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A Case Of The Fatted Calf Being Slaughtered?

April 28, 2009 · 57 Comments

arable-landBloggers around the world are being asked  to take action to combat the poverty and hunger affecting more than 500 million people worldwide and responsible for the deaths of over 15 million children each year through a campaign Blogger Unite For Hunger and Hope. BU although concerned about people everywhere the campaign (blogging)  has served to bring to the fore again the little regard Barbadians have for agriculture and by extension food security.

BU commenter Nostradamus reminded us recently that there is an application in Town Planning to change 136 acres of agricultural land, representing 30% of Staple Grove Plantation, from agricultural to residentialthere will be a Consultation at the Meeting Hall of St. David’s Anglican Church on Monday April 27, 2009 at 6:00pm. The meeting will allow for comment and discussion on the proposed plans for the subdivision of lands at St. David’s Village, Ch. Ch and Staple grove Ch. Ch. Into lots for residential purposes.

The government led by Minister Michael Lashley has been on a quest to generate housing solutions to deliver on a Democratic Labour Party campaign promise. The government led by Minister Haynesley Benn has also been on a quest to move agriculture back to the centre of our economy. The two Ministers maybe on a collision course given all that has happened during the previous government when there were many accusations levelled that prime agricultural land was being sub-divided willy-nilly for residential and other purposes.

In light of the above BU’s interest was peeked when commenter Nostradamus made his intervention.  Luckily we were able to persuade a BU family member to attend the Consultation on the sub-division of lands at Staple Grove, St. Davids for residential purposes and report back her findings.

Barbadians are aware that Staple Grove Plantation which stretches from Edey Village to Kent runs almost parallel to the St. George Valley. The significance is that these lands represent the most prime agricultural lands in Barbados perhaps with the exception of those in the St. Thomas belt. The idea that approximately 144 acres is proposed to be sub-divided in the first instance by developer PDS Inc only serves to make some of us hold our bellies and bawl.

The Consultation was attended by about 40-50 people which included officials from Town Planning, Developers etc. The group although small was very vociferous in feedback when time for Q&As.

Here are some of the issues raised as recalled because note taking was not advised:

  1. When asked to reveal who the developers PDS Inc the presenter suggested that those interested should scan the environmental impact assessment (EIA) document located in St. David’s Church for viewing by the public, or request a search at the corporate registry. This was not received too kindly. In fairness to the presenter when referring to the developers he would throw his hands in a certain direction in the room and as luck would have it our BU family member is 99% sure that the three gentlemen sitting at the back of the room Mr. Om Prakash, Suleman Nana and one other unrecognizable man, although his face was familiar Barbadian who works in tourism of Indian descent.
  2. The issue of water to serve such a large residential area was raised by residents from the area. Based on feedback water outages is already being suffered by residents of the St. Davids area. The presenters of the EIA assured residents that the Barbados Water Authority (BWA) has promised that water will be pumped from surrounding reservoirs like Rising Sun and others. Again this was not received well by the small gathering and some loudly expressed a lack of confidence in the BWA to deliver. A suggestion was made that a water solution should be in place before Town Planning submits its recommendation for approval to the Minister.
  3. The issue of the St. David’s main road which separates the school and the church was thought to be inadequate and should be widened before approval is recommended by the Town Planning department to the Minister.
  4. Dust and smell pollution produced by a Chicken Farm and Asphalt Company to the East of the proposed residential area was suggested as a potential negative. The presenter (who compiled the EIA) indicated that the two entities fell outside the impact zone identified by Town Planning department for EIA.
  5. A resident suggested that the proposed 800+ houses to be built on 140 acres was a bit tight. The presenter indicated that a 2 acre area would be allocated as a recreational area for the residents.
  6. There was the suggestion that the EIA document should be available to any member of the public for a fee (cost) and published on the Internet for all to review.
  7. Scepticism was expressed that feedback from the group would be seriously considered because at the end of the process the Minister had the final say i.e. he could overrule the Town Planner if he wanted.

The above represent several of the points raised from recall.

It is interesting to note that between 2004-2005 several applications, residential and commercial were approved by the former government to build in the general area of Staple Grove in St. Davids  – People’s Cathedral, St. David’s Primary School, National Housing Corporation (93 lots) and several others.

Of concern to BU is the promise by government when on the campaign trail that given the need to curb the carving up of arable land to supply housing high-rise solutions would be considered. So far we have not read or heard Town Planning and by extension government pressuring developers to produce high rise solutions.

We are also concerned that Staple Grove plantation which owns some of the most arable land in Barbados is being sacrificed to housing without a fight.

We are also concerned that a major residential/commercial development for the area is being considered for approval in the absence of a well thought out amenities infrastructure.

We are also concerned that several St. Davids residents own 3-4 acre lands which they have been unable to get approval. This information came out in the survey commissioned as part of the EIA.

Recently Sir Othniel ‘Cow’ Williams announced that he would be building 100 houses in St. John. How is it these large developers are able to get approval to sub-divide but small people cannot?

How come PDS Inc feels so confident that they can apply for permission to cut-up Staple Grove plantation which is some of the most arable land in Barbados?

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57 responses so far ↓

  • Deng Xiaping // April 28, 2009 at 11:19 PM

    From page 42 of that pack of lies, “Pathways to Progress: Manifesto of the Democratic Labour Party 2008″ : In the first 100 days introduce the Agriculture Protection act that will require a 2/3 majority of both houses of parliament for a change of use of land from agriculture. We will reserve 30, 000 acres for agriculture use.

    A friend has informed me that the 30,000 acres will be reserved …..in Guyana!

  • 199 // April 29, 2009 at 2:39 AM

    Dave, as I understand, Bajans r now too nice tuh get their hands dirty doing agriculture! It’s no longer like time immemorial, up to the 50s when a Bajan was prepared to till the soil. It’s now an SUV first an foremost an anyting else comes a poor second place! Personally, I harp back for the old days!! :)

  • Yardbroom // April 29, 2009 at 3:02 AM

    Where there is no direction the people will surely perish, authorities should always ensure there is an objective of self-sufficiency, if that is not possible – which is often the case – they should try to get as near that position as is reasonable.

    The “concrete brutalism” juggernaut is in full gear for having ravished the West and South coasts it turns its ugly head inwards to the “body” of Barbados. It is significant an inland parish is being discussed, it is a signal that the end game is near. The periphery of all that was beautiful has been destroyed and in a last desperate effort, the beast has turned on itself.

    We treasure nothing but a pile of bank notes however acquired…it will all be blown away in the wind and then the people will perish.

  • 199 // April 29, 2009 at 6:06 AM

    Want I want to know is whether many or any of you are going to put yourselves forward for becoming councillors when the new bodies come into being or whether you’re just going to sit on here waffling every day and actually achieving, nothing?!!

  • Donald Duck, Esq // April 29, 2009 at 8:52 AM

    Physical Development plan 2003 was formulated on the basis that there will be 45,000 acres in agriculture. PM Thompson signed off on it. However in the DLP throne speech, there was mention of 30,000 acres being kept in agriculture!!!

    Can anyone explain the difference???

  • Donald Duck, Esq // April 29, 2009 at 8:55 AM

    I urge readers to remember the following promises made in the DLP manifesto.

    IMMEDIATE ACTION

    Labour rights legislation (page 36)

    A new DLP government will move to immediately enact a comprehensive national Labour Rights legislative compendium which will include the following:

     A Full Employment Rights Act
     An Alternative Disputes Settlement and Arbitration Committee
     A Sexual Harassment in the Workplace Act
     National minimum wages legislation
     Legislation fully recognizing Trade Unions.

    Approval of capital account transactions (page 25)

    Immediately review the current Central Bank procedures for approving capital account transactions with a view to simplifying and speeding up the approval (or denial) process for restricted transactions.

    Port charges (page 33)

    The DLP pledges to immediately re-examine the Port charges with a view to significantly reducing these to manufacturers as they consider them to be a burdensome cost. They say that tonnage dues are charged twice; – on raw materials when imported and again on finished products when being exported.

    Integrity legislation (page 48)

    Immediately introduce integrity legislation requiring

     a declaration of assets by public officials,
     a Code of Conduct for Ministers,
     a new Freedom of Information law,
     amendments to the Defamation laws and
     new constitutional provisions to rationalize the powers of the Prime Minister.

    Health issues (page 11)

    A new DLP Government will immediately embark on a health promotion campaign to sensitize the public to the dangers of unhealthy lifestyles

    ISSUES TO BE DEALT WITH IN FIRST 100 DAYS

    Don’t forget the DLP promises to do the following in the first 100 days

     Introduce the Agriculture Protection Act that will require a 2/3 majority of both houses of parliament for a change of use of land from agriculture.

     Remove VAT from building materials on houses valued up to $400,000.
     convene a National Consultation on Education

  • The Scout // April 29, 2009 at 9:34 AM

    199
    I don’t think you quite understand what is happening in Barbados as far as bajan farmers are concerned. Praedial larceny is very frequent and it appears only bajan farmers are losing crops, yet the police is doing little to curb the problem. Even when some-one is caught, that person just gets a slap on the wrist. The more land that is used for construction, is forcing the monkey population from their natural habitat and they are seriously attacking almost all types of crops. Since local farmers don’t get adequate rebate on fertilizers and chemicals, the price of produce is very high and the merchants are allowed to import foreign crops at half the price produced in Barbados. Most farmers, for the love of it would still work the land but the biggest bug-bearer is the tiefing both by the two-footed and four – footed monkeys.

  • The Scout // April 29, 2009 at 9:39 AM

    It is funny how these big portions of agricultural land can be removed for residential purposes, yet I’m trying for the last ten years to have a portion of my land that is rab land sub-divided so that my children can build. it seems as though I would have to go and buy a piece of agriculural land from one of the “big boys” that has been allowed for residential purposes. like the chinese man said ” sumting wung”

  • Donald Duck, Esq // April 29, 2009 at 10:55 AM

    Don’t you think it is time we started building upwards. We can’t continue building outwards. It is time the government provided tax incentives to build upwards and to tell Town planning to allow such developments

  • Dark Knight // April 29, 2009 at 11:17 AM

    What about: “The Agricultural Protection Act,” which the DLP promised would have been on the statute books within the first 100 days?

    Still, it is not that the DLP is taking land out of agriculture for housing but that the DLP is merely repaying “brandname people” for their campaign contributions in the last General Elections.

    C.O.W put-in money, in the DLP’s General Election pot and he received permission to remove 80 acres in two days.

    COW was so happy with his slice of the “fatted” that he told Barbados that he was able to get from Thompson, in two hours, what he did not get from Owen in 14 years.

    JADA put in the DLP’s pot and they now benefit from a $400 million building pay back at warrens.

    Kiffin put in and he is getting Obese with a sweetheart Diesel Pump where all Mini Buses and ZRs have to fill-up at weymouth.

    Well we know Parris and Clico “get back $20 million in bailout, even though they gave the DLP $15 million.

    David Seale put in the DLP’s general election pot and he is now on the Economic Council – having already received a $19 million write-off, of the Turf Club debt.

    What nonsense about housing? It is pay back time!

    In order to qualify for a House at the NHC , you must have to be working.

    However, given the thousands who have gone home and will continue to go home – the demand may still be there but fewer people will qualify.

    It is therefore not about “housing.” It is about payback.

  • Royalrumble // April 29, 2009 at 11:50 AM

    Fellows don’t forget that the investment was removed from the Ministry of Economic Development and placed under Thompson in the Ministry of Finance. It is from there that he and Hartley Henry make demands on the investor to grease their hands before approvals are granted.

    Thompson is not interested in enacting his promised Agricultural Protection Act because he is making a killing off investors who want land for housing and commercial development.

    Anything to do with investments in this country has to come through Thompson and Hartley. This is the change that Barbadians wanted and voted for in 2008.

    I draw bloggers attention to some strange happenings at Town and Country Planning Department. Bloggers may recall hearing Thompson talking about changes coming for Town Planning. But what is that all about?

    Well it is no secret that Chief Town Planner, Mr. Cummins is a very strict and upright professional who follows the Town Planning Act to the letter. One cannot get shady developments past him or to corrupt him with bribes.

    Thompson is aware of Mr. Cummins’ strong professional stance when it comes to his job.

    Towards the end of last year a Town Planner down the line from the Chief Mr. Cummins was selected ahead of him to attend an overseas conference that was scheduled for Chief Town Planners. Since the DLP came to office Mr. Cummins’ interaction with the department has been diminishing.

    The view on the ground is that part of the changes coming to Town Planning is the removal of the current Chief Town Planner and replace him with someone more favourably disposed to Thompson and Hartley.

    Bloggers don’t be surprised therefore at the level of increase of applications for the removal agricultural land to housing. It’s all in the plan. The Thompson and Hartley plan.

  • 199 // April 29, 2009 at 11:52 AM

    Thanks for your reply, Scout. You have my sympathies, bro. I’ve often got to wonder what the Bim authorites r doing for their money!

    As for building upwards, well, as far as I’m concerned, that’s long overdue!! I’ve always thought this Bajan restriction on building skyscrapers, is laughable! There’re ok in every other part of the world, except Bim, of course!!

    LOL!!

    As for the question of joining the local authorities; well, typical Bajans, one might as well talk to oneself!! Dave, r u sure there’s any real point of having this blog?!!

  • Diaspora-ite // April 29, 2009 at 1:08 PM

    Yardbroom wrote: “The “concrete brutalism” juggernaut is in full gear for having ravished the West and South coasts it turns its ugly head inwards to the “body” of Barbados. It is significant an inland parish is being discussed, it is a signal that the end game is near. The periphery of all that was beautiful has been destroyed and in a last desperate effort, the beast has turned on itself.”

    No one would take issue the negative nature of the over-development of the south and west coasts, but I would like to respectfully point out the amount of building going on in the non-coastline areas of Barbados. I would hazard a guess that the total square-footage of private construction away from the coasts far exceeds the few high-profile projects that are easy targets of bloggers’ outrage. Parishes like St. George, St. Thomas and St. Philip are seeing huge houses being erected. Surely these are not all being built by foreigners?

    Barbadians are becoming more affluent and are demanding bigger and better homes. Returning nationals are also part of the changing demographic landscape of Barbados. Too many factors pressing on one of Barbados’ most restrictive resources, land.

    I agree with a previous poster, RoyalRumble, that Barbados is blessed to have a thoroughly professional and upright Chief Town Planner. It is up to him to ensure that planning permissions and subdivision permits are not issued willy-nilly and that due process of law is followed. Make no mistake, the political pressure on him will be enormous. Having gone through the permitting process myself, and having had to wait for 9 months for my building permission, I am hopeful that the TCPO will not cave in to political pressure and authorize new subdivisions on prime agricultural land.

  • David // April 29, 2009 at 1:14 PM

    Please note that the Chief Town Planner can present a reasoned
    position to the Minister responsible for planning but the Minister can
    overrule if he or she desires.

  • The Scout // April 29, 2009 at 2:19 PM

    Irrespective of the Cheif Town Planner’s decision, the P.M can and doesn’t over-rule some of those decisions. Many of those decisions were over-ruled by the former P.M in favor of some big names in this country, while ignoring some small people who just wanted a few thousand sq ft for a child to build on.

  • Dark Knight // April 29, 2009 at 2:36 PM

    Listen Joker – yes you Scout,

    Name one such occasion when the former PM over-ruled the Chief Town Planner in favour of someone or shut up.

    Do you realise that Foreign Direct Investments have dried up?

    Stop posting gossip and deal with serious issues such as: what taxes will Thompson raise or which Ministry Votes will he cut- in order to finance his $745 million deficit.

    In fact, you should go back to do what you have been doing well – talking about bulling.

  • Donald Duck, Esq // April 29, 2009 at 3:40 PM

    Has any one got comments on what is being done on the land opposite the entrance to Fort George.

  • Wishing In Vain // April 29, 2009 at 5:50 PM

    C.O.W put-in money, in the DLP’s General Election pot and he received permission to remove 80 acres in two days.

    You complete idiot, the Williams brothers NEVER made and contributions to the DLP those contributions were only made to the BLP for that matter right up to the week before elections Shelley Williams and Bizzy Williams were heard bemoaning The Prime Minister Mr David Thompson, and saying people would have to be stupid to support the DLP, not a cent was asked or requested of the Williams brothers and not a cent was given.

    JADA put in the DLP’s pot and they now benefit from a $400 million building pay back at warrens.

    Lie number two in succession the property values amount to $ 100 mil for two buildings and JADA have one to build and ROTHERLEY has the other it would be reasonable to believe that JADA is not collecting alll of this payment and ROTHERLEY zero ???

  • Nostradamus // April 29, 2009 at 6:35 PM

    @WIV

    Your post is confusing. Please clarify
    JADA is building one and ROTHERLY the other building?

  • David // April 29, 2009 at 6:40 PM

    @WIV

    Are you saying that there was no tender put out by government to build the two office buildings?

  • Wishing In Vain // April 29, 2009 at 7:03 PM

    JADA is building one and ROTHERLY the other building?

    Yes two buildings are to be built for the Gov’t for office space and one is to be built by JADA and one to be built by ROTHERLEY the two largest contractors on the island, you must bear in mind that these companies already owned the land and already had building permissions in place and were ready to move on the say so.

    It is an excellent program that will assist in keeping our work force of builders working thru these quieter time in their industry, kudos to the Cabinet for moving with haste to halt any slide in the workforce, they the workers will move from projects now finishing onto these two new projects with gusto.

  • Deng Xiaping // April 29, 2009 at 7:12 PM

    So the land is owned by the construction companies and the NIS is providing the money. This is a loan or a joint venture or what?

  • David // April 29, 2009 at 8:11 PM

    @WIV

    Let us be clear!

    Are you saying that after the hallabuloo of the last election campaign when the DLP platform lambasted the then government about a lack of transparency in the tendering process the current DLP government has done the same thing?

    Don’t tell us that these two construction companies employ the most people because that is not the point. What about the financial rules?

    If the government has an idea of using preselected companies to do the work shouldn’t the government come to the PEOPLE and explain the rationale? Frankly what we have heard so far is business as usual. Unless there is more.

  • Donald Duck, Esq // April 29, 2009 at 8:46 PM

    Could someone comment on the added traffic congestion which will result when the two buildings are completed in warrens?

    Should we not consider underground stations at this point since the DLP over ruled flyovers?

  • Donald Duck, Esq // April 29, 2009 at 8:47 PM

    Could the chariman of NIS comment on if there was a public tender for the construction of the building?

  • Nostradamus // April 29, 2009 at 9:53 PM

    I have absolutely no insider information and I am taking what WIV has said here at face value.From what haas been said I suspect that these buildings are going to be financed and owned by NIS as investments and not subject to the financial rules that would govern a government project.

    Just as the BLP got around the tender for flyovers by using a BOLT the DLP will get around having to tender these 2 buildings because they are an NIS project.

    Anyway that’s just speculation. I am sure that very shortly in the interest of transparency the NIS or government will reveal all. Right WIV?

  • Wishing In Vain // April 29, 2009 at 9:55 PM

    David how would you put a project out to tender when the land and permissions are owned by the two companies ?

    The Gov’t set about seeking land or owners of land with TCP permissions to build office buildings in a zone of the area of Warrens.

    I am not sure how you could build on the property owned by JADA and have TOM FOOLERY build the office block on JADA’S land and the same is true for ROTHERLEY and if another company comes to the fore with land and building permissions in place and the Gov’t required another office building I am sure that the company would be considered in the same light.

  • Nostradamus // April 29, 2009 at 9:59 PM

    Someone just informed me that one of the applicants for the development at Staple Grove is a company – B.D.S. Hy-Giene Products Limited and the directors are:
    Om Prakash (Businessman)
    Ram Boolani (Engineer)
    Priya Prakash (Secretary)

  • Wishing In Vain // April 29, 2009 at 10:01 PM

    Nostradamus, you are right, fear not, unlike in the past when road works could be done without a written contract, these buildings have airtight contracts written into them for the protection of both the Vendor and the Buyer, and will be delivered on time and on budget, I can assure you.

  • Wishing In Vain // April 29, 2009 at 10:04 PM

    Ram Boolani (Engineer)

    OOOOHHHH, OOOOHHHH,

    Ask Kerrie Symmonds if he knows this person?

  • John // April 30, 2009 at 5:58 AM

    Donald Duck, Esq // April 29, 2009 at 3:40 pm

    Has any one got comments on what is being done on the land opposite the entrance to Fort George.
    +++++++++++++++++++++

    Don’t know … but look at the topography and you will see that the probability is high that significant voids and collapsed caves underlie this land.

    It is part of one of the watercourses that starts behind Kent and drains a part of the top of the Christ Church Dome.

    Looks like the surface water draining that way during heavy rainfall disappears in this land and reappears possibly in the Graeme Hall area where there are springs.

    Hopefully the powers that be will go to the trouble of imaging the subsurface before doing anything radical.

    There is the small matter of the $50 million building at Warrens, the collapse of the house at Ellerton …. and heaven forbid, Arch Cot to inform their considerations.

    Similar sinkholes can be found on top of the Dome so I hope the extra effort to understand the underlying limestone is made before the building of any school or church or high density housing development is attempted there.

    ….. all the same, much of the development on the western flank of the island is occurring on land which to the untrained eye is probably even more heavily cracked, fissured and full of voids so maybe there is nothing to fear

    …. or maybe the effort to understand the underlying coral structure has already been made by a forward thinking and progressive ministry of Govenment.

  • The People's Democratic Congress // April 30, 2009 at 6:34 AM

    While some Barbadians continue to make their contributions to locally oriented internet blogs, and some persist in calling the local call-in programs, and whereas some continue to write letters to the editor – in many cases venting their frustrations and anger over how the affairs of our country has been substantially mismanaged by the DLP and BLP Governments over the years – it yet remains to be seen how both these wicked old parties – the DLP and BLP – still carry on in their nasty old ways at taking turns at destroying much of the future of this country.

    So, local bloggers, local callers to call-in programs, letter writers to the editor, and not to forget those who even participate in town hall meetings concerning serious national issues, seem NOT to understand that simply blogging, calling in, talking and making verbal contributions at town hall meetings and public lectures, which – even though necessary if or when many of these forms of social expression are seen by some Barbadians to be valid and reasonable in their essences and would help lead to essentially non-political changes for the better – are and will still though NOT EVER be enough to stop the stupid nonsensical damage that both the DLP and BLP and their cohorts have been doing for years in this country.

    Therefore, one of the keys to realizing the democratic removal of both the DLP and the BLP from the parliament of this country is more and more steadfast concerted mass based political action AGAINST these two INCREASINGLY idiotic senseless parties that have been ruining many of the hopes and dreams of thousands upon thousands of people in Barbados for a brighter and better functioning country.

    Finally, surely, the time for much of this mocking political interplay that is observed in many fora between supporters and members of these two factions over meaningless political arguments for cheap political points, and in a context whereby the vast majority of Barbadians live in dire misery and hardship and have lost much hope for better, must be brought to a very serious end by an increasingly politically educated and mobilized broad masses and middle classes in the country.

    PDC

  • Nostradamus // April 30, 2009 at 7:01 AM

    WIV, ” ….I can assure you.” And we are supposed to be satisfied with your assurance? No transparency?

    Hopefully very soon NIS will have the courtesy to let the country and NIS contributors know how they are spending our money. When can we expect the deatils to be laid out?

    WIV, what was the last year that audited financials are availabel for NIS?

  • Wishing In Vain // April 30, 2009 at 8:19 AM

    WIV, what was the last year that audited financials are availabel for NIS?

    My suggestion is the next time Minister Estwick is around you should chat with him on the affairs of NIS it will make interesting conversation.

  • Simple // April 30, 2009 at 10:16 AM

    It is so easy to find a cane ground full of trash than to find a capsule of facts.
    Where are we now?
    Wishing de PDC luck in their struggle .

  • Dark Knight // April 30, 2009 at 10:59 AM

    If Jada and Rotherley own the land, and the NIS is putting up that $400 million, then who will own those two building when they are built: the NIS, Government or the contractors/landowners?

    At the end of the day, who will own the land?

    Is the land being leased for 99 years like the Military Base in Cuba?

    If so, how much money will the taxpayers have to fork out as lease payment annually?

    What are the details!

    Pensioners want to know the cost because it is their $400 million and taxpeyers want to know about this sweetheart deal, because if there is a long lease, they will have to pay the tab.

    Pray tell, hartley, what are the details of this “secret dealt,” being made by the government of: “Mr. Squeaky Clean,”
    as regards, those two buildings.

    Are we to believe that Jada and Rotherley will be paid for building two government buildings, and will still get golden parachutes (monthly/annual income) for having given permission for those two building being built on their land.

    If so, why this “sweetheart deal?”

    You see why I mean by corruption!

    BU Amin, do you know what is the current land tax on that commercial land that is now idle?

    Why is the DLP doing those two companies a favour?

    What is this pay back for? Campaign contributions – the money they put into the DLP 2008 general election pot?

    Look at this Secret Deal? This shady deal is certainly not the “Change” Barbadians expected.

  • Wishing In Vain // April 30, 2009 at 12:07 PM

    There was a time you could speak with authority on corruption in office the gov’t changed and removed you and your corrupt lot from office do not judge other by your lack of standards or morals.

    You will hear what needs to be heard and no amount of your whining and mourning will change that but finally honesty has returned to goverance in Barbados minus the blp clowns.

  • Dark Knight // April 30, 2009 at 12:49 PM

    “You will hear what needs to be heard and no amount of your whining and mourning will change that”

    You hear that trademark DLP arrogance as spouted by hartley “the Klown” henry, who is being paid $155,000 to cuss people?

    It is that same level of DLP arrogance why the Barbados economy is in recession.

    It it why little old ladies cannot get their pension cheques, at a time when the same NIS is using $400 million of the same pensioners’ money – to build two buildings.

    Old ladies cannot get their pension to buy a tin of Macreal or sardines but this uncaring DLP could take up $400 million of their pension money to build two buildings, those old ladies will never go in!

    It is because the DLP would not listen to the wise advice of the BLP but opted to hide economic and cost of living statistics – even though promising “Freedom of Information” and “good governance” – that this country is in “PERIL.”

  • Simple // April 30, 2009 at 1:35 PM

    My simple slightly educated mind tells me that PARLIAMENT is the head forum for discussing the matters that affects all of our lives. Be it economics, health and safety, jobs or job losses, international matters, fishing aggrements old or new , subsidies , food and cost of living leadership should come from parliament. Cussing and busing should be elsewhere and public relations elsewhere.

    Serious issues demand serious actions even moreso when it pertains to the citizens of our country and the public good. We need real action to match words. We in dis together.

  • Dark Knight // April 30, 2009 at 1:51 PM

    hartley, when will little old ladies get their pension cheques from the NIS?

    hartley, have a heart man!

    How can the NIS spend $400 million to build two buildings but the same NIS cannot give old ladies their pension cheques?

    You notice that the PM, the Minister of Social Care or the Minister of Families – are not saying anything about this?

    Why hartley? Cud dear man! Give the old ladies de few coppers man!

    hartley, you people were quick to give Clico $20 million and were also quick to write-off $19 million for brandname people who own race horses.

    It is obvious that the DLP does not care about the small man.

    That is why it does not care that this is almost three months now that old ladies cannot get the few coppers in their pension cheques.

  • Simple // April 30, 2009 at 2:07 PM

    @ Dark Knight

    Would like to suggest you channel your money issues with NIS funds through your M.P so that he could ask a question in parliament. After all money issues take root dey.
    Den if no answer beg de unions to help wid de question.

    Dats all for now.

  • Dark Knight // April 30, 2009 at 2:22 PM

    I am sorry!

    You are obviouly not a pensioner and might have been self employed.

  • Yardbroom // April 30, 2009 at 3:59 PM

    @ Diaspora-ite

    No reasonable person could disagree with all that you wrote, my response to your statement quote: “I would hazard a guess that the total square footage of private construction away from the coasts far exceeds the few high-profile projects that are the easy targets for bloggers.”

    The above does not surprise me as ” a large number of permanent residents” have to be accommodated with decent housing and naturally they should not be denied that opportunity.

    An issue in this debate is what appears to be the arbitrary way in which decisions on planning are taken. Ordinary people are denied permission to construct family dwellings on their vacant land, whilst large companies or those with connections can crucify swathes of “prime agricultural land.”

    We have a “public consultation meeting,” dare I say it again a public consultation meeting to discuss a very large construction project. This meeting is convened for comment and discussion with interested persons, some who will love in close promixity to the proposed construction site. When the question is asked from the floor, who are the “owners” of the development…they were “not told”, just directed to another place, simply amazing. With whom were the public consulting?

    My thinking is not against foreigners in this regard, it is focussed on proper planning regulations, administered with openness and fairness to all. It should not be “perceived” that access to large personal wealth, or being well connected are the main determinants of successful planning decisions…in Barbados, perception is often the reality. We often skirt around the issues without focus.

  • David // April 30, 2009 at 7:40 PM

    After hearing Jepter Ince who is Chairman of the National Insurance Board on the program this evening he certainly does not inspire confidence. Also the producer/moderator did little to give Blackman a chance to respond to the rambling Ince. A far difference from the coherent Blackman.

  • Nostradamus // May 1, 2009 at 10:04 AM

    It seems that Mr. Ince is Chairman of the Board. Who are the other Board members?

    NIS have a webiste but this piece of basic public information is not there. At least not that I could find. Only found this on “How the NIS functions”

    Our social security scheme is run by the National Insurance Board, a body corporate, and the National Insurance Office, which is a unit of the Civil Service.
    The Minister responsible for Social Security makes appointments to the Board, and the National Insurance Office falls under his control.

    The Board is made up of nine members and is tripartite, meaning that it’s made up of representatives of the government and workers’ and employers’ organisations.

    The Minister may also, as necessary, devise regulations under the National Insurance and Social Security Act to regulate the scheme. The functions of the board and the director are outlined in the relevant act and regulations.

    Generally, control and management of the fund are entrusted to the Board. The Director, who is the Chief Executive Officer of the department, is responsible for determining matters such as the right to benefit, and for the day-to-day management of the office.
    Link
    http://www.nis.gov.bb/index_.cfm?section=About%20Us&subsection=How%20the%20NIS%20functions

    Keltruth blog also have a story on NIS
    http://keltruthblog.com/blog/

  • Nostradamus // May 1, 2009 at 10:23 AM

    Some information just coming to hand. Apparently it is in the EIA document.

    There are 3 applicants applying for permission to change the land use of 136 acres at Staple Grove from Agricultural to housing and light commercial.

    P.D.S. Inc
    J H & J Project Services
    BDS Hygiene Products Ltd

    I already posted the directors (as given to me) of BDS Hygiene. Anyone know who the directors are or the other companies?

    Who actually owns Staple Grove Plantation? The applicants?

  • Diaspora-ite // May 2, 2009 at 11:10 AM

    Yardbroom, “This meeting is convened for comment and discussion with interested persons, some who will “love” in close proximity to the proposed construction site.”

    Good Freudian slip there, my friend! Actually there will probably be lots of “living” as well as “loving” in close proximity to Staple Grove!

    You have absolutely nailed it with your analysis of the situation. No arguments from this quarter!

    Nostradamus, Staple Grove plantation was originally owned by the Ward family but it was sold several years ago to “Indian” businessmen [or so my source informs me], basically for debts owed to the Barbados Agricultural Bank. I understand that the great house is/was owned by a prominent Barbadian Attorney-at-Law who is very involved in the off-shore sector. The “yard”, presumably including the great house, was up for sale last year, as indicated by a sign at the road, but that sign is now gone.

  • David // May 2, 2009 at 11:42 AM

    In our blog we indicated that based on our source PDS Inc is Om Prakask, Suleman Nana and one other. All of the men are Barbadians with Indian extraction.

  • Diaspora-ite // May 2, 2009 at 12:05 PM

    Apologies David. You are quite correct. “Barbadians of Indian extraction/descent” would be the correct term. I apologize for my terminology.

  • Nostradamus // May 3, 2009 at 7:09 AM

    David,

    My source says that Om Prakash (not Prakask) is definitely a director of B.D.S. Hy-Giene Products Limited together with:

    Ram Boolani (Engineer)
    Priya Prakash (Secretary)

    Maybe he is also a director of P.D.S. Inc?

  • Dark Knight // May 4, 2009 at 10:13 AM

    Sweethear deal for campaign contributions. But will money be there for you when you retire:

    When will little old ladies get their pension cheques from the NIS?

    How can the NIS spend $400 million to build two buildings at Warrens but the same NIS cannot give old ladies their pension cheques?

    Why put money in buildings/mortgage (6% return) instead of Government Paper (7.5%+)

    Will Jada and Rotherley use the land as equity in those two building the government is building at Warrens?

    What is the amount Jada and Rotherley now pay in land tax for the land at Warrens?

    Will they get income from leasing the land and how much will it be per month/year.

    Will it be a profit (sweetheart deal) when compared to the amount they would otherwise have been required to pay in land tax?

  • Mike Ashby // May 8, 2009 at 7:03 PM

    Thanks BU, your concerns are WELL founded. Several commentators give praise to the current Chief Town Planner, Mr. Cummins and his strong professional stance when it comes to his job. Hopefully, plans for his removal don’t come true. I must confess I have not seen the Staple Grove/St. David’s EIA and since I cannot get to the church I hope someone can direct me where I can get an electronic copy.
    Now on to business, two points you raise are somewhat within my line-of-sight: I am going to reverse the order because I have a comment for Donald Duck, Esq., WIV and John on a connected point.
    Point #5
    “A resident suggested that the proposed 800+ houses to be built on 140 acres was a bit tight. The presenter indicated that a 2 acre area would be allocated as a recreational area for the residents.”
    The current PDP (Barbados Physical Development Plan Amended 2003) have a very clear stipulation; as part of infrastructure planning for the island, the plan calls for about 4.57 acres for every 1000 residents to be set aside for recreation and open space. Very simple arithmetic (not advance calculus) dictates that it would take a lot more than 2 acres to comply with current Barbados law.
    Point #2
    “The issue of water to serve such a large residential area was raised by residents from the area…”
    The main problem here is that I don’t believe that TPCO or BWA have carried out a recent water quality survey for the island. There is a simple geologic fact; fresh water keeps out salt water. ALL of Barbados drinking water supply comes from underground reservoirs the higher the daily demand the lower the groundwater levels and the higher the chance of saltwater intrusion. ONCE SALT GETS INTO THE GROUNDWATER SUPPLY IT IS NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE TO GET IT OUT.
    Has any one got comments on what is being done on the land opposite the entrance to Fort George.
    +++++++++++++++++++++
    @ Donald Duck, Esq., WIV and John
    Yes, John has made some very salient points in his comment. What is now Fort George was once Wildey and Upton plantations. We would ride or walk the entire area and your assessments are correct. There are some areas where holes and cracks are present in the coral cap. Also, if any of you lived in the area and had to dig a well, you would know exactly what I’m talking about. Once you break through the cap there is a lot of void space underneath, we call them ‘suck-holes.’

  • David // May 9, 2009 at 10:18 AM

    @Mike Ashby

    We regret to inform you that in the year of our Lord 2009 the EIA is not available online.

  • Nostradamus // May 9, 2009 at 10:28 AM

    Mike Ashby, you want an electronic copy of the EIA. Are you crazy? That would mean that that a really wide cross section of the public and professionals would actually be able to peruse the document and make a valuable input. That’ s a “no no”.

    Excellent point about the amount of recreational area that the PDP 2003 requires to be set aside and what the developer is actually offering.

    Just goes to show the insights that might be offerd to the decision makers if they really and truly made the information widley available for comment.

  • Nostradamus // May 9, 2009 at 10:50 AM

    David, there was another EIA/ Public Meeting notice in the press this week about “Pickering Development “to discuss the proposed residential and commercial development at Pickering, St. Lucy”.

    Meeting is on June 10th, 2009 at 7:30pm at North Stars Cultural & Social Club, Crab Hill St. Lucy.

    Copy of EIA Available from May 11 to Tuesday June 09 at:

    TCPD Office Garrison
    North Stars Cultural & Social Club
    Post Office Bentham’s St. Lucy
    Police Station Crab Hill
    Speightstown Library

    Shouldn’t these notices give a sense of what the developments are about in a couple of sentences. For example the size/area the development will cover, number of houses etc.

    The notice should also be on the TCPD website with a summary of the development and the full EIA available for download. At a minimum they could make the executive summary available.

  • Mike Ashby // May 13, 2009 at 12:32 AM

    Thanks D and N, I’m slowly coming to my senses. I was told that in Barbados we don’t do accountability, it look as though we don’t do transparency either.

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