Submitted by Charles Knighton
I always find myself bemused by the ipso facto logic of those who attempt to conflate the geographic fact of Egypt’s location on the continent of Africa with Egypt therefore being a black civilization worthy of study during Black History month as Mr. Ian Marshall suggests in his guest column of July 10th, “Laurie misses the point“.
A demographic snapshot of Egypt today would reveal, as would a snapshot of all Mediterranean countries, decidedly non-black populations, a make up not much changed over the millenia. This is not to suggest that through Egypt’s long history Black Africans did not at times gain ascendancy in Egypt, but this this does not make Egypt a Black civilization anymore than Black African countries under colonial rule became White civilizations.
Mr. Marshall’s concern with black Barbadian children who have “grown up on the lies and distortions of Africa by bigoted scholars and mass media” is laudable and yet he seems quite willing to indulge the same tactics by making Egypt a cornerstone of Black History month. The cognitive dissonance awaiting children who are taught of the magnificent achievements of Egypt during Black History month and who then see old photographs or newsreels of a non-black population will be palpable, unless the plan is to claim that despite strong evidence to the contrary if one goes back far enough through the centuries and relies on less and less evidence they will discover the original Black Egyptian civilization which dastardly White propagandists have cleverly obscured.
Cultivating self-esteem among children is a commendable undertaking, but if not to collapse it must be built on a solid foundation. Opting to focus on the least black of African countries during Black History month, as opposed to focusing on the West African countries Barbadians can actually trace their ancestry to, though less glamorous, will be self-defeating in the long run.
As an individual of European descent I could have attempted to incorporate (and actually did try for a while) all the achievements in Europe from the Renaissance onward in building my self-esteem, but I found I was only building a house of cards. My true ancestors were of Welsh and Irish stock who probably knew little of such progress but who knew a great deal about trying to make ends meet, and about suffering and, particularly the Irish, starvation and death. Their grit and determination to overcome, their transit to America with little else but hope for a chance at a better life, though certainly less glamorous than the scientific achievements of Copernicus or Galileo or Newton, are inspiring and worthy of respect. These castoffs are my true ancestors and this is my true heritage. I need look no further to bolster my self-esteem.
obiter dictum
In my opinion it is next to impossible for a writer to pen columns for many years without inadvertently revealing underlying prejudices to discerning readers. While I only “know” Mr. Laurie through his words, his musings portray an individual concerned with the betterment of mankind. Understanding this allows this writer to at times disagree with Mr. Laurie’s prescriptions or proscriptions without questioning his motivations or sincerity. For Mr. Marshall to impute racist ideology to Mr. Laurie is beyond the pale, demonstrating once again why a meaningful discussion of racial issues in Barbados will likely never occur.











Comments about the Ancient Egyptians :
“Europeans have claimed the non-African creation of Egypt in order to downgrade the position of African people in world history! They have laid the foundation of what they call Western Civilization on a structure that the Western mind did not create” . (Historian and Egyptologist, Dr. John Henrik Clark).
Vivant Denon drew a sketch of the Sphinx of Giza in Egypt around 1798, prior to its defacement by Europeans (Napoleon soldiers) , he wrote :
“…Though its proportions are colossal, the outline is pure and graceful; the expression of the head is mild, gracious, and tranquil; the character is African, but the mouth, and lips of which are thick, has a softness and delicacy of execution truly admirable; it seems real life and flesh. ”
Aristotle – “Those who are too black are cowards, like for instance, the Egyptians and Ethiopians”.
Aristotle – “Why are the Ethiopians and Egyptians bandy-legged? Is it because the bodies of living creatures become distorted by heat, like logs of wood when they become dry? The condition of their hair supports this theory; for it is curlier than that of other nations, and curliness is as it were crookedness of the hair.”
(Physiognomics, Book XIV, p. 317) .
Lycinus – “this (Egyptian) boy is not merely black; he has thick lips and his legs are too thin”.
(Lucian, Navigations, paras 2-3).
Ammiuanus Marcellinus “…the men of Egypt are mostly brown or black with a skinny desiccated look.”
(Ammianus Marcellinus, Book XXII para 16) .
It seems to me Mr. Ricky Jordan “Let’s embrace our heritage” in the July 04th Nation endorses much what Peter Laurie and the Irishman have said about Barbadian’s heritage, yet the ad hominen responses to his musings provide a deafening silence. What could possibly be the reason for this?
That people don’t read the Monday Nation half as much as they do the Sunday Sun?
And maybe because, unlike yourself and Laurie, he didn’t feel the need to pepper his contibution with insulting words that suggest black people are “bemuddling African history”, as though we don’t have enough commonsense to know what is or isn’t African history?
And, unlike you and Laurie, he also didn’t try to suggest that African history is irrelevant and “frivolous”, he called out people who are into it as a fad, or concentrate on it exclusively – while ignoring Caribbean history. He didn’t say that they should be learning it all – unlike you and Laurie.
Although, in the schools, it IS Caribbean history that is taught exclusively. I don’t know if this has changed somewhat, but in my days we only learnt about West Indian history at school and nothing about African history (especially pre-slavery). I had to learn that all on my own, late into my twenties – by doing my own research, books etc.
Maybe, just maybe that is why there is such an emphasis on it now – because some of us have to make up for lost time.
And the more you learn about it, the more you realize there is too learn.
And perhaps it would help matters if ALL three of you would stop treating black people like they are some kind of monolith. There are plenty of us who only concentrate on 1. The Caribbean side of their history. There are others (like myself) who are 2. Focused on both. And there are others who 3. Are only interested in their history pre-slavery. And there are still others who 4. Couldn’t care less about history at all.
If you have such a problem with #2 and #3, just ignore them and align yourself with the number ones only, there are plenty of them out there. And you can try to convert the number fours to your way of thinking – which shouldn’t be too difficult at all.
Ok, I think I’m done now!
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” A demographic snapshot of Egypt today would reveal, as would a snapshot of all Mediterranean countries, decidedly non-black populations, a make up not much changed over the millenia..” -Charles Knighton.
Charles Knighton is either ignorant of the true facts or he is liar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnfxjqVyZ7M .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERAXlV-Qgz0 .
@ Charles Knighton.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiHqDXVBxF8 .
White racist historians have written black people out of history ,and replaced them with whites.This is because while Blacks were making history whites were still illiterate nomads in the central asian plains.
When they arrived in Europe ( circa 1200 B.C .) they simply appropiated all that the Black man had built and accomplished.
But bieng the degenerates that they are ,they couldn’t content themselves with simply having it , they felt compelled to claim creation of it. And to the end ,there is a huge white industry of fake artefacts,not only of Egyptians , but of all the original first civilisations created by black people.