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“They are guests in Barbados and their behaviour was inappropiate and unacceptable. By walking all off the job the nurses may have endangered the lives of patients and that makes it unacceptable.”

Dr. Cynthia Degazon

I agree 100%.
What say you now,ROK, DAVID and others?

It is amazing to me that our CMO did not think it appropiate to comment on the endangerment of patients welfare by these Nigerians walking off the job. The CMO seemed to me to be more concerned about not revealing the aids status of the Nigerians.

CBC was absolutely right.

DLP

We have to give them a chance.

Ah just feel like vexing you.

I was not being sarcastic. It is a serious question. If after all the money spend on AIDS education, the conclusion is that Bajans have become fairly knowledgeable about AIDS, but yet their behaviour has not changed, does not lifestyle pose a problem?

Was it the majority that said Barabas or a few “cheer leaders” that incited the crowd?

“TMW, why you wasting time with Carson. He is the only person marching in time. All others are marching out of time. LOL!”

As you should know, the majority is not always right. They are so many historical examples of this.

Do you remember what happened when Pilate asked the Jewish crowd who do you want, Jesus or Barabas?

The majority replied, “Give us Barabas”.

Were they correct?

AH

What makes you think that HIV/AIDS cannot now be classified as a lifestyle disease?
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Oh nothing ROK absolutely nothing. It is now a matter of record how certain special interest groups have force changes and addition to AMERICAN JOURNAL OF PSYCHOLOGY and the American Medical journal.

As long as you can present and air-tight logically irriefutable agrument, Anything is possible. Yes? LOL!

Too easy….too too easy…LOL
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Go for it Me! I am aware of what you might be attempting. I am skeptic first and foremost, and therefore I asked myself the question, “what and where is ME goin with these questions?” I came up with several answers. Lets continue. It’s all hypothetical anyway, if faced with a real situation there is no telling if my response would be so scripted. ha ha ha ha ha ha lol!

what if your sister was one of the nurses singled out ? what if she was the one who had not died?

the other issue is do we know or care about the situation these same nurses face in Nigeria wehn they return home, it terms of the negative stigma attached to HIV…

I ma not sure if the crimminal deportees are announced on the TV
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Some one close to me died of Aids, and we never hid it, nor treated to them in a manner to cause them any suffering. We made it known for a number of reasons

1: Rumour and gossip only have legs when there is a concerted effor t to hide, deny and cover up.

2: To be a living demonstrations of all that the health authorites try to teach regarding, the contagiousness of HIV/Aids, to fight back agains discrimination, and becuase the bond of love was much stronger than the adversity afflicting the person.

3: The person used their ailment to be an example to the younger ones in the family, to follow best practices in relationships, hygene, etc.

I cannot be so concern about Nigeria to the point that i will allow foreign born workers in my space in the manner that sorrounds these Nigerians workers. Open up the process let us see and hear how they were vetted, what are they qualifications etc. This recent episode is but another blot on their presense here. I have not been accepting of them before and it will not change now.

If a relative of mine was reported as dead and was still much alive, I would first seek to correct the error, find out what lead to the error, determine if there is relief under the law (people must be held to account when they deliberately set to break it) and thats that.

B.T.W i use to date a sweet Vincy girl who is now a nurse at the QEH. LOL!

What makes you think that HIV/AIDS cannot now be classified as a lifestyle disease?

“you being the devil’s advocate”

So that is how you see it. Almost everyone on this blog supporting Nigerian “nurses”, trashing Barbadian CBC and I am the only idiot supporting Barbadian CBC.

I maintain that these foreigners should not be working at the Queen Elizebeth Hospital in the first place taking away Barbadian jobs. Whatever happens to them happens to them and it must be revealed.

the other issue is do we know or care about the situation these same nurses face in Nigeria wehn they return home, it terms of the negative stigma attached to HIV…

I ma not sure if the crimminal deportees are announced on the TV

If it is all true. I would want to know about it. I cannot begin to empathize or sympathize, and more importantly work with the state government (in my neck of the wood) and with Barbadians authorities to repair and correct .

You are poor judge of what harsh and unfeeling is. I think it is more harsh and unfeeling to hush it up and not give anyone a chance to deal with it. Those who are not move to actions when so much wrong is clearly in need of being righted are to my mind the hars and unfeeling.

It is not a big stretch for me base on how i outline the statements and statistics I used to speculate as i have.

My sources also reveal that one of the nurses had cancer not AIDS

so clearly the report was not accurate!

Secondly it is a known fact in the medical circles to which im privy that bajans have a strong sense of denial with respcet to lifestyle diseases and the big CA cancer… hence the high rate of amputations, deaths from Diabetes an heart disease etc
I dont disagree that some people are dying from AIDS withoutb that cause being disclosed but it is a very big stretch to ASSUME that AIDs is the main cause of death in those people you saw in the paper considering the other prevalent diseases in BIM ( which btw also includes ASTHMA)

So you would have no problem is a TV sation in Boston announced that 3 of 75 Bajan nurses were sent home in body bags and that they could not pass their exams and that the current govt in say Boston had no intention of getting nurses from Barbados. If you say yes… you are indeed harsh and unfeeling…. But i guess thats just you!

….but i want to single out the following comment you made

” AIds is not the only thing killing our young people. heart disease, diabetes etc etc are quite prevalent”

I agree and will be returning to this when there is a discussion centered around public figures and the setting good/bad examples. For now though i am willing to speculate on the ages we see reflected in the Obituries, the stats contain in the USaid article and the epidemic of life desease affecting Barbados, that those death are more likely to be HIV related than lifestyle desease related. My speculation is further bolstered i believe by statements i have seen, from Dr. Henry Frazer, the former Minister of health, and few others that suggest we have an epidemic of people (living) with lifestyle deseases, and not deaths. Quite frankly I don’t think it is very prevelant for someone to die at age 40-53 from hypertention, diabeties and other lifestyle deseases. Suffering yes deaths no.

Lifestyle diseases (also called diseases of longevity or diseases of civilization) are diseases that appear to increase in frequency as countries become more industrialized and people live longer. They include Alzheimer’s disease, atherosclerosis, asthma, cancer, chronic liver disease or cirrhosis, Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease, Type 2 diabetes, heart disease, metabolic syndrome, nephritis or chronic renal failure, osteoporosis, acne, stroke, depression and obesity.

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