociate themselves from his article “Under the Microscope”.
Yall Jokey // February 29, 2008 at 3:38 pm
Okay folks..when rihanna gets played in america or around the world her music is seen as American..not caribbean. Please do not mistake the infrequent mentions of her homeland (usually in forums where such information means nothing to the listeners) as publicity. I agree..hogwash..or rather swinewash
raven // February 29, 2008 at 5:31 pm
Okay folks..when rihanna gets played in america or around the world her music is seen as American..not caribbean.
exactly my point half the ppl who listen to her doesnt even know she isnt american or where she comes from she isnt singing anything barbadian or that identifies with bajan or caribbean culture for that matter. bob marley promoted jamaica by promotingJAMAICAN music he did go over there singing american pop he made the world stand up and listen to reggea paving the way for other jamaican reggae artiste rihanna is an american citizen who just happens to have roots in barbados now and ya all naive if u think that her fame is going to wash barbados with tourist cause so far its the same no major influx
Bajan Girl // February 29, 2008 at 11:32 pm
Raven,
I agree with some of your comments. Brace yourself for some vicious attacks. Some closed minded Rihanna fanatics post on this blog. They are intolerant of anyone who does not speak favorably of Rihanna.
I agree with you that Rihanna’s success to date has done nothing tangible for Barbadians. Some people say she has introduced the world to Barbados. She has done that. She has introduced some people to Barbados by telling them Barbadians don’t like to see each other get ahead. She has introduced some people to Barbados by telling them Barbadians always talk sh*t about her. She has introduced others to Barbados by telling them her mother had to quit a job in Barbados because of the “cattiness” of her Barbadian coworkers. I am sure the world now has a lovely image of Barbadians after her tirades to the foreign media.
A story that is making the rounds in newspapers in the United States is that Rihanna is working to help a White American leukemia victim, Lisa Gershowitz Flynn, find a bone marrow donor. Mrs. Flynn is a well-to-do attorney from Manhattan. It is fine and dandy that Rihanna is trying to help Mrs. Flynn, who doctors say has just weeks to live, but is she doing anything for cancer patients in Barbados? Recently, Andrew Burke, a White Barbadian amputee who lost an arm to cancer, sailed around Barbados using one arm to raise money for the Barbados Cancer Society. Based on what I have read, Mr. Burke suffers from heart cancer, which has spread to his lungs. Even though he is sick, he is working to raise money, so that Black children like Tianna Pompey and Xavier Greenidge can get help. Tianna Pompey was scheduled to have an arm amputated around Christmas time, because her mother could not afford the million dollars Canadian doctors wanted to treat her cancer. Because the Nation Newspaper does not often do follow-up stories, and I live overseas, I never heard what became of her. Xavier Greenidge lost a leg to cancer.
Rihanna founded a charity, but guess what, it is not to help Barbadians. It is to help children around the world.
Thank God for White Barbadians like Andrew Burke. If it were left up to Black Barbadians like Rihanna and her supporters, most Black Barbadians in need wouldn’t get “jack,” as African Americans would say.
Raven, I said in the past I would not post on this blog anymore, but I know how vicious people on this blog can be to people who do not worship Rihanna. I just thought I would let you know there are some more of us out here who think Bajans should be focused on more important things.
Of course now there will be the predictable “You are jealous of Rihanna” responses. LOL
me // March 1, 2008 at 5:44 am
Dear Bajan ’sour grapes girl Rihanna can’t be all things to all people. Why does she bother you so???? Are you failing in what you want to achieve ?
It is quite sad to see you continually try to disparage someone who is succeeding with your silly expectations. But you have a right to your opinion. . I just pray that you dont get an ulcer from worrying so much!
sagacity // March 1, 2008 at 8:10 am
Stinking Bajan Girl said
“Thank God for White Barbadians”
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How can anyone try to discredit a shining light for Barbados and moreso its youth and write this. Rihanna you are a gem. You are wise beyond your years. Ignore the Bajan Girls, ravens,yall jokeys…they are scum. Rihanna walk good Barbados is behind you.
raven // March 1, 2008 at 5:12 pm
lol well noted bajan girl and as i see the rihanna devil worshippers or vivicious in there attacks but everyone needs someone to worship so if the think rihanna is there god good for them
Werfy // March 4, 2008 at 3:01 pm
Hey ich mach ein referat über rihanna und muss es auf englisch vortragen kein plan wie ich das mache es muss ein V.I.P poster sein kann mir einer helfen??
confussion // June 2, 2008 at 11:50 pm
I agree with you Born and Dred i agree i guess Bush Tea run out of words for you . God Bless.
Bonita // September 22, 2008 at 3:16 pm
I love the way she takes on changles that life has to offer.
Cawmere inda Blood // October 30, 2008 at 8:38 pm
Instead of manifesting such jealousy for a great school and tradition I would just like to see more Barbadians from other schools emulating the school spirit of Combermerians which has for over 300 years inspired many to achieve and press UP and ON!
P.S. Our apologies for appearing so shobbish and in your face…if that’s y u really hate us, who know who you are…or do you?
SHELITA // November 7, 2008 at 7:10 pm
RIHANNA I LOVVVVVVE YOUR MUSIC!!!!! AND I HOPE U & CHRIS STAY TOGETHER IN HAPPYNESS FOR EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
zuri // February 13, 2009 at 11:55 pm
i did like chris brown ,but now i hate him