Fox News using racists attacks on Barack Obama
We have said it before and with 41 days to go before Americans elect their President, we have become more convinced that America may not be ready to have a Black President occupy the White House. Last night we listened with dropped jaw to Sarah Palin’s supporters congratulating themselves because she will be doing a crash course in foreign policy by using her recently issued passport very shortly. Here is a document about Sarah Palin making the rounds on the Internet.
What do you think?
We believe most Americans have made up their minds, for those still undecided they maybe persuaded after the Presidential Debate this coming Friday.
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David // September 24, 2008 at 7:47 AM
Why were the journalists not allowed to question Palin at the UN yesterday?
Why has Palin not had a Press Conference to date?
The scout // September 24, 2008 at 7:49 AM
I’m scared of what will happen if or when Obama loses this elections. I predict USA is on the brink of total collapse, it’s only help, as that is slim, is electing Obama. I also predict that if or when he loses there will be a series of riots all over USA. THe relationship between blacks ans white would deteriorate.
Les // September 24, 2008 at 8:03 AM
According to the Wall Street Journal , Obama is ahead in the Red State.
How does McCain turn in himself into economist populist? I wonder how he can do it and beat Obama.
Palin and his record does not make them economic populists. Economic populists win this election and not people who are trying to defend the free market.
Yes, the Cato Institute will still defend the idea of free, unregulated markets but the idea that markets can regulate itself any more are over with.
Tony Hall // September 24, 2008 at 8:25 AM
I know that there are white people here in the USA who will not vote for OBama simply because he is black. However people are hurting economically and it has come down now to a situation where persons will go into the voting booth and they are going to ask themselves if they want to continue with the policies of Bush via McCain which is fu****g up this country or if they want a change.
Bush tea // September 24, 2008 at 9:09 AM
Tony Hall,
Want what change what??!!
McCain and Palin are excellently suited to lead the USA….. the blind leading the blind.
When wanna yankees voted for Bush over Gore it was clear to me that all hope had gone.
When Bush was reelected based on his ‘war on terror’, it could only have been downhill from there….
….things are so bad now, that the ONLY way that another republican could win in 2008 would have been for a woman or black man to be selected to represent the democrats….lo and behold – Hilary and Obama!!!!
Does it remind you of the Pharaoh of Egypt who persisted in making foolish decisions in spite of Moses’ plagues?
Bush tea will be pleasantly surprised if Obama wins – I don’t credit American voters with the maturity to make such a decision…
sarahpalin // September 24, 2008 at 9:20 AM
In any other country losing 2 wars, arranging $700 bail-outs for rich crooks, seeing job losses everywhere, and with hundreds of thousands of still-working families deep in credit card debt and awaiting foreclosure the “opposition” candidate would be so sure to be elected they’d cancel the election to save the expense.
“If Barack Obama were white he’d be leading by 17 points,” said an analyst on CNN recently.
He was being diplomatic. To McCain.
Anon // September 24, 2008 at 9:33 AM
BT
I must agree with you
McCain and Palin are excellently suited to lead the USA….. the blind leading the blind.
When wanna yankees voted for Bush over Gore it was clear to me that all hope had gone.
When Bush was reelected based on his ‘war on terror’, it could only have been downhill from there….
I dont think Obama will win the elections
America’s days as a super power are over…………….going ………………….going gone!
Over to the EU (the ten toes of Daniel’s vision) the revised Roman Empire.
Then the Antichrist.
Everything is coming to a head
I love it!
W
Duppy Lizard // September 24, 2008 at 9:35 AM
The black population of the U.S. is less than 15%, the so called white population of Barbados is somewhere between 5-10%. Could there ever be a white Prime Minister of Barbados? Not in your wildest dreams – so when we talk about maturity I think the Americans have shown more maturity compared to the Barbadian political landscape. Mr. Obama’s nomination is due because of educated white people.
David // September 24, 2008 at 9:45 AM
@Duppy Lizard
It is fine to use statistics but better to get accurate reading.
In Barbados the better part of the White population participate in activities which isolate them from the Black population. We are sure that you may agree that it is not the same in the USA.
ru4real // September 24, 2008 at 10:27 AM
The black population of the U.S. is less than 15%, the so called white population of Barbados is somewhere between 5-10%. Could there ever be a white Prime Minister of Barbados?
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Isnt the Present PM the same 50% white as Obama?
Zauditu // September 24, 2008 at 10:56 AM
PM Thompson looks more white to me than some people that say they are white.
Zauditu // September 24, 2008 at 10:59 AM
Duppy, the black population of America is more like 51%, for there are a lot of American white people that have black in them. I heard Oprah say it and BET had a documentary that said so too.
Duppy Lizard // September 24, 2008 at 11:03 AM
David – I agree that there is a relutance of a majority of whites in Barbados to participate in society – they live, work and play in isolation. However, this is true about any minority – go to any north american city and you will find enclaves based on ethnicity, religion or nationality. Barbados I agree is rather unique though – but who is to blame? Should we blame the blacks for hostility levelled at whites? Should we blame the whites for retreating into their own shell? Actually, governments have been instrumental in enhancing this division of races. Rather than promoting diversity they encourage exclusivity – which becomes a breeding ground for racism.
For ru4real – Yes our present PM has a white mother and a black father but as far as I’ve heard he considers himself a black man. And when have you ever seen or heard Mr. Obama referred to anything but a black man? – despite the fact that he too is of mixed race.
Duppy Lizard // September 24, 2008 at 11:11 AM
Zauditu – We all come out of Africa, so somewhere along the way we is all black. But does it really really matter what our complexion is?
By the way, don’t believe everything you hear on Oprah – that is one rich woman who has her own agenda.
Adrian Hinds // September 24, 2008 at 11:21 AM
Obama got where is as a result of race. He may lose this election base on his ideological positions.
His support 90+% amongst blacks is base on race.
His supports amongst liberal whites is due to a number of situtions not limited to the following:
….the willingness to use his winning the presidency to shut up Al and Jessie or to at least fight back when accuse of being racist, Yes race again on the White side of things. :)
….Because he is a fellow socialist/communist who hates America’s capitalist economy.
….Because progressive liberal ideals like to demonstrate progress by being bold in participating in watershed events. It’s new, nuance and history making.
…..Because diehard Democrats as does diehard Republicans will support the party’s nominee.
Adrian Hinds // September 24, 2008 at 11:32 AM
David wait what is racist in or about the Youtube clip????????? Just like i continue to have difficulty in seeing the Homophobic intent on your part as attributed to you by Others when you air your views on Homosexaulity in Barbados, I am equally at a lost to find the racist remark or intent with or within this youtube video clip.
What is very similar is the defence approach of homosexuality defenders and the Obamanites.
art // September 24, 2008 at 12:24 PM
Wait- back up just a bit for a minute-
Don’t look at Obama’s minority status. I’m told he is a Harvard Graduaute, the best debator in his class, held positions of leadership within that esteemed institution. Then he entered politics, and has done tremendously well. Why wouldn’t he?
The question is whether he is qualified or not, and whether he can be the best one to do a job when comnpared to his rival.
Should one not focus on what he has to offer, rather than on the external pigmentation?
Adrian Hinds // September 24, 2008 at 12:54 PM
art // September 24, 2008 at 12:24 pm
Wait- back up just a bit for a minute-
Don’t look at Obama’s minority status. I’m told he is a Harvard Graduaute, the best debator in his class, held positions of leadership within that esteemed institution. Then he entered politics, and has done tremendously well. Why wouldn’t he?
The question is whether he is qualified or not, and whether he can be the best one to do a job when comnpared to his rival.
Should one not focus on what he has to offer, rather than on the external pigmentation?
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Electioneering politics dictate that his pigmentation be exploited. If they did not do so, Barack could not have gotten the kind of support he has amongst blacks, and he would not have had support from those Liberal whites who see his Presidentcy as a chance to silence the Al Sharpten and Jessie Jackson of America, and to demonstrate to all that diversity, multiculturisme etc works. :) Race is a big part of Barack success thus far. It cannot be denied.
David // September 24, 2008 at 12:57 PM
@Adrian
Why would FOX launch these attacks on Obama by using slurs about his name and Muslim association unless it was racially motivated.
On your last point Obama dis not garner the kind of support among blacks until he demonstrated he could win in White states.
Adrian Hinds // September 24, 2008 at 1:41 PM
David // September 24, 2008 at 12:57 pm
@Adrian
Why would FOX launch these attacks on Obama by using slurs about his name and Muslim association unless it was racially motivated.
On your last point Obama dis not garner the kind of support among blacks until he demonstrated he could win in White states.
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I cannot entertain your question of Fox possible intentions, until you define “ATTACK” and “slur”, and if you are apt to remember what is so “racist” about or in that video clip.
David please don’t confuse the Black congressional causus lack of support for Barack at the time as indicative of a lack of support amongst black voters. From the very outset Blacks where bucking the opinions of all Black Leaders who where majority in favour of Hillary Clinton.
anonymous // September 24, 2008 at 1:43 PM
There are genuine liberal whites in 70% white USA. There are none in 90% black Barbados. A sizeable minority of American whites are moving away from the traditional culture wars of race in America. They are embracing all ethinicities based on character and content not skin colour.
Cow Williams operates in a near black environment with tens of companies and subsidiaries and not a single one of his directors is black. Cow more than anyone except his sibling Bizzy represents white thought in Barbados. White thought in Barbados is homogenous, regressive and backward.
A sizeable pool of American whites especially young people have thrown race out the window and are dealing with Obama on merit alone. More power to them . Barbados whites should take a cue from them. I expect hell to freeze over before that happens.
I badly want Obama to win but in the still most racist country in the world (despite significant body of liberals) I would not be surprised if he loses simply because he is black.
Adrian Hinds // September 24, 2008 at 2:06 PM
How can the major reason for him losing be the colour of his skin when todate his successes are the result of it?
….I wonder, what measurements you have used to define America as the most racist country in the world!
…..It can’t be wealth amongst Blacks
…..It can’t be the number of elected officials
…..It can’t be race specific legislation like Affirmative action
…..It can’t be the number academics, leaders in their chosen fields,
…..It can’t be judges or Ministers of government
…..Which political party of a major European country has voted for and nominated a black person to be their candidate for the leadership position of that country?
…..Which Socialist European Country is on the verge of electing a Black resident to their leader?
…really how do you define “most racist”? can you honestly do so?
Adrian Hinds // September 24, 2008 at 2:12 PM
An Anon once said:
I badly want Obama to win but in the still most racist country in the world (despite significant body of liberals) I would not be surprised if he loses simply because he is black.
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If America is still the most racist country in the world and you are convince of this, what informs your hope of a Obama win. Might be a case of “bad” thinking in trute. :)
PiedPiper // September 24, 2008 at 2:38 PM
I like Barack Obama’s ethics, morals and his vision for America and it could be that many white Americans would vote for him regardless of colour but it is his lack of experience that will cause some of them not to. For me, whatever I may have thought about McCain initially has been (pardon the pun) coloured by his choice of running mate. Sarah Palin stands for everything that is wrong with the direction that the U.S. is headed in. She is a holy roller creationist, anti-choice on the abortion issue and hasn’t done a very good job raising her own kids and even more so than Obama, doesn’t have the experience to be even remotely considered for the position of VP. McCains’s choice as her for a running mate was a cheap tactic to get the female vote. It is a shame really that Hillary Clinton and Obama could not have settled their differences because as abrasive as Hillary can be she has a welath of experience (both good and bad) that would have made her a good advisor to Obama. Obama has the best of intentions and has a clear vision of what is wrong with America today but he needs someone who is familiar with how to achive that goal as well as pull in the female vote.
Adrian Hinds // September 24, 2008 at 3:02 PM
A reasoned and dispassionate contribution.
I continue to find fault with this call for experience, but appreciate that it is now entrenched in the way that Americans now view their candidates for President . What Americans have traditioanally taken as experience is a candidates role as a governor, this is informed by the historical fact that only two sitting senetors have ever transition into the whitehouse, and we are now set to confirm the third. Given these facts, the only Govenor of the four answers the experience question that Americans have tradionally used to vet POTUS candidates —- but that governor is not running for the office of POTUS, will not be voted on and should not be vetted on experience. I which to take experience out of the argument, but also understand, that to do so would immediately disqualify Barack. :) Let me interject here that i still believe that the winning ticket for the Democrats and so by a very large margin would have been a Hillary/Obama ticket, but the socialist/communist wing of the Democratic party would have none of it. A Obama/Hillary ticket could have still done the trick (win), but was an impossible match given the ego’s and intentions of the two persons, and their backers.
Sarah Palin was an electioneering choice plain and simple, but i would add a very effective one. I do not place any real importance on a VP pick beyond their ability to bring counties to the winners table, to be an attack dog for the POTUS nominee, in essence to get the POTUS nominee elected, beyond that the POTUS is the man and VP can only be effective if the President allows him to be.
…..Everybody living in Socialist countries knows whats best for Americans except Americans themselves and they get upset when Americans don’t give a hoot what they say. :)
Adrian Hinds // September 24, 2008 at 3:18 PM
The Hillary question. I think Hillary would have won the White House for the Democrats very easily. I know she would have gotten my vote. After she spoke in Madison wisconsin and without a teleprompter i might add :) I was sold. Of the three, John McCain, Barack, and Hillary, i would have voted for Her hands down. I never concidered Barack.
….As long as Al Sharpton, and Louis Farakhan are alive Barack can never give a good enough speech for me to vote for him. :) uh trying my hand at liberal opinions, can you tell?
I want someone to tell me how much has John McCain changed from the man that was actively pursued to be John Kerry’s running mate on a democratic ticket just four years ago, How much has he change from actively thinking of picking Joe Lieberman to be his running mate this very year. The same Joe Lieberman who was a VP choice on Democratic ticket in the past. How much has he changed?
PiedPiper // September 24, 2008 at 3:25 PM
Adrian: I don’t profess to know what is best for Americans but what is best for the world at large. Whatever the election, by default, will affect the rest of the world. What is irking most Canadians at the moment is how our current PM ( plastic haired, dead eyed Harper) is how he has decreased the degree of seperation that Canada traditionally has had with the U.S. We have an election coming up too (Oct. 14) and his cow towing to the current U.S. aministration has quite a few Canadians concerned.
Historically, Canada has maintained a co-operative relationship with the U.S. but at the same time has refused to be influenced by the agenda of the U.S. administration ( well, with the exception of the Avro Arrow scandal).
Regardless, this whole issue is bigger than what Canadians think and, in fact, encompasses most of what Europe thinks as well. The Bush administration has done irrepairable harm to the profile of America on the world stage and most of the world is holding it’s breath in anticipation of a huge change in the country’s direction.
Adrian Hinds // September 24, 2008 at 3:59 PM
I am surprise that Harper thinks their is any lasting utility in closer ties with America against the wishes of Canadians. I believe American foreign policy doesn’t care to much what Canada does, and that the historic relationship between the two countries has been more in favour of Canada and is probably the on only reason that Canada is a G8 country, it is a G8 country right?. Without trade access to the American Market Canada’s economy would be about the size of that of Cuba. So Americans don’t pay much attention to the socialist games Canadians like to play.
This whole idea about American profile overseas is an overblown lie of mammoth proportions. The truth has always been that any number of countries wish that they were where they periceived America to be in terms of power. Many have over the years percieved this power to be derived from size, and went about madly incorporating other sovereign countrys into a larger state, others thought they could “trick “others into forming unions with them at the top so that they could project rival power. I don’t care any much for this peceived opinion of good standing. I have never begged anyone to like me, espescially when it matters not to me. The change this country needs and that i see is a retake of our law making body from the socialist lifers in there. They are the sole cause of this financial mess.
The scout // September 24, 2008 at 4:06 PM
John McCain is trying to pull another trick out of his bag. He is asking for a time-out. Between Monday and Wednesday he has change his mind at lease three times. Now that he finds he is trailing far behind and the degayes would obviously push him further, he’s trying to appear patriotic. I don’t see why the debates would have a impact on the troubles in Washington
PiedPiper // September 24, 2008 at 4:18 PM
Adrian: What you fail to see is that Canada likes being unimportant and innocuous to the U. S. We have an immense bounty of natural resources that are the enevy of many nations and we shall quietly go about our business without benefit of aggression that the U.S. is so well known for :)
Adrian Hinds // September 24, 2008 at 4:19 PM
The scout // September 24, 2008 at 4:06 pm
John McCain is trying to pull another trick out of his bag. He is asking for a time-out. Between Monday and Wednesday he has change his mind at lease three times. Now that he finds he is trailing far behind and the degayes would obviously push him further, he’s trying to appear patriotic. I don’t see why the debates would have a impact on the troubles in Washington
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Ha ha ha ha ha ha I just love your perspective on things. :)
I would have thought that the debates would have help McCain since it is said the he is at his best in these types of settings whereas Barack cannot speak without a teleprompter. All yesterday a lot of Americans where wondering why these two sitting senators were not in Washingtion dealing with this issue. That McCain got a jump on Obama may in of it self help him in the polls. But this is a continuation of the Maverick sperit in McCain, he is known for doing the unkown. I think the democrats were once again caught flat footed.
Your use of the word “Trick” says alot about your unspoken worries about this move. :) I just love politics. :)
Adrian Hinds // September 24, 2008 at 4:22 PM
@ PiedPiper
Just as well Americans really don’t care for the fickle like dislike of Europeans and Canadians.
The scout // September 24, 2008 at 4:26 PM
Adrian you obviously don’t follow the american news, McCain today has lose so much ground that even some of his safe states are moving swiftly to Obama. The man McCain is on the ropes and asking/begging for a time-out. Maybe Obama should give him one before he gets charged for murder. That old man can’t take much more. He should realise, if he can’t take the heat, he should stay out of the kitchen.
Adrian Hinds // September 24, 2008 at 4:31 PM
The scout // September 24, 2008 at 4:26 pm
Adrian you obviously don’t follow the american news,
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ha ha ha ha ha ha ha And this is why you are so confused.
PiedPiper // September 24, 2008 at 4:32 PM
……and you see Adrian, that is the reason that Americans are so disliked…..their unshakable belief that they do not need the “world community”. Very soon, if not right now, the U.S. will be looking at and begging for Canadian natural resources (OIL) and then we will see if America has no need for the rest of the world. Every dog has it’s day :)
Adrian Hinds // September 24, 2008 at 4:38 PM
PiedPiper // September 24, 2008 at 4:32 pm
……and you see Adrian, that is the reason that Americans are so disliked…..their unshakable belief that they do not need the “world community”. Very soon, if not right now, the U.S. will be looking at and begging for Canadian natural resources (OIL) and then we will see if America has no need for the rest of the world. Every dog has it’s day :)
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….begging nice choice of words. I believe right now that Canada is the largest supplier of oil to the US. I would bet that Canada has the resources to withhold sale of Oil to America, right?, but not only oil, Alaska is or has been working on a deal to have Canadian natural gas delivered. But you see this points back to why we must rescue ourselves from the socialist in our congress who could very well be canadians or europeans as they are certainly acting this way. If we are allowed to drill in Alaska, in our coastal waters we probably would not need your oil, then what would do? The American economy continues to be the place to make money for all of the world their dislike is not genuine.
The scout // September 24, 2008 at 4:45 PM
Just like the other superpower USSR crumbled, America is on the verge of doing the same, thanks to Bush, Chaney, McCain, the Republicans and their money hounds that this group create. I hope they would all be brought to justice. Poor [eople losing their homes ans McCain is going to say that giving one of his advisors a US $ 45M severence was justifiable and she was CEO of one of the bailed out companies.
Sargeant // September 24, 2008 at 4:46 PM
Adrian Hinds
Without trade access to the American Market Canada’s economy would be about the size of that of Cuba.
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There he goes again making asinine statements without any foundation. Trade is a two way street did the US sign NAFTA because they liked Canada? Isn’t Canada the USA largest trading partner? Larger than Japan or China and do you know that the USA imports more oil from Canada than from any Middle Eastern country? What about US exports coming north over the border? It’s a pity you have access to a computer to spout so much nonsense which some people may believe because they don’t know any better.
It seems residence in the States makes one jingoistic to the extent that facts don’t matter.
The scout // September 24, 2008 at 4:47 PM
Why I’m so concerned with American politics and the situation now in particular is because we in the caribbean will be hit by a political storm surge.
PiedPiper // September 24, 2008 at 4:47 PM
Tell that to all the people who lost their homes in the mortgage scam, see if they agree with you.. I suppose that is why the Bank of America has to bail out the crash/collapse/bankruptcy of Lehmans, Merrill Lynch and AIG. Yes, you are right, the American economy is booming…..trillions in deficit. The only people who make money off the American economy are those who already have more money than they could spend in their and their heirs lifetimes and off the backs of the poor. When you consider that most of those who lost their homes in the mortgage scam are black and poor, you surprise me Adrian.
The scout // September 24, 2008 at 4:54 PM
If this was a soap opera, especially with Sarah in it, I would be just likeyou, supprting the devient ones but this is real and the actors are real and the negative image that America is protrayingare real. How can I support such?
Sargeant // September 24, 2008 at 5:14 PM
The Obama campaign reached out to McCain earlier today in an effort to put out a bipartisan statement on the financial crisis. McCain ,seeking to get an edge since all the recent polls saw him falling further and further behind spent all morning huddling with his aides and in to appear statesmanlike put out his own statement. This is all about “Country First” now that he is losing, but the Obama operatives made a rookie mistake Obama tries to get beyond “politics as usual” while McCain never misses an opportunity to get a political advantage, during one of his meetings prior to the conventions one of his supporters asked “how do we beat the bitch?” referring to Hillary Clinton, McCain’s response was to laugh, when one of Obama’s supporters made a crack about McCain’s alleged confession as a POW, Obama admonished him and paid homage to McCain’s service to his country. McCain also seized on Obama’s comments about “lipstick on a Pig” and said that he was referring to Sarah Palin when McCain had made the same statement more than ten times.
Obama should learn that in politics “Nice Guys finish last”.
Deng Xiaping // September 24, 2008 at 5:31 PM
Who cares who wins the White House? Whoever it is they will probably still try to screw us (i.e non-americans). Ironically, Barbados may get a marginally better deal with the Republicans (McCain) but Obama will make us feel good. Can anyone tell me what plans (policy positions) Caricom or Barbados has vis a vis future relations with the USA? Are we counting on ethnic solidarity re Obama?
David // September 24, 2008 at 6:10 PM
Seems to be a lot of emotional statements flying back and forth. Canada is a significant trading partner with the USA even if it may not think so the numbers say so. Adrian even if the USA were to start drilling for oil tonight, the production cycle will take anywhere from 10 to 15 years to gush. In the medium term Canada is therefore an important partner. Don’t forget the geo-politics as well. China is after Canada to supply them with oil. Piedpiper should be able to speak to this in more detail.
The other point about Mccain getting the jump on Obama is false. The polls show that while McClain has the lead in foreign affairs matters, Obama turns the table when it comes to how Americans perceive the person best suited to manage a crisis economy and he has now regain the overall lead in the polls. The problem for him will be the independents/undecided voters and how he performs in the debates and whether white America will vote stupid.
Also you forgot to mention that the crisis on Wall Street is still unravelling, it would be stupid for Obama to speak to the issue in absolutes and we have Citigroup collapse next week. Obama has been understandably cautious in this matter. The Republicans have been asked to submit a proposal and the democrats are suppose to work in a bipartisan way at the level of congress/senate. If this is the case why would Obama chose to be aggressive in the public space at this time?
ru4real // September 24, 2008 at 8:35 PM
For ru4real – Yes our present PM has a white mother and a black father but as far as I’ve heard he considers himself a black man. And when have you ever seen or heard Mr. Obama referred to anything but a black man? – despite the fact that he too is of mixed race.
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But he owes his up bringing and education – his formative years to his maternal white grandparents.
Give credit where its due.
Adrian Hinds // September 25, 2008 at 12:04 AM
Ha ha ha ha Sargeant as you continue on your angry road to prove me wrong at all cost, you are to my mind making it very easy for me to dismiss you. I take it you did not read beyond the comment you have highlighted. ;)
I will not seek to defend the comment that“Without trade access to the American Market Canada’s economy would be about the size of that of Cuba” it was overly dismissive, but the facts are that while Canada is the largest single trading partner of the US, trade with Canada represented only about 18.5% of U.S. total trade in 2006 with Canada purchasing 22.2% of U.S. exports and supplying 16.4% of total U.S. imports last year. While Canada is an important trading partner for the U.S. the U.S. is the dominant trade partner for Canada. The United States supplied 65% of Canada’s imports of goods in 2006, and purchased 79% of Canada’s merchandise exports. Imports and exports statistics every year since 1985 until present shows the enormous benefit to Canada trading with the US has been.
Trade is a dominant feature of the Canadian economy. While in the U.S. the value of trade as a percentage of GDP was about 21.8% in 2006, the comparable figure for Canada was nearly 60% . Canada’s goods exports represent 31.9% of Canadian GDP and exports to the U.S. alone represents 26.9% of Canadian GDP. A further 18.2% of Canadian GDP is used to purchase U.S. goods.
So you see PiedPiper although the reality is that trade between the US and Canada is large, so integrated and unlikely to change that in Hindsight your PM’s position re. the U.S. maybe the right thing and Canadians objection to it is just your socialist inclination to want to stuff it to the big bad Satan to your south. also in hindsight with figures like the ones above it seems like my overly dismissive comment would not’t be so wrong.
….But PP if most Canadians are of the same opinions of the US as you are, why do so many of them settle so close to the US border? :0 did you read the anti Sarah Palin comments of that ugly CBC columnist name Heather, uh can’t remember her last name?
David // September 25, 2008 at 12:08 AM
The plot thickens in Washington. McCain bails from the campaign on the pretense that he needs to focus on the bill currently before Senate on the bail-out.
HE ASKED OBAMA TO JOIN HIM!
Americans and many investors around the world would be hoping that as in 1988 and 2003 when there was massive withdrawals of equity from the market which bounced back with bullish markets the year after will repeat itself.
Interesting times ahead and the whole world is starting to feel the chills. Another strike against GWB before he goes. He must go down as the worst President in history.
Adrian Hinds // September 25, 2008 at 12:15 AM
David // September 24, 2008 at 6:10 pm
Adrian even if the USA were to start drilling for oil tonight, the production cycle will take anywhere from 10 to 15 years to gush. In the medium term Canada is therefore an important partner. Don’t forget the geo-politics as well. China is after Canada to supply them with oil. Piedpiper should be able to speak to this in more detail.
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Man you would believe anything the bias news media in the US would say. That is the line of the do little democratic control congress, when the truth is that they believe Americans should pay more for gas. Ask yourself this if it is true that a simple reduction in demand for oil products due to high price led to a reduction in the cost for a barrel of oil almost overnight , as does a decrease in crude oil production also lead to higher cost per barrel overnight, how do you equate this to 10-15 year apology for not drilling? Did it take 10-15 years after oil was dicovered at wooburne St. Phillip to get it to market? schhuuupppssse.
…Obama says he initiated the call, McCain says he initiate the call to suspend campaigning and returned to Washington. Obama thinks it is better to still debate on friday McCain says no. I give the upper hand to Obama, he is right where the American people are on the two of them should be doing right now. He still can’t get my vote. :)
Adrian Hinds // September 25, 2008 at 12:18 AM
Interesting times ahead and the whole world is starting to feel the chills. Another strike against GWB before he goes. He must go down as the worst President in history.
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That means he will be competing for Jimmy Carter spot? Oh well thats what you get for being the biggest social spender of all presidents. :0
Adrian Hinds // September 25, 2008 at 12:32 AM
PiedPiper // September 24, 2008 at 4:47 pm
Tell that to all the people who lost their homes in the mortgage scam, see if they agree with you.. I suppose that is why the Bank of America has to bail out the crash/collapse/bankruptcy of Lehmans, Merrill Lynch and AIG. Yes, you are right, the American economy is booming…..trillions in deficit. The only people who make money off the American economy are those who already have more money than they could spend in their and their heirs lifetimes and off the backs of the poor. When you consider that most of those who lost their homes in the mortgage scam are black and poor, you surprise me Adrian.
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I have already berated the republicans for attempting to lay blame solely at the feet of low income first home buyes of which African Americans are a sizeable portion. In 2004 Bush, and all the right wing talk radio and tv sho host celebrated the fact that more African Americans got to own their first home during Bush first term that at any other time in history. Now that it has turned out that the majority of those mortgages where subprime loans made to people who could not afford them, they are now casting blame solely on the borrows. The facts are that most of these people had no clue what they were getting themselves into, many of them have never gotten a loan from anybody before, and naievly viewed these loan offers as a cause to celebrate. I once tried to talk a friend who worked at the Home depot for 12 dollars an hour out of taking a loan for 300k, they stongly believe that the tenant rent and the rising value of real estate would see them through. I told him it is very foolish to start out so highly leverage. So there is a lot of blame to go around. These loans should never have been made to persons who could not repay, and it was not greed alone that cause lenders to lend.
Anonymous // September 25, 2008 at 4:40 AM
Adrian’s last post made me think of an incident a few years back where hot and sweaty an East Indian woman from Guyana now doing real estate in Amercia wanted me to trade in my little shack for a 300,000 US dollar house. I said, I could not afford it, plus I was planning to return to Guyana in a few years. She kept calling me and telling me yes, yiuc an afford it thatI finally had to scream at her and she never called me back. But if I had done what she wanted me to do I would have been in one big mess. I lost money on my 401K, money that I should have saved at Republic Bank Guyana, but was told by Guyanese to do the 401 K and when I retire I will have this money to go home with, but it does seem like it will happen. I am voting for Seantor Obama, because he is my race, but because also he is the only one capable of setting the US straight. Mc Cain is too old and Sarah Palin well as a Seventh Day Adventist I value all life human and animal, unlike Sarah Palin whom I saw killing a moose, YUK, ugh how awful. Anyway I am praying for Seantor Obama, and if he looses I think I will sell out and return to Guyana.
Voter // September 25, 2008 at 6:19 AM
It looks like the rest of the world wants Obama, vote to get Barbados on the map,
http://www.economist.com/vote2008/?a=true&cid=154&v=true
Rumplestilskin // September 25, 2008 at 6:44 AM
The Republicans and McCain now know that they are going to lose.
Hence, McCains dodging tactic from the debate using the crisis as an excuse.
What the heck can he do about the crisis, in Washington.
Give me a break.
They are going to lose, Palin was a serious error.
And they know it.
David // September 25, 2008 at 6:56 AM
@Rumplestilskin
It probably had more to do with the financial crisis and attention switched by Americans from foreign affairs his perceived strength.
Adrian Hinds // September 25, 2008 at 9:04 AM
Rumplestilskin // September 25, 2008 at 6:44 am
The Republicans and McCain now know that they are going to lose.
Hence, McCains dodging tactic from the debate using the crisis as an excuse.
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calling for debates to be suspended on the day that polls show he is losing to Obama by some large margins, certainly make McCain looks like he is running, and that can hurt him, …But McCain never gives much thought to polls or the views of his party. I prefer to see his approach as vintage McCain.
….But would John McCain truly be running from debating teleprompter Barack? I doubt it. We all know who did not want to do Town hall meeting debates. :)
David // September 25, 2008 at 9:15 AM
Whatever our opinions on who is the better man/party to manage the affairs of the USA for the next four years we have to agree one thing, the current financial crisis is a game changer.
Hopi // September 25, 2008 at 9:25 AM
ADRIAN beHINDS…..
Whenever I see a posting from you, I’m constantly reminded of a piece of wisdom from deceased S.A activist Stephen Beeko, “there’s no tool more effective in the hands of the oppressor than the mind of the oppressed.” Clearly the shackles were removed from your ankles and wrist and placed around your -rain.
Adrian Hinds // September 25, 2008 at 10:14 AM
Hopi // September 25, 2008 at 9:25 am
ADRIAN beHINDS…..
Whenever I see a posting from you, I’m constantly reminded of a piece of wisdom from deceased S.A activist Stephen Beeko, “there’s no tool more effective in the hands of the oppressor than the mind of the oppressed.” Clearly the shackles were removed from your ankles and wrist and placed around your -rain.
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Adrian ( Behinds) ha ha ha ha ha you are so funny and clever, you took the b from the word Brains and added it to my last name. Levity is a good thing even when i am the butt of the joke. So you know i expect no less when debating liberals, their anger and reliance on personal attacks in response to the constant obliteration of their points and positions, is a common occurrence.
Are you a Seventh day Adventist? Why are you “constantly reminded of someone else” when viewing my postings? Is this an attempt to filter my comments through your beliefs? :)
Adrian Hinds // September 25, 2008 at 11:26 AM
Yet another article that i like. :)Remember what i have been saying about American’s views on Senators?
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“A Presidential McCain
McCain’s bold move could reframe the election–and win it.
by William Kristol
09/25/2008 12:00:00 AM
THERE’S A REASON voters in presidential races tend to shy away from electing senators. The primary skills of a legislator–talking, compromising, “representing”–are different from those of an executive–deciding, choosing, “executing.” There are individuals who have the ability both to deliberate patiently and act energetically–but it’s a rare combination. The best legislators tend not to be great executives, and vice-versa.
This year, for the first time in U.S. history, both major party nominees for president are sitting senators. The winner may be the one who can convince some portion of the electorate that he’s less “senatorial,” and more “presidential,” than the other.
That’s why McCain’s action Wednesday–announcing he would come back to Washington to try to broker a deal to save our financial system–could prove so important. The rescue package that was so poorly crafted and defended by the Bush administration seemed to be sliding toward defeat. The presidential candidates were on the sidelines, carping and opining and commenting. But one of them, John McCain, intervened suddenly and boldly, taking a risk in order to change the situation, and to rearrange the landscape.
Of course his motives were partly election-related. But “the interest of the man must be connected with the constitutional rights of the place.” If candidate McCain, for whatever mixed motives, ends up acting in a way that results in a deal that is viewed as better than the original proposal, and that seems to stabilize the markets and avert a meltdown–he’ll benefit politically, and he deserves to. For McCain will have acted presidentially in the campaign–which some voters, quite reasonably, will think speaks to his qualifications to be president.
As for the question of Friday night’s debate, which some in the media seem to think more important than saving the financial system–if the negotiations are still going on in D.C., McCain should offer to send Palin to debate Obama! Or he can take a break from the meetings, fly down at the last minute himself, and turn a boring foreign policy debate, in which he and Obama would repeat well-rehearsed arguments, into a discussion about leadership and decisiveness. And if the negotiations are clearly on a path to success, then McCain can say he can now afford to leave D.C., fly down, and the debate would become a victory lap for McCain.
So the action of these few days becomes more important than the talk of that hour and a half Friday night. One could even say the contrast between the two men in action becomes the true debate over who should be president. The media, being talkers and debaters, love debates, overestimate their importance, and are underestimating the possible effect of McCain’s dramatic action. In the debate itself, McCain should mock the media’s greater concern for gabbing than solving our economic problems, and should associate Obama with such a talk-heavy media-type approach to politics. If the race is between an energetic executive and an indecisive talker, the energetic executive should win.
William Kristol is editor of THE WEEKLY STANDARD.
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ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Over to you Hopi and Sargeant!
Hopi // September 25, 2008 at 11:38 AM
Adrian Hinds my dearest…..
I am neither liberal, progressive, right, left, center,up nor down. Neither am I religious/them. I AM ME looking to transcend this fake physical reality-prison that I chose not to be enclosed in. But it is difficult. I see no oblieration of points and position on your part. There’s no need for me to “filter your comments through my beliefs” since I have no beliefs. I try to live by absolutes, “you should know and not believe” fr bro Bob. While you’re at the tube just pull up Bob Marley’s (one of the greatest prophets of our time..hence his eradication) “Top Ranking & Babylon System” and just listen and analyse what’s taking place in our fake world today and maybe you can get some insight. Peace bro.
Hopi // September 25, 2008 at 12:00 PM
Seems like mutant-McCain has something to hide. Does’nt this prove to you who and what really holds and controls his interest? Your house is on fire and your two children are in imminent danger, which one will you save or will you try to save both while your at it? By the way the author of this bias piece is nothing but a slimy war-mongering pimp.
Adrian Hinds // September 25, 2008 at 12:17 PM
Hopi // September 25, 2008 at 11:38 am
Adrian Hinds my dearest…..
I am neither liberal, progressive, right, left, center,up nor down. Neither am I religious/them. I AM ME looking to transcend this fake physical reality-prison that I chose not to be enclosed in. But it is difficult. I see no oblieration of points and position on your part. There’s no need for me to “filter your comments through my beliefs” since I have no beliefs. I try to live by absolutes, “you should know and not believe” fr bro Bob. While you’re at the tube just pull up Bob Marley’s (one of the greatest prophets of our time..hence his eradication) “Top Ranking & Babylon System” and just listen and analyse what’s taking place in our fake world today and maybe you can get some insight. Peace bro.
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so wait Hopi you took insight from Bob Marley? Did Bob take his own advise? Did he know and not believe that inhaling tetrahydorchloride on a sustain bases would not be good for him?
Emancipate yourself from mental slavery, yet he seemed inslaved by his addiction to marijuana. :)
There’s a natural mystic blowing thru de air.
If you listen carefully now you will hear.
…..The mystic was the exhaled smoke from a large spiff. :)
The sweet music of a “high” mind.
Sargeant // September 25, 2008 at 2:55 PM
Adrian Hinds:
You rely on a right winger like William Kristol to make the argument for John McCain’s actions. Let me refer you to George Will’s Sept.23rd, column in the Washington Post. Will is not known for liberal views but in an article titled “McCain loses his Head”, he states:
Under the pressure of the financial crisis, one presidential candidate is behaving like a flustered rookie playing in a league too high. It is not Barack Obama.
And he ends the column:
Conservatives who insist that electing McCain is crucial usually start, and increasingly end, by saying he would make excellent judicial selections. But the more one sees of his impulsive, intensely personal reactions to people and events, the less confidence one has that he would select judges by calm reflection and clear principles, having neither patience nor aptitude for either.
It is arguable that, because of his inexperience, Obama is not ready for the presidency. It is arguable that McCain, because of his boiling moralism and bottomless reservoir of certitudes, is not suited to the presidency. Unreadiness can be corrected, although perhaps at great cost, by experience. Can a dismaying temperament be fixed?
Adrian Hinds // September 25, 2008 at 3:12 PM
….i find that here of late i am sneezing quite a bit. :) :)
I have no problem with John McCain so called anger problem, every now and then we need to get pissed off about something or the other. :) :) anyway to answer your question, can learnt behaviours be unlearnt? or is it that once you are a “smoker” you can never quit? :)
I don’t really care that much about supreme court nominees anymore, as republican Presidents have nominated several of the current liberal Supreme court justices. What i am most taken up with is the break up the Lifers institution that our House of representatives has become, and i think the Mavarick John McCain is best suited to tour the country during his tenure as president, using this bully pulpit to focus Americans into making these congressional bumbs accountable to us. Barack dosen’t convince that he is interested in doing that.
Adrian Hinds // September 25, 2008 at 3:30 PM
Johnson to lead Obama briefing
Former Fannie Mae chairman Jim Johnson was dumped from Obama’s vice presidential search team, but he’s still playing a behind-the-scenes role on the campaign.
Former Senator Tom Daschle, a top Obama backer, emailed a select list this afternoon that he and Johnson would be leading a briefing intended largely for Clinton’s campaign brain trust next month.
“Jim Johnson and I have scheduled another informal breakfast discussion and update on the campaign early next month,” he wrote to a list including Senator John Kerry, James Carville, and Richard Holbrooke, as well as Clinton’s former top campaign aides, including Howard Wolfson, Geoff Garin, and Harold Ickes.
Johnson’s involvement comes at a moment when political association with the failed mortgage giants is particularly toxic. He was already the subject of a McCain ad attacking Obama.
Ben Smith.
Sargeant // September 25, 2008 at 4:45 PM
Adrian Hinds:
• Johnson to lead Obama briefing
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How much was McCain’s manager Rick Davis being paid by Fannie Mae again?
The payments continued until August $15000.00 per month to lobby McCain
keeskennis // September 25, 2008 at 5:07 PM
Sargeant // September 25, 2008 at 4:45 pm
Show me any link besides Kos/Huffington and I will lick you white.
F*ckin kids
Adrian Hinds // September 25, 2008 at 5:12 PM
Sargeant // September 25, 2008 at 4:45 pm
Adrian Hinds:
• Johnson to lead Obama briefing
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How much was McCain’s manager Rick Davis being paid by Fannie Mae again?
The payments continued until August $15000.00 per month to lobby McCain
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Like a spratt you are easily reeled in. If this is true, he should be fired. But Rick Davis says that a company not him recieves the money and that he had severed all ties with that company since 2006. Do you have proof to the contrary? If you do i am all for his firing. :)
Sargeant // September 25, 2008 at 5:26 PM
Adrian Hinds:
I refuse to get into a battle of wits with an unarmed man. He is named as a Director of the company until recently and maintained an equity position so he still gets a cut of the profits like Dick Cheney with Haliburton; these Old Boys know how to stuff their pockets. BTW I see you have quoted Ben Smith without attribution to the Journal where the snippet appeared (Politico).
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/24/us/politics/24davis.html?scp=2&sq=rick%20davis&st=cse
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/22/us/politics/22mccain.html?scp=3&sq=rick%20davis&st=cse
Adrian Hinds // September 25, 2008 at 5:37 PM
So it has gone from Rick Davis receiving 15,000.00 from Fannie Mae, to him being a director of a company that has an equity position in the company that received the 15,000.00
….When will Barack Obama be returning the enormous amount of contributions he recieved from Freddie mac and Fannie mae?
Sargeant // September 25, 2008 at 6:18 PM
Adrian Hinds:
I left this link off the previous post re Rick Davis and his lobbying ties. BTW do you understand an equity position in a corporation?
Where is your proof that Obama got campaign contributions from Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac? Put up or shut up.
http://www.newsweek.com/id/160713/output/printhttp://www.newsweek.com/id/160713/output/print
Adrian Hinds // September 25, 2008 at 6:21 PM
Come Sargeant, what is the problem with Rick Davis taking money from Fannie Mae? and is there a problem with anybody else taking money from fannie mae? shouldn’t they all be fired? ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
keeskennis // September 25, 2008 at 7:16 PM
http://purplepeoplevote.com/2008/09/17/obama-receives-big-money-from-fannie-mae-and-freddie-mac/
Top Recipients of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac
Campaign Contributions, 1989-2008
Name
Office
Party/State
Total
1. Dodd, Christopher J
S
D-CT
$133,900
2. Kerry, John
S
D-MA
$111,000
3. Obama, Barack
S
D-IL
$105,849
4. Clinton, Hillary
S
D-NY
$75,550
5. Kanjorski, Paul E
H
D-PA
$65,500
6. Bennett, Robert F
S
R-UT
$61,499
7. Johnson, Tim
S
D-SD
$61,000
8. Conrad, Kent
S
D-ND
$58,991
9. Davis, Tom
H
R-VA
$55,499
10. Bond, Christopher S ‘Kit’
S
R-MO
$55,400
Sargeant // September 25, 2008 at 6:18 pm
JUST STFU, you are embarrissing mankind.
GOOGLE YOU IDIOT
keeskennis // September 25, 2008 at 7:19 PM
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Fannie_Mae_Freddie_Mac_execs_now_offering_advice_to_Obama
For further education
Adrian Hinds // September 25, 2008 at 7:46 PM
ha ha ha ha now folks i am not, nor do I know this Keeskennis personna, …..but i am beginning to like dem real bad ha ha ha ha ha Sarge you were so easy to reel in, I gave up Rick Davis to Catch Obama and you fell for it, but this is usually the case when you preach with liberal talking points as your source. :)
Straight talk // September 25, 2008 at 7:53 PM
Adrian H ( & Keeskennis ) :
What kind of “democracy” are your forces defending around the world.
Invading small countries to preserve the right of large corporations to purchase the votes of representatives
to enact favourable laws?
Is this what the founding fathers with their constitution had in mind?… or are you now living the exact situation they were legislating against?
Seems to me from your above comments that money counts more than the public good.
Kind thoughts from abroad.
JC // September 25, 2008 at 7:55 PM
Adrian Hinds what is happening with McCain and Obama at the white house what are your views! I will be honest i am getting scared cause it seems as if every thing will CRASH! What are they doing up there? Please explain to me !
I am now becoming VERY interested in this election!
Adrian Hinds // September 25, 2008 at 8:09 PM
What kind of “democracy” are your forces defending around the world.
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What kind? European, South korean, Japanese democracies?????
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Invading small countries to preserve the right of large corporations to purchase the votes of representatives
to enact favourable laws?
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uh????
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Is this what the founding fathers with their constitution had in mind?… or are you now living the exact situation they were legislating against?
Seems to me from your above comments that money counts more than the public good.
Kind thoughts from abroad
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Some more detail would be helpful in gathering what you are arguing. ??????
Adrian Hinds // September 25, 2008 at 8:22 PM
JC // September 25, 2008 at 7:55 pm
Adrian Hinds what is happening with McCain and Obama at the white house what are your views! I will be honest i am getting scared cause it seems as if every thing will CRASH! What are they doing up there? Please explain to me !
I am now becoming VERY interested in this election!
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I haven’t a clue just yet i have not turn on the tv or check my usual info source to gather what is going on. All i know so far is that the Democrats rush to the airwaves to say that they have an agreement so as to stymie McCain momentum on returning to washington and then i hear a Republican saying that 5 economist tell he that this bailout is bad and as far as he is concern there is no bailout agreement. All i can tell you is that 70 % of Americans aint interest in footing nuh bill for nuh bailout. These same peoople that suppose to be rescuing we cause the problem in the first place. De average Americans already paying about 60-70 % of their money in fixed cost spread across mortgage, healthinsurance, taxes, education, and transportation, we aint got nuh more to give nuh body, and this 700 billion equals about 2500 from every man woman and child in America today. But I promise to check in and see wuh i could find out.
JC // September 25, 2008 at 8:36 PM
Thanks! What is there next best step! If this thing dont work; I know that a lot of people are watching I hope there is some agreement!
Do you think that in the end commonsense (what ever that means) will prevail!
I wonder what will happen! What is McCain’s vibe be honest Adrian does he have the testicular fotitude for thei BULLSHIT! that has already hit the fan!
I heard Fox quoting him as saying that this ’sucker’willl crash! Meaning the country what the hell is happening over there! Thanks for responding dI cant wait to hear what is going on! I going and run my children off of Boomerang!
JC // September 25, 2008 at 8:37 PM
When I said him that was an error I meant BUSH!
David // September 26, 2008 at 1:26 AM
It seems that all hell is breaking loose in Washington.
Adrian Hinds // September 26, 2008 at 9:46 AM
Democrat congress man Barney Frank lied: There was no deal
Democrat Senator Harry Reid lied: There was no deal
The Obama Campaign lied: There was no deal.
Liers all, they should all be tarred and feathered when they return to their consituencies
JC // September 26, 2008 at 10:33 AM
So AH what is the next step! Who will stop tell lies first!
This thing is getting crazier by the minute.
Adrian Hinds // September 26, 2008 at 10:53 AM
They are several alternative proposals that protect the Taxpayers, that are being concidered. The 700 billion dollars is way to much money.
…Buy why is this crazier for you?
Johnnie Too Bad // September 27, 2008 at 9:02 AM
Adrian, you do have some really strange views, the simple fact is that Obama will not win in November, the Bradley effect will see to that.
The fact that he is probably more educated than most if not all of the presidents to lead the country in the entire twentieth century does not matter. The simple fact is that white amerika will not permit it. Fox News and especially Shaun Hannity has been slagging off Obama ever since Iowa primary.
What nails the whole fascade for me is the fact that anybody who voted for Hillary Clinton could then agree to vote for McCain when they realise that the entire supreme court composition will change for years to come.
In Obama’s case, much as I would like him to win, I would take a hundred dollars from you that it ain’t happening in this world or the next.
When we talk about experience, since when sitting out the Vietnam war in a Hanoi Hilton qualifies you for high office? If Obama has no executive experience, just how much has McCain got. It reminds me of the classic race get out. We can’t employ you because you do not have the experience or qualifications, when you return with those two components, we can’t hire you because white folks wont take too kindly to a black manager and on and on it goes. What worries me is the black folks in the USA, they vote en masse for the Dem candidates, no Democrat can ever get into the white house without the black vote, yet those community leaders are not prepared to tell the democrats that no support for Obama will mean no more dems in the white house for the next 52 years. Bet that would concentrate the minds of all future hopeful dems for years to come including Hillary.
The fact of the matter Adrian is that amerikkka is still a very racist country in spite of your views.
Johnnietoobad.
David // September 27, 2008 at 9:13 AM
Both candidates scored equally in the debate and spared the viewers of any gaffes. McClain was the aggressor while Obama did his scoring on the counters.
All in all given McClain’s obvious advantage on the foreign relations side for Obama to score even he should be satisfied with that performance. With a couple debates to go an even score is satisfactory for Obama given the poll numbers.
AmongAmericasPoor // September 27, 2008 at 11:47 AM
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The only people who make money off the American economy are those who already have more money than they could spend in their and their heirs lifetimes and off the backs of the poor.
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So sorry I did not quote the person who first stated this. My apologies. I am an American. I fall into the “backs of the poor” category. I am mixed blood of NDN/caucasian. My daughter is mixed blood of Black/NDN/caucasian. We, and many (so many I could never measure) others have been at the mercy of wealthy America – and it is not pretty. If you are a poor person in America, you are nothing to the majority of the Country. I have been reading your posts religiously on this and I must say I agree with most of the negative comments made regarding how America treats others. However, the thing that I fear those of us who are cast-out by the very Country we live in – the Great & Powerful USofA – will be included in that ugly number. We are discriminated against on a daily basis, leaving to fend and survive by the Grace of God. We are let go from jobs “without cause”, which in simple terms “discrimation made legal through the wording of a document”. My own daughter has been harrassed by school officials, other citizens of this community, and nothing has been done about it. These folks can get by with ANYTHING. This is the most discrimating place. It is no surprise to me the way other Countries feel about America. However, we are not all alike. Many of us poor fight daily just to keep a roof over our heads, food to feed our childrenm a warm bed at night. In my particular community, if you are not of the “social status” others here want you to be, you are kicked around like a stray dog. Being beaten down until you leave or die because they won’t go anywhere in life they don’t allow you to go. These folks are church-going, self-proclaimed Christians. Even family here – they will spit you out and walk away without a care as to where you will lay your head that night. Then, one day, if you do decide to step-up and speak out not wanting to take the abuse any longer – you are viewed as out-of-control – given the WTH look. I will be supporting Senator Obama in this ‘08 election. America has suffered under the hand of the other Party. A mess created for Senator Obama to have to clean up. God bless him. God help the world.
How can I rightfully make these statements? Because I have lived them. My children have lived them. We are among America’s poor.
Adrian Hinds // September 27, 2008 at 4:21 PM
AmongAmerica’s poor can you tell us where in America you live, and give us proof of it? I don’t believe your claim and i need to be proven wrong can you?
I gine do like a lot of Americans. I gine walk away from my mortgage (since i paying above current value) so that it can be added to the growing number of foreclosures etc. cause there is no way that i am going to foot the bill to bail out others with their 300,000 mortgage home when i got a little meagerly 191,000 mortgage one. Aint gine happen.
Rum Pig // November 13, 2008 at 10:53 PM
WAIT -hold on one sec.What is all this talk about Obama is a black man.Obama is no more black than he is white.He is a half breed so why is he constantly beign refered to as a Black man.He is just as much a WHite man. Get my drift !!!
Can anyone enlighten me. In South Afria they are refered to as ‘coloureds’
The Scout // November 14, 2008 at 2:55 AM
Rum Pig
So too are many so-called black people in Barbados. Our P.M, a black man, is more white than Obama. The difference between many black bajans and white bajans is just a generation or two away. For me, the clour of your skin determines whether you’re black or white. Obama is just as black as any other black man. I see accepted black people in Africa that are fairer than Obama; What happen there, did they bleach out? Get real. this is Always the problem with black ,IDENTIFICATION.
Rum Pig // November 25, 2008 at 11:18 PM
THE SCOUT
I guess what i am refering to is the constant referal to Obamas blackness.We all know he is a black man by colour——why cant we just refer to him as a man and stop distinguishing him by the colour of his skin.
I just see him as a well presented man with a good mind.Maybe i coulored BLIND
Have a rum for me
The Scout // November 26, 2008 at 12:33 AM
Rum Pig
I too see President- Elect Obama beyond coloour. I saw a man that advocates a new way of life for not only America but the whole world. The fact that he is black is secondary but also very important. He advocates unification of the races, this wouldn’t happen in my time but it’s a start and the fact that it was started by a black man would/should make the rest of the world respect us. Blacks were the dominent colour in ancient history, life is just going full circle.