Caswell Franklyn, Head of Unity Workers Union
2 Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
3 For the customs of the people are in vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with an ax.
4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
5 They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not; they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.
The above passage is taken from Jeremiah 10: 2 – 5, King James Version of the Holy Bible. It is telling us not to learn the ways of the heathen, and it singles out the practice of cutting down a tree from the forest and decorating it with silver and gold. Amazingly, those instructions from the Old Testament prophet Jeremiah, who lived six hundred years before the birth of Christ, seem to be speaking about the modern day practice of decorating a Christmas tree.
It is safe to conclude that the custom of setting up Christmas trees has nothing to do with what some is the reason for the season – the birth of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. If I am to go by the words of Jeremiah, the custom of setting up Christmas trees is merely following the ways of the heathen. Surely, it should be offensive to right-thinking people to adopt the customs of heathens to celebrate the birth of Christ.
It is also interesting to note that the Christian church only started celebrating the birth of Christ four hundred years after his birth. Again the church adopted pagan celebrations that pre-date the birth of Christ to celebrate that event.
Zoe might be high strung and fanatical but he ain’t no anti-Christ.
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How you worked that out Simon?
Are you aware that Jesus warned that “Many shall come IN MY NAME (called CHRISTians), saying the I (Jesus) am the Massiah (saying what seems like the right things)…….AND THEY SHALL DECEIVE MANY PERSONS.
The anti-Christ will NOT have horns and a pitched fork…. Their ONLY OBJECTIVE is to destroy the SIMPLE MESSAGE that Jesus brought to earth…..and they have done so brilliantly.
….how many people know of the gospel (good news) that Jesus preached?
The two main planks of the anti Christ are:
1 – Get you to believe that God is a closed shop TRINITY.
2 – Tell you that God did not really make any meaningful sacrifice for your salvation. (ie Jesus was always GOD anyway, so what was the big deal? YOU are not God so how can you be expected to be LIKE him.
Have you noticed how dogmatic the traditional “Christians” are on these two points in particular?
Jesus’ message was
1 – God is a family and there are ” many mansions in my father’s house” – with VACANCIES.
2 – I have come here as a sacrifice so that you may have a chance to gain TRUE SPIRITUAL LIFE in my spiritual family
3 – whosoever really BELIEVE in my sacrifice and my mission shall have eternal life.
SIMPLE MESSAGE.
What is the ANTI CHRIST TACTIC to destroy that message?
Convince us that God is a TRINITY (closed shop)
Convince us that there was NO sacrifice.
QED
…as 1 John 4 says VERY CLEARLY…
ZOE IS AN ANTI CHRIST. ….. NOT LOL !
well well well
here i was couldn’t sleep. read this thread to catch up and now can’t sleep with a rum and coke on top of it.
Zoe, you exhibit beautifully what’s wrong with some people’s ministering and evangelism.No offense intended, nothing personal.
““Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you WILL be saved…” ( v.31)”
if this is it then why the 10 paragraphs, 12 verses, 20 references to fluff up Baffy head? It sounds, feels and looks pretty simple to me.
Many moons ago I watched a film where one character who was head of his tribe had a belief, and was willing to die and carry the tribe to war for it. A skeptic in the tribe said “Damnit, don’t you know that everyone around you does not believe what you do?”
The reply from the character was simply “my beliefs do not require them to.”
Walk in faith and we’ll meet in glory….eventually..
Just observing.
I’m unsure if Bushie know his gnosis like Zoe professes but I think the fundamental difference in philosophies but not temperament between them is Zoe’s Universe for Spiritual Knowledge is the Bible for Study whereas Bushie’s Universe is the Universe and all its vibration. I’m sure Jesus was not a bookworm and tended to think outside the box of common man’s limited thinking and social laws
Bush Tea, Show me FROM God’s Word, the Bible, and SPECIFICALLY from Jesus teachings, or the Apostles, where this UTTER NONSENSE you write comes from in His Word?
Secondly, YOU BELIEVE ” YOU WILL GOD” more specifically you SAID, in an earlier post, “I WILL BE GOD” That arrogant, presumptous LIE, comes from SATAN, your ‘father’ whom you speak like, as he FIRST did to Eve, “…and you WILL BE LIKE GOD…” (Gen. 3:5b) Further, in the NT, The ‘Antichrist’ “…who opposes and EXALTS himself above ALL, that is called God or that is worshipped as God in the temple of God, showing himself THAT HE IS GOD….(just like you Bush Tea) ..the coming of the LAWLESS one (Antichrist) according to the working of Satan ( your father BT) with all power, signs and LYING wonders, and with all unrighteous DECEPTION among those who perish, BECAUSE (just like you Bush Tea) they did NOT receive the LOVE of the TRUTH, that they might be SAVED, AND for this reason God will send them STRONG DELUSION, that they should believe THE LIE ( Just like YOU Bush Tea, et al) that they be condemned who did NOT believe the TRUTH but had PLEASURE in unrighteousness.” ( 2 Thess. 2:4,9,10, 11, 12).
You ARE a LIAR and DECEIVER Bush Tea, just like your ‘father’ Satan, and the MOST EXPLICIT, blasphemous ARROGANT claim, just like your ‘father’ Bush Tea, ever made by the ‘father’ of ALL LIES, is now ECHOED by you, “I WILL BE GOD” You are Bush Tea, a living manifestation of the ANTICHRIST, who will sit in the rebuilt Temple and blasphemously proclaim “…THAT HE IS GOD.” Let the BU observers decide WHO speaks just like SATAN and the Antichrist!
“The two main planks of the anti Christ are:
1 – Get you to believe that God is a closed shop TRINITY.
2 – Tell you that God did not really make any meaningful sacrifice for your salvation. (ie Jesus was always GOD anyway, so what was the big deal? YOU are not God so how can you be expected to be LIKE him.”
zoe
Ignore Bushtea
He has clearly manifested that he does not understand the Bible.
Bible folk that I have met, or read or listened to in the last 40 plus years ALWAYS seek to support their opinions by reference to appropriate Scriptures correctly divided in their context.
They understand that the Bible teaching about salvation does not revolve around 33 years of Jesus” life.
And I can go on. But why? It makes no sense.
You need to understand that YOU DO NOT NEED TO PLAY AT EVERY BALL
iF YOU WANT TO TEACH BIBLE DO SO…..BUT FORGET BUSHTEA AND THOSE OF HIS ILK
Zoe
Jesus was a living man, a ghetto man, he walked the most, talked the most, loved the most and he travelled from coast to coast
GP, my brother, that is clearly understood, different batsmen, on the same team, have differing abilities, some play at balls, get runs, that others would never play at! Where Paul went, and what he dealt with and spoke about, Peter did not!
Enough said!
“You need to understand that YOU DO NOT NEED TO PLAY AT EVERY BALL”
What ” do not have to play at every ball” what?!?!
The two(?) of wunna OUT!
One clean bowled….. Zoe – Middle stump, and GP caught in deep gully swiping…
Bushie returns to his mark, polishing the ball on his flannels, to await another batsman….hopefully this time, one properly equipped to face REAL hostile bowling….
Good googly moogly that thing is juicy. Jesus was just a man with a plan and was so common, why did the angels check the shepherds to tell them about some messiah when everyone knows you don’t talk to shepherds
Three 6 Mafia
On the BU I often feel Déjà vu