Submitted by DLP Source
Leader of the Opposition Mia Mottley
The two of the most uncouth people known to the Barbadian people, in Mottley and Forde reportedly walked out of the last evenings National Independence Celebration event, this event is a National event and good manners would suggest more from them than this very poor showing of bad manners.
They walked out at the end of the entertainment program and as a mark of total disrespect to our Governor General and to the Forces on display at the event and even more so to the good people of Barbados who pay their salary, they left the venue of a National event in a huff and puff. I am really disappointed in their lack class or occasion this lot needs to put the politics aside at times such as these National events and show political maturity but not even that can they get done in the name of what is good for Barbados and its people.
I don’t know what prompted them to take offence but it was a clear message that they were unhappy with the evening and being there, National pride and a more mature politician would have made it their business to sit and observe the program to its conclusion.
I do not know what prompted them to walk out but the two of them chatted and were discussing something in the program booklet and then made a swift exit.
Member of Parliament Cynthia Forde
Good manners would dictate a different set of behaviour and a better show of manners, that is provided these persons understand what an evening like this represents and what it stands for. It was a most sad display of childish behaviour, as I just said to very good friend that this was a National event not a DLP or BLP one and something that should be supported across the political divide but thanks to the lack of political maturity and good sense Mottley and Forde threw good judgement thru the window and acted with a degree of selfishness that is indicative of an offensive politician.
My sincere advice to them both is to rethink their method of operation and refrain from their constant negativity and become more positive in their outlook and assist the Nation with being part of the solution rather than being part of the cause of the problem, a word to the wise is enough.
236 responses so far ↓
Anonymous // November 30, 2009 at 2:39 PM
I await a corroborating report.
Anonymous // November 30, 2009 at 8:16 PM
I hope they did walk out! And I hope these two in particular also walk right out of public life in Barbados altogether and let serious people get on with the business of building and uplifting this society!!
Anonymous // November 30, 2009 at 8:17 PM
Oh, and carry the other sour, cantakerous one along with them. The one up in the Senate.
Hartley Henry // November 30, 2009 at 11:21 PM
They probably left to go and play….TONK !
If I were Liz Thompson // November 30, 2009 at 11:22 PM
Cantakerous one along with them, who the foul mouthed one Liz Thompson?
She is a total and complete idiot, that Owing had to fire.
She is a political misfit who is only there because she one of the last of Mia’s girls but poltically she is shallow, empty and devoid of substance much like Mottley.
No STANDARDS // November 30, 2009 at 11:26 PM
I was not present at the Garrison yesterday but from the reports reaching me it was in very poor taste.
Then also someone asked me if I was crazy to expect any show of class from these two??
I guess my answer is now a certain NO.
David // November 30, 2009 at 11:52 PM
It makes sense if the BLP people offer an explanation to what exactly happened.
If I were Liz Thompson // December 1, 2009 at 12:32 AM
Sir where do you go to get that explanation ??
The public should be told what exactly riled them to depart.
Leave them to the public to judge them with the benefit of time.
David // December 1, 2009 at 12:39 AM
You guys probably think some of us are stupid. Are Barbadians suppose to sit and wait until answers to legit questions fall from heaven? The mickey mouse journalists obviously have you guys drunk with a false sense of who you are. Remember politicians/governments are suppose to be servants of the people. May read as being naive but that’s how it is suppose to work.
Anon // December 1, 2009 at 5:26 AM
David, I agree. It is disgraceful. There are certain customs and precedents that govern the conduct of ALL of us, not just people in government office, but especially them. It is highly improper to leave any function or gathering, far less an official one, before the Governor-General has departed. If these two total idiots cannot accept and conform to that, then let them get the hell out of office.
Barbados’ Independence and the celebration of it is not about politics or any political party. It is about the birth of a Nation. It transcends petty political party matters. We must not allow it to be used as a means of registering political dissent by a bunch of idiots with no type of manners at all. That they did this shows lamentable and discreditable judgment of the sort that makes them totally unsuited and unfit for any kind of high office in ANY country.
The simple question, therefore, is: Do we want our country to be ruled and our children to be influenced by these ill-mannered thugs?
Let us get rid of them from the high offices of our country. Let us show them that this sort of gutter behaviour will not be tolerated. And if the press does not roundly censure them, then let us boycot the press. Just don’t buy no papers for a couple of months. That will put paid to their illusion of superiority of the fourth estate. Although “fourth estate” in terms of the Barbados press is a joke.
V O Reason // December 1, 2009 at 10:01 AM
Don’t jump the gun!! This is a democracy so let’s first hear their reason behind the walk-out. It’s all politics, after all.
Sylvan Greenidge // December 1, 2009 at 10:17 AM
Don’t worry Hartley, once they did not leave to sexually molest any of the female police officers on duty or accept a bribe from some corrupt politician they will be all right.
David, the BU you family can be assured of a FULL report on this matter.
Wishing In Vain // December 1, 2009 at 10:46 AM
I am amazed that two senior members of the BLP would not know how to gehave themselves at an official function such as this was.
Independence for the BLP has always been a sore subject and it appears that even in 2009 it continues to haunt them and their leadership.
Very, Very Sad.
AKA Sylvan Greenidge AKA Parro In A Suit, there can be no explanation worth offering for your bad showing of poor manners, you and your lot are totally disrespectful to our countries values and our people.
Adrian Hinds // December 1, 2009 at 10:51 AM
Walking out of parliament, walking out on other important occasions, has now become a best practice of the political class. Nevertheless, this is a bajan past time is it not? We as a people walk of the job almost daily. Who are we to tell Mia Mottley to endure something she does not like? The other side to this is that there is no leadership on productivity and labor relations in Barbados. Can you imagine Mia Mottley or David Thompson admonishing Barbadians for the ease with which they walk of the job? Oh yes we are all of the kind that adheres to the dictum “Do as I say, not as I do.”
However if Mia suffers politically for her actions, I will still be a happy man. :)
V O Reason // December 1, 2009 at 10:52 AM
HELLO…..Any BLP supporters out there? Come on man, defend your leaders!!!
Alex Fergusson // December 1, 2009 at 11:36 AM
Here is your real issue:
The day after Deputy Prime Minister Stuart accused Barbadians of feting too much, a creme de la creme fete was being held in the car park at Illaro Court, under the patronage of Prime Minister Thompson.
How could Mr. Stuart talk about too uch fete, when the same DLP was swept to office on a Luciana fete at Oistins?
Look at the big DLP carnival/fete in St. Philip.
Let me bring it closer!
The DLP has transformed a traditional, dignified Independence Parade into along drawn-out expensive bashment fete.
How much did this year’s event (fire works and all) cost the same taxpayers who cannot get back their income tax returns?
The real issue is that Barbados’ traditional Independence Parade has been transformed into a bashment fete, where as part of the fatted calf, people are being paid for lights, stage, coordination, sound, stage- management and expensive fire works.
Here is the real question:
HOW MUCH WILL THIS STATE FETE COST THE TAXPAYERS?
This points to the hypocracy of Stuart telling Barbadians that they fete too much.
If he has a problem with the number of fetes Thompson is holding at Illaro Court – then he should say so.
Adrian Hinds // December 1, 2009 at 12:05 PM
Tell them Alex Fergusson. Everything you said is equally shared by the BLP.
However some people may argue that the DLP has to complete 14 years in government to fete, wine, and dine bajans into a forgetful stupor of what economic difficulties are before us.
Yet so far I have seen the PM being Frank and opened about the economy, unlike Owen and Mia who blamed the US for not putting their economic house in order.
Don’t forget that the BLP entered into a countercyclical program to combat the global economic fallout from 9/11 2001; 3 to 4 years later they continued the program of government spending (keynesian approach to a downturn) inspite of warnings from the IMF as contained in their 2004 consultation.
Government spending continued after that, along with consumer spending, putting pressure on our foreign reserves. The BLP sold BNB, I think ICB to shore up reserves and put restrictions on consumer spending by way of a “SESS”.
In 2007 spending went through the roof by dipping into the INS.
All the while bajans saw increases in spending on kadooment, etc. and other national events.
Negroman // December 1, 2009 at 12:25 PM
It is a national disgrace that our Opposition leader can see it fit to walk out of an official activity celebrating our so-called independence.I have serious reservations about independence, but as a simple Barbadian I would never walk out on any official activity celebrating our independence.
I worked at the Independence activity in an official capacity and I saw when Mia Mottley arrived, but I did not see her left.It was a surprise when I heard about this apparent walk out.If it did occurred,it is reprehensible on the part of Mia Mottley and Cynthia Forde and their actions must be censored in the strongest possible way.I linked that type of behavior to Treason.By the virtues of her actions Mia Motley should be removed immediately as the official leader of our opposition in our parliament.She is not fit to be in that position.What are the messages being sent to our children?
I never supported walking out by any of the political parties in Barbados.I see no justification for it.It is childish and sends a negative messsage.I believe that our so-called leaders should be able to take pressure and not operate like wimps when the heat is turn on and run away like chickens.Unfortunately,the political clowns we have masquerading as politicians behave in that childish manner.
Mia Mottley like our former Prime Minister Owen Arthur has insulted the high offices that unfortunately for Barbados those 2coundrels has & had the honour or dishonour of holding.
If the allegation of walking out on the official function is true,Mia Mottley has disqualified herself from ever becoming Prime Minister of Barbados. Barbados does not need a national disgrace like Mia Mottley to be our Prime Minister.
Alex Fergusson // December 1, 2009 at 12:41 PM
The DLP – Barbados’ New Promoter of State Fete.
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Fête is a French word meaning festival, celebration or party.
Isn’t it true that the DLP has transformed our traditional, dignified ceremonial parade into a fete?
That being the case, aren’t Freundel Stuart’s comments that Barbadians are feting too much: “pure hypocrisy and silly,” especially since his Government is the biggest promoter of fetes: Crop Over and now Independence Parade?
Is it not true that the DLP came to office on a Luciana fete and that because the DLP does not know what it is doing – it is using leisure and fetes to hide its obvious incompetence?
In the same way that the DLP has transformed Independence Parade into an expensive State fete, Illaro Court is now the staging venue for State sanctioned fetes.
Adrian Hinds // December 1, 2009 at 12:42 PM
I can see a DLP election slogan now.
Mia walked out on your birthday. Time to walk away from her.
Alex Fergusson // December 1, 2009 at 12:52 PM
Adrian Hinds, how much did this DLP State santioned fete cost the taxpayers at a time when they cannot get their Income Tax Returns.
What is the total cost of:
the air conditioned toilets for brandname people, the chairs, the tents, the high-powered lights, the chemical toilets for the poor people, plus the cost of the band and the fireworks?
JC // December 1, 2009 at 1:04 PM
Thanks for reminding them AH. They work for LIME; selective memory choice! LOLOLOLOL
Alex Fergusson // December 1, 2009 at 1:11 PM
Like overstretched Barbadian families who are buckling under the weight of the DLP economic whip, small businesses and companies across this country are also groaning under the weight of the DLP’s rule and the fear that unless something happens soon – they too will not be able to survive the high and burdensome taxation imposed by the ruling party.
But as the Government positions itself to impose even more taxes, a troubling question hangs over Barbados: has this country seen the worst of the DLP’ dangerous mismanagement, or should we brace for even greater and more devastating after shocks.
For the moment, at least, Barbadians are watching in absolute fear – helpless to protect what little they have left from being confiscated by the DLP, as new taxes.
Barbadians are living in dread not knowing what might be lurking in the dark, while living in absolute shock and disbelief at what the DLP has turned out to be.
The harmful effect of the measures introduced in Mr. Thompson’s inflationary 2008 budget – is now being felt.
But even as Barbadians start to make the adjustment, there are alerted to the reality that they have to prepare for a second wave of hardship, and are nervously aware of their exposure to a Government that does not know what it is doing.
From St. John to St. Lucy, the cry from the people is the same: the DLP does not know what it is doing.
There are no assurances or no evidence that the Government has what it takes to get this country out of this mess, which it has placed it in.
The ruling party has set a very bad precedent, which future Government would do well not to follow.
Barbadians now have good reasons to be worried.
They are aware that at some point in 2010, more people will loose their jobs and things will get much worst.
So much for the alleged, “Pathway to Progress.”
Brace yourself; the ride is going to get bumpier
David // December 1, 2009 at 1:35 PM
@BLP side
Let’s all be clear; are you saying the leader of the Opposition and Forde MP left the function early because they felt the program was a fete not keeping with the occasion?
Sylvan Greenidge // December 1, 2009 at 1:39 PM
The pride and glory once associated with our Independence Parade has now been vulgarized by the bashment culture promoted by the DLP.
Let me from the outset say how please I am at the number of Barbadians who continue to call our office, send emails and text messages expressing their desire that the opposition BLP stay clear of anything being planned and executed by the DLP. Barbadians are of the view that this government is digging its own political grave and they would not want the BLP to be part of their demise.
Now to the matter at hand.
Independence Day in Barbados is a Bank Holiday. One of the celebrated events on our calendar and any sitting MP or candidate of some political worth use that day to attend the many organized community events within their respective constituencies. The more popular the candidate or MP the more events they will have to attend – they would be foolish not to. Another important factor to bear in mind is the fact that most of these functions are planned for the evening. Both Mia Mottley and Cynthia Forde are two very popular community MPs.
Planners of events on Independence Day or any other Bank Holiday most take into account the fact that these events would have to compete with events planned by community groups for the MP’s time. Such national events must therefore be planned to precision. Herein lies the problem with the just concluded Independence Day Parade.
This year’s attendees were very dissatisfied with the poor planning done. I am reliably informed that raging from the poor quality of the PA system to the poor choreography of the dance pieces all string together to make the evening’s event a disaster.
The bandleader of the Merrymen had to apologize to the audience because he learnt during his first song that the audience could hear nothing he was singing. He confessed that he could not even hear himself. The dancers performed some movements that not even they themselves understood the significance and so the dance failed to make any impression on the audience.
Members of the organizing team, who will remain nameless, admitted that there was no grand rehearsal for the event so as to tighten up the evening’s proceedings and this led to an implosion of the entertainment section of the Parade 45 minutes ahead of schedule. For 45 minutes persons mingled aimlessly around not knowing what to do or what was happening next.
It is at this point that Ms. Mottley, Ms. Forde and other persons took the opportunity to leave and attend other functions planned for their communities. The timing of their departure was well planned in that it occurred at the end of the embarrassing entertainment session and 45minutes before the arrival of the Governor General to officially start the parade.
Once again the DLP has demonstrated that they lack the capacity to plan even the simplest of functions without complicating or bastardizing the purpose. Had it not been for the DLP’s attempt to turn this event into a bashment session, our Parade would have flowed well and timely and all those in attendance would have cause to sit in full rap with what was going on. But that was not to be.
The real highlight of the evening though was not the departure of Ms. Mottley, Ms. Forde and others, oh no. It was the apparent refusal of the PM to stand in acknowledgement of the Colours as the parade passed the Govenor General and other invitees. Word on the ground is that even with a passionate plea from the presenter, the PM refused to stand in honour of the parade of the Colours and in an attempt not to cause him any embarrassment the other members sitting in the same row as he remained sitting as well. All other attendees stood in humble but proud recognition of the Colours as our men of honour paraded.
This does not surprise me. What do you expect from an Englishmen who is still obviously angry that a black small nation like Barbados could think itself worthy and independent to stand on its own and denounce the former colonial masters and their system of governance, a system into which he was born, socialized and is firmly grounded. I declare that the Independence Day fiasco is not about Ms. Mottley or Ms. Forde – it is about a drowning political party and the straws that they are clutching to.
David // December 1, 2009 at 1:54 PM
@Sylvan
Thanks for the BLP view, a couple of questions.
Why can’t you name the organizing committee?
Are you saying the organizers would not have communicated with Mottley and other VIPs or at least facilitated exchanges to synchronize schedules?
Do you believe at the height of a recession where our economy is precariously perched this should be a conversation we are having?
Alex Fergusson // December 1, 2009 at 2:10 PM
I agree with Mr. Sylvan Greenidge:
“Once again the DLP has demonstrated that they lack the capacity to plan even the simplest of functions without complicating or bastardizing the purpose.
Had it not been for the DLP’s attempt to turn this event into a bashment session, our Parade would have flowed well and timely and all those in attendance would have cause to sit in full rap with what was going on.
But that was not to be.”
It is why the DLP is now catching at straws, while Barbados continues to plunge on its free fall from prosperity to crisis.
Mottley a Disgrace. // December 1, 2009 at 2:40 PM
We are now told by the idiot the mouth piece of the blp that they left, this is utterly disgraceful act and a lack of class or breeding.
There you have it folks, a confirmation they actually walked out on this National staged event, how sad a people.
Sylvan Greenidge // December 1, 2009 at 2:42 PM
The MerryMen played in the National interest my friends, they were invited and they gave of their time in National service so unlike Mottley and Forde.
Anonymous // December 1, 2009 at 2:42 PM
Lots of red herrings. Haven’t you all not realised that your days are over!
Sylvan Greenidge please stop it!
Anonymous // December 1, 2009 at 2:44 PM
These are hopeless cases with no pride in nationhood
V O Reason // December 1, 2009 at 2:48 PM
Time constraints must have played a part in Ms. Mottley’s untimely departure. However, was it bad manners, or just plain old” fedupness” with the poorly organized function?
I do agree with David… why at a time when the nation’s economy, and general well being of it’s citizens hang in the balance is this such a big issue?
Alex Fergusson // December 1, 2009 at 2:51 PM
The real issue is that Barbados’ traditional Independence Parade has been transformed into a bashment fete, where as part of the fatted calf, people are being paid for air conditioned toilets; lights, tents, chairs, stage, coordination, sound, stage- management and expensive fire works
Sylvan Greenidge // December 1, 2009 at 2:54 PM
David, I am happy to respond to your questions
1. To say too much about the problems associated with the planning of the bashment session of the Parade and its eventual implosion would reveal the names of the persons who raised certain issues with me. I prefer to deal with the message rather than the messenger.
2. How do you communicate the planning defects in your entertainment package that will bring comfort to your guest? To start with any event that includes the attendance of the Governor General is expected to be airtight and well executed. No delays are expected and so there is no need to prompt or communicate with the guest. The program planned must begin from the understanding that the GG and other guest are important but more importantly very busy people. Forty-five minutes milling around is a no no for busy people. Not acceptable.
I agree with you. At the height of a recession this is not a debate that should seriously be engaging our attention. That is why I said in my comment that the debate was not about Ms. Mottley or Ms. Forde but rather about a drowning political party and the straws that they are clutching to.
David // December 1, 2009 at 3:11 PM
If BU were Mottley’s PR Consultant, Publicist or Political Strategist, we would say to her ‘be very careful of your actions’ but importantly don’t forget there is a centipede in your bed.
Alex Fergusson // December 1, 2009 at 3:41 PM
DLP Shames Mr. Barrow on Independence Day
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In his Mirror Image Speech, which came many years after George Herbert Meade’s Interactualism theory – Mr. Barrow is quoted as having said:
“The DLP has an image that the people of Barbados would be able run their own affairs, to pay for the cost of running their own country to have an education system which is as good as what can be obtained in any industrialized country anywhere in the world.”
Instead of focusing on the tribalism of the Independence Parade and it being D’minished into a bashment fete by the DLP – let us discuss just how far the DLP – under Thompson, has moved away from Mr. Barrow’s vision.
For one, Mr. Thompson now looks to the President of the United States and the Prime Minister of Britain to run their country well , in order for him to be able to pay our bills in Barbados.
Thompson also blames his dangerous mis-management of the Barbados economy on a global financial crisis.
Mr. Barrow would be alarmed.
Mr. Thompson then says that Barbadians are too educated.
What a sad let down of Mr. Barrow’s legacy as outlined in his “mirror image speech.”
Could you imagine Independence Parade becoming a bashment fete if Mr. Barrow was alive?
Negroman // December 1, 2009 at 3:49 PM
Sylvan Greenidge & Alex Fergusson
Many Barbadians unlike what one of your former leaders the late Grantley Adams said about Barbadians having short memories,many of us remembered it is the Barbados Labour Party that started the bashment culture that is now being associated with national activities.
I can still remember the 1999 & 2003 general elections in Barbados where the government of the Barbados Labour Party had massive fetes during those election periods.I remembered the massive fetes in Carlisle Carpark in Bridgetown in 1999 & 2003 .The Barbados Labour Party was the first political party in the recent history of Barbados that paid mega bucks to bring international artistes into Barbados to help in their elections.
Alex Fergusson & Sylvan Greenidge,please do not insult Barbadians with the nonsense that is being posted from the 2 political lackeys & yard dogs that the 2 of you all are.
The whole of the Independence Programme was well executed and generally went as scheduled.There were a few minor problems that usually occur at any major function.
Sylvan Grenidge,it is a total lie that our Prime Minister refused to stand up and pay respect to the colours of the representative groups.Our Prime Minister was briefed on protocol and he was aware of the format of the programme.In the event that protocol was not being adhere to,there was the parade commander prompting all invited guest and the general public when to stand up and when to sit down and generally gave guidance to all in attendance
Sylvan Greenidge,you are a real parro in suit being ask like a true parro to perform the nasty deals of others.Parros steal,beg and subject themselves to the most despicable acts imaginable just to get a little something to eat or support their drug habit.Sylvan Greenidge,you are acting likewise,being ask by your masters to come on this blog to tell lies,distort facts and make a nuisance of yourself.Sylvan Greenidge,please have some pride in yourself and do not allow a discredited who will never be the Prime Minister of Barbados.,the weirdo & freak Mia Mottley and her clan to reduce a working class brother like yourself to the level that you are presently at.Would Mia Mottley and her middle class,privilege group ask a member from her class & background to do her nasty work?
Ordinary Black working class poor Barbadians have allowed themselves to be used & abused by Errol Barrow Grantley Adams,Tom Adams Mia Mottley,David Thompson,Richard Sealy & people of their ilk.
Alex Fergusson // December 1, 2009 at 4:11 PM
Here is Mr. Barrow’s vision for Barbados:
“The DLP has an image that the people of Barbados would be able run their own affairs, to pay for the cost of running their own country”
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Tell me then, how does a global financial crisis prevents Barbadians from getting their Income Tax Returns?
How does the global financial crisis prvent the Barbados economy from growing – when the Guyana economy grew by 3.8% last years and will grow by 2.5% this year?
How does a global financial crisis be blame for an unemployment rate of 10.5% in Barbados when Trinidad is in a recession but the unemployment rate there is a mere 5.1%?
These are the real issues!!!
The dangerous mis-management of the Barbados economy by the DLP, which does not know what it is doing.
Alex Fergusson // December 1, 2009 at 4:25 PM
Negroman,
Yours is a trademark DLP non-point.
The issue is that Deputy Prime Minister Freundel Stuart said on Friday that Barbadians are feting too much.
The day after, a bashment fete called: crème de la crème was being held in the car park of Illaro Court, under the patronage of the Prime Minister.
Three days after Mr. Stuart told Barbadians that they are feting too much, his Government was D’minishing a dignified, traditional ceremonial Independence Parade into a costly bashment fete – at a time when Barbadians are pleading with his Government to please give them their Income Tax Return.
Let me put that another way. While the DLP is refusing to give Barbadians their Income Tax Return, it had costly air-conditioned toilets at the Garrison, for DLP Ministers to pee in.
Talk about reckless extravagance and misuse of the taxpayer’s money.
That the DLP would refuse to give people their Income Tax return but would use taxpayer’s money on a fete and to pay for air conditioned toilets for DLP Ministers to pee in – is a national disgrace.
Negroman, tell us, how much the Independence bashment Fete cost – the same taxpayer’s who cannot get their Income Tax Returns but who were not allowed to pee in those air conditioned toilets that were there for DLP Ministers.
Alex Fergusson // December 1, 2009 at 4:35 PM
Things are so tight that between now and March 31st 2010, all the DLP will be able to do is pay salaries and wages, NIS contributions, utilities and office rent.
It has already cut the amount allocated to Ministries and department by 2.5% and next financial year, it will have to make even more drastic cuts.
The simple point I am trying to make it that since it will not reverse it flawed economic taxation policies, the DLP is merely holding on to power to allow itself more time to feed at the trough.
But all it is doing is causing Barbadians unnecessary economic pain and putting this country in a much deeper hole, as a result of its “dangerous mis-management” of the Barbados economy.
I say to the DLP: “GIVE BARBADIANSD A CHANGE.”
“You have sat too long for any good you have been doing. Depart, I say, and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!”
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Call elections and give Barbadians a chance.
Negroman // December 1, 2009 at 5:02 PM
Alex Fergusson
You & Sylvan Greenidge have smartly shifted the topic being discuss on the walk out of Mia Mottley & Cynthia Forde from our national independence programme.
Mia Mottley & Cynthia Forde actions are reprehensible & must be denounced in the strongest possible manner.
Alex Fergusson,Your Truly had the privilege of urinating in one of the air-conditioned chemical toilets and I am a poor,simple normal working class Black Barbadian.Why are you nit-picking at non-issues.I visited Ilaro Court on many occasions during the Barbados Labour Party reign and fancy air-conditioned chemical toilets were also provided.What is your point.I will repeat again,do not come on this blog and talk foolishness and try to convey the wrong impression.Would you like our Governor General who I personally do not give a damn about nor his position,but I have to respect his present post which is so contradictory to the concept of independence,if he wanted to use bathroom facilities be provided with a makeshift,unsanitary toilet.How about the specially invited overseas diplomats & dignitaries.
Alex Fergusson,please spare us Barbadians.You are posting your usually drivel.
Lastly, Alex Fergusson,the Barbados Labour Party is not in any position to talk about wastage.GEMS Project,Hardwood Housing,3S,Al Barrack & the government offices in Warrens,the 1 million dollar bathroom facilities at Silver Sand.I could go on & on.
Alex Fergusson,the Barbados Labour Party is not in any moral position to castigate the Democratic Labour Party on any issue especially when it comes to wastage of the taxpayers money.The Barbados Labour Party & Mia Mottley in particular are suffering from moralilty paralysis.
Micah // December 1, 2009 at 5:10 PM
I have no political agenda to put forward. But right is right and reasonable is reasonable. The justification advanced by Sylvan Greenidge to explain the reported absence of the Leader of the Opposition(LOTO) and a sitting Member of Parliament(MP) from a National Ceremony to celebrate the Independence of our country, and an event being presided over by the Governor-General, is feeble at best, and ridiculous at worst. I would perhaps understand if they were absent from the “entertainment” part of the event.While I may excuse the MP, the absence of the LOTO from the ceremomial part of the event for the reasons advanced by Sylvan Greenidge is, in my view, not reasonable. I hope the LOTO will see the need to make a public statement of some sort to clarify this issue of her reported behaviour at the Independence Parade for the people of Barbados.
Christopher Halsall // December 1, 2009 at 5:34 PM
@BU Family et al…
Please forgive me for this, for I am a Stranger in a *very* Strange Land…
But can someone please explain to me et al why the language used to describe the behaviour of Politicians here in Barbados seems to be in direct parallel with the language used to describe the behaviour of *very* young children?
David // December 1, 2009 at 5:47 PM
Well said Negroman.
Gracie // December 1, 2009 at 6:52 PM
Can anyone tell me if there is still a Minister of Environment. If there is could someone please alert him to the untidy state of the highway leading towards the airport. Bush everywhere, broken lights lying on the ground, signs hidden by the bush and in dire need of replacement. Come on where is the pride. Spend thousands of dollars on feting and fireworks and the place is so dirty and untidy.
Christopher Halsall // December 1, 2009 at 7:13 PM
[Halsall turns to the audience and asks:]
It’s a bit strange, isn’t it?
Ask a very simple question, and then suddenly the dialogue stops…
It is almost like we all want to talk and talk and talk… Right up until the “talk” gets serious…
And then most of us want to run away… Run away… Run away…
God forbid anyone have the Balls to stand behind what they Believe….
God No!
That would involve taking a risk.
And we all know Bajans don’t take risks… They instead expect others to do so on their behalf (but they’re more than happy to collect on the upside…).
Gracie // December 1, 2009 at 7:23 PM
Christopher
Because they are all a bunch of adults who behave like 5 year olds and the yardfowls spend time discussing drivel as to who walked out from where and why.
WOG // December 1, 2009 at 7:48 PM
If the walk out is for real then maybe Owen was prescient in his comments a couple of weeks ago about suitability & acceptability etc, secondly ever wonder why our young people behave the way they do. Could it be because the “leaders” who they view as role models and successful are really nothing more than fine examples of bombast, bad attitude, indiscipline, illogic, lacking etiquette, ethics, vision or statesmanship. Wasn’t this event videotaped by CBC or other media, what about the owners of those expensive cell phones with cameras …certainly the BU family can’t be the only ones on the rock who saw and are outraged by the disrespect and ignorance that a walk out by the peoples’ representatives would demonstrate. Why is video of the “walk out” and the footage of the minutes immediately before it not up on CBC & YouTube?
Christopher Halsall // December 1, 2009 at 7:53 PM
@BU.David…
Cluck… Cluck…
What says you to the above?
(We *know* you are observing….)
Checkit-Out // December 1, 2009 at 8:00 PM
This seems like a non-issue to me based on the spurious claims made by both the DLP and BLP protagonists.
Lets assume that Ms. Mottley and Ms. Forde did indeed leave the gala before the Governor General officially arrived. Is that matter so reprehensible and of such import to disqualify them from future public office as some DLP protagonists have tried to claim? How serious is that “gaffe” on a scale from 0 to 10?
Are we now proposing a new tradition for Barbados, but one that was apparently entrenched in Forbes Burnham’s Guyana, that official permission had to be given for an invitee to leave an official function before the guest of honour left? How many of you know that anyone leaving even a private party before Burnham did was subject to severe sanctions? Should we be going down that path?
I am willing to bet that many of those who have cried foul because of the reported actions of Ms. Mottley and Ms. Forde, have themselves left official functions before the guest of honour left (whether it was the Governor General or PM or a Minister of Government) because they had other appointments and that they did not seek to get permission to leave.
I agree that it appears to be protocol that no one should leave a function before the GG leaves. But does the type of function matter as far as this protocol might be concerned? Is a fete-type party on the same standing as the opening of parliament? or a function at Government house where national honours are bestowed?
Is the mere presence of the Governor General at a function a good reason for denying persons their right to leave a function at anytime they choose? Should the car parks be closed (with attendees cars inside) until the GG leaves a function?
The BLP spokesmen re. the issue threw a lot of red-herrings in the ling. both BLP and DLP have been using bashment type party occasions to attract crowds and the use of this strategy by the DLP now for a national occasion is not a reasonable justification for a “walkout” if that is what actually occurred.
It seems to me that Ms. Mottley and Ms. Forde should just let this matter die a natural death.
It is a non issue of no import, flagged to get people on this blog to ventilate political matters of dubious connection with it and hoping that they stick with some voters in the next elections and perhaps also, even to divert people from discussing serious matters.
David // December 1, 2009 at 8:11 PM
@Chris
The noise in the channel is loudest during the 9AM-5PM :-)
Agree with Checkit-out that this submission is meant to show Mottley in a bad light. That being the case Mottley as leader in waiting MUST be judicious in her public utterances and actions or suffer the consequences.
Enuff // December 1, 2009 at 8:27 PM
Thank you Checkit-Out.
Christopher Halsall // December 1, 2009 at 8:28 PM
@BU.David…
Thank you for your *very* interesting response…
From your immediate above, might it also be true that Mr. Thompson, as leader in power, must *also* “be judicious in [his] public utterances and actions or suffer the consequences”?
Please advise.
Sylvan Greenidge // December 1, 2009 at 8:29 PM
Micah you may better understand the point I made if you do some investigation for yourself. Find out if it wasn’t Thompson, while he was Opposition Leader that said that he was not going to attend ceremonial functions if there were events taking place in his constituency? No one attack Thompson at the time for taking that position because we all accept that on such occasions constituency representatives will be press for time to attend the many functions planned for the occasion and to simply be among their constituents.
Secondly, none of the guest attending the Parade knew before hand or expected the kind entertainment presented, so that none of them could have made the determination as to what session they would have attended. Now clearly it may have been communicated to the GG and that may explain why he was scheduled to attend two hours after the 8.30 pm start. I don’t see how they could have asked the GG to sit through that barrage of foolishness that passed for entertainment.
Had it been communicated to Ms. Mottley and Ms. Forde and some of the other guest that left, that there would have been this bashment thing at 8.30 to be followed by the real Parade, then I am sure they would have altered their engagements – they would have been there for the real Parade. The bashment session was the first of its kind in the Parade. Never before has this happened and that is why I began my first comment with the statement that the pride and glory of our Parade has now been vulgarized.
David // December 1, 2009 at 8:33 PM
@Chris
The same applies to Thompson but bear in mind this is no zero sum game, we have some soft issues on the perception index to consider.
Christopher Halsall // December 1, 2009 at 8:47 PM
@David: “The same applies to Thompson but bear in mind this is no zero sum game, we have some soft issues on the perception index to consider.
OK… Can we please go “high-bandwidth”?
Can *anyone* tell us:
1. Was there an “official” agenda of the events which *actually* occurred provided to *all* participants before hand?
1.1. If Yes, was this agenda actually followed?
2. Since xxxx.11.30 is the anniversary of Barbados’ Independence, one might have thought that both the Party in Power and those Parties in Opposition would be able to stand tall in what we have accomplished.
Obviously I’m idealistically naive…
Instead those in power try to take advantage of this for their own upside, and those in opposition pull a hissy fit and walk out…
Sigh….
Wishing In Vain // December 1, 2009 at 9:07 PM
If BU were Mottley’s PR Consultant, Publicist or Political Strategist, we would say to her ‘be very careful of your actions’ but importantly don’t forget there is a centipede in your bed.
What Centipede you really mean a full grown VIPER On See Thru Rum.
Christopher Halsall // December 1, 2009 at 9:15 PM
@WIV…
Please correct me if I’m wrong…
But you refused to answer my questions to you about the DLP’s plans for the promised FOIA recently…
So what would BU’s PR Consultant advise on this matter?
Wishing In Vain // December 1, 2009 at 9:16 PM
There can be nothing more to say on this matter, the facts are that the two misfits were there and THEY WALKED OUT END OF STORY, there can be no defence of actions such as these, therefore the two are guilty as charged it is up to the public to sentence the two guilty convicts.
AKA Sylvan Greenidge AKA Parro In A Suit, there can be no explanation worth offering for your bad showing of poor manners, you and your lot are totally disrespectful to our countries values and our people.
Wishing In Vain // December 1, 2009 at 9:19 PM
Halsall,
Once again may I inform you that nothing you write I take seriously, this is no different.
Christopher Halsall // December 1, 2009 at 9:23 PM
@WIV: “Once again may I inform you that nothing you write I take seriously, this is no different.
Yeah… Right…
Or, perhaps, I ask questions you’re not comfortable answering…
Hmmm….
Wishing In Vain // December 1, 2009 at 9:38 PM
The question must be would Owing have walked out of a National events as this one was???
Checkit-Out // December 1, 2009 at 10:01 PM
WIV
Another question might be; Is it possible, or even likely, that the late Errol Barrow, in opposition, given his acerbic, patrician temperament, might have left a function of this type prematurely after sitting through 2 hours of reportedly uneven entertainment?
Another one might be; Was Owen there? and if not, why not?
Another one might be; How many other dignitaries (Politicians of any stripe and Others) left the function around that time?
It seems clear that you are trying to make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear and seem to be succeeding with your troops.
Congrats
Christopher Halsall // December 1, 2009 at 10:06 PM
@WIV…
Or, perhaps, put another way…
Would Owing have been stupid enough to promise something in absolute terms what he never intended to deliver on?
Wishing In Vain // December 1, 2009 at 11:05 PM
Funny how the 15,000 found the program worthy to stand and watch for the entire presentation but neither Mottley nor Forde could sit for two hours to watch it !!!
These are jokers of the highest order.
Christopher Halsall // December 1, 2009 at 11:10 PM
@WIV…
FOIA? FOIA? FOIA?
It is easy to get 15,000 cattle to stand around chewing their own cud…
Care to speak about the promised FOIA?
Or is that “inconvenient” to talk about?
Wishing In Vain // December 1, 2009 at 11:12 PM
they would have been there for the real Parade.
Come on clown this year was repeart a reenactment of the 30 th Nov 1966 did it happen at 8.30 pm last year or did it happen at 8.30 pm on the 30 th Nov 1966 ?
You complete Idiot Greenidge your clowns would never have expected to be finished until after 1.00 am on the following morning, you are really a poor liar coupled with being an even bigger idiot.
Then again I would excuse you for not knowing that none of your people were there last year to represent the blp at this national function, made even more sad that they refused to be present this year when one of their own was awarded.
Wishing In Vain // December 1, 2009 at 11:15 PM
David has the circus lost one of its clowns ??
Wishing In Vain // December 1, 2009 at 11:22 PM
As I said before it do not normally respond to this Halsall person but I find his comment above deeply offensive,
It is easy to get 15,000 cattle to stand around chewing their own cud…
What I find offensive about the comment is why does this person choose to insult Barbadians by describing we Barbadians as Cows ??
Who the hell does he think he is to describe Barbadians as Cows, with a name like Halsall I doubt very much that this is a Bajan name and if I were he I would be more respectful to Barbadians after all we live here and we allow others the opportunity to do so in harmony, we are not cows and Halsall a person.
Christopher Halsall // December 1, 2009 at 11:28 PM
Ah ha!!! I finally got WIV mad enough to acknowledge me!
Now, will he answer my most basic question?
What about the ***PROMISED*** FOIA?
Mooo?
Wishing In Vain // December 1, 2009 at 11:43 PM
As I said before it do not normally respond to this Halsall person but I find his comment above deeply offensive,
It is easy to get 15,000 cattle to stand around chewing their own cud
What I find offensive about the comment is why does this person choose to insult Barbadians by describing we Barbadians as Cows ??
Who the hell does he think he is to describe Barbadians as Cows, with a name like Halsall I doubt very much that this is a Bajan name and if I were he I would be more respectful to Barbadians after all we live here and we allow others the opportunity to do so in harmony, we are not cows and Halsall a person.
Wishing In Vain // December 1, 2009 at 11:48 PM
How dare you have the gall to call the Barbadian people that play host to you 15,000 Cows you are more of an idiot that I first rated you for.
You should be ashamed of what you wrote above you are a classless offensive person.
Christopher Halsall // December 1, 2009 at 11:55 PM
@WIV…
I’m a Bajan, you f’ing idiot…
Care to speak about the promised FOIA?
Moooo….
Wishing In Vain // December 2, 2009 at 12:06 AM
I did say that You should be ashamed of what you wrote above you are a classless offensive person and
showing your classlessness more by the minute.
Get a life you offensive one.
If you fail to understand your offensive comment it really is quite a sad state of affairs for you, but may I remind you that the 15,000 persons that attended the ceremony are not COWS as you would like to suggest but people just like you and I and you are totally out of order to suggest that they are cows to have attended this ceremony. DUN WID DAT DUN WID YOU .
Christopher Halsall // December 2, 2009 at 12:21 AM
Mooo? (Translation: Care to speak about the promised FOIA?)
Mooo? (Translation: Or are we, the electorate, supposed to simply accept what we’re given?
Mooo? (Translation: What says you, self-claimed DLP insider?)
Mooo…. (Translation: [self explanatory...])
Wishing In Vain // December 2, 2009 at 12:39 AM
Why would you consider yourself so extra special to be given any information prior to the rest of the nation least so after calling Barbadians COWS you twit.
You will get yours when it is time to get yours maybe you will be able to read about it on BU, there is nothing special or endearing about yourself to anyone so expect no special treatment!
sylvan // December 2, 2009 at 12:39 AM
sylvan greenidge… go and get a life, you clown. you pimp. you illiterate. i pity you, you pathetic BLP asslicker. you vex because the Dems aint noticing you. stop sending messages to the DLP that you want a job and that you would support the government if they give you a job. deny it, you fool, because you got to be shame but i got to expose people like you.
Christopher Halsall // December 2, 2009 at 12:53 AM
@WIV…
I find your fake outrage less than amusing…
I, and *many* others, find the broken promises of the FOIA et al even less amusing….
Wishing In Vain // December 2, 2009 at 1:02 AM
Who the hell cares what you find amusing or not???
You are a bombastic idiot so full of yourself it is not funny, when you learn respect and caring for Barbadians only then will you gain respect, we BARBADIANS ARE NOT COWS AS YOU SO SUGGEST, WE TO ARE DEAR LOVING PEOPLE.
Negroman // December 2, 2009 at 2:19 AM
Is this the same Chris Halsall who usually castigates this Negroman for the descriptions he uses.Well,well,well.
I am not surprise though because he has the stinking,poisonous white man’s blood running through his shite infested veins and nothing the bastards like Chris Halsall say about Black People surprises me.
Chris Halsall well said.The true you have now awaken.
Chris Halsall,you are in no position to castigate this Negroman.You have relegated Black Barbadians to the level of chattel like your predecessors of America did.
15,000 cows stood and watch our Independence Parade as claim by Chris Halsall.
sad very sad // December 2, 2009 at 3:26 AM
war inna babylon
sad ver sad !
Micah // December 2, 2009 at 6:33 AM
@sylvan greenidge. I am not one who agreed with the David Thompson position that national ceremonial events should take second place to constituency activities, even in the context of the Independence Day parade being held at that time on Independence Day and not the night before. I had assumed that these type of events were planned with almost military precision with respect to arrival of dignitaries, and activities and elements withinn the programme schedule. I would agree that attendees should have been notified with regard to the programme schedule especially if it was a departure from last year. Also, as someone who has attended that Independence Parade in the past with a feeling of pride in my country and its accomplishments I wish to object to anyone calling people who would go that ceremony “cows”.
David // December 2, 2009 at 6:57 AM
Agree with Micah’s comment. It is the reason why we asked the earlier question about the organizers not synchronizing schedules etc.
Wishing In Vain // December 2, 2009 at 7:17 AM
Micah, This years event follwed the same format as last years’s and anyone with the slightest common sense woul have understood that it was to re enact the event of 30 th Nov 1966 hence it would obviously have gone into 1.00 am plus.
So his argument is a feable one at best and an insult at worse, there is not a single person who set out to attend that function including Mottley and Forde that would have expected an early finish, none not one.
Wishing In Vain // December 2, 2009 at 7:22 AM
David,the earlier question about the organizers not synchronizing schedules etc.
The only person that this scheduling needs to be done around is the Govenor General, the Prime Minister and his Cabinet have a standing rule that this time is to be made available for this very important function in the islands year of events.
Can you tell me that the Gov’t will have to request a time that works for Mottley before formulating a program of events?
If so I can almost assure you that we would not celebrate Independence in this island.
Wishing In Vain // December 2, 2009 at 7:29 AM
Micah, I too am deeply offended by this half ass describing we Barbadians as COWS and the arrogance and bombastic nature of the idiot he continued to go down the same road of disgust.
I sincerely hope that David will request an apology to the Barbadian people for calling them COWS, there is not much of him that I comment on but his nasty comment that we were 15,000 Cows is in my books a most disrespectful and nasty comment best left for the Masters to describe the slaves during the slave days of trading.
V O Reason // December 2, 2009 at 9:51 AM
“When a phrase is used as a euphemism, it often becomes a metaphor whose literal meaning is dropped. This type of euphemism is used in public relations and POLITICS, where it is sometimes called doublespeak”. …Wikipedia
We have all used euphemisms at one time or other, is this (15,000 COWS) going to become another storm in a teacup? This is not a time to be fussing and backbiting over non-issues, we all know we are not COWS, so let’s move on to what is really of great concern to Barbadians….the state of the country.
ROK // December 2, 2009 at 11:02 AM
Sharing some information:
Watch the CARICOM Press Conference LIVE from the 7th WTO Ministerial Conference in Geneva
TODAY
at 11:00 am BARBADOS Time / 4:00 pm Geneva time
To watch the Webcast visit:
http://gaia.world-television.com/wto/20091130/press_conference/min09_webcast_pressconf_e.htm
EyeSpy // December 2, 2009 at 11:18 AM
I’ve read most of the comments on this issue. Some people should be more realistic.
There are times when schedules conflict and one has to juggle events so that no one is felt slighted. This happens to the average layman, as well as to and regardless of political affiliations. There are times when one has no other choice than to put in an appearance as a courtesy, especially to important events, and move on to another, and so forth. This is usually done and should not be viewed as a negative gesture. I don’t see why there is the hullabaloo.
Wishing In Vain // December 2, 2009 at 11:30 AM
EyeSpy, An Official Function To Mark Our 43 rd Year of Independence and you as leader of HM Loyal Opposition cannot make time to be part of this function, she cannot be serious or be expected to be taken seriously by her party or the people of Barbados, service to country is paramount her private affairs come way after.
Wishing In Vain // December 2, 2009 at 11:31 AM
Thank ROK
Negroman // December 2, 2009 at 11:42 AM
Chris Halsall the Canadian has insulted Black Barbadians by calling 15,000 of us Barbadians who went and observed our national ceremony celebrating our 43 year of Independence cows.
Chris Halsall if he has Barbadian citizenship it should be revoked with immediate effect.Chris Halsall has no legitimate claims to Barbadian citizenship by his unwarranted racist attack on Black Barbadians by his insulting words he used to describe Black Barbadians.
Hartley Henry,Wishing In vain,Carson Cadogan & the others who are in close contact with our Prime Minister must as a matter of decency report Chris Halsall racist,derogatory & insulting language he used to describe us Barbadians that took the time out to participate in an event that is the most sacred to all Barbadians.
David & BU,an apology is not enough from Chris Halsall the mutant with the stinking white man’s blood running through his sh**e infested veins,he should be banned from Barbados Underground.
Chris Halsall,I cannot state on this blog what I would love to do with a stinking mixed up mutant like you,but I know at the end of my actions there would be so much regrets.
Jennie Hall // December 2, 2009 at 11:54 AM
It is interesting as Barbadians how quick we set out to judge and name call. I completly agree with Eyespy. Why all the negativity? I think if the parade was kept during the day as it was traditionally there would be no problems. It should be a commemorative program not a bashment concert.
ROK // December 2, 2009 at 12:04 PM
I must say that CARICOM Press Conference was very disappointing… So many questions to ask. Where were the journalists? What is happening to the media?
This is a case where we have lost so many concessions. Maxine McClean did her bit by highlighting the negative effect of the UK departure tax on Barbados and the Caribbean, but what about the fact that the ACP is now being sidelined by the EU?
The exclusion of paragraph 179 from the new draft agreement is significant. Europe is now closing a deal with the Latin Americans for the supply of bananas; where does that leave us in terms of export? CARICOM is really doomed and Barbados with it.
It was the responsibility of our leaders to deal with the inclusion of similar arrangements as in Article 179. This is now 5 years and they have not lifted a finger to be heard on the special relationship clause. I hope we don’t now turn around and blame the Latinos, although, according to reports we were mere observers in those negotiation; shut out.
One Latin American can flood the EC market, so why not allow our bananas be part of the quota? It certainly does not affect LA banana export but means the world to us. Was this the same strategy they used to kill our sugar industry? Now that we have adopted and depend on tourism, along comes a very prohibitive and probably punitive departure tax.
Some say there is no conspiracy. I wonder what they call all this? Did I hear somebody say we get what we deserve?
David // December 2, 2009 at 12:40 PM
@ROK
Interesting stuff, you need to tell us more. Maybe you can move the
conversation to the headline blog.
@all
BU did NOT interpret Chris’ comment as negative; from time to time
even BU has described Barbadians as ’sheeple’ to connote being
passive.
Let us discuss the issues. Chris as a consumer advocate has done more for Barbadians than many politicians and others. Lift the discussion man!
Alex Fergusson // December 2, 2009 at 1:43 PM
Unpatriotic
+++++++++++
In the Sunday Sun of November 29th 2009 – a day before Independence – the Prime Minister of Barbados was quoted as having said:
“One of the things that I think Barbadians may have been misled about, was the extremely overly enthusiastic viewpoint that there was some vast, easily accessible store of oil reserves not very far off Barbados that could be easily extracted and pursued and that we, within five years’ time would be the beneficiaries of this windfall.”
Now tell me, If you had the option of believing Prime Minister Thompson and the DLP, who have proven that they do not know what they are doing and keep getting it wrong, or a highly respected international Norwegian Company, which is a global leader that specialises in the offshore oil industry and the interpretation of seismic data – who would you believe?
Halsall, did the Prime Minister lie –again? If there is no oil, then why was Venezeula trying to claim those three blocks?
Anonymous(2) // December 2, 2009 at 2:59 PM
You see how quickly they turn against you Halsall? All those wonderful “colourful” descriptives attributed to you by NM? Everything on this blog digresses down to racism. I am well aware of what you really meant by the term “cattle” but you see how it is interpreted by the brainless racists?
Alex Fergusson // December 2, 2009 at 3:08 PM
I know the DLP is catching at straws and would want to selectively talk about walking-out but isn’t it true that David Thompson not only turned his back – but walked out on Barbadians and the 40,000 policy holders of CLICO and their families and has opted instead to protect Parris and CLICO?
Is it true that on the CLICO’ Crystal Heights Project, David Thompson received $55,000 on every house sold?
Is it true that Ernest and Young New York – has instructed the Barbados Chapter – not to sign-off on the accounts of CLICO Barbados, or certify that its books and accounts are in order, because they are not?
Is it true that there are serious and legitimate concerns that CLICO moved some $600 million out of Barbados, between January and April this year and that CLICO Mortgage and CLICO General, were bled to move that money?
Is it true that when he met with Patrick Manning in Trinidad recently, David Thompson begged him to do something about CLICO Life – else his tenure as Prime Minister of Barbados, will be in serious jeopardy?
Is it true that there are likely to be serious problems at CLICO Mortgage soon?
++++++++++++++
Now, having mentioned the phrase: “Catching at Straws,” I hope no one accuses me of referring to anyone as: “cows.”
But “cows;” “fatted calf” and “trough” are symbolic to power-dems, who would rather hold on to power than give Barbadians a chance.
Wishing In Vain // December 2, 2009 at 3:10 PM
Chris as a consumer advocate has done more for Barbadians than many politicians and others. Lift the discussion man.
I Am not sure this as per the above makes it acceptable for him to call anyone a COW, you can dress it up as you would like and refer to a sheepie look but this was no slip of the tongue this was a downright insult to the Barbadian people to be called COWS
Wishing In Vain // December 2, 2009 at 3:13 PM
Fergusson AKA Greenidge You have some balls to talk on the subject of honesty when it has been proven that you and your clan knew no such word.
Alex Fergusson // December 2, 2009 at 3:30 PM
Having promised freedom of information and accountability – just answer the questions please.
Is it true?
Negroman // December 2, 2009 at 4:14 PM
David & BU
There is no justification for the insulting comments Chris Halsall made in calling 15,000 Black Barbadians who attended the Independence Parade cows.
David,You cannot linked your reference of labeling Barbadian “sheeple” as a result of our inertia or reluctance to take principle positions on any given matter.David,you are one of us and you have the right to be critical of your fellow Barbadians
David,I am upset with you trying to defend Chris Halsall very insensitive & insulting reference to 15,000 Black Barbadians celebrating one of the most important & significance day in this island’s history.It is weak on your part to suggest that because of Chris Halsall apparent contribution to our utility rate hearings,that justification could be given to his comments.If that is so,then stinking Miss Ram of Furniture Limited has the right to ill-treat her Black workers because she is making a contribution by providing employment for Barbadians.Justification can also be sought for the likes of COW Williams,Peter Harris,his brother Thomas Harris,the local rat catchers Indians and the nasty Chinese along with the Indo-Guyanese scums who ill-treat & unfair Black Barbadians because it can be claimed those bastards are assisting this country
Persons of the ilk of stinking Chris Halsall,Jack Bowman Dennis “Living in Barbados” Jones believe that they can come into Black countries like Barbados and talk down to us the nationals of those countries because those clowns believe that they have special talents that we the nationals do not have and we have facilitators who give those human pests that believe.
David I am bitterly disappointed with you trying to defend that stinking mutant Chris Halsall.
Christopher Halsall // December 2, 2009 at 5:44 PM
@All…
I obviously have caused more than a little offence by my poor choice of words, intended to communicate the passive nature of *all* us Bajans.
For any offence caused, I sincerely apologise.
However, I think it is very important to point out that at no time did I mention, nor was I thinking at the time, Black vs. White.
I find it disturbing that Negroman was so quick to assume a racist perspective. I hope, based on my comments and actions in the past, that it is quite clear that I am not racist.
My best friends are Black. Those I work with every day are Black. The work I do is for the intended benefit of mostly Blacks.
For what the above is worth….
Adrian Hinds // December 2, 2009 at 5:59 PM
Poor choice of words? yes, to suggest chris as a racist for so uttering? nonsense.
In this instance Negroman behaves like Jack Bowman and the publishers of BFP. Stop cheapening the term “racist” it is a real term not suited in any way to Chris H.
Dennis Jones (aka Living in Barbados) // December 2, 2009 at 6:26 PM
@Negroman, as you choose to draw in whomever you like for insults–from the luxury of your hiding place in the land of anonymity, my response would be that you seem to like to dish it out, but just do not have the ability to take it. If you were less free with your insults your arguments might find some sympathy. Try to put the good foot forward first and see if others follow. I suggest a civil is in in order. Make your comments in the full glare of your own name then we can discuss the substance.
Dennis Jones (aka Living in Barbados) // December 2, 2009 at 6:29 PM
@Negroman, CORRECTION ‘I suggest a civil TONGUE is in in order’.
Interesting that Chris mentioned ‘cattle’ with no reference to their colour–and many are multicoloured in reality, some white, many brown, some black– but someone has since claimed them to be black. How odd the minds work.
ac // December 2, 2009 at 7:12 PM
@chris
refering to any person or agroup of people as “cattle” is not cute or funny.
A person with your scholastic ability shouldhave known better
Apology accepted.
@dennis Jones
Why are you trying to defend him you have added more fuel to the fire.
I think you are the one with the “odd mind”
Are you trying to say that he didn’t say what he said?
Remember they is a saying “Still waters run deep”
Dennis Jones (aka Living in Barbados) // December 2, 2009 at 7:58 PM
@ac, with due respect I had no part in this discussion, then an angry person decided he would draw in some people he/she does not like, including myself. That’s gratuitous. I call my response ’self defence’. But, more importantly, to cite what a person says not what someone makes fit their anger is not ‘defending’ someone. There was never a racist inference: it was a figment that was used and highjacking of the discussion took place based on it.
Hants // December 2, 2009 at 8:55 PM
@ Chris,
Your best friends should get you a copy of the Chris Rock video “Kill the messenger.”
His suggestion as to the only time you should use the N word applies to Cattle in the context you used it and it is offensive to call people cattle..
You apologised and some will accept it.
Only you can decide if you need to be more careful in the future.
Chuckles // December 2, 2009 at 9:33 PM
David
I find it strange that Chris (whoever he
may be) can make a derogatory comment , refuses to apologise to the BU family and you , trying to trivialize the comment, are asking us to discuss issues. Do you want a bigger issue than someone referring to Bajans as cows? Are you suggesting that consumer advocates can call us ‘cows ‘ and we must dismiss it as a figure of speech. Come on, man, you can do better than that.
Sure about Democracy // December 2, 2009 at 10:00 PM
Alex Fergusson // December 2, 2009 at 3:08 PM wrots
I know the DLP is catching at straws and would want to selectively talk about walking-out but isn’t it true that David Thompson not only turned his back – but walked out on Barbadians and the 40,000 policy holders of CLICO and their families and has opted instead to protect Parris and CLICO?
Is it true that on the CLICO’ Crystal Heights Project, David Thompson received $55,000 on every house sold?
Is it true that Ernest and Young New York – has instructed the Barbados Chapter – not to sign-off on the accounts of CLICO Barbados, or certify that its books and accounts are in order, because they are not?
Is it true that there are serious and legitimate concerns that CLICO moved some $600 million out of Barbados, between January and April this year and that CLICO Mortgage and CLICO General, were bled to move that money?
Is it true that when he met with Patrick Manning in Trinidad recently, David Thompson begged him to do something about CLICO Life – else his tenure as Prime Minister of Barbados, will be in serious jeopardy?
Is it true that there are likely to be serious problems at CLICO Mortgage soon?
Do you really believe the things that you said in the comments above. Man use some intellect. 600 million of what dollars, Barbados or United States. Aren’t you aware that CLICO Mortgage has been sold to the BPWCCUL. It is the height of stupidity to even suggest that CLICO would provide $55,000 to someone for legal work on each house in Cyrstal Heights. Man grow up and stop allowing your partisan politics to blind you in to talking and acting stupid. We are rational people out here. We are capable of discerning the truth.
Anony // December 2, 2009 at 10:08 PM
Chuckles(The Clown), can you not read? He did apologize.
Sure about Democracy // December 2, 2009 at 10:15 PM
Sylvan Greenidge is paid by the opposition leader to write the drivel he does on the BU. He has straddled both political parties, simply as a hanger on. He aptly explains the comment; where there is no diginity people will eat their stools. Mr. Croney Greenidge tries to explain the impossible on the disgraceful departure of Mia Mottley and Cynthia Forde from the Independence Gala. He seeks to suggest that they left to attend independence activities. Most activities for Independence day was held on Monday the 30th and not Sunday the 29th. Stop lying Greenidge, you are awful at it. Please tell us Greenidge what activity they were attending at 10 pm on the 29th, the night of the GALA.
Furthermore Greenidge only the sick and silly would denigrate the culture fare of Barbadians as bashment culture. What better time to display the cultural activities of Barbadians than at their independence Gala. Followed by the Display of our Military and non paramilitary groups. Hooray to the Organizers for a well executed event. Let’s have it again Next year
EyeSpy // December 2, 2009 at 10:37 PM
@Chuckles // December 2, 2009 at 9:33 PM “David I find it strange that Chris (whoever he may be) can make a derogatory comment , refuses to apologise to the BU family and you …
Chuckles I’ve posted the apology from Chris below so you don’t have to go searching for it…
Christopher Halsall // December 2, 2009 at 5:44 PM
@All…
I obviously have caused more than a little offence by my poor choice of words, intended to communicate the passive nature of *all* us Bajans.
For any offence caused, I sincerely apologise.
Chuckles // December 2, 2009 at 10:43 PM
Anony
Yes , I can read. I hope you can read and understand. David apparently didn’t see any reason for an apology by asking the family to discuss issues and ignore the comment. I was replaying the sequence of the events before asking him if he wanted a bigger issue than an individual calling Bajans ‘Cows’. David is yet to respond
Chuckles // December 2, 2009 at 11:07 PM
Eyespy
Thanks. Must have scrolled down too fast and missed the so-called apology. I still want to know why David attempted to trivialize the comment by asking us to discuss issues and furthermore why did he mention that Chris as a consumer advocate did more for Bajans than some politicians etc. That had abolutely nothing to do with the man’s insulting comment.
ac // December 2, 2009 at 11:34 PM
@Dennis Jones
In whatever way you were”drag into the conversation” you did little to defend yourself but more to defend chris bypretending to assume he could have been refering to people “multicolor” when in fact he referenced his choose of words to the 15000 who had attended the event who were mostly blacks bajans or otherwise.
It really amazes me how people with your intelligence always seem to underestimate people and in fact by so
doing leaves the impression that we are stupid.
Those of us who called him out on this issue was totally correct in doing so.
For you not to see that his poor choice of words was inflammotory boggles my mind.
Checkit-Out // December 2, 2009 at 11:39 PM
Living in Barbados.
I think an explanation of the history of the term “cattle” in the apparent context in which it was used might also give some ideas on the apparently “off the wall” reactions to it. A well known bajan character “King Dyall” often used the term “black cattle” in a very derogatory sense when referring to the black masses of this country.
I would be very surprised if Chris Halsall was using the term cattle in that context. It seems to me that he was actually using it as synonymous with political “yard fowl”. This was unfortunate as many non-yard fowls would have been guests along with the typical yard-fowls who would have attended.
I also do not see that race came into it as he originally stated it. That distortion and inflation came from WIV and Negroman.
Another tempest in a teapot.
Wishing In Vain // December 3, 2009 at 12:51 AM
I also do not see that race came into it as he originally stated it. That distortion and inflation came from WIV and Negroman.
My friend anytime someone calls one of my brothers or sisters a Cow it is an INSULT, Simple and plain.
As for the apology it is a shallow one when he tries to convince us that it had another meaning even in the apology and secondly the only reason we have seen an apology is because of the uproar this comment attracted in all of that not once was he willing to apologise and continued to repeat the said vulgar comment in nearly every post thereafter not the actions of someone who may have made a slip of the tongue and corrected it, he really does look at us as COWS, very uncalled for.
ac // December 3, 2009 at 12:59 AM
@check -It- Out
Here we go another physoanalyst with the mumbo jumbo thinking like an ostrich with it’s head buried very deeply in the sand.
It is ubelievable how you are attacking the people who were quick to point out the ridiculous remarks made by Hasall
You need to read all the books covering the History of black people including the Slave Trade.
The fact that you can use a self hating black such as “king Dyall” to make a point in the defense of your friend Chris
does not make his comments alright.
You too should know better .You ought to be ashamed of yourself .
For you not to see his choice of words as derogatary is a distortion in an of itself. Unbelievable.
David // December 3, 2009 at 1:02 AM
This question is to all the DLP surrogates like Wishing in Vain, Chuckles et al.
What is your comment regarding Peter Wickham’s latest OPINION at large that the BLP is unlikely to regain power in the next election?
BU notes with interest that Peter the pollster seems yet again to be quite comfortable tossing around opinions.
To borrow from the lexicon of Chris, we are living in interesting times.
Wishing In Vain // December 3, 2009 at 1:43 AM
Neither the party nor the rank and file of the party want Mottley, with this being the case what possible result would you expect.
I am also hearing of disquiet between herself and Ronald Toppin, this will give Owing more reason to feel justfied in his actions.
Elections are a long way away and we have the peoples business to attend to not to mind Mottley and her self inflicted warfare.
Mottley is a big man and she can fight his own battles.
Tell Me Why // December 3, 2009 at 1:44 AM
Chris. I read your post and I am amazed that Negroman and WIV could distort language simply for political gain. The Garrison was filled with all colours, sexes, rich and poor and only these warped brains can see “black”. Release thyself from your inner anger and deal with issues that confronting our fellowman..
Tell Me Why // December 3, 2009 at 1:48 AM
Elections are a long way away and we have the peoples business to attend to not to mind Mottley and her self inflicted warfare.
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Your quote “we have the peoples business”. You have confirmed your true identity brother H.
Negroman // December 3, 2009 at 2:25 AM
Chris Halsall
Why is it when people like you are under pressure for slighting Black people with racist comments & actions,the first line of defence is usually I am not racist because I have Black friends and I did this and I did that to help Black People.
I do not accept that line of argument.
Chris Halsall,in your subsequent posts you mock us by mocking the sound cows make moooo,mooo.Is that the behavior associated with a person who made an initial slip by using the wrong word or term?I think not.
Chris Halsall,you know some Black people are fickle & gullible and by coming here and claiming that it was a slip on your part and then attempting a feeble apology knowing full well that many of the gullible Blacks will readily accept your apology.I am not from that group.
Chris Halsall,I believe your comments had racist overtures & connotations to it and you have not convinced this Negroman that it was just a slip.I would not buy it.
Chris Halsall,you can take your apology and stuff it you know where.
David // December 3, 2009 at 6:49 AM
@WIV
You have two years, a relatively long time in politics but actually very short. It will be interesting especially in a recession where the government has elected to go on the ropes and absorb the punches.
ac // December 3, 2009 at 7:06 AM
@Negroman
The people who are condoning such comments and defending him should be brought to task .For as a man thinketh so is he.
Theyjust don’t get it.
David // December 3, 2009 at 7:17 AM
Commenters in the past have made remarks for which they subsequently apologized and moved on, including Negroman. BU reiterates our earlier position in support of Chris. Adrian Hinds captured it well, he used a poor choice of word and got carried away with the subsequent exchanges. BU regulars know that Chris gets passionate about people who use handles as well as the lack of speed government is implementing a freedom of exchange framework.
For those who believe otherwise you are entitled but let good discussion continue. For those BU family members who have been around awhile they know as well there has always been tension in the exchanges between WIV and himself for whatever reason.
Yardbroom // December 3, 2009 at 7:59 AM
Ref: Chris Halsall
It is unwise to use the word “racist” when it is not appropriate or the facts do not justify; it serves no purpose other than to dilute; an ill-chosen word was used, an apology followed…magnanimity is a reasonable course of action now.
Wishing In Vain // December 3, 2009 at 8:39 AM
David I have never had a lot of time for this clown Halsall and after him calling oure people black Barbadians COWS, I have even less time for him now.
I really had thought and maybe even wished that in the year 2009 that comments such as these would cease to exist but up pops along a guy like Halsall and blows that theory thru the window.
In Barbados in this year we should be more aware and considerate of sisters and brothers feelings than Halsall has been, I suggest to you had it not been for the outrage the Negroman created no apology would have been place on this site.
V O Reason // December 3, 2009 at 9:24 AM
Since we are going to beat this nonsense into the ground, I may as well continue with this inane, inconsequential conversation.
Cowlike or sheeplike matters not to me, however, the latter more fits the average Barbadian. People are sheep. Most human beings don’t like to be different from the others around them; they want to fit in – to look, sound, and act “normal.” Passive is what I always thought of the population. Could this be what David meant?
Your apology was accepted by almost all, could we now move on to a more serious topic?
JC // December 3, 2009 at 9:28 AM
Nice seeing you YB Seasons greetings
Alex Fergusson // December 3, 2009 at 9:35 AM
DLP’s Trademark Incompetence Causes Barbados to lose Millions:
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Published on: 12/3/2009.
THE OIL DRILLING and exploratory programme launched under the former Barbados Labour Party Government would have incurred little or no
expense to Barbados.
Former Minister of Energy Senator Liz Thompson stated this to the media yesterday, noting that all of the major costs would have been borne by any companies which had won bids to drill or do exploration off Barbados.
“Barbados really would not have had to spend any or very little money,” Thompson told a news conference to respond to Prime Minister David Thompson’s charge last week that Barbadians had been misled about large, easily accessible oil reserves in Barbados’ waters.
“There was no risk to Barbados. The way our programme was set up, all of the costs of drilling and all of the exploratory activity had to be carried by the company, not by the country,” she told reporters at the Opposition’s office in Bridgetown.
Senator Thompson explained that Barbados had paid for seismic data to be done and had then put out marketing teasers.
She added that when various oil companies saw the data, they were “so excited they were willing to pay substantial sums for it”.
By October-November 2007, Barbados had already earned over $20 million for the data alone, she stated, while the bids – which were due in March-April this year – would have resulted in companies getting bid blocks, which would have earned money for the country with each company’s signature. (RJ)
Source: Today’ Nation
http://www.nationnews.com/story/liz-blasts-PM-3-copy-for-web
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Worst than Clico’s threat to the Barbados economy – the above is further evidence that the DLP has walked out on Barbados.
But why would it try so desperately to scare off internation oil investors.
Why?
Think!!! Help them Mr. Halsall.
David, could it be campaign finances. I don’t know I am just asking!!!!
Checkit-Out // December 3, 2009 at 9:46 AM
ac
Re. your 12.59 pm post.
Negroman usually makes some very good points but imho, this time his posts on this matter were coloured by the apparent racial bajan overtones of the word “cattle” and the fact that he had himself attended the function and couldn’t brook being called “cattle”. I think he is the furthest thing from the usual connotation of “cattle” as can be found on this blog. He is nobody’s cattle nor yard fowl.
WIV posts are typical standard political propaganda. I am confident that he fully understood what Chris Halsall was attempting to say but it was in his political interest to distort it and he did so beautifully, perhaps ensnaring some persons like yourself.
I did not seek to attack anyone, just point out that imho, the outrage was largely contrived and fabricated.
Re. reading ALL the books covering the history of black people including the slave trade, I can’t claim that I have read all but I have read a very large number of them and my library contains scores of such books. I suspect I have read more than you have.
I merely used the King Dyall example to explain to a stranger in our midst what, imho, is the likely derivation of the term “cattle” and the uproar created by it.
I don’t know Chris Halsall in any way. I don’t know if he is a born bajan, a naturalized bajan, a bajan white, or a bajan white wanabee. He is not an acquaintance of mine. He doesn’t know me.
I really think his comments were misrepresented.
Alex Fergusson // December 3, 2009 at 9:53 AM
A n Inexcusable Multi-Million Dollar DLP Mistake:
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Published on: 12/3/2009.
GOVERNMENT was yesterday blasted for ignoring an offshore oil investment that would have brought quick returns of over $100 million to Barbados.
Former energy minister Senator Liz Thompson said she was “deeply horrified” that the two-year-old Democratic Labour Party (DLP) Administration had seemingly scuttled the drilling/exploration programme, which had already earned $20 million and had the potential to transform Barbados’ economy in these trying times.
Reacting to Prime Minister David Thompson’s statement last week that Barbadians had been misled by the previous Barbados Labour Party (BLP) Government about easily accessible reserves of oil, Thompson called on Government to disclose how much money the country had failed to earn as a result of its delay in signing a contract with international oil company, BHP Billiton.
She told a Press conference at the Opposition’s Office yesterday that BHP Billiton, a reputable international company, had won at least one oil bid block, which meant that if BHP had signed
the contract, it would immediately have to pay the Government millions of dollars based on a signature bonus.
“And I’m not talking about $10 or $20 million, no figure so small. I’m talking about substantial money,” she said. “At a time when we are broke, just signing the contract would have brought upwards of $100 million to the Barbados economy.”
Thompson said the BLP was extremely concerned that at a time when Barbadians were overtaxed, when Government was borrowing large sums of money to prop up the economy, and when the Prime Minister was “walking the globe, partying and begging people for money” that the Government should be making statements to derail the programme launched by the BLP Government in 2007.
Thompson pointed out that by the end of 2007, the taxpayers of Barbados had “already earned over $20 million from the sale of seismic data and activity related to the offshore programme . . . a considerable profit over expenditure”; while last year’s Estimates had projected the programme would earn $70 million.
She stated that based on expert analysis, the local seismic data was considered by one expert to be the best he had seen, with structures here being analogous to those in the North Sea.
“I am deeply horrified at this level of incompetence. This is not a matter of politics but of national policy.”(RJ)
http://www.nationnews.com/news/local/LEAD-thompson-vs-thompson-FRONT-PAGE-OTHER
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And to thing people get lock up in this country for taking a tin of sardines from a store. The DLP lost over $100 million and not a word.
It is why the Barbados economy is in perilous crisis and why this country could never be on a “Pathway to Progress” – rather, it is on the DLP’s Highway to Poverty.
Alex Fergusson // December 3, 2009 at 9:54 AM
And to thin”K” people get lock up in this country for taking a tin of sardines from a store.
Sorry about the “K”
permres // December 3, 2009 at 10:05 AM
I am an outsider (well, permanent resident) and I am not going to get involved in the politics.
To begin, I watched the Parade show on TV8, nearly five hours from 8.30 p.m. The two moving moments for me was the raising of the Barbados flag, and the delivery of the Pledge of Allegiance by the two children. We either believe in and support nationhood, or we don’t, it is as simple as that, I think.
CBC Outside Broadcasts seem to be going from bad to worse. ( Unless it is my TV, but I do not think so.) The quality of the sound was terrible and I occasionally turned the TV sound off and listened to the 100.7 FM broadcast, which was much better); sometimes the drill sargeant’s voice was louder than the band – when we could hear the band clearly, which was not very often. BTW, I am retired and semi-disabled, TV was the only option for me so I could not get down to the Garrison and find out for myself how it came over down there.
Concerning planning, I think the greatest mistake was to put the entertainments before the Parade. I guess they did it to keep up the attendence figures, and, as has been said, to promote a party atmosphere instead of a serious consideration of what it means to be an independent nation.
Two nights later my wife and myself watched the film “Taking Chance”, which depicts the experiences of an officer who volunteers to escort the body of a young marine, brought back from Iraq, to his family for burial. I think it was really a propaganda film to show the American public the amount of care and concern given by the military for those killed in combat, but it did bring home to me how our services, both armed and unarmed, have committed themselves to the upholding of our nation.
Of course if Barbados was invaded we would not stand a chance, but I think it was very fitting that the Coast Guards should lead the Parade, considering the war against drugs. All of this, and much more, should have been presented before the entertainments. It seems our services are being mocked as merely ceremonial and of little real use. So much for nationhood then, I guess.
DR. POOPERTALLIAN // December 3, 2009 at 10:32 AM
How long is too long if it is not working ?
The writing is on the wall.
Humpty Dumpty ’s fate is inevitable !
The source is not the source but the eventuality of the source.
Those who have ears to hear would have heard
Those who have eyes to see would have seen
Alex Fergusson // December 3, 2009 at 10:49 AM
It is about cosmetic change.
It is why it was a high-cost bashment fete. The Ceremonial, dignified part is down-played by the DLP in favour of feting.
That is how the fatted calf will be distributed: lights, air conditioned toilets for DLP Minister to pee in, chairs, coordination fees, Misl cost, chemical toilets, big mout drinks for DLP Ministers, stage and things that will cost millions – while people cannot get their Income Tax Returns.
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Here is something else.
$60,000 was voted for the big NCF do in New York yet months after, performers and others have not receive a cent but the money is gone. Where?
Where did the $60,000 go?
Secondly, how much did the Independence bashment fete cost the same taxpayers, who cannot get their Income Tax returns?
Yardbroom // December 3, 2009 at 11:57 AM
@ JC
Much appreciated, likewise seasons greetings to you and yours.
Fair and Balance // December 3, 2009 at 12:49 PM
It is strange that the opposition walking out of this event is such a big issue. They are just following what the Prime Minister said when he was leader of the opposition. “When you don’t like what is happening you walk off”. The guidlines were set by the PM. The opposition should know better to follow such guidelines. They did not see what it did to the employees at the royal shop or Sandy Lane. They follow the PM lead and you all know the consequences.
Alex Fergusson // December 3, 2009 at 12:50 PM
Do you accept that it has been established beyond doubt that there is no basis for Deputy Prime Minister Stuart saying Barbadians fete too much because the DLP has D’minished Independence Parade into a costly bashment fete?
Further, the DLP spent $60,000 to sponsor a Crop Over bashment fete in New York,
Thirdly, that a bashment fete was held in the car park at Illaro Court, two days after Mr. Stuart made his comments.
Wishing In Vain // December 3, 2009 at 1:08 PM
Greenidge you the Parro, your voice is an empty one when the people consider your levels of corruption in office you are the last persons to open their mouths to speak on such matters, corruption killed off your desire to be the longest serving Gov’t of this country your claim to fame now is being the most corrupt Gov’t Barbados has ever had to endure.
Alex Fergusson // December 3, 2009 at 1:15 PM
Talk what you like Henry, you promised Freedom of Information Legislation so tell us:
How much did the Independence fete cost the very people who cannot get their Incomke Tax Returns?
Why did you have to provide air-conditioned toilets for DLP Minister to pee in? Couldn’t they pee in ordinary chemical toilets like everyone else?
How much did the bashment cost the tax payers? Hartley!!
After voting $60,000 of our hard tax dollars on that DLP-Fete, why are people in new York still complaining about not being paid?
Where has the money gone Mr. Henry?
Wishing In Vain // December 3, 2009 at 1:21 PM
More to the point why was it that Mottley and Forde were so disrespectful to our Govenor General and the good people of Barbados to walk out of the NATIONAL INDEPENDENCE PROGRAM????
Alex Fergusson // December 3, 2009 at 1:25 PM
@ WIV
Here is another DLP myth busted:
While it was in Opposition, the DLP said that management of the economy was not important.
Mr. Stuart said while in Opposition that the DLP will leave the managment of the economy up to public servants who are well trained.
The DLP said that instead of the economy – it will concentrate on social issues, since the economy is not important. I disagree!!!
Well the DLP backward thinking explains why this country is now in crisis. Managment of the economy is indeed important.
This is yet another DLP myth busted.
The fundamental difference between the DLP and the Barbados labour Party – is the BLP’s unmatched economic forecasting skills and its unmatched ability; skill and competence at managing the economy.
And now you know!!!
Alex Fergusson // December 3, 2009 at 1:31 PM
Wishing In Vain // December 3, 2009 at 1:21 PM
More to the point why was it that Mottley and Forde were so disrespectful to our Govenor General and the good people of Barbados to walk out of the NATIONAL INDEPENDENCE PROGRAM????
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How could Prime Minister Thompson be so unpatriotic that he would tell international oil investors that there is no oil, gas and hydro-carbon in Barbados’ waters?
A highly respected Norweigan company said that the seismic data holds as good or better prospect for Barbados since it compares with what is seen in the North Sea.
The DLP has therefore made a multi-million dollar mistake. It has sunk Barbados’ Offshore Oil Exploration Programme
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“You have sat too long for any good you have been doing. Depart, I say, and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!”
Wishing In Vain // December 3, 2009 at 1:55 PM
To quote from Liz Thopmson that bag of hot air this the same person that Owing FIRED and you have the gall to quote from her and take her seriously???
You are more stupid than I first thought, Liz Thompson speaks only for her own entertainment she knows that her credibily has been shattered when she awarded a contract to build a GOLDEN SHOWER to her husband and the again when she issued instructions to the NHC to remove the Asbestos roof when he was not one of the approved contactors to do this type of work but yet still he was awarded the contract against the advice of the General Manager, so clearly she is neither to be trusted by her word or by her actions.
She is dishonest in more ways than one.
Alex Fergusson // December 3, 2009 at 2:09 PM
“And I’m not talking about $10 or $20 million, no figure so small. I’m talking about substantial money,” she said.
“At a time when we are broke, just signing the contract would have brought upwards of $100 million to the Barbados economy.” – Senator Thompson.
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This is either TRUE or FALSE!
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Did the DLP cause Barbados to lose over $100 million as a result of its incompetence.
We know that from the same Oil Programme, the BLP earned over $20m for Barbados.
We also know that in its 2008 Estimates, the DLP said that it would have earned $70m, but did not.
This is the type of incompetence that has now placed this country in deep trouble.
Wishing In Vain // December 3, 2009 at 2:14 PM
This is the type of incompetence started,with HARDWOOD HOUSING CORRUPTION, DANOS 3 S CORRUPTION, GEMS CORRUPTION, VECO CORRUPTION you must have lived in Siberia for the last 14 years.
Wishing In Vain // December 3, 2009 at 2:16 PM
Oh yes I also forgot the OVAL CORRUPTION
Wishing In Vain // December 3, 2009 at 2:19 PM
You remember person such as Glyne Bannister, Richard Cox, Hallam Nicholls, Rodney Wilkinson, Mark Shorey, Colin Brewer, Tony Hoyos, Mackie Holder.
Yes they all assisted you in you program to defraud the Barbadian taxpayers.
Alex Fergusson // December 3, 2009 at 2:59 PM
And you very well might be right. But you know what, lock-up somebody or become an agent of aiding and abetting.
After Transparency International’s recent ratings prompted the AG to speak about amending the Prevention of Corruption Act, the DLP now cannot remain inactive on matters relating to corruption – as alleged by you.
I understand the need for distraction tactics at this time but please, lock-up somebody or be co-joined.
ru4real // December 3, 2009 at 3:04 PM
Come on someone answer the question that has got lost in the usual rubbish rhetoric of Windbag in Pain mooing away with the best of them.
What about FOIA ?
Alex Fergusson // December 3, 2009 at 3:05 PM
Now!
Hartley Henry told Barbadians that the DLP hit the ground running. We all know now that that was a big lie.
He said that DLP politicians were brimming with bright ideas. Another lie.
Within months of being elected, Thompson was forced to reshuffle the Cabinet and because it lacked good talent – he was compelled to put at least five persons who did not face the polls – in his Cabinet.
The truth is, the DLP Cabinet is now incapable of being logically reshuffled again.
It is why there is a crisis in this country and IT IS WHY THE BLP WILL WIN THE NEXT GENERAL ELECTION..
The DLP does not know what it is doing.
Dennis Jones (aka Living in Barbados) // December 3, 2009 at 3:25 PM
@I often write that Barbados lives within a set of contradictions. I make that conclusion from the kind of remarks made by Wishing In Vain // December 3, 2009 at 2:14 PM:
‘This is the type of incompetence started,with HARDWOOD HOUSING CORRUPTION, DANOS 3 S CORRUPTION, GEMS CORRUPTION, VECO CORRUPTION you must have lived in Siberia for the last 14 years’
How do we square such claims with the scores that suggest that PERCEPTIONS of corruption in Barbados’ public sector are very low (see Transparency International indices). I have argued that Barbados may be very good at covering up its corruption in the public sector. Is the country really exposed to considerable public sector corruption but giving the strong impression of being otherwise?
The Auditior General’s reports and the IMF’s reports on Fiscal Transparency tell a picture that is consistent with the claims above–in the sense that there is evidence of malfeasance and transactions that do not stand up to scrutiny–but at variance with the TI ratings.
Negroman // December 3, 2009 at 6:05 PM
It seems that all Black people want in this world is an apology from our slave masters and from other groups who have done us wrong.
Black People of this world endured 350 years of being enslaved by the Europeans.All the wealth & power the European have today came as a result from the sweat,blood & tears from the enslaved Africans our for-parents.Europeans have committed the worst possible atrocities against African people and are still engaging themselves in that practice.
Some enlightened Black People have and are trying to advance a case for some level of compensation in the form of reparations.Many backward thinking Black lackeys that unfortunately are members of the African race have decided that reparations is not relevant and only a formal apology is required.
In South Africa,the apartheid system was in place.The Black Africans the ancestral owners of the lands were relegated to the status of last class citizens in their country. The invaders controlled everything,robbed,raped,killed & tortured my unfortunate Black brothers & sisters in South Africa.Nelson Mandela & others who were willing to fight for the rights of Black Africans were either killed or imprisoned. Apartheid came to end Nelson Mandela was set free and later became president of South Africa. A truth & reconciliation committee was set up and the end result apologies,apologies and nothing more.The European murderers & rapists still have all their ill-gotten gains,the Black Africans are still impoverished & suffering and no compensation is forth coming.The Black South Africans only received an apology for all the wrongs that were done to them.
Chris Halsall has insulted & ridiculed Black Barbadians by referring to us cows .He has offered a weak,insincere apology and the gullible Black People of Barbados especially those who pride themselves as being very intelligent & highly educated and have high morals have accepted that apology from Chris Halsall with obvious glee.It seems that Black people have achieved some sort of victory because a gentleman of Mr Chris Halsall status has apologized.
The Black Race will always be the punching bag for the other ethnic groups as a result of our lack of self belief.We accept ill-treatment and believe that only an apology is required when wrongs are done to us.
sad very sad // December 3, 2009 at 6:09 PM
dont mind hartley henry-he does tell lies
sad very sad !
cat eyes // December 3, 2009 at 6:11 PM
Alex Fergusson should be glad the Dems do not know what they are doing. “knowing what you are doing” for a supporter and member of the BLP means knowing how to steal taxpayers money. It means how to establish scams camouflaged as multi million dollar projects to ensure that friends and family roll in dough. It means telling expensive lies like the one about Greenland and oil offshore. About state of the art airports without medical facilities and bridges; about prisons without adequate floodlights for potential breakouts. “knowing what you are doing ” for a Bee, means leaving a country with a multi milliondollar highway project and no contractual arrangement for said project.
You have a gall, Fergusson and Greenidge to pissparade on your mock high horse about an independence parade and legitimate artists and technicians hired to observe and honour this country. You are a shameless, jealous, classless bunch of hypocrites. And Barbadians can see through the lot of you. That is why nothing you are saying is resonating, and the Dems receive kudos daily for the work they are doing. Thank God, the independent, intelligent people of our country have always known when and why to change and keep a government . And nothing you lot do or say on blogs will alter the will of the people. They know they did not make a mistake and that is what is galling you.That is why Mia cannot sit, stand nor go. And the BLP will never settle.
David // December 3, 2009 at 6:52 PM
To be honest to read some of the comments from those we know to support the two political parties, no wonder young people have gotten cynical and turned off from politics.
ac // December 3, 2009 at 9:30 PM
@Negroman
having to deal with racial issue is a topic the so called intelligent educated bloggers would rather not deal with.Preferably they would have others to believe they have the best interest of the country at heart while in fact they are using the two party system in a systematic effort to divide the country for they own interest.
It won’t surprise me if some of them don’t like the country or the people.
When I read some of their comments the island is always put in a negative light leaving one to wonder if it is so bad in Barbados why the hell are the living there.
I think some of them would like to see the country fail
I would not mention any by name by after reading their comments their intents are obvious
Chuckles // December 3, 2009 at 10:59 PM
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David // December 3, 2009 at 1:02 AM
This question is to all the DLP surrogates like Wishing in Vain, Chuckles et al. ”
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Dear David
You are shooting in the dark. I have never expressed a political opinion in this forum. I hardly make an input to these discussions but I was so offended by somone referring to Bajans as cattle that I decided to add my two cents’ worth over the last two nights. Are you saying that only the DEE’S see the comments as insulting? If that is the case, I am proud to be a Dem. Using the same argument can I assume that you are a BEE since you see the comments as a non-issue?
ru4real // December 4, 2009 at 9:50 AM
Digression into pseudo insults what about the FOIA FOIA FOIA?
Adrian Hinds // December 4, 2009 at 9:53 AM
Negroman you are being totally unfair to Chris Halsall. I am amaze that you could believe that to “err is human” and at the same time deny this to Chris. What, you don’t believe him to be human?
I ask you to seriously and honestly reflect on what has riled you up, look at Chris’s response thereafter, and your subsequent postings. No sane person, and or someone wishing to be taken seriously so that they can effect change, would continue on an emotional binge of anger over a comment that the author has since apologize for. What’s in it for you to remain angry at a man who by his life’s work has shown a deeper interest in the well being of black Barbadians than probably you have? You have have no legitimate argument to and for your continued anger.
Victims an or persons who have been encourage to see themselves as victims behave in this manner. A manner whereby any attempt to diffuse the source of their emotional high is refuse and ignored at all cost. Are you a blackman and a permanent victim as well?
This behaviour is endemic in the Lower classes of England and the Ghetto’s of North America. Where do you live Negroman? really not in your mind but where do your rest your head at night?
JC // December 4, 2009 at 9:56 AM
People always speak without thought.
But it is amazing how much damage thoughtless words can wreck isn’t it …………….
Adrian Hinds // December 4, 2009 at 10:09 AM
JC // December 4, 2009 at 9:56 AM
People always speak without thought.
But it is amazing how much damage thoughtless words can wreck isn’t it …………….
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What Chris said did not cause any damage, unless you are refering to Negroman’s sensitivity. In turn Negroman has said things and continue to say things, that can be percieved as much worst by other sensitive persons such as Jack Bowman.
Enuff // December 4, 2009 at 10:19 AM
Interesting listening:
mms://media.cwdom.dm/q95
Alex Fergusson // December 4, 2009 at 10:37 AM
“Chris Halsall has insulted & ridiculed Black Barbadians by referring to us cows”
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What madness?!!?
And Jennifer Laszlo and the DLP referred to Barbados and Barbadians as: “A NATION OF TOILET SCRUBBERS.”
Who apologised then?
Get over it and stop bellyaching and catching at straws.
Negroman // December 4, 2009 at 10:38 AM
Adrian Hinds
In this year of 2009 Black People of this world are still victims.The legacy of slavery is well entrenched in all of us.We have adopted all of the institutions that were used to keep us in bondage.The Church,The Judiciary and its legal system,and all the other institutions that played an active role in our bondage.
Adrian Hinds,all right thinking Black People should be angry as hell with this world.Tell me which part of this world where Black People are in the ascendancy and the daily struggle to survive is not present
I am not necessarily angry at Chris Halsall but that comment coming from the ethnic group he represents is far more dangerous & damaging and have more to it than a lot of us would want to believe.
No insulting,degrading comments or gestures should be taken lightly by Black People from the other racial groups .We were & are victims of oppression by all the other ethnic groups and the time to retaliate is now.
Adrian Hinds & the others who believe Chris Halsall’s comments were just a slip are totally misguided..
JC // December 4, 2009 at 10:42 AM
On a serious note AH don’t give an example like JB that is so funny!
Alex Fergusson // December 4, 2009 at 10:45 AM
@cat eyes
THE DLP DOES NOT KNOW WHAT IT IS DOING.
The DLP is about talking; touring; feting and travelling. But people are losing their jobs daily.
Thompson increased the price of Diesel by 77% and now cannot afford TO BUY fuel for SSA truck and Transport Board Buses. CAN YOU IMAGINE SHOOTING YOURSELF IN THE FOOT?
He increased water by 60%. The cost of living keeps going up, but he buys a $750,000 Mercedes for himself with taxpayers money.
It would seem that he then took the people’ Income Tax Money and gave CLICO, which he said was sound, and prudently managed – $20 million.
David Thompson then gave the Turf Club a $19 million handshake but says he wants all 30 seats eventhough subjecting Barbadians to severe economic and political domestic violence.
DO YOU GET THE PICTURE?
Adrian Hinds // December 4, 2009 at 11:45 AM
@Negroman
..you said..
am not necessarily angry at Chris Halsall but that comment coming from the ethnic group he represents is far more dangerous & damaging and have more to it than a lot of us would want to believe.
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Let me get this straight if indeed, such is possible.
You are not angry with Chris, but you are angry at his skin color? Chris made the comment. The “ethnic group” that you placed him in did not.
I have always wondered why people use the words “not necessarily.” They are not active, are not passive, could be considered indecisive, or to be deceitful. “Correlation does not imply neither is it equal to causation; it is only a requirement for it.”
Therefore, I can surmise that you deceitfully used Chris’s mistake that he apologize for to launch into a tirade about the plight of the Blackman. You would destroy a Whiteman to further your cause. What makes you any different than the very people you rage against? Oh uh forgot you black and dem white. chuspe!
Adrian Hinds // December 4, 2009 at 11:47 AM
JC // December 4, 2009 at 10:42 AM
On a serious note AH don’t give an example like JB that is so funny!
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But does it work? I think it does. It is funny too. LOL!
Alex Fergusson // December 4, 2009 at 12:07 PM
It could only be describe as an act of desperation that Ronald Jones would try to give the impression that a weak, stale and ailing Democratic Labour Party, which is causing Barbadians severe social and economic pain – could somehow win the next general election.
Jones is basing his unsound, unscientific argument on the false premise that no political party has been given one term before.
Look Mr. Jones!!!
The facts are that no political party in this history of this country has ever inflicted as much pain on the people of this country – as the DLP.
The DLP had a chance between 1991 and 1994 but squandered it.
It was given another chance on January 15, 2008 – but is performing worst. In fact, with a vengeance – the DLP is now inflicting even more pain on the people of this country than it did between 1991 and 1994.
Even in its first 100 days in office the people of this country realise that the DLP was weak, tired and irrelevant.
The DLP has taken Barbados from the Highway to Prosperity and placed in on the Pathway to Poverty.
This country is in crisis because the DLP lacks talent and relevant skill.
It is why Thompson was forced to reshuffle his Cabinet within a few months of being in office.
The DLP is so short on good talent that it was forced to put at least five people who did not face the polls – in the Cabinet, which is now incapable of being logically reshuffle again.
THE EVIDENCE THAT THE DLP DOES NOT KNOW WHAT IS DOING IS OVERWHELMING.
Adrian Hinds // December 4, 2009 at 12:12 PM
I am not a prophet nor the son of one. lol!
Adrian // May 8, 2007 at 8:47 AM
Mia will toe the line, she is weighing her options, and doing so in a systematic way. Political mind games is a passion of hers. Here is how i see her thought process on the way forward.
1: If she loses her seat, and this is a distinct possibility, and the BLP loses the election, she will tell all.
2: If she loses her seat and the BLP wins, and Owen Arthur does not succeed in courting her loyalty with a senate position and in state ministry position, then she will see her exclusion as the proof that Owen deliberately aided in her demise. She would most likely seek more payback, and we would most likely learn more about Arthur underhand dealings and affairs.
3: If she wins and the BLP loses the election, she will again take stock of her popularity amonst the parliamentarians and the wider BLP community to see if a challegne to Owen Arthur can be a success.
5: If she loses, the Blp wins, she may even look to see what her chances may be with the DLP fold. Don’t count her out, and don’t think that she will let Owen Arthur of the hook for long. Mia is much much more vindictive than me and i aint nuh sweetbread. :D
Alex Fergusson // December 4, 2009 at 12:32 PM
The people of Barbados are beginning to wrap their minds around the hard; cold; brutal fact that the Democratic Labour Party has essentially devalued their dollar and purchasing power.
Do you really realise how much of your dollar you are now paying in taxes?
Why is Lindsay Holder, Don Marshall or the new Central Bank Governor not giving you the answer to that question?
The DLP is the party of taxation and job loss, whereas the Barbados Labour Party is the party that creates jobs; puts people in work and is also the party that reduces taxes.
But while the poor man is being squeeze by the DLP, the rich and brand-name people are getting millions of dollars in sweetheart deals and golden handshakes.
Over 6000 persons have so far lost their jobs but the DLP says that is no big thing.
What does a man who has lost his job and who has a family to feed and children to send to school – have to look forward to from this Government?
No one who has a job today can guarantee that he or she will have a job tomorrow. But the DLP’s advice to Barbadians is: “wait and see,” ever so welcome wait for a call.
Christopher Halsall // December 4, 2009 at 12:39 PM
@BU Family et al…
I have to admit that the reaction by some to my words has upset me deeply. I decided to take a few days off, and not even read the follow up comments.
Having just done so, I have to say that I am touched by the support communicated by many; some of whom I have “locked horns” with in the past. It is nice to know that despite our differences there can still be respect.
Namaste to all.
Now, if I may please go high-bandwidth.
1. It is quite common “away” to refer to consumers (including the electorate) as “cows”, “sheep”, “fodder” et al.
1.1. I have myself used the “cow” and “mooo” metaphor here on BU in the past to describe consumer behaviour. No outrage manifested.
1.2. With regards to “Checkit-Out” — no, I was not aware of King Dyall and the associated baggage.
2. With regards to Negroman…
2.1. I think it should be quite clear that Negroman doesn’t actually hate just Whites. He, instead, hates all foreigners. Why else would he also have attacked Mr. Dennis Jones (who, as I understand it, is Black)?
2.2. IMHO, hatred is a disabilitating emotion. But some just can’t get past it.
3. With regards to WIV…
3.1. I find it *very* interesting that WIV would leverage Negroman’s outrage to refuse to speak to my questions about the *promised* Freedom Of Information Act.
3.1.1. This was in a thread within which WIV was attacking the BLP.
3.2. One might conclude that perhaps DLP supporters are *extremely* uncomfortable discussing the broken promises of the DLP.
3.3. Can anyone explain to me why our two main parties are unable to show respect to each other?
4. With regards to our state of affairs here in Barbados.
4.1. Are we doing OK? Or are we not?
4.1.1. Who knows? We only have what we’re being *told* to go by.
4.2. Personally, I rarely trust what people tell me; I prefer independent empirical data to support claims.
4.3. The *promised* FOIA would go a *long* way in enabling us Bajans to understand the situation.
Now, in the low-bandwidth…
I am a Bajan. I fight for the good of all Bajans.
I will do so until I die; naturally, or otherwise. I’m not leaving.
I was born, raised and trained “away”. Some consider this to mean I am not worth listening to. I respectfully disagree, although I will admit it means I sometimes do not understand the local subtleties. I am, however, very comfortable learning.
And, lastly…
I again sincerely apologise for any offence *actually* caused by my words.
Alex Fergusson // December 4, 2009 at 12:47 PM
PRIME MINISTER THOMPSON SAID THAT BARBADOS DOES NOT HAVE A CASH FLOW PROBLEM.
THIS STATEMENT IS EITHER TRUE OR A LIE.
WHICH IS IT?
Adrian Hinds // December 4, 2009 at 2:01 PM
Hey Alex:
When will Mia Mottley commence her conversations with Barbadians? What will be the format?
Platform meetings?
Town Hall meetings
Paid advertisements in the Nantionnew?
A new blog, online chat?
A new talk programme on VOB?
Do you know if she has completely change her mind about regulating the blogs and call in program?
Dennis Jones (aka Living in Barbados) // December 4, 2009 at 2:19 PM
@Alex Fergusson, presuming that you really are close to what some local politicians are doing. Can you indicate how many use new media technologies to communicate? FYI, I follow a lot of US and UK politicians through their Twitter and Facebook feeds. It was notable that last week, several prime ministers were posting directly from Trinidad during the Commonwealth Heads of Governtment meetings, including PM Gordon Brown. There is little breaking news that does not now flow through channels such as these, plus blogs of course.
Adrian Hinds // December 4, 2009 at 2:39 PM
Hey Negroman I hope we still good!
Tell muh dis! How would you feel about a black man referencing other blacks as shiftless black people, in a conversation with another black man who who did not seem the bit concern about it?
So you know, when ever you feel to cuss uh Jamaican LIB, I gine got yuh back. LOL!
Mr Barnabas // December 4, 2009 at 3:01 PM
It has now been brought to my attention exactly why the Leader of The Opposition and Forde left the Garrison Independence Ceremony on Sunday evening, it is quite an understanderable reason now that it has been fully explained.
I have been told by those that know Ms Mia Mottley very well that she felt that the DLP was disrespectful to her by allowing the Merrymen to sing Don’t Bite Me Barnabas, Don’t Bite Me at the Sunday Function.
Pretty childish if you ask me honestly.
Christopher Halsall // December 4, 2009 at 3:06 PM
@Mr Barnabas [whom we've never heard from before]: “Pretty childish if you ask me honestly.
Childish by whom, *exactly*?
Alex Fergusson // December 4, 2009 at 3:29 PM
The DLP is the party of taxation and job loss, whereas the Barbados Labour Party is the party that creates jobs; puts people in work and is also the party that reduces taxes
Alex Fergusson // December 4, 2009 at 3:38 PM
DLP Ministers are now ashamed.
The costly-Independence-bashment- fete was added to Independence Parade to stretch-it-out so DLP Ministers could attend the DLP’s-St. Philip-Carnival, but the Dems have since imposed the gag order on the DLP’s-St. Philip-Carnival becasue it was full of crime and violence.
I hear that a woman had her throat slashed, a man was shot 16 times and people were stabbed.
WHY THE DLP GAG ORDER ON THIS OTHER DLP BASHMENT FETE?
I head a woman got her throat slashed righ in front a DLP Minister.
Christopher Halsall // December 4, 2009 at 3:39 PM
@Alex…
Really?
Because while I was an advisor to a certain Government agency, I observed the advise of four individuals from said agency being ignored in favour of another’s choice….
Adrian Hinds // December 4, 2009 at 3:50 PM
@ Alex Fergusson:
Mia Mottley in her Independence day speech, reminded Barbadians to remember the “CREATOR.” If it is accepted that Liberals will not hesitate to use God in furtherance of themselves, when not ascribing God like attributes to themselves; was Mia refering to the biblical God, or to the so-called Father of First World Barbados?
Which one will she remembering?
I know she will not forget Owen Arthur. ha ha ha ha
Alex Fergusson // December 4, 2009 at 3:54 PM
Mr. Halsall,
The costly-Independence-bashment-fete on the Garrison was stretched-out to allow DLP Ministers to attend the DLP’s-St. Philip-Carnival, which was nothing but violence and crime.
But, not a word on CBC or in any newspaper of new publication except now on BU.
Why the gag order and DLP-cover up?
Alex Fergusson // December 4, 2009 at 3:57 PM
@ Adrain
Having told Barbadians that he had a stimulus package before Obama, David Thompson later told the House of Assembly on November 17th 2009 that a stimulus package would not be prudent for Barbados, since – according to him – a “fiscal stimulus package would be unwise.”
In fact, Thompson alarmed Barbadians when he said that he has been “doing a balancing act between waiting-and-seeing the economic recession and being proactive.”
In contrast, President Obama made it known to the world that he is being “surgical and creative.”
He added, “I am not interested in taking a wait and see approach.” President Obama also made it clear that “we cannot hang back and hope for the best.”
David Thompson is doing the complete opposite.
It is why the unemployment rate in the third quarter is 10.5% and climbing.
THE DLP DOES NOT KNOW WHAT IT IS DOING
**Adviser to the President** // December 4, 2009 at 3:58 PM
HEY SHOUTING OUT ALL MY PEEPS !
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–That is why nothing you are saying is resonating, and the Dems receive kudos daily for the work they are doing.
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REALLY ?
Not in my neck of the woods
My Advice.
Shut Up and Drive !
Christopher Halsall // December 4, 2009 at 4:02 PM
@Alex: “The costly-Independence-bashment-fete on the Garrison was stretched-out to allow DLP Ministers to attend the DLP’s-St. Philip-Carnival, which was nothing but violence and crime.
Could you *please*, in *extreme* *detail*, explain what you’re talking about?
@Alex: “Why the gag order and DLP-cover up?
I trust you not at all.
Please explain *exactly* what you’re talking about.
Otherwise you’re exactly what I assume…
A waste of carbon….
Negroman // December 4, 2009 at 4:03 PM
Adrian Hinds
I have no problems with your criticism of me.Some of what you said were justifiable and the criticism gave me a chance to look inwardly at myself.
There are no hard feelings on my part.I am not going to continue to lament on what Chris Halsall posted,however,I will still maintain my stance and I believe Chris Halsall apologies are not genuine.
Chris Halsall
You know nothing about me .You can only based your opinions of me by the postings I make on this blog.I do not have hatred in my heart for my fellow human beings.I am disgusted at the level of abuse & ill-treatment Black People of this world are subjected to because of our ethnicity.Black People do not have the skill to hate.We are not Europeans or Indians or Chinese.
Chris Halsall,I have many friends from foreign countries.I have Black friends from Guyana,Jamaica,America,Canad,England ,Africa & many other countries of this world.I will tell you though,I have only Black friends and I DO NOT WANT FRIENDS FROM ANY OTHER ETHNIC GROUP IN THIS WORLD.I have only Black friends.
Chris Halsall,I have noted your apology and I am still not convince about the genuineness of your apology.
Chris Halsall,if you are genuine in your efforts to assist Barbadians,I do not see the reason why you must constantly expressed the work you are doing in that regard.I personally & some of the organisations where I am a member have helped many unfortunate members of this society.My organisations have assisted many with out much fan fare & publicity.The simple reason for this,our efforts are genuine and we need no glorification.Likewise if your efforts are genuine please do not come here and state I am doing this or I am doing that in my pursuit to help Black Barbadians & Barbados.
Chris Halsall,I need no apology from you,however your apology has being noted.
Alex Fergusson // December 4, 2009 at 4:04 PM
Over 6000 have so far lost their jobs. Who is giving the DLP kudos for that?
A stabbing, shooting, mugging or robbery every night, Who is giving the DLP kudos for that?
Barbados is running out of foreign reserves. Who is giving the DLP kudos for that?
The DLP has to go for a loan although Thompson says he does not have a cash flow. Who is giving the DLP kudos for that?
The DLP does not know what it is doing.
Why give the DLP kudos for that?
Barbadians connot pay their bills. Why give the DLP kudos for that?
Alex Fergusson // December 4, 2009 at 4:07 PM
@ Halsall.
You highlight the point I am trying to make. There was a lot of crime and violence at the DLP-staged-St. Philip Carnival but you have not heard about it.
Why? DLP Cover-up.
I bet you know what happened in London at 2;00 p.m today, yet not a world about the violence at the DLP-St.Philip-Carnival, which was full of violence.
Christopher Halsall // December 4, 2009 at 4:13 PM
@Alex: “yet not a world about the violence at the DLP-St.Philip-Carnival, which was full of violence.
Please document same!
Adrian Hinds // December 4, 2009 at 4:14 PM
Since we are talking AT and not WITH each other.
Mia also said “”We need to have a conversation as a nation – a conversation with our young people in particular, to determine how we will take this final step. It is not impossible, neither is it unrealistic,”
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Has she recently rediscovered The Roy Marshall led commissioned REPORT on Law and Order that was submitted to her on June 30 2004 in her capacity as Deputy Prime Minister and Attorney General of Barbados?
Whats the difference between the DLP not knowing what it is doing and the BLP knowing but not doing it? Should I favour one more than the other?
Alex Fergusson // December 4, 2009 at 4:18 PM
@ Adrian
“Whats the difference between the DLP not knowing what it is doing and the BLP knowing but not doing it? Should I favour one more than the other.”
The BLP did: low unemployment; $2.4 billion in foreign reserves, high investor confidence, low crime, competent government and 14 years of economic growth.
Then there was change on Jan. 15 – followed by an increase in poverty; massive layoffs and dwindling foreign reserves.
It is getting worst daily. Do you disagree?
Christopher Halsall // December 4, 2009 at 4:29 PM
@Alex: “It is getting worst daily. Do you disagree?
Can you please, Alex, explain to us simple Bajans *exactly* how we can determine your claims as being correct for ourselves?
Or must we accept your (anonymous) word for it?
Please advise….
Adrian Hinds // December 4, 2009 at 4:34 PM
The BLP’s countercyclical program went on to long, help the wrong people 30,000 illegal immigrants, and their politically calculated gamble of continued stimulation of the economy during their last term, is what placed the Country in its current position. With no end in sight to the current global economic downturn, and an already high debt ratio the current government does not have the options that the BLP had and that they played russion roulette with for personal gain.
Alex Fergusson // December 4, 2009 at 4:35 PM
Page 12 of the Barbados Advocate of December 3. $72 million drop in export earnings
Adrian Hinds // December 4, 2009 at 4:43 PM
But what is Mia saying in the following? What is she highlighting as a governmental constraint in need of change? Is this constraint currently the case? Was it or ideas about contained in the Document Roy Marshall handed to her back in 2004?
On Nov 30th Mia said….
GOVERNMENT MUST COME into the 21st century if it wants to serve the needs and expectations of Barbadians
Chapter 4 of the Law and Order report
“In fulfilment of that requirement, the
Commission made it clear that productive
involvement of civil society in such
an endeavour would require recognition
of deficiencies in our present arrangements
for government and acceptance of
the need for appropriate reform.
FOR FOUR YEARS SHE SAT AND DID NOTHING.
Dennis Jones (aka Living in Barbados) // December 4, 2009 at 5:02 PM
@ ‘Negroman’ // December 4, 2009 at 4:03 PM When you write under a pseudonym, then a comment such as “You know nothing about me .You can only based your opinions of me by the postings I make on this blog.” is a self evident truth. Why not help us know about you and be your true self?
Whether one agrees or disagrees with Chris Halsall, we know to whom and with whom we are dealing. If we are so inclined, we can go and punch him in the nose if it made us feel better. So, to then discuss whether you think he is genuine is putting the tail on the front of the donkey.
If your passport is in order–and you will have to travel under your real name–I can point you to some places to visit where you can see for yourself that black people have plenty of hate in their heart for other black people. These are places that are remote and not exposed to European, Asian or other foreign influence for a good 500-1000 years at least.
Adrian Hinds // December 4, 2009 at 5:05 PM
Mia, below is part of what young Barbadians were saying to the government back in 2004, by way of the Roy Marshall report that was delivered to you. Surely you have read it
“4.6.8. Perceptions of the youth about
governance as it now is
There are some very strong perceptions
among youth about their own
situation and how they are treated by
the state. These perceptions which were
voiced during the Commission’s “walkabouts”
cause a high degree of resentment
and frustration. Whether they are
true or false, they are cause for concern
and need to receive serious attention.
The perceptions are as follows:
* there is no opportunity for youth to
participate, no matter how positively;
* any effort by youth to come together is
viewed with suspicion;
* young persons have an entrepreneurial
spirit and seek self-employment but are not
given a fair chance; and
* the underprivileged are targeted in the
justice system, while persons with
influence are excused.”
IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT BARBADIANS NEED INPENDENCE FROM CENTRALIZE GOVERNMENT.
The final step must include participation in the governance process by the people.
Adrian Hinds // December 4, 2009 at 5:10 PM
that black people have plenty of hate in their heart for other black
INDEED
Negroman need not travel to know this. I can send him proof gathered right out of the horse’s mouth.
Dennis Jones (aka Living in Barbados) // December 4, 2009 at 5:20 PM
@Adrian Hinds, remember that ‘hate’ is a very intense human emotion. Demonstrating it is not a major discovery. But denying its existence is an exercise in self delusion. As I discussed some time ago on another thread in another context, it is like xenophobia. It is quite natural. But people try to deny its existence in and around themselves.
If and when it is exhibited it also has its context, its breadth and its duration. If you study hard and look at its opposite, love, you will see (if you do not already know) that it may never be really understood by other people.
By the way, which ‘horse’ are you referring to? After all the talk about cattle, is that a judicious allusion?
David // December 4, 2009 at 6:56 PM
@Alex
Do you deny the BLP government fuelled economic growth based on construction and foreign direct investment i.e selling off our prime coastal lands?
Do you deny that the global recession would have caused FDI to slow since such investment has a relationship to the capital markets on in contraction?
Richard // December 4, 2009 at 7:26 PM
This place is supremely disgusting. This thread reminds me of glen beck on fox news. None of you third world banana republic uneducated sods care about your own country. [I know i know, here is my disclaimer. i said uneducated, i am sure many of your are well certified with the paper degrees we get in these parts... ]
Anyway…
I dont think you guys even know how to care. This is disgusting. Sylvan if these posts are really you, you need to find other employment. You are woefully uneducated, the airs you put on are transparent and embarrasing. What you are saying from the little i have read make no sense, its diatribe. Its childish, its puerile.
Its like a bunch of school girls arguing about god knows what. You all so clever, running around, dropping names and ripping off you all 2 cents that you cannot see what the country is turning into.
ac // December 4, 2009 at 7:46 PM
@Adrian Hinds
Question Why are you so eager to defend the acinine remarks made by chris.Do you think those remarks were in good taste and befitting of a person with sound and practical thinking.
You are ridiculous.You ought to be ashamed of yourself
I have already spoken my peace about chris bit what bothers me more so is the “so called friends he has they refuse to tell him that he was wrong .
PETER 7 // December 4, 2009 at 7:55 PM
MIA !
MIA
PRIME MINISTER
MIA
MIA !
PRIME MINISTER !
SOUNDS GOOD TO THE EARS
PETER 7 // December 4, 2009 at 8:05 PM
According to information on this Blog
The DLP does not know what it is doing
The BLP is corrupt or was corrupt (speculation I might add)
So what are we going to do?
Under which party does the country and its people benefit most ?
The BLP or the DLP
What are we going to do
Enuff // December 4, 2009 at 8:53 PM
@ David
“..the BLP government fuelled economic growth based on construction and foreign direct investment i.e selling off our prime coastal lands?”
Selling off prime coastal lands? Rubbish!!
Adrian Hinds // December 4, 2009 at 9:33 PM
@ Peter 7
I working against any party that Mia Leads. I cannot in good conscience in a democracy, accept a party who’s Leader was picked by eight people, presumably against the wishes of thousands of party members.
@AC
De man apologize, I accept his apology. I did so on looking at his endevours previous to his utterance; by so doing I felt that he could not have had a deep dislike towards Barbadians base on race, color, and or creed.
Assuming that you disagree and therefore did not accept his apology please tell me why. Ridiculous? I don’t think so, Ashamed? don’t know how to be, but if you willing to pay me to be, I could fake it well. lol!
@Enuff
Man tell David how so, is his comment rubbish. You would want him to believe you no doubt!
Wishing In Vain // December 4, 2009 at 10:49 PM
This is stunning indeed, was there a co relation between their deparure and Don’t Bite Me Barnabas???
If there is a link it would absolutely funny!!!!
Mr Barnabas
It has now been brought to my attention exactly why the Leader of The Opposition and Forde left the Garrison Independence Ceremony on Sunday evening, it is quite an understanderable reason now that it has been fully explained.
I have been told by those that know Ms Mia Mottley very well that she felt that the DLP was disrespectful to her by allowing the Merrymen to sing Don’t Bite Me Barnabas, Don’t Bite Me at the Sunday Function.
Pretty childish if you ask me honestly
ac // December 4, 2009 at 10:58 PM
@Adrian Hinds
Firstly i was one of the few who accepted his first apology,
It doesn’tmatter to me on what terms or conditions past or present , how when or where you did accept the apology
However what does matter is how you and others cannot bring yourself to saying openly that he was wrong is saying what he said.
Speaking of “fake” you have already proven yourself as such i.e. “fake”
LOL
Enuff // December 4, 2009 at 11:46 PM
Most nations depend on FDI, whether for tourism development, natural resource extraction, manufacturing or agricultural production etc. The Bees according to David focused on FDI for coastal tourism; now it is up to the Dems to adopt their own approach or continue the former’s. What I do know is that the need for FDI will remain a key plank of the economic model, unless we are about to come into a hefty inheritance and I am no economist.
However, I was not addressing his description/interpretation of the former administration’s economic model, but more so what the ’selling off of coastal lands’ comment implies.
I don’t consider the redevelopment of existing sites to increase capacity ’selling off’, it gives the impression that VIRGIN lands were developed. If you drive down the west coast 95% of the new coastal projects were redevelopments of existing properties. The south Coast was a concrete jungle for years, and again most of the new developments were on lands with existing development.
I doubt very much that the trend would have been any different if it were the DLP in power during this period.
Compatibility is a key pillar of land use planning, and our southern and western coastal lands are for the most part suited to the type of development seen given what existed. Issues of scale, architectural design, beach access etc are separate and distinct to the issue of USE. What took place and continues, is just a natural progression influenced by the existing uses.
The so-called ’selling off’ would have occurred inland–Apes Hill, Westmoreland, Banyan, Lakes etc. A more apt claim would therefore have been the selling off of agricultural lands, which in itself is another debate.
Furthermore, as far as I know the lands sold belonged to private land owners, no?
David // December 5, 2009 at 1:21 AM
@Enuff
Does it matter if the coastal property sold was in private hands? What should have been of concern to you then and now is the lack of a coherent national policy governing how land resources change hands. This is of paramount concern to an island like Barbados, 21×14.
Adrian Hinds // December 5, 2009 at 1:40 AM
@AC
I cannot recall ever responding to anything you have said. Could be that I had agreed or whatever you said did not tickle my fancy.
It is likely that you treat my comments the same way. Contrary to what you are suggesting, I wrote the following.
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Adrian Hinds // December 2, 2009 at 5:59 PM
Poor choice of words? yes, to suggest chris as a racist for so uttering? nonsense.
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I took into consideration all that I have read and seen Chris do that benefited Barbadians. Where it that Chris had repeatedly offended Barbadians such as the Jamaican LIB was very fond of doing, then I would have been on your side, and cuss his ass out.
ac // December 5, 2009 at 8:09 AM
@Adrian
The issue for me is not about taking sides it but rather about speaking or telling whatis right and nomatter how good people think they are they at times messed up and if were are a true friend we let them know it.
The problem with you is that you are willing to give chris a pass on this comment because of as you put”everything he has done for Barbados” I commend him for his valiant efforts but I will reprimand him when he is wrong unlike you.
You effort in trying to blame the messenger is well taken by me.
ac // December 5, 2009 at 8:15 AM
@Adrian
I wonder if Mia Mottley had made the same comment taking all that you have said to come to your friend’s defense
Question ; Would you have been so easy to defend she too have done “good things for Barbados”
Have a nice life .
You jus don’t get it
Peace and out.
F
Adrian Hinds // December 5, 2009 at 12:43 PM
But AC when you speak up for what is right are you not taking a side? the “right” side? lol!
I did not give Chris a pass. I accepted his apology. You do understand the difference!
No blaming of the messenger. Negroman pretty much admitted that he use Chris’s transgression as a peak-hole into which he entered his much bigger argument concerning the plight of the black man.
If your wondering about Mia’s assume actions and my reaction is derived from my near constant opposition to her current intentions, please consider that I back her and Owen Arthur 212 percent in their bid to secure Barbados rights to its economic zone against Trinidad. Till this day I still believe that Thompson and the DLP got it wrong.
Enuff // December 5, 2009 at 2:06 PM
@ David,
“…the lack of a coherent national policy governing how land resources change hands. This is of paramount concern to an island like Barbados, 21×14.”
Am I to assume you are referring to the sale of land to non-nationals?
Wishing In Vain // December 6, 2009 at 9:38 PM
And we thought the fight was only between Owin and Mottley??
Well think again the fight is all through the BLP, with a Doctor putting together a plan to remove Mottley in short order, with the full support and blessings and involvement from Owing, the time is near.
David you need to investigate and report on the matter that raised its head today at a luncheon hosted by Mr Duguid for the senior citizens of his constituency.
Reports reaching me are that Forde is fuelling the flames to have Mr Duguid removed as the representative of the constituency, her grudge is that she feels that with him being away as often as he is away, that he is not providing service to the people but also too it is based on the fact that Mottley is not at peace with Duguid and she feels more at ease with the FEMALE DENTIST who has been seen spending more and more time in Mottley’s company.
So intent the Branch and Forde and Mottley are to remove him that they were the ones calling for the press to attend the luncheon so that the show of protest could be documented and displayed.
The luncheon was held and they were there to protest and so they did, but Duguid got his own back at Mottley and Forde by seeing them and not acknowledging any of them.
Alex Fergusson // December 7, 2009 at 10:08 AM
Why this vicious attack on women and on the Leader of the Opposition of Barbados – The Hon. Mia Amor Mottley, Q.C., M.P.,?
It is because the DLP is a male chauvinist party as stated by Mazie Barker-Welch?
Is it because Barbadians no longer have confidence in the DLP and are looking to Mia Mottley and Team Barbados Labour Party for the answers that the Dems obviously do not have?
It is why many now agree that the Barbados Labour Party – will win the next general election?
Wishing In Vain // December 7, 2009 at 11:27 PM
Why this vicious attack on women REALLY SOME SUGGEST SHE IS MORE OF THE OTHER MAKING THAN HOW SHE WAS DELIVERED TO THIS EARTH, DON’T MAKE PEOPLE LAUGH AT YOU CLOWNS EVEN MORE. and on the Leader of the Opposition of Barbados – The Hon. Mia Amor Mottley, Q.C., M.P.,
Wishing In Vain // December 7, 2009 at 11:30 PM
Let me say to you despite your wishes the next leader of this BLP will not be Mottley once the internal planning takes hold, between the Doctor and the short Runt from St Peter she is history, my question to you is how will she take will she stay and take it like a man or will she run and hide having suffer the major slap in the face??
Alex Fergusson // December 8, 2009 at 11:04 AM
Between 1994 and 2008 – the people of this country had a winner -in Team Barbados Labour Party – but there was a lapse in judgment on their part and on January 15th 2008 and they voted for the DLP. Ever since then Barbados has been on a free fall from prosperity to crisis.
The DLP failed and Barbados is falling-by the hour.
As a result, the people feel betrayed are disappointed and broken-hearted, because they now realise that they are paying for their error in their pockets and in their banks account and are forced to watch helplessly, as the DLP confiscate more and more of their wealth, daily through more taxation.
Essentially, the DLP is d-valuing and making Barbadians poor, while doing all in its power to protect hartley henry and serve CLICO.
But the people of this country can again do well and prosper with a renewed and recommitted, experience and competent Barbados Labour Party government – as they did between 1994 and 2008.
Were it asked to operate with the same global economic challenges, the Barbados Labour Party would be preparing a feast for the people of this country – not bellyaching and blaming – as the ruling outfit is now doing.
In fact, if the Barbados Labour Party was in office – this country would never be in the horrible position it now is because of the incompetence and reckless mismanagement by the DLP, which does not know what it s doing.
Wishing In Vain // December 8, 2009 at 12:07 PM
No this gov’t does not know corruption and dishonesty as you masterminded it to do.
Alex Fergusson // December 8, 2009 at 12:47 PM
David Thompson and the DLP have cancelled Christmas this year:
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Having triggered a meltdown of the Barbados economy, as a result of bad decision; poor judgment and flawed policy, which has so far seen over 6,000 people losing their jobs – Prime Minister Thompson has decided to go in for the kill and is tightening the screws even tighter on poor people.
Not satisfied after snatching over $180 million from the people in his 2008 inflationary budget – David Thompson increased Water rates by 60%, while his uncaring; inhumane Government is now turning off the water of 73-year-old-pensioners, who owe a mere $67.39 – even though Clico has a $93 million statutory fund deficit, that he is not concerned about.
But if Barbadians thought that that was going to be all for the year – David Thompson went at it again.
As a result, poor people who were trying desperately to buy food- now have to pay more for Kerosene to cook it.
On their little pensions – old ladies are finding that they are likely to starve this Christmas, because the water cost 60% more, the cost of living keeps going up and now David Thompson has sent up Kerosene.
Why has the DLP launched an unprovoked attack on poor people at Christmas?
In what can only be described as the most wicked and vindictive act – even by this uncaring; inhumane DLP government standards, poor people in Barbados – who are already reeling from a 60% increase in their water bills – will now have to fork-out more for kerosene.
The simple point that I am trying to make is that as a result of the economic mis-management of the DLP, which does not know what it is doing – poor people who were already struggling with high cost of living – will now have to also deal with having to pay more for kerosene.
AND WHILE THE POOR PEOPLE OF BARBADOS STRUGGLE – THOMPSON SAYS THAT HE DOES NOT HAVE A CASH-FLOW PROBLEM.
David Thompson and the DLP are turning off old ladies water for $67.39 but gave CLICO $20 million; wrote off $19 million for the Turf Club and does not care that CLICO does not have the $93 million a fund that the law says it should have.
Alex Fergusson // December 9, 2009 at 12:46 PM
The DLP’s Independence Bashment Fete is Environmentally and Energy un-friendly and the Auditor General must take note.
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No one has yet stated exactly how much has the DLP’s Independence bashment Fete will cost the same taxpayer’s who cannot get their Income Tax Returns and who were not allowed to pee in those high-cost-air- conditioned-toilets, that were specially provided for DLP Ministers.
But it is a national scandal that – right in the middle of an economic crisis, which was triggered by the DLP – that the same DLP would turn around and add to the national expenditure bill by making our National-Traditional- Dignified, Independence Parade – an environmentally un-friendly bashment fete.
Instead of utilizing natural Bajan sunlight during the day – the DLP has increased the national energy bill by holding a bashment fete at night on the Garrison, thereby requiring expensive-high-powered lights.
Then there is the cost of tents, chairs, stage and other lighting, the air conditioned toilets for DLP Minister; chemical toilets for poor people and drinks for DLP Minister.
The cost of this bashment fete must be captured by the Auditor General, as not complying with the Financial Rules, thereby requiring a deduction from the salaries of DLP Ministers.
This is further evidence that the DLP does not know what it is doing and is therefore an unjustifiable expense to Barbadian taxpayers.
The Independence Bashment fete, as conceptualized by the DLP, is not energy or environmentally friendly.
It is what it is: unnecessary cost to the taxpayers but the DLP will argue that it is part of the: “David Thompson fatted calf doctrine.”
Alex Fergusson // December 11, 2009 at 5:55 PM
David Thompson, who sent home over 52 at the UDC (over time) and will also send home an equal amount from the BWA next year – now says that he is creating 500 jobs.
Meanwhile, the 850 who lost their jobs at Four Seasons are still home and no employee in Barbados know if he or she will have a job next month.
Wishing In Vain // December 11, 2009 at 8:55 PM
Let me take you back to the headline of this topic and I ask you to Tell Barbadians why your standin leader and Forde refused to attend the formal part of the Independence Ceremony at the Garrison?????
Wishing In Vain // December 12, 2009 at 6:31 PM
And we are still waitin in vain I would say to hear why you and you lot walked out of the Ceremony???
Let me take you back to the headline of this topic and I ask you to Tell Barbadians why your standin leader and Forde refused to attend the formal part of the Independence Ceremony at the Garrison?????
Alex Fergusson // December 14, 2009 at 11:38 AM
@ Wishing In Vain
The DLP’s ongoing allegation of corruption is yet another in its never-ending-series of big lies.
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On what basis could the DLP constantly accuse the former administration of corruption, especially when at that time – Transparency International was telling the entire world that the countries, which hartley henry was advising – were far more corrupt than Barbados, which – then under BLP stewardship – was the least corrupt in the Caribbean?
The truth is that despite the aggressive efforts of Denis Lowe, George Bispham and others within the last two years to dominate and feed at the trough, which have resulted in a Cabinet reshuffle and the holding of two retreats – their efforts are still not enough to cause Barbados to lose its prestigious rating as the least corrupt country in the Caribbean – according to Transparency International. Why?
Because in terms of bribery, collusion and corruption, Barbados under the stewardship of Team Barbados Labour Party – was crystal clear and squeaky clean.
This therefore points to the folly of the allegation by the DLP.
It must also be note that it was Team BLP, which amended the Financial Administration and Audit (Financial) Rules, 1971 Cap. 5 of the laws of Barbados to make Minister personally liable for all public funds misspent or wasted, where the PS warned in writing against them (Ministers) doing such.
ROK // December 14, 2009 at 11:48 AM
@Alex Fergusson
Who is George Bispham?
Alex Fergusson // December 14, 2009 at 12:36 PM
Another DLP Disaster
Barbadians have seen a DLP disaster before (1991-1994) but nothing to compare with what the DLP has done between January 15, 2008 and now.
This country is in serious trouble. It is why in their wisdom and in a patriotic effort to avert the DLP doing further damage – the people of Barbados are turning to the competent, experienced and skilled team of the Barbados Labour Party.
The people of Barbados accept and are also aware that during the time of prosperity – the Hon. Mia Amor Mottley, Q.C., M.P., was right there in the drivers seat with her hands planted firmly on the wheel, providing sound leadership and direction.
They know that Miss Mottley has already unveiled a fresh, innovative and progressive vision for Barbados and has the competence, skills and leadership ability and experience to stop the free fall and put Barbados back on the highway to prosperity, growth and progress.
The people of Barbados are aware that for the past 71 years, the Barbados Labour Party and its unmatched economic leadership – has been a beacon of hope and a safe harbour in times of dangerous storms, as has now been manufactured by the DLP.
This is only the worst crisis ever because the incompetent-DLP, which does not know what it is doing – is in office. If the BLP was in office at this time – Barbados would never be in this position and faced with these same conditions it would be preparing a feast for Barbadians not making them suck salts as the DLP now does.
Alex Fergusson // December 17, 2009 at 3:54 PM
Since the PM said that there is no cash-flow problem, what is the reason why salaries are not being paid – as they have been for the past 49 years?
It cannot be an interpretation of the law because the Insurance Act is very clear on the issue of the Statutory Fund.
That Act is not being enforced and the question must therefore be asked – why the selective application of interpretation of the law as it relates to Section 24 (2) (a) of the Financial Administration and Audit Act, (L.R.O. 2002) which provides:
24. (2) “Notwithstanding any provision to the contrary in any enactment, the Accountant-General may
(a) “pay all fixed claims on the Government in respect of salaries, services, pensions and allowances on such day after the eighteenth day of the month for which those fixed claims are due as he may determine.”
All I can say is that this is another: “wait-and-see.”
Wait and see if the government gets money between now and Monday, so that it can pay salaries.
In short, David Thompson is a Prime Minister without a “plan.”
His vision for Barbados in an economic crisis, which he triggered, is: “wait-and-see.”