Is This Another Example of Rude Boy Behaviour Among Our Youth Mr. Farley?

Posted on March 11, 2010 by David | 85 Comments

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85 Responses to Is This Another Example of Rude Boy Behaviour Among Our Youth Mr. Farley?

David | March 11, 2010 at 7:07 PM |

We want the the BU family to give the children the benefit of the doubt that they are being creative as far as artistic license goes.

BU has messed with the resolution to protect the children but the video is out there.
bajejun | March 11, 2010 at 7:46 PM |

Sorry David, can’t agree with you, there is nothing about this video that needs protecting. These children need to be dealt with. We tend to give too much let sometimes.
Anonymous | March 11, 2010 at 7:48 PM |

Vile. just vile. Not taking sides either, but the girl’s behaviour is especially revolting. God help us.
David | March 11, 2010 at 7:51 PM |

For what it is worth BU sent the video to the headmaster for his action. Sometimes children will make mistakes and a second chance may make the difference.
Christopher Halsall | March 11, 2010 at 7:54 PM |
Austin | March 11, 2010 at 8:02 PM |

It’s a fact that when modern day youth feel left out of society they resort to rudeboyism, just look worldwide for the proof…. Hence why I am moved by the lack of opportunity we seem to be creating for our youth.. We have to show the value in high marks at school and the answer is not a servatude job in a fancy hotel… The worst is yet to come if we don’t deal with our youth in a opportunity focused manner, just look at Jamaica… Get off the high horse people and walk de yard or the yard will walk we…. Investing in good paying job for our youth in good times or bad is essential….
Austin | March 11, 2010 at 8:07 PM |

De question ain’t for mr.farley it’s for we… What will our answer be…. More money to bajan fat cat politicians and white boys… Or a real movement for change for chance is coming… The question is what type… In Jamaica you can’t leave a resort without the risk of robbery or worst… We headed for that if we don’t recognize…
Just stop! | March 11, 2010 at 8:27 PM |

So are we going to generalize because there’s a minority group of children doing what children have always done?
There are so many positive things the young people are doing.
The country has its highest level of university graduates in history. CXC results (though they can be better) have never been better.
The young people are involved in sports and arts. At no time in our history have so many young Barbadian artists been signed to international record labels.
Highlight the positives too!
David | March 11, 2010 at 8:32 PM |

@Just stop

Continue to stick your head in the sand.

Why do you think Minister Ronald Jones met with Church leaders and others today?

Why do you think there are plans afoot to amend the law to ban children from minibuses?

In fact why don’t you give Mathew Farley a call and let him narrate one day in the life of a headmaster to you?
ac | March 11, 2010 at 8:35 PM |

@austin

It would have been good i you had seen the video for what it is presenting. You know what would happen to me if i display such behaviour in or out of public. The children in the video seem to have never been taught selfrespect or any kind of respect. Blame the parents
who are turning out these wild and wacky children.
Just stop! | March 11, 2010 at 8:47 PM |

Continue to stick your head in the sand.

Why do you think Minister Ronald Jones met with Church leaders and others today?
SO WHAT WILL THIS ACHIEVE. ARE WE GOING TO MANDATE BIBLES IN THE SCHOOL NEXT?

Why do you think there are plans afoot to amend the law to ban children from minibuses?

THIS IS AS SILLY AS THE MINISTER WHO UTTERED THE WORDS. LET’S SEE HOW THIS IS GOING TO WORK.
HOW WILL YOU DEFINE A “SCHOOL CHILD?”
IS THAT A CHILD WHO’S IN UNIFORM? WILL THEY HAVE TO SHOW ID.
WILL THIS BAN BE IN EFFECT ON PUBLIC HOLIDAYS AND WEEKENDS?
WHAT IF A CHILD DECIDES TO LEAVE HOME FOR WHATEVER REASON AFTER SCHOOL AND DECIDES TO TAKE A MINIBUS? WILL IT BE ENFORCED THEN.

In fact why don’t you give Mathew Farley a call and let him narrate one day in the life of a headmaster to you?

MR. FARLEY, I’M SURE, WAS INTERVIEWED FOR THE JOB, RECEIVES A GOOD SALARY AND ALL THE PERQUISITES THAT COME WITH THE JOB. HE NEEDS TO FIND CREATIVE WAYS TO WORK WITH YOUNG PEOPLE AND INSPIRE THEM TO GREATNESS INSTEAD OF BEATING THEM DOWN AT EVERY STEP OF THE WAY.

I MAINTAIN THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF BARBADIAN YOUTH ARE DECENT AND LAW ABIDING LIKE THEIR ADULT PEERS.

THE ONLY DIFFERENCE WITH THE VIDEO YOU POSTED AND MY OWN EXPERIENCE IN THE 70S IS THAT THEY HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY TO RECORD IT.
Christopher Halsall | March 11, 2010 at 9:00 PM |

@All…

And let us please all recognize what is recorded here in the video evidence…

The male started the interaction.

The female finished it.

As usual.
David | March 11, 2010 at 9:02 PM |

@just stop

You miss the point of the questions asked. The questions asked highlight the concerns of a society battling heavy influences from outside Barbados and a changing Barbados demographic.

Even if what you believe is true i.e this behaviour is something that was around before technology, the fact that the technology is now present should we ignore what we see?
Bush Tea | March 11, 2010 at 9:06 PM |

Wait David,

…are you saying that ‘just stop’ is incorrect? Those fact are indeed true, however, it is also true that there is a growing level of ill manners, rowdyism and crudeness.

You asked “Why do you think there are plans afoot to amend the law to ban children from minibuses?”

The answer is:
Because we always jump to waste money dealing with symptoms- rather than get to the root of problems and deal with issues there. A clear case if simple-mindedness, but it makes us feel like we are ‘doing something’.
…children will miss behave where ever given an opportunity to do so without fear of consequences.

Our problems lie
in our homes where adults are only focused on making money and living the glamorous lifestyle;
in our Schools where the wrong persons are selected as teachers and especially principals and senior teachers;
and in our churches where, as we see here on BU, no logical discussion and learning is possible due to the hard line attitudes displayed by the so called preachers…… Modern children WILL NOT accept clear nonsense, and so they rebel and follow the ‘bad-boy cultures’ to make a point. Most often, underneath that ‘bad boy mask’ is potential beyond belief….
Adrian Hinds | March 11, 2010 at 9:06 PM |

now which uh wunnuh would allow that fouled mouth girl to come up in your face, start an altercation with you, and you not defend yourself? Later on in life she may want to present herself as lady like and worthy to be somebody wife. chupse.
ac | March 11, 2010 at 9:14 PM |

Yeah how well do i remember those afterschool brawls outside the school and on the schoolbus,but you know what the parents had to step to the plate and were held responsible for the childs behaviour .
THese children were eventually suspended by the school they attended.THis problem can be easily resolved if the schools play a more formidable role in seeking out these disruptive children and suspending them
Anonymous | March 11, 2010 at 9:18 PM |

“Later on in life she may want to present herself as lady like and worthy to be somebody wife.”

Exactly! Scary stuff!!!
Just stop! | March 11, 2010 at 9:26 PM |

Why are you all so judgmental?
The problem in the video is clear.
They are two young people who do not have enough vocabulary (verbal and non-verbal) to resolve conflict peacefully.
They are two people who are a product of a violent society where adults are abusive to each other and to children on a daily basis.
They are part of a society where a senior teacher canes students in public and is applauded for his actions. Instead of teaching them the necessary skills to navigate complex society, we sit in judgment of them and already cast aspersions on the young girl’s future.
Just look at yourselves.
How many of you have given up of your time to go and mentor a teen who’s in need of help, guidance or just a surrogate parent.

Easy to sit in front of a screen and judge, ins’t it?
Bush Tea | March 11, 2010 at 9:30 PM |

@ Adrian

Spoken like a man who went to school in the 70′s.

When we created ‘CO-EDUCATION’ in the 80′s, we introduced a culture in our schools which REQUIRE our girls to be rude, loud and aggressive – (or to submit herself to a big rough looking rudeboy )in order to survive the school experience.
Of course we know that the boys are lost developmentally between ages 12 and 16 compared to the girls, so they focus instead on sex and ‘bad boy influence’

You think that those ‘highty tighty ‘ miss ‘goody-two-shoes’ girls that you knew back then could exist in a co-ed school nowadays? (except one of the private schools?)

Different culture AH….. give the poor children a break.

…we mek we bed – so we got to lie in um.

The girls in school (even the good ones) are forced to adopt the EXACT language and attitude that you saw in that video in order to survive the JUNGLE that is now our schools.
The only thing that Mr Farley can punish her for is getting videotaped…… cause he CANNOT guarantee to protect the girl as principal – so he has to let he adopt the only defense that she can. He cannot even send home a vagabond…

We continue to make foolish decisions in important areas – often advised by first world jokers from the World Bank and IADB and aided by retarded politicians and civil servants who know not what they do….
David | March 11, 2010 at 9:33 PM |

Who is judging?

BU has highlighted a growing problem of deviant behaviour.

The youth represent the future of our country.

We saw the escalation in deviant behaviour recently at the inter-school sports.

BU has written extensively about the weeds which have started to appear on our lawn.

We will continue to highlight.
David | March 11, 2010 at 9:36 PM |

@Bush Tea

You forgot political scientist!
Bush Tea | March 11, 2010 at 10:04 PM |

LOL David,

Political Scientist!

…even the term is an oxymoron.
J | March 11, 2010 at 10:38 PM |

Dear David:

You had no business publishing this. Publishing children engaging in a violent altercation is just as disgusting as publishing children engaging in sex. In more civilized countries you would be prosecuted and hopefully jailed.

I am not sure if you understand that people have been angry with each other since Cain got angry with Abel and cut his *as*-h*le throat. They were probably just teenagers then too.

Anger and violence have been a part of human society from its very beginnings.

I get the impression that many of the people who have commented here are offended because the girl was willing to respond to the assault with violent words and violent actions.

In fact her response is correct.

Women who shrink from a violent attack by a male are more likely to suffer a more serious assault than those who meet threats and violence with greater threats and greater violence.

I have in fact taught my daughters NEVER to accept a violent assault especially a violent assaut by a male.

If he hits you, hit him back, twice as many times and twice as hard, and if you cannot manage on your own, call me.

And to Adrian Hinds a good number of those old fashioned “worthy wives” suffered verbal, sexual, physical assaults, and other indignities in silence, or they cried softly so the neighbours would’t hear. Adrian boy those days dead and gone.

The “worthy wife” who was my childhood next door neighbour died of AIDS at 67. Her worthy husband had ALWAYS run around but because she was a “worthy wife” she accepted it. I hope those days dead too.
J | March 11, 2010 at 10:43 PM |

First we will take you university places, then your jobs, then your houses, then your children, and if you dare to hit us then we will cut your *ss.
Anonymous | March 11, 2010 at 10:52 PM |

Did I see the same video, J? The girl seemed to be the aggressor and got a licking (deservedly) from the boy.
Bush Tea | March 11, 2010 at 10:59 PM |

@ J
Thank you for personalizing the problem that I have been trying to explain. Anyone who has been intimately involved in the school system since the 90′s ,or with children that they care about in the system, knows of what we speak (especially teachers know -but those cowards won’t say a word publicly)

You say:
“First we will take you university places, then your jobs, then your houses, then your children, and if you dare to hit us then we will cut your *ss.”
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Wanna almost there now….. You will soon have your wish.
But do you realize Ms J, that you are defining a doomed society? Trust me,

No men means…
No leadership
No safety
No vision
No future
…..not to mention no real sex
Bush Tea | March 11, 2010 at 11:01 PM |

@ anonymous

These things start long before the video is turned on….
ac | March 11, 2010 at 11:15 PM |

@BUSH TEA

These things start long before the video is turn on

Yeah in the home!

The government can’t solve all of society social problems .Yes they can put certain programs in place to keep kids on the strait and narrow, but these children would also need the support and guidance of the home which as seen in the video is terribly lacking.
Anonymous | March 11, 2010 at 11:23 PM |

What I like about J is that once you pressure her a bit, the truth will come out! J got a man. A good man, never hit her, he never thought about it and he probably helps about the house as well. J probably makes sure the man comfortable and makes his tea every night. The man well fed and satisfied (if yuh know what I mean). J only hear about abuse. Her father was a good man (she say so), her brothers good men (raise bright daughters too) and J son is a good man too (she tell we so). J could talk big and bad because like plenty other women in this blessed land, J only know good men. Black, big nosed, bow foot, kinky haired men. Good proper men all of dem! J you got a daughter (I think) and nieces (I know that for sure) who they going bring home…Miss Mabel or Mr Abel?
Bush Tea | March 11, 2010 at 11:30 PM |

@ ac

Good point about the home, but consider this…….

If Government creates a situation in our schools where COMMON SENSE and raw SURVIVAL instincts dictates to an intelligent youngster that a certain kind of behavior if NEEDED to get through the 10 years of school, it will take a very strong home environment to overcome the urge to conform- even for a good child.

What most children will do is maintain a sweet face on the home front, but put on the kind of face that we saw in the video on the street, and in school (away from the teachers)

Many of the mothers who run to court claiming that their children are REAL sweet actually think so fuh truth hear…?

The SYSTEM is a problem.

We (society) OWE it to our children to provide a safe, clean, wholesome environment for school. ..and we have failed to do so.

…by the way, you done wid BAFBFP yet…?
…’cause I could offa yuh a proper bush bath as yuh ready….
ac | March 11, 2010 at 11:47 PM |

@BuSH TEA

We society OWE it to our children to provide a safe clean , wholesome enviroment for school …and we have failed to do so.

That works both ways also in the home in which thses misfits lived and the PARENTS HAVE FAILED TO DO SO.
The goevernment should not be in the business of running the home. They only concern should be that of putting good educational programs in place whixh would be of benefit to society in general.
You can take a horse to the water but you can’t make it drink.These kids need proper guidance and direction
LIsten to the language they were using in the video . That too must not be overlooked.

II was planing to take BAFBFP to the South Of France
when i go on vacation. I think he got cold feet.

Bush Tea bath. Very interesting.
kiki | March 12, 2010 at 5:45 AM |

In the UK / USA school girls / gangs are the rowdiest
islander | March 12, 2010 at 7:38 AM |

Now you see why we need to take drastic action to take back our kids from this zr / reggae gazza gully culture ! and maybe we can see firsthand what Farley has to deal with, u cant deal with these kids with kidsglove, u have to use drastic measures for drastic situations…. and let me tell u i am from one of the older secondary schools but this is not pigieon holed into the newer ones, its ALLLLL our youths ! in the ghettos and the heights … see the culture in the husbands oxnards area
islander | March 12, 2010 at 7:45 AM |

wow ! i just read J’s comment….u are wayyyy off base sister, that little girl put her life and limb in real danger by goading on that boy(which is silly as he is obviously bigger) i wouldnt say she got what she deserved, because i dont beleive in a male hitting a female, but at that age, most boys wont turn away from that type of disrepect, Futhermore how stupid can u be to give ur daughter the advice to hit back twice as hard ? hahaha, u trying to get the girl kill ? most women are not even strong enuff, further more the best course of action is to find some type of authrity afffter, removing urself from the situation so as to avoid getting or giving an unlucky blow, how silly
kiki | March 12, 2010 at 9:27 AM |

Magnificent a.k.a Magno
Hoes down G’s up
ru4real | March 12, 2010 at 9:28 AM |

It was stupid advice.
The girl stood in serious risk of being hurt.
The boy has never been taught by his father to respect women
and the girl needs her mouth washed out with soap and water but I suspect she has been subjected many times to disrespectful behavior from males .
rude boy behavior is a daily feature of life now.
Adrian Hinds | March 12, 2010 at 9:56 AM |

BT I went to all boys’ primary and Secondary schools. I have six sisters, and have been married for 15 plus years, and I am looking forward to another 15 years. I AM VERY GLAD THAT I WENT TO AN ALL BOYS SCHOOL.

On Wednesday I was a chaperone with my son’s class trip to the Boston Museum of Science. I sat in the back of the Bus, and declared “who wants to sit with me” all the boys plus 3 girls did. The Boys had so many questions for me and I enthusiastically answered, and engaged them. The girls’ motive for sitting with us was one of the Boys that they fancied. For the entire bus ride they pestered him with comments about honeymoons, dates etc. I say pestered because they did not seem interested in them. In fact he interacted with me the most. Ages range from 9 to 11.

Raising Cain is book that help me strengthened my objections to across the board co-ed education and stories like the following.

http://blackinformant.wordpress.com/2006/09/06/chicagos-first-charter-school-for-boys/

The sad thing is that Barbados is on course to go through the same liberal progressive changes that leads us back to what we know works. Fixing things that are not broken, no real progress.
JC | March 12, 2010 at 10:14 AM |

Wanna almost there now….. You will soon have your wish.
But do you realize Ms J, that you are defining a doomed society? Trust me,

No men means…
No leadership
No safety
No vision
No future
…..not to mention no real sex
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@ Bush Tea

I AGREE WITH THIS STATEMENT WHOLEHEARTEDLY!

J is a psycho LOL!
David | March 12, 2010 at 12:28 PM |

Did anyone listen to Brasstacks today when Stetson the ‘tueeeeesday edition’ Babb made the point that the behaviour of the young people today is nothing new, soon after he made the additional point that the Jamaican dub culture was playing a negative part on behaviours being manifested by many of our youth.

Oh boy!

Also Babb must be aware that even if children back in the day cussout like it is being portrayed in the video above they better not let an adult, stranger or not witness the incident.
IGNORAMUS | March 12, 2010 at 12:40 PM |

WOMEN ARE DESTROYING THIS NATION

WOMEN
Christopher Halsall | March 12, 2010 at 12:42 PM |

@IGNORAMUS: “WOMEN ARE DESTROYING THIS NATION

What are the men doing?
FedUP | March 12, 2010 at 2:45 PM |

Some people wait until the pigeon gets out the cage and then complain when they (people) are the ones who took no precaution to avoid from happening. Yet these same people find anything and everyone to blame but themselves.

It’s the ADULTS who set the example and our youths ape what they see and hear. When embarrassment steps in the adults want to turn around and criticize the youths and in some instances punish them for what all of a sudden they (adults) deem as inappropriate behavior.

Parents, adults, you cannot have it both ways – in the glass and in the spoon too. Stop sending mixed signals to our youths.

What are some of the ways in which there could be a workable plan to curb this type of behavior especially in public.
David | March 12, 2010 at 6:55 PM |

Ok, let us ignore the deviant behaviour which is on the up and up. Let us satisfy the problem by saying this same thing use to happen when we were children.

As a society we have to accept the challenge which this generation presents, it is different for each generation. We live in a society where materialism is rampant than ever before, we have the mindset which permits sexual freedom like never before. We have the information and technology age which impacts behaviours like never before. We have families which don’t have the support of the village structures.

Let us not forget the teachers who see their role through different eyes compared to the teachers of yesterday.

Lastly we have an impersonal society where most people don’t feel obligated to reach-out to strangers and neighbours.

The problem is multifaceted and cannot be solved by adopting superficial tactics like big-brother or mentoring like some have suggested. The weeds are truly sprouting on the lawns.
Confirmed Hypocrite | March 12, 2010 at 7:31 PM |

The problem is multifaceted and cannot be solved by adopting superficial tactics like big-brother or mentoring like some have suggested

You forgot to mention banning said children from PSV’s or banning dancehall artiste from performing in the country, but still playing their music to attract the same youngsters you claim you are protecting, in order to exploit them financially and otherwise.
ac | March 12, 2010 at 7:32 PM |

@David

Accept what challenge. After all the children should not be allowed to set the rules. The society as a whole set the standards by which these children should abide,that is why we are having a generation
of children gone wild. The children have figured out that society has no power to affect the change in their behaviour so they set the rules and we the adults accept them
EyeSpy | March 12, 2010 at 7:37 PM |

There is a lot o talk, signs of frustration, criticism etc, yet no one seems to be no potential solution.

Don’t look down on our youths unless you are willing to pick them up.
ac | March 12, 2010 at 7:42 PM |

@Eye Spy

The youth has allowed people to look down on them with their disgusting behaviour which i firmly point the balme to the parents.
Confirmed Hypocrite | March 12, 2010 at 7:54 PM |

For ever child displaying disgusting beahviour in public, you can easily find five or more adults doing worse.

Imitation is still the greatest form of flattery, no?
Sapidillo | March 12, 2010 at 8:16 PM |

@FedUP // March 12, 2010 at 2:45 PM // “What are some of the ways in which there could be a workable plan to curb this type of behavior especially in public.”

A Thought – could parents, teachers, et al put their heads together, although it is not going to be easy, to seek out a plan that is practicable and be accepted by the majority. I’m sure you’ll never be able to please all the people, but nothing beats a trial but a failure.

We cannot give up on our youths.
ac | March 12, 2010 at 8:35 PM |

In every society they are going to be children no matter how hard society try to get them involved in programs which would make a positive difference in their lives is going to accept them.
Question : What does a society do with them.
I don’t think that society as a whole want to give up on them. However government would need to take drastic measures in helping to turn around the lives of these children. Putting band aids on those kind of problems would only prolong the agony.
The only solution would be for the parents and government to work together to find a solution.Unless a person seeks help they can be no solution.
kiki | March 12, 2010 at 8:56 PM |

In America social clubs / sports teams / dance groups / music groups / choirs etc set up activities and competitions for kids in ghetto areas
David | March 13, 2010 at 11:04 AM |

Our information is this specific matter has been addressed by relevant parties. Let us hope the intervention by concerned adults who drew attention to this matter will act to change the lifes of the children highlighted in the video for the better.
Ready Done | March 13, 2010 at 11:30 AM |

Hi to every one that take the time to comment on the video. In my opinion i don’t think that girl going to act that way again. She learn her lesson, i sure she will find a different way to handle any similar situations in the future.

I also have eyes and see the rise in indecent behavior by society in general, but i also see that certain circles in this society(namely rich people) have been doing it the right way and continue to do it the right way, why is it then that bad behavior comes for mostly poor people?

Is good behavior not affordable?
Bush Tea | March 13, 2010 at 12:16 PM |

@ Ready Done
You said:
I also have eyes and see the rise in indecent behavior by society in general, but i also see that certain circles in this society(namely rich people) have been doing it the right way and continue to do it the right way, why is it then that bad behavior comes for mostly poor people?
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You need an ophthalmologist friend – urgently!
Fair & Balance | March 13, 2010 at 12:29 PM |

Is this Video stage? My wife who is a teacher looked at it and told me it look stage.
(1) School children usually hide when a video camera is around.
(2) Usually when there is an altercation between school children other children tend to be involve (the girl crew vrs the boy crew)

My wife said it look like kids seeking attention which is usually the case from her experience.
David can you say if it was stage?
David | March 13, 2010 at 12:36 PM |

@Fair & Balance

This was the very first comment, maybe you missed it:

We want the the BU family to give the children the benefit of the doubt that they are being creative as far as artistic license goes.

BU has messed with the resolution to protect the children but the video is out there.

BU’s position is that it doesn’t matter, whether it was staged or not, it is the language used. If your wife’s conclusion is correct, it still supports the point that we have a problem.
kiki | March 13, 2010 at 12:45 PM |

Warning * some new kiddie cultures and disturbing trends are
1. kids ‘happy slapping’ i.e. beating up strangers and filming it on phones, sending the videos to each other and sticking it on youtube (some old and homeless people have been murdered, set on fire etc)
2. filming each other doing death defying tricks such as cliff jumping, surfing on trains / cars
3. filming themselves having sex in parties in front of crowds of watchers cheering
4. This has become extreme incidents like filming themselves before shooting classmates maybe as a form of suicide and to become infamous worldwide
(which will probably be videoed in the future)
Ready Done | March 13, 2010 at 12:58 PM |

@ Bush Tea i tend to agree with you in most cases but this time your dead wrong or very misinformed.

Do you think this behavior is as prevalent in private schools as it is in schools where the majority of pupils are from what is considered working class families?

Surly a privet school student has more access to a digital camera and unsupervised internet than a student from the school in question. So how is it that all the videos we see online are from non privet schools?

If i had the money i would pay for my child to go to a privet school to, its worth it.

The atmosphere is totally different, you don’t get this questionable behavior from privet schools, i think that is why the problem has been allowed to get out of control too.
Bush Tea | March 13, 2010 at 1:28 PM |

@ Ready Done,

You done know that you is my pal, ….man you even got me thinking aquaphonics…. but trust me RD, the only difference in behavior between the rich and the poor is in the ability to hide things up after the fact.

If fact, should you be able to afford to send your children to a private school, you will find that the difference is that there, they cuss and behave badly in the back of a BMW or on the patio of a penthouse – or on a yacht on weekend…..

There is indeed a class of children who distinguish themselves by their behavior and decorum – this has nothing to do with rich or poor though, it is related to the standards held and practiced by their parents, extended family, and close associates…..(things like church, club, scouts etc)

Generally children who respect themselves do so because they will not disrespect those (parents especially) that love them.
Those who feel unloved, unwanted, or unimportant could not care less…. indeed, some deliberate misbehave specifically to seek attention /revenge for perceived neglect.

….so you can send your son /daughter to any good school – the trick is to have good personal morals and standards for yourself; and to love and respect your child – and you only then have to fear the idiotic system that is put in place by our leaders, which places additional pressures on our children above those which come naturally with the teen years….
Ready Done | March 13, 2010 at 2:10 PM |

Generally children who respect themselves do so because they will not disrespect those (parents especially) that love them.

WELL SAID!!!!! %100 in agreement with you.

So i going to shift my position (a little) and say, standards held and practiced by parents, extended family, and close associates of rich kids are totally different/better to those of poor people.

And the idiotic system that is put in place by our leaders for the poor ones needs to emulate the efforts of the privet schools, there is no need to look other places for answers just look at what the privet school teachers are doing and copy that in public schools.

I guess it all comes down to the fact that teaching is a ‘government job’ in Barbados and ‘government jobs’ in Barbados are currently viewed the wrong way. There needs to be a system in place where government workers are paid for the work they do, and not just because they are ‘appointed’.

Every privately operated counterpart to a government owned enterprise consistently outperforms it in all areas.

Government does good but it needs to be ‘privatized’ to continue to be efficient.

(THANK YOU FATHER, THE RAIN FALLING!!!!!)
David | March 13, 2010 at 3:01 PM |

The Lowdown – Foster care

Published on: 3/12/2010.

BY RICHARD HOAD

IT WAS a typical David and Goliath story. For 20 years I’d battled to find a Roberts feed that my goats would eat consistently. One batch would be okay; the next batch, many wouldn’t touch.

This is a farmer’s nightmare. We usher eight goats at a time into the milking parlour; the feed holds their attention until we can lock them in place. If they won’t eat the feed, it is utter chaos. They mill around, jump off the parlour, don’t give milk.

For two decades I’d pleaded with Roberts’ sales reps and management. Told them which batches were palatable and which weren’t. They couldn’t help. We had to keep different batches and types of feed on hand to coax the reluctant.

By chance I mentioned in a column that no one at Roberts seemed to care about palatability. Not so, claimed managing director David Foster. And to prove his point, he figured out which ingredient might be turning off the goats, substituted something more palatable, and personally brought me three bags to try.

In the Barbadian context, we’re talking about a genuine miracle here. In one day, one man, a true David, corrected a nightmare that we were told for 20 years couldn’t be solved. Since then, all the goats rush in to gobble up the Foster-formulated feed, batch after batch. I still can’t believe it.

Okay, let’s move from Foster care to a full gallop.

Or rather Gollop. In response to a query as to whether Government could restrict schoolchildren’s choice to travel on minivans, learned jurisprude Hal Gollop expounded on the formidable powers our constitution gives to Parliament under the so-called "omnibus" clause.

The omnibus clause guarantees that all parliamentarians may travel free on the appropriate Government omnibus providing they are wearing school uniform. More importantly (and truthfully), it gives Parliament the all-embracing power to "make laws for the peace, order and good government of Barbados", subject to the provision of the Constitution.

Putting it another way, some wit once observed that a Prime Minister of Barbados "can do virtually anything except turn a woman into a man. And maybe even that".

Alas, what a dangerous two-edged sword this is! For, if we have given our leaders almost unlimited powers far in excess of, say, the president of the United States, it therefore must follow that, wherever they have failed to institute measures for the peace, order and good government of Barbados, they must be held fully accountable.

And, if truth be told, they have not delivered. Day after day, month after month, year after year, administration after administration, reshuffle after reshuffle, we hear the same problems trotted out in political speeches, in the Press, on the call-in programmes.

To wit: a largely non-performing civil service, youth indiscipline, praedial larceny, stray livestock, uninsured vehicles on the road, ZR culture, rampant drug trade, stalled death penalty, widespread littering and disregard for the environment, fast-food obesity, illegal guns, declining agriculture, traffic chaos, noise pollution, wasteful water management, Queen Elizabeth Hospital horrors, boys dropping out of society.

Not only have successive leaders failed to solve even one of these long-standing problems; they haven’t even made a dent.

You may want to get cynical and come up with reasons. Maybe politicians don’t want to antagonise supporters in the criminal fraternity. Maybe they worry the shock of getting something right would be too much and we Bajans might all keel over. I don’t know.

But I am proposing a Biblical solution. When the giant Goliath was taunting the Israelites, they were in a similarly hopeless situation. In desperation, they gave the job to little David, a shepherd boy who had had previous success against marauding wolves. Two big rocks later, Goliath was history. No problemo!

We have our own David (Foster) who hath wrought a mighty miracle with goat feed. We have nothing to lose. Make him executive Prime Minister with omnibus powers. Loose him on our insoluble Goliath-like problems. And watch them tumble.

Maybe he won’t clear up all the mess in one go. But I have confidence he can deliver. Watch out for his mighty stones, though.
Bush Tea | March 13, 2010 at 3:11 PM |

@ Ready Done

….at least you are willing to shift your position a bit in the face of strong logic….. unlike certain others that we know of…. LOL

So let me see if I can shift you a bit more- or if you can shift a seed picker.

Now you agree with me that it mostly boils down to LOVE and RESPECT… yet you continue to see the matter in terms of rich and poor.

….are you saying that the poor do not know how to love and respect each other and their children?

…are you saying that rich people are more loving and respectful than the poor?

Do you know any poor families whose children are model citizens and who are blessings to their families? (i know of many…)

…want BT to name (list) some rich scamps and vagabonds? (we could fill pages…)

With respect to the difference between private and government schools, it is strictly a matter of quality of management. Private schools have boards of management who try to (and usually) select competent principals and teachers.
Public schools are staffed like all government institutions – with political appointments designed to reward friends, family and party hacks.

The real problem with the public schools however is the thing called the Ministry of Education. This is a body whose sole purpose is to frustrate all principals and teachers into subservient mediocrity, while hiding all statistical data, performance indicators and other operational measures – and extracting the maximum amount of dollars from the treasury.

So how about agreeing that the difference is related to the quality of management normally found in these two entities?
David | March 14, 2010 at 9:22 AM |

The following news story is relevant,,,as usual we do a good job of highlighting the problem. The same newspaper reports that multi-coloured hair pieces will be banned at school sports, music will be banned as well. Last week Minister of Education met with principals of the schools and announced soon after a law will be coming in about 6 months to ban students from the PSVs. Recently in a Cabinet reshuffle Minister of Education Jones was relieved of some responsibility to devote more time to his substantive minister of education. Interesting to see the Minister of Education and Commissioner Dottin have put a halt on plans to bring Movado and Vybz Kartel to Barbados. As usual we hear silly Barbadians on the radio preaching about freedom to do business and the right to do this and that.

The bottomline is there seem to be a push to clamp down on the bad behaviour in the society especially as it touches the youth. Let us see if we are serious!

TOO RUDE!

Published on: 3/14/2010.

by PATRICK WARD

INDISCIPLINE doesn’t just exist in schools. It exists in wider society too.

And according to Magistrate Ian Weekes, the Government should take a broad-based approach to dealing with the bad elements.

Weekes has also come out against the playing of a hit tune made popular by Barbados’ grammy-award winning artiste Rihanna, saying the song is "purely sexual" and needs to be taken off the air.

He made his initial observations in the Holetown Magistrates’ Court last Friday, where a 17-year-old was before him on a number of charges.

"Indiscipline is not only on the public service vehicles [PSV]. I always have my ear to the ground. We have to blame STARCOM and CBC and the other radio stations for promoting this subculture."

Numerous attempts to reach CBC’s general manager Lars Soderstrom and STARCOM’s programme manager Ronald Clarke for a response proved futile.

In a subsequent interview with the SUNDAY SUN, Weekes said some of the blame for the indiscipline being exhibited on route taxies and other PSVs is but a microcosm of society. Radio stations must take some of the blame for allowing lyrics that excite the youth and incite indiscipline to be aired.

He said the Broadcast Authority must also do its work and monitor the radio stations.

"They tend to fuel this subculture. I don’t believe that Rihanna’s Rude Boy should be played. It is purely a sexual song and certain standards need to be set.

Magistrate Weekes also called for a parenting programme for people who want to access Government resources and financing.

"If a woman becomes pregnant and she wants to have free health care, it should be mandatory that she attend the parenting programme. And once a father has been identified, he should be made to attend these sessions before they are allowed to get free medical care."

He said the Broadcast Authority needs to be revamped and the National Organisation of Women (NOW) needs new blood to cope with the changing trends in society.

NOW was out of touch with reality, he said.

"They need to develop new strategies and programmes for young women. When we look at the focus of young women now, they seem to be only interested in being the "knock out of the month" or "the girl next door".

"Is NOW really achieving its target audience? I believe that it needs young members to assist in changing its focus. Get younger members involved to assist them. . . ."

The magistrate also criticised event promoters.

"I don’t think that Gully and Gaza have a place in Barbados. Here it is, two men who cannot achieve peace in Jamaica (Mavado and Vybz Kartel). I can’t see how they can achieve this here in Barbados.

"Their presence here will ensure the recruitment of young soldiers for the ghetto sub-culture. Right now I see two subcultures destroying Barbados. They are Jamaica and the USA."
jeff cumberbatch | March 14, 2010 at 10:30 AM |

@david,

I do not understand your characterisation of Barbadians who are clamouring for freedom as “silly”.

Are freedoms possible only when a majority agree with them?

Is the determination of our freedoms a matter only for the government or the police?

What do we dop when we have banned everything and still have a problem?

Or do you think that banning is the real solution to our problems?

What if they decide to ban ….blogs?
Sargeant | March 14, 2010 at 11:23 AM |

David

Recently in a Cabinet reshuffle Minister of Education Jones was relieved of some responsibility to devote more time to his substantive minister of education.
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Did it also involve relieving him of his role as President of the Football Association? Being a Minister is a full time responsibility and I think that Thompson’s condoning of Jones’ decision to maintain his position as President is one of the areas in which he has demonstrated a lack of leadership. Thompson should have put his foot down and said “You have an option – Cabinet or Football – the choice is yours”.
Anonymous | March 14, 2010 at 11:41 AM |

If the Minister of Education, Mr Jones was overburdened with work then why remove Minister Todd from the Education Ministry? Given that in two years Minister Todd has been in three different ministries without any discernible accomplishment, is his transfer to the Department of Special Projects only a matter of time?
Fair & Balance | March 14, 2010 at 11:51 AM |

I think that banning of the music and hair do is not the answer to the problems. It will help to curb the creativity of these kids and they will focus on more creative ways to be deviant. Are you going to ban radios, ipods walkmans or any instruments that make music. This is folly.
The parents must instill in their children the need for self respect. They must monitor their children’s dress before they leave home to make sure that they are appropriately dress not like the CP girl in the newspaper on Saturday.
Banning of the creative talents of these kids will lead to more creative deviant behaviour and also kill the festive atmostphere at the stadium.
The ministry needs to rethink this approach.
David | March 14, 2010 at 1:17 PM |

@Sargeant

Agree with that point. BU recall that is it Prime Minister David Thompson who soon after winning the government supported the decision by Ronald Jones to hold on to the presidency of the Barbados Football Association. The illogic of relieving him of ministerial responsibilities and as anonymous points out removing Todd bears some explanation and further analysis.

@jeff

You make a good point but we all have the right to voice the kind of society we want to se. It will be up to the policymakers to frame the laws which reflect the type of society we want. BU’s comment was made against a backdrop of an imploding society. We don’t believe banning is the solution but it is evident as a society we have to do something, we suspect to pullback what is happening the authorities will have to use immediate and longer term strategies.

Now jeff tell us how two illiterate, weed smoking, don’t know knowing people should be allowed to enter Barbados to feed the sub culture which we are battling? As adults we have responsibilities to safe-guarding our society.
jeff cumberbatch | March 14, 2010 at 1:34 PM |

Which sub-culture that we are battling does Vybez Kartel and Mavado feed, David? Do we have laws or don’t we? Are they enforced?
David | March 14, 2010 at 2:14 PM |

The question is rhetorical we know but we know the music of these two wogs is heavily played on the minibuses and fetes. Yes we have laws and yes we don’t enforce rigorously but sometimes when we do the overburdened court system becomes a problem. Yes our parents need to step up to the plate but guess what? We have many, many delinquent parents so it is left to the state which has responsibly for law and order.

Yes legislating is imperfect but it better than surrender. Your last point is taken, we need to enforce the damn laws but how can we when the system is so corrupt? For example, who owns the PSVs? Why are some reported and pass for inspection and some no?

Musings:Rewriting History (II)

3/14/2010

By Jeff Cumberbatch

Officialdom in this fair land of ours, it seems, has a quaint, though arguably maladroit method sometimes of dealing with thorny social issues. That is to ban the form of expression or the means by which the problem is made manifest. Never mind that this clumsy, cack-handed approach often proves entirely useless, and is likely to create difficulties perhaps more intractable than the one it attempts to solve; we adopt this technique of prohibition time and again to deal with issues which prove nettlesome for a self-appointed validating elite.

Thus the police will request a ban on the appearance here of the Jamaican artistes, Mavado and Vybez Kartel, because their presence or performance is likely to pose a problem – either that of inciting violence or because of their dubious qualification as role models; rather than laying down strict guidelines for expected behaviour at the show and enforcing the law on criminal conduct to the letter. We recall too, in this context, the ban imposed in the late 70’s on certain calypsos which had proven unpalatable to the then governing administration. And there was the ban on colourful ZR’s, presumably to instil some order among their operators.

Some schoolchildren, perhaps a minority, are using camera-equipped mobile phones to film, record and transmit pornographic and violent incidents? Ban all cell phones in schools. After all, a few blithely declare, we did quite well without them when we were at school some 20 or 30 years ago. A small number of schoolchildren are misbehaving on the PSVs? Ban all of them from riding on these vehicles. They will behave themselves for sure once this happens. And, most recent, a few schoolchildren are misconducting themselves at school sports? Well we cannot ban the sports…or can we? While we think that one through, let us ban the elaborate colourful hair styles that show support for a house or school, and while we are at it, let’s ban the music to which they dance so salaciously! Whom do they think they are? Adults… at Kadooment?

One does tend to notice a pattern emerging. Meanwhile, there is no ban on smoking in public places; no imposition of the breathalyser test; no ban on the use of cell phones while driving. But there are those who would ban calypso shows during Lent; still others would ban low-cut trousers that expose underwear.

The theme of this essay is made clear in the reasons given for the banning of music at school sports. It was never like this, it is claimed; the loud music, the impromptu parade in the streets after sports, the flagrant misbehaviour of some students.

As I wrote last week, I am not, by any means, in my dotage; although I was a secondary school student in the days when the only pupils who wore epaulettes as part of their uniform were those in the lower school at Harrison College. Now these items are de rigueur even for primary school uniforms. But there were drums, bugles, trumpets, whistles, bottles and other musical instruments at the inter-school sports even in those times; enthusiastic shouts or yawning drones of “K-O-L-I-J” and “L-O-D-G-E” frequently split the air; Combermere sang perennially “We shall overcome” and, as they do today, we took to the streets immediately after, impeding traffic, shouting, singing and generally making
nuisances of ourselves. I never heard of public complaint; no one threatened a ban back then. Of course, there were fewer schools competing and there was not the substantial presence of females in those days as now but, had there been, I feel sure that similar episodes as occur today would have occurred then. But the contemporary re-write of history would have us behaving like cherubs, raising at most polite applause or a subdued cheer in victory, gracefully commiserating with our adversaries in defeat and singing the school song in moderated tones. Believe me, it was nothing like that.

There seems, however, to be an inherent suspicion of certain forms of music at sporting events. Readers may recall the prohibition on music which served to deflate further an ill-starred Cricket World Cup 2007 hosted here in the region. It bears remarking however, that the situation has endured a 180 degree reversal in respect of the T20 World Cup, also to be staged regionally and music is now being encouraged, even if in the somewhat unimaginative marketing theme of “Bring it”, imploring fans to “bring your biggest noisemakers” and to “bring your most outrageous costumes and face paint”.

Now the prohibitionists are looking to ban the South African vuvuzela, a plastic trumpet traditionally blown at football games in that country, from the FIFA World Cup to be staged there this summer. Some find it a distracting, noisy irritant which drowns out the commentary, even though the question has been asked what would be the point of taking the World Cup to Africa, and then trying to give it a European feel. Others compare it favourably to the monkey chants which greet black players in some European stadiums. On the other hand, one article in the London Guardian calls it “the din of iniquity”. FIFA is not amenable to a ban, however. According to Sepp Blatter, FIFA president, “That is what African and South Africa football is all about –noise, excitement, dancing, shouting and enjoyment…”
He was not, of course, also referring to the local inter-school sports.

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Sargeant | March 14, 2010 at 2:28 PM |

David

Quote -We don’t believe banning is the solution- unquote. Yes we do, Banning has been the hallmark of many Caribbean Gov’ts who are stymied for solutions to what they view as threats to a particular way of life or good order. Jamaica banned Walter Rodney; Trinidad banned Stokely Carmichael (who was born there) many others have been banned. I know someone who was banned from entering Dominica because he had dreadlocks. Barbados has banned the wearing of certain types of clothing, I wouldn’t know Vbez kartel from the Colombian Cartel but somehow some people think that banning him will make a difference. Now let’s ban the Internet as Cumberbatch alluded to above, if there is no You Tube perhaps people wouldn’t listen to that kind of music.

There…. Problem solved.
Bush Tea | March 14, 2010 at 3:23 PM |

What we should really ban is lawyers.

I don’t understand how Mr Cumberbatch can say that he fail to understand the urge to ban. He is one of our brightest and best.

The government is tempted to ban the schoolchildren from the ZR; music from the school sports; coloured hair on students; Movado, and lord knows who else ….
….for one reason……FRUSTRATION!!

The poor government don’t know what else to do.

Jeff ask ‘Do we have laws or don’t we? Are they enforced?”

What laws what?!

Be honest, why can we have a ZR driver with 200 charges pending – and still on the road?
Why can a man be on remand for 6 years?
Why does a simple matter take 10 years to be resolved by our courts?

LAWYERS.

What happens when citizens are frustrated by inaction? When politicians (mostly lawyers) feel impotent to solve simple problems? When the police feel that their hands are tied?

People call for impulsive thoughtless actions – and ‘bans’ are easy to conjure up.

I think that the solution to the problem is for our legal system to work.
Right now, all that our system is focused on, is extracting money and influence from the society.

They care NOTHING about justice. They laugh at fairness. They wink at exploitation – of the poor and helpless – taking land, money, assets is their game.

The problem starts with the drafting of our laws – a TOTAL embarrassment and joke over the last 20 years. Flawed laws, hapless loopholes, stupid logic……

Then there is the game called ‘court’ …. where the idea is to frustrate victims until they either plead ‘guilty’ or until all witnesses are dead. Lawyers love this particular game – lots of money to be gleaned…..

….By the time any matter is resolved, all the principals involved are either dead or incontinent, and there is NO opportunity to influence society with the judgment.

With such a useless flawed system, who can be surprised that Government, police, schools, and everyone – would think that the only option is to ‘ban dem….’
jeff cumberbatch | March 14, 2010 at 3:35 PM |

So, BT, are we going to change the system….or simply ban that too?

Incidentally, thanks for the re-publication, David & BU.
David | March 14, 2010 at 4:32 PM |

@jeff

You are welcome. As you know the BU family needs to be fed quality information at a high rate.
Anonymous | March 14, 2010 at 4:34 PM |

I doan care wuh Jeff Cumberbatch seh. He good wuh part he is. I doubt he trildren ever had to ketch a ZR! These big ups wid dem fancy intellectual tripe only want to show how bright dem is… but every fool got ‘e sense and this fool could see people like dem doan have to care cos dem trilden a lot less exposed up in de heights and terraces.Wuh wunnah doan want for wunnah mill class trilden please to doan want fuh my trilden dong-in de tenantry.
Bush Tea | March 14, 2010 at 4:46 PM |

Jeff

I am quite sure that you could give us a comprehensive lecture – right off the cuff, on the challenges of changing ‘the system’.

That takes vision, guts, determination, honesty and commitment.

Does that answer your question about whether we are going to change the system?

Absolutely NO! … at least not for the better.
The Scout | March 14, 2010 at 4:49 PM |

That video is appalling but BT i also agree with you. A lot of this blame has to be shared with the adults. We have a group of lawyers who have been doing some alleged underhand deals yet nothing is happening. every now and again, you would see their picture appear in the print media on a case of suspect lawyer/client fraud, yet the matter never seems to come to a finale. We have so-called big-ups who get charged with a serious problem with a young girls, nothing comes out of it. There is too much double standards with we adults and unless we put our house in order this country will slide further down the drain.
David | March 14, 2010 at 7:13 PM |

Interesting to read the comment of the Jamaican Minister responsible for youth, sports and culture as reported in the Jamaican Gleaner today. Hell even the Jamaican authorities admit there is a problem but we have some politically correct Bajans who feel there is no problem and defend these wogs:

Barbados shuts out dancehall

Published: Sunday | March 14, 2010

A BARBADOS minister of government has moved to shut out toxic Jamaican dancehall music from his country.

Ronald Jones, the minister of education and human resource development, said the heavy diet of dancehall artistes performing in Barbados is an overkill and doing more harm than good.

"Even though we share the same Caribbean space, it does not mean we have to welcome everybody. Vybz Kartel and Mavado can stay in Jamaica," Jones said.

His statement came a day after the country’s police commissioner denied the notorious Jamaican artistes permission to perform in the Caribbean nation.

"As a country, we must say enough is enough," the Barbados Nation quoted the minister as having said.

"This is Barbados. It must not go down the path of some other Caribbean societies. If reaching First-World status means we have to embrace all and sundry, then let us keep the status that we have," Jones added, according to the Nation.

The education minister said there was a linkage between dancehall music and some of the increasingly aggressive behaviour exhibited by young people in Barbados.

"Barbados is becoming loud, and some of our people are becoming uncaring, uncharitable. There are places in the Caribbean that they don’t want Barbadians to come anymore. There are planes in the Caribbean that don’t want to transport Barbadians to and from here. What is that saying?

"It is saying that we are loud and aggressive, but it is part and parcel of the diet that we are being fed as a people and as a nation. People like the music, so be it. But we don’t need the transplantation of all the negativity that comes around that genre of music," Jones said.

Grange responds

Olivia Grange, minister of youth, sports and culture, responding to this latest saga in dancehall, said: "I am concerned and I have expressed concern about the content in some dancehall songs. I believe strongly in freedom of expression, but that comes with great responsibility. We can do without some of the lyrics, not only in dancehall recordings, but soca and hip hop too, and that is why we took steps to clean up the airwaves. This is an ongoing process
Bush Tea | March 14, 2010 at 8:40 PM |

@ David

As man! if bush tea was the minister of education or the commissioner of police, and I had publicly taken the stance that these gentlemen were reported to have taken;
and if movado and vblyrs (or whatever his name) were STILL allowed to perform in Barbados……
I WOULD RESIGN.

Do these people understand what leadership is all about?

1- they talk too much. Leaders need to shut their traps unless they have something to say.

2 – and when they talk they should DO WHAT THEY SAY. You recall that this same commissioner came out some time ago complaining about false license plates? …a big press conference!!!! WHAT HAPPENED?

When leaders persist in talk talk talk and no action they are devaluing the authority of their office and defaulting on their responsibilities to the public.

…..look for some silly excuse from these ‘leaders’ as to why they could not carry out their wishes (not my ministry; the law was unclear; it was a done deal; my daughter had a ticket……)

Can you advise them to hush their mouths if they don’t have anything to say….? stuppppps!
Just stop! | March 14, 2010 at 10:24 PM |

David Thompson and his silly bunch needs to fix the damn economy and stop picking on the school children to distract people from the real pressing issue.
Rising poverty is a more serious threat to national security than a handful of bad behaved children.
Get the country’s priorities straight. Give people jobs, bring down the cost of living and let people provide better for their children and stop playing politics.
David | March 14, 2010 at 10:25 PM |

@BT

Agree with you because Jones and the Commissioner have gone on record issuing statements which are unwelcoming. You should remember that the Prime Minister is a big fan of dance hall.
Anonymous | March 15, 2010 at 12:24 AM |

So true David.

The prime minister is a big fan of dancehall and even made the stupid mistake of having Movado up at Illaro Court last year when Movado was pushing some alcoholic drink.

You will notice that it is always freundel stuart the A.G. and deputy prime minister and not Thompson who speaks out against these dub artiste and this party mentality.

Time for Thompson to make that mental change from Opposition leader to Prime minister and realise that as a leader and family man this dancehall reggae fest attendances might not be the image he wants to cultivate for the public.
islander | March 15, 2010 at 3:05 PM |

@ All and sundry

This has made some interesting reading ah tell yuh..haha.

However let me pelt in my 2 cents:

Banning children off de zrs ain gine change nuttin, why ? cause yuh cant constitutionally do it ! further more, what happens when dey go home or take off dey uniforms and come back out dress in mufti ? what den ? will it be an age ting den ? look , why not really police the zrs , not de half hearted harassment dat 2 or 3 motor cycle cops does do (yes understand the numbers issue) why not tek way de man dat got 50 convictions and 50 more pending for traffic issues licen.. dat would help.

Why not put in place as a part of government projects a PARENTING WORKSHOP which will target both young mothers/fathers and father and mothers of young children that will allow some type of help to be afforded to some of these parents who truly dont know any better….it can be put on thru the school data base with an emphasis on primary schools , as this is the best time to teach all and sundry, look this problem took a long time developing, it didnt happen over night, and it will take a long term solution, but banning children from zrs ?? thats sooo funny, THEY WILL FIND A WAY, look children will be childre, and from the 70s and 80s we were rebelling in our own way, if de socks was supposed to be up we wore them down, de breakfast club bad boy mentality was born long time ago, its just that kids have become more emboldened with the lack of consequential reaction by authority , ie dey doan get dem ass cut or have no fear of when dey get home wha gine happen..

I really din plan to write so much , but look, if u ban movado and vybes cartel from coming here, it will be like burning joan of arc, u creating a quasi martyrdom for these kids to worship, its easy for kids to get the music online anyway ? so they will hear it on their cell phones etcetc…anyhow look and see who going to the show anyway , is its 16 year old kids ? no it is adults and and parents of the said same kids who hear thier parents listening to movado and vybes and bounty etcetc..and got de same ring tones….so how banning dem from coming gine help ? it may help for a weekend , but who like de gazza gine still like de gazza and who like de gully will still like de gully…by de way Jamaica has been popularized as this war zone, it is not and there are elements of the jamaican society who want to stamp out de foolishness too…

anyway all dat to say this, lets address de root problem of our societal issues , which are but not limited to

1 a move away from God and his teachings
2 a permeation of our society by the north american way of life (price of progrees ?)
3 an change in the population demographic of a larger middle class (more crabs in dat barrel )
4 re# 3 less parenting cause people looking for money to pay dey big azz mortgage and car loan to keep up wid de joneses
5. a change in the employment demographic where people work longer ie into their seventies , thus there is a lacking of the extended family to teach and care for the youth.
6. The woman’s role as a caretaker (guh long share de licks) has changed, they ain home tekking care of de children nuh more dem out wukkin and mekkin money too ! so everybody educated, everybody chasing paper, everybody is de same now, but tekkin care of de poor children ?
(let me answer dat , vybes cartel, de internet, and playstation/xbox360 dah is who)
7 the failure of MEN in this society to provide good role models for young boys( it ain girls dese shows shooting each other)
i can go on…

but lets look at the root problems and find longterm solutions instead on worrying bout de indo guyanese issue .llololol.
JC | March 15, 2010 at 3:44 PM |

Bush Tea I like I agreeing with you all the time doh!!!
batfink | March 22, 2010 at 7:34 AM |

When can a member of parliament pull a gun in the precincts of parliament and its ok! last friday at the end of estimates debate. Are the children’s behaviour much different from this…shame on you, Oh david! Will one david fire another David!