The principal of Harrison College is considered an embarassment to students who go there because of his frequent use of green verbs.

If real men go to HC, Lodge etc what does that make the girls who attend those schools.

QC boy…sigh you disappoint.

‘QC boy’ does not know any better. I hope his naivety does not turn into stupidity when he reaches the real world. Most of my family members were and some are still QC students but not one of them has that attitude. the reason is their family upbringing – what they are taught in their homes – because we all know what is implied at the school. I missed out on QC as a ‘fluke’ and ended up at a newer secondary school but i would never trade places. I sit in class with students my age and younger who attended the older secondary school who look to me for answers and explanations. I do not hesitate to help QC boy is being taught one thing, that is to get the very best grades possible. getting these grades shows how intelligent a person is. he however knows nothing about having a well-rounded education. if he did he would not lack intellectual ‘peripheral’ vision. As it is he is mature enough only to see one thing. His Principal and HC principal should explain to tell him the saying ‘there is none so blind as he who WILL not see’

it might be true that newer secondary school students make up the population of Dodds but that cannot be taken in a vacuum. look at the people’s past and one would see students who went to school hungry, students who were raised with a mother who got no help from the father; children who were molested and abused; children whose parents struggled and continued to struggled because of low paying jobs. yes when these students became adults, they should have been strong enough to withstand all the vices out there but not everyone is strong. when a child is hungry and poor, he is susceptible to drug lords and whoever because all he wants is something to eat.

‘QC boy’ may be privilege or have mature parents or his home life is such that it is conducive for good studying but he is old enough to know that not all children have it easy. if he understood that, he would NEVER make the comment about prison and newer secondary school. it’s a shame to make such statements. he is sheltered today who knows what his life will be like in the next 10/20 years when he would be on his own? heaven forbid but his very arrogance could lead him to make some really immature decisions too.

Though QC Boy was rather arrogant in his summary, he does raise some valid points. I will admit that quite a few people from QC, HC, St. Michael’s , Combermere, et al. do work hard while they see other out there playing & having fun. I’ve seen it personally, because I did it (studied) as well. I’m NOT saying that that is ALWAYS the case, but more often than not, this is the situation.

It depends on what priorities you choose to look at. Everybody makes mistakes, regardless of the school one went to . There are some who do well naturally, some who work at it, and some who just can’t cope. In reality it is survival of the fittest.

I wish it wasn’t, but it is.

The resources given to people also have an impact. Maybe QC in the semis had such a creative & tasty dish that it may have beaten the other schools. In cooking competitions, it’s NOT all about getting plated first. It’s also about WHAT you plate, HOW you plate it & ultimately, HOW TASTY it is at the end of the day! A cooking contest WITHOUT taste? Hmmmm…I think THAT may be more subversive than the “School Bias” classification!

But QC Boy, realize this…there ARE exceptions to the trend, and you have to recognise this. Not everyone who comes from an “older” school will be a genius, and not everyone who comes from a “newer” school will be a delinquent. There are folks of every type in BOTH schools, it is up to the individual to decide for themselves what they will do.

Education is one thing, but what use is it if you don’t apply it in the right way?

I await the backlash…. :D

The professional qualification for ALL teachers in ALL secondary schools is the Diploma in Education which is done at Erdiston or a similar qualification e.g PGCE (from the UK) DipEd (UWI). The other professional qualification is the Certificate in Teaching for Primary School teachers and the Certificate in Educational Management for senior teachers and administrators in all schools.

Not to say that Erdiston trained teachers are inferior of course.

One person or one school does not characterise a whole system. I challenge you to produce a notice of a vacancy in a “newer” secondary in the last ten years that was in any respect different than that for an “older” secondary school.

Anyone interested can check any of the notices in the press inviting applications for teaching posts. In yesterday’s Nation there was one such a notice for the Deighton Griffith School. The posts advertised were for teachers of French and Spanish, Art, Metal Work and Technical Drawing, and for Fine Arts. The required qualifications as stated are “Candidates should have a degree in the relevant subject area from an approved university or suitable advanced certification. Teacher training would be an asset.”

I think it very important that these silly and erroneous notions that the teaching staff at “newer” secondary schools are somehow less qualified, or are inferior in terms of certification than those at the “older” secondary schools be dispelled. Such myths contribute to the problem of motivating students to take the opportunities afforded them and to get the support of parents for these schools.

Come again Anonymous. Check with Gloria Green who teaches at St. Leonards. Ask her when she got her university degree. For your information, she got one in 2005 with with son. She is not yet 50.

I, personally, went to the library here last winter and borrowed tapes of a Shakespeare play and copied it to send to another of those partly qualified teachers who was teaching English Lit. at CXC. She wanted her students to hear the actual play. She either could not get a copy from the Ministry or the sound was bad. Dont know which. No degree. Richmonds Girl and then Erdiston.

The High Commission always send out news letters with the vacancies listed. Invariably the qualifications are lesser for the newer secondary schools.

try again. The regulations for appointment require that the teacher have a degree in the subject or a related degree e.g. someone with a degree in geology or environmental science may teach geography. The regulations apply to ALL schools. There may be a few teachers of many years service or a temporary teacher for which this may not apply but by and large MOST teachers in ALL schools have the same basic qualifications i.e a first degree in the subject or a related subject. The only groups of teachers as a rule who may not have a degree are the teachers of industrial arts and other vocational subjects as degrees in these fields were not previously available locally. This situation would obtain in ALL schools.

It is important to note that ALL schools are similar in terms of infrastructure, teachers, and curriculum and associated resources (labs, workshops, computers etc ). The difference in educational outcomes is related to the student intake but that is a story for another day.

No offence meant my friend. What I should have said was that the teachers be qualified in the subjects they teach. It still does not happen in all schools. I know personally of teachers in the newer secondary schools teaching CXC’s with high school and Erdiston, while in the older schools they require university graduates. Why should QC or HC have a graduate to teach English while The Garrison has to make do with some one from Princess Margarets or St. George Secondary who has a few CXCs and Erdiston?

Seems you need to check your Concordans and rightly divide the words.. LOL Be good friend!

Could it be you have muddied the waters here? How could you say that the older schools are only equipped to teach boys!?!

I pray that in the years to come your book knowledge will be complemented by common sense, social awareness, an ounce of humility and the ability to be recognise when to be silent. Without those you are no better than a walking encyclopedia…facts and no substance.

Do you know that Georgie Porgie is a doctor, and that he won a Barbados Exhibition, and that he made a contribution to National life.

As an ex QC boy, myself, I must agree with GP that the drivel that you are posting is an embarrassment to QC students!
I must agree with GP also that as a QC boy, so called, you ought to be exhibiting a much higher level of intelligence than you are doing on this forum.

Like GP, I also ask “Are you merely a clown? Or are you a whole circus?”

Your persistent ranting and raving is big embarrassment to QC students, and seems to indicate that you have no class, and just do not know how to behave. You are a very ignorant and arrogant twit!

When GP gets so annoyed as to tell you “Now shut up and go ask your momma to wash out your dirty mouth with blue soap!” that speaks volumes of what an irritant you are.

Answer: n_w_r secondary school folk.

Please fill in the above, if you newer secondary school folk have enough sense.
Hint 1: it is the vowel which comes between ‘a and i’.
Hint 2: It is the fifth letter of the English alphabet. Okay I know you still cant figure it out so Hint 3: It is the letter between ‘d’ and ‘f’.
well well well, Hint 4: Georgie Porgie has 3 insatnces of this letter in his name. Sorry ‘instance means occurrence’ sorry occurrence means repetitions sorry ok I tired the Letter is ‘e’…

And what if QC girls get abortions? at least they are putting their careers first and foremost and will get a child(ren) later when they are ready. You knwo what that is called? careful Planning for the future.i.e Common senses which you Georgie Porgie seem to be void of.

And to ‘Anonymous’, Have you ever heard the saying: it takes one to know one? Go figure…

As an ex HC boy, the drivel that you are posting is an embarrasment!

It is an embarrassment to all the QC girls that I associated with at Sunday School, in The Bus Stand limes in the 60’s, and those who came over to study Science & Maths, or join us in the performance of THE MARK OF THE GOAT in early 69.

BTW, any doctor who does abortions in Bim will tell you that QC girls get abortions too. A bet you didnt know that did you?

As a QC boy, so called, you ought to be exhibiting a much higher level of intellogence than you are doing on this forum.

Are you merely a clown? Or are you a whole circus?

And what on eareth is a QC boy any way? REAL BOYS GO TO HC LODGE CAWMERE CP BOYS FOUNDATION etc

Now shut up and go ask your momma to wash out your dirty mouth with bluie soap!

I believe that you are being deliberately mischievous and provocative (not even a QC student could be so stupid). By the way, as a QC “boy(?)” how do you feel about the fact that the school isn’t named Quee(r)n’s College for nothing?

‘observing’ you shouldnt get upset, there will always be stratifications and classism in the world. In fact this dates back to biblical times. But let us get serious and truthful and if we are to generalise, the majority of girls at newer secondary schools get pregnant sson after leaving school and the majority of boys end up running afoul of the law.
It is the reality so stop making exceptions and using it as the rule. QC students put in countless hours of work. I am on my way to getting a scholarship and i had to work hard. Why blame QC for these self-made underachievers?

P.S To ‘Anonymous’ one of the criteria you are tested on is critical thinking at CAPE, but then again you may not know because you are more than likely a product of the newer secondary school so you probably completed school after CXCs and ran afoul of the law.