Submitted by a frequent BU family member and published unedited.
“….Hardwood Housing Factory Inc. is A GOVERNMENT-OWNED company with EGFL holding more than 90% of the shares.” Minister of State, Clyde Mascoll, in a letter dated October 10, 2007 to Opposition Leader, David Thompson, on Prime Minister Owen Arthur’s instructions.
Hardwood Housing Factory Inc. is an example of the BLP’s arrogance and contempt for YOU. It’s a serious matter. You ought to be concerned. Millions of your tax dollars are being spent willy-nilly without accountability. It’s only when the BLP is put under pressure, that you get disclosure.
If David Thompson hadn’t raised the flag by calling for an independent forensic audit at Hardwood Housing Factory, you would’ve never known it’s a GOVERNMENT-OWNED company. All along, citizens were led to believe by Clyde Mascoll that the owner is a “poor little black boy” whom Government was facilitating.
In just one year of operation, Hardwood Housing Factory has gobbled up almost US$2 million of public financing through the Enterprise Growth Fund Ltd (EGFL) – the basis of Government’s ownership. The so-called “owner’s” investment was $100,000 representing “the value of the equipment contributed and his sweat equity”. Source: Indicative Term Sheet dated Nov 9, 2006.
Clyde Mascoll has more explaining to do. He needs to give FULLER CLARIFICATION of the nature of his association with the company. Saying “I hold no office or shareholding in the Hardwood Housing Factory Inc.” doesn’t satisfy legitimate questions which remain unanswered. He needs to explain, for example, why an employee would have reason to tell the CEO “nothing will make me compromise the trust that God, MR. MASCOLL and the Board has placed in me”.
When Mascoll announced the establishment of the low income housing project on September 5, 2006, it is also interesting he chose to use “WE” in talking about the factory instead of “THEY”. There are four instances where this was observed in the Nation story of September 6, 2006. Here are three: “WE are going to meet within the next two months or so with the carpenters and masons, and this is a project for small people…. ” “WE are now in the process of developing, along with the BIDC, a formal arrangement where the necessary financing would be accessed.” “The masons will put down the foundations and WE will then install on the predetermined foundation….” Don’t you find this baffling?
In the Sunday Sun of January 21, 2007, Albert Brandford, who comes across in his writings as a loyal Mascoll lieutenant, wrote the following about Mascoll’s role in Hardwood Housing Factory. “…. HE has been able to CONCEPTUALISE AND EXECUTE a vote-catching Hardwood Housing project, in three months, and which, according to media reports, is on course to deliver houses – acknowledged as one of the island’s most pressing social needs – to many Barbadians, including his own constituents in St Michael North-West.”
Mascoll’s repeated use of “WE” when he announced the project, as well as Brandford’s firm assertion that “HE” (Mascoll) was the one who CONCEPTUALIZED and EXECUTED the project, raises serious questions about Mascoll’s involvement. A Government minister’s job is not to CONCEPTUALIZE and EXECUTE a private business project. His role is to serve the public interest. It is a serious conflict of interest. Interestingly, Mascoll has never challenged Brandford’s description of his active role. Doesn’t it seem inappropriate for a minister of the Crown? Barbadians are interested in hearing THE TRUTH, THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH.
THE CREDIBILITY FACTOR
“I look forward to a no-confidence motion tomorrow, Mr. Thompson. I have more credibility than you in Barbados and I will continue to have more credibility than you do….” Clyde Mascoll, Nation, October 15, 2007, speaking about the Hardwood issue, at Perry Gap.
Mascoll is clearly living in a dream world when he speaks about his credibility. Look now at how he puts his foot in his mouth and takes his credibility further below zero. On September 6, 2006, the Nation reported:
Mascoll credited Barbadian Anthony Murrell with the concept, after the latter had supervised the building of 500 houses in Grenada in six months after the devastation caused by Hurricane Ivan.” David Thompson investigated and found the figure of 500 was inaccurate.
Here’s Mascoll’s explanation now. “….the issue of whether he (Murrell) built 500 houses in Grenada or not was “neither here or there” (Mascoll’s words). Source: Nation, October 15, 2007. No, Mascoll! The figure is relevant. It’s what you used to establish the builder’s credentials and to justify the project. Credibility is based on consistency. You cannot be serious about your credibility when you made a definitive statement a year ago and now say it is “neither here or there”. IT MATTERS! If you cannot give and keep your word on a simple issue, it raises questions as to whether Barbadians can seriously take anything you say at all.
TERMS OF ECFL INVESTMENT
For putting money into Hardwood Housing Factory, ECFL established certain requirements which the company must meet. Where certain specified breaches occur, ECFL says it “shall be entitled to demand repayment in full of all outstanding monies due regarding the class ‘A’ shares (covering its investment) and to take such action as may
be deemed necessary to protect its interest”.
Such action would apply, for example, “if any creditor shall take action against the Company to enforce payment of monies due to such creditor.” The evidence suggests Hardwood Housing Factory came close to breaching this requirement. Up to August 28, the company had issued bounced cheques totalling $33,000 for various services.
One cheque, for the sum of $4,262.60, was written to the Comptroller of Customs. Management has acknowledged there were cash flow problems. Could some of Hardwood’s business practices have been contributing to the problem?
HARDWOOD’S BUSINESS PRACTICES
Clyde Mascoll recently told us that Hardwood Housing Factory is a GOVERNMENT-OWNED company. As junior minister of finance, he shares responsibility with his “boss man” – Owen Arthur, the minister of finance – to ensure the sound and proper management of public finances. Back in July, a month before the bank declined to honour the cheques, concerns were expressed about certain business practices. These concerns are documented. It would be interesting to hear what Mascoll has to say about them. Will he say these too are “neither here nor there”?
The charges were as follows:
There were sites where work was taking place but the sales department had neither a record of these sites nor receipts for any monies deposited in the company’s bank account for the said work. There were persons who were being paid by the company for doing work which the company had not record of.
If such allegations were made against any other government-owned entity, it would be enough to justify an official audit of the company. Taxpayers would demand no less. As a government-owned company, Hardwood should not be treated differently. A strong case exists for an independent forensic audit of Hardwood Housing Factory.
A situation also exists where equipment used by the company – truck, stone mixer, bobcat, excavator, generators – are owned by the minority shareholder rather than the company itself. The minority shareholder acquired the equipment through lease arrangements with Simpson Finance and Consolidated Finance and, in turn, leases them to the company. Mascoll said this arrangement results in “savings of approximately $44,000 per month to the company”. He did not give details of how this is achieved.
It is alleged that Hardwood covers the cost of maintaining the equipment. Normally under arrangements of this kind, those costs are borne by the owner of the equipment. Just over a month ago, both finance companies wrote the owner, bringing to his attention that payments were in arrears. One company even mentioned the possibility of repossession if the issue wasn’t promptly resolved.
After one year in business, what does Hardwood Housing Factory have to show? SEVEN HOUSES built in the New Orleans for the Urban Development Commission (UDC). Initially, there were cost overruns of $248,000 on this project but the figure was later revised downwards to $129,000 by the UDC. Draw your conclusion! Mascoll has complained that “THE LACK OF AVAILABILITY OF LAND” to build houses, has hindered Hardwood’s ability to deliver on its promises. It is refreshing that a member of the Owen Arthur administration has finally admitted the folly of the BLP’s land policy of aiding and abetting the sale of Barbadian land to the highest bidder who increasingly is foreign.
In the case of one St Peter land owner who was approached, readiness to make land available for low income housing was tied to Town Planning approval of other lands for “high end development”. Hardwood Housing’s experience shows how much the BLP’s ill-advised land policy is having the effect of forcing middle and low income Barbadians out of the real estate market.
A MODEL EMPLOYER?
As a government-owned company, Hardwood Housing Factory has an obligation to be a model employer. If a government-owned company disrespects workers, doesn’t it send a wrong message to private enterprise? In just one year of operation, here’s are blemishes on Hardwood’s image as an employer.
Charges of sexual misconduct against a manager.
Charges that employees are shouted at and abused.
Employing workers whose immigration status was not in order.
Being accused by the Barbados Workers Union of violating
International Labour Organization Convention 94 regarding fair
practices.
Keeping a dog inside the factory in violation of the Factories Act
and pressuring workers to clean up the mess.
SOLID CASE FOR PROBE
Going by available evidence, a solid case does exist for a probe, including independent forensic audit, of Hardwood Housing Factory. This isn’t only David Thompson’s fight. It’s YOUR fight. Demand accountability from the BLP! Tell Owen Arthur it’s time to demonstrate real leadership instead of running away from calls for accountability.
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470 responses so far ↓
only me // December 4, 2007 at 7:29 PM
Mascoll needs ro resign immediatly …liar and 2 faced person he is
Kadoo // December 4, 2007 at 7:35 PM
only me,
You are only an idiot… a lost and lonely little idiot.
frankology // December 4, 2007 at 8:16 PM
This information was posted on the blogs long before the start of the No-confidence motion. Was this an advance preview of the motion that was aired by Thompson in Parliament today. If that is the case, we see a total disregard of our Parliamentary System and should be investigated.
This is the same matter discussed by the speaker.
Observing // December 4, 2007 at 8:48 PM
Could we deal with the facts raised in this contribution? and could anyone (and i do mean anyone) please offer a defense, dispute, rebuttal or rational explantion for ANY of the allegations that were made?
yes, Hardwood is “only ” $2 million, but it speaks volumes to the persistent problem with our present government. When trying to solve (or expose) big problems, one has to start somewhere.
SOFTMAN // December 4, 2007 at 9:08 PM
One of the things we have heard a lot about in barbados over the last 8 or so years is this notion of being world class and adhering to world class standards. The BLP and its defenders have been in the forefront of this push to world class status and status. they seem to have abandoned this in the Hardwood debate.
The argument seems to be that bad things have happened at hardwood but there is no direct link to the minister or any clear evidence of him breaking any rules. I strongly suspect that the CEOs and others who have resigned or been fired in the USA over the Sub-prime mortgage crisis could have made such arguments. the differecne is that at the international level the arguments hold no water. Crap happens unde your watch you go whether you were well intentioned or not, or whether there is any direct line to you.
It was pathetic listening to Ms. Thompson attempt to shift blame to the Enterprise Growth Fund. How could the growth fund exercise due diligence with the Minister of State in the Ministry of Financed vouching for the credibility of the firm.
Where is the focus on world class standards now. I was fooled the BLP is intent on keeping political power, the world class chat is just that.
Floyd // December 4, 2007 at 9:11 PM
The Minister of state did not seem to mount a defense against teh accusations levelled. He seemed to say that whatever happened can be overlooked because I was well intentioned and there is no evidence of my breaking any rules.
It must be great to be a manager in Bim, zero accountability for what happens under your watch.
The CEOs form wall street who lost their jods over the mortgage crisis must be packing their bags for bim.
Insider // December 4, 2007 at 9:27 PM
It is clear what happened here. Mascoll fresh into Arthur cabinet wanted to impress. He knew that affordable housing is a big problem for Arthur and he held the hand of Murrell a little to tightly to legitimize the application process at EGF.
He maynot be guilty of corruption but he is guilty of poor judgement. He speaks about the Manager giving herself a raise of eleven grand but when it was refused she gave her daughter the raise itstead. This is the reason she was fired.
Floyd // December 4, 2007 at 9:36 PM
No confidence motions are essentially about poor judgement that compromises the office. As a bajan who wants to see my country go to the next level, I was disappointed that the Minster’s pleas were not followed by a resignation.
How can we tell young people and others in society about responsibility if we do not hold people at this level accountable. No one is saying the minister is a criminal or a bad person. When you are in such high office you cannot exercise such poor judgement and hold on to your position.
The speaker of the house was horrible today. How could the opposition not walk out after the Leader of government businesses’ attempt to truncate the debate.
silently observing // December 4, 2007 at 10:04 PM
mascoll behaved like sad sack in the house today. he did not address the issues raised against him but tried to play the “sympathy” card. he was only helping a poor little black man who was trying to help black people. because of this, he seems to be suggesting that barbadians should overlook the issues. it is time for this joker to leave politics. liz rushes to his defence but it is no surprise. questions were raised about her husband too some time ago. but why does liz have to behave like that all the time? she seems so unfilfilled. she needs a life.
Adrian Hinds // December 4, 2007 at 10:41 PM
good i glad um over, now Owen is clear to set a date for elections. I can’t wait to see if Bajans gine once again apply the “fallacy of the concequent to the doctrine of the “Royal lie” :D
banned // December 4, 2007 at 11:40 PM
How does an idea win favour with the Enterprise Growth Fund based on the fact that it will attract Government support through untendered contracts? Timmy, resign.
1000 lbs of blubber // December 4, 2007 at 11:58 PM
Mascoll should exchange voices with Mia. He sounded like a whining pussy cat today. Anyone noticed BLP lap dog Hal Gollop peeping from gallery as Masscoll made a fool of himself.
Wishing in Vain // December 5, 2007 at 12:01 AM
I must ask why did ASSCOLL choose to shaft Owing and company today with his statement that why worry about his company over $ 2 million when there is so much more to ask about with the ABC Highway contract this was a most revealing statement to me in other words why worry about the small sum of $ 2 million when there is US $ 120 million to be stolen from the taxpayers, I would like to say that he is an idiot but I will refrain from saying this as I believe he knows exactly who he is targeting with his comments and exactly why he said what he said, there is corruption all the way through this gathering of crooks.
He was the complete idiot today and no amount of ranting by mottley and friends will change his position as a looser simple and plain.
Wishing in Vain // December 5, 2007 at 12:02 AM
Hal Gollop is a poor excuse of a man who is living off of the position of the blp, is this what he wants out of life if so I am sorry for you clown.
Andrew // December 5, 2007 at 1:04 AM
If I wuz Liz, I would be the last body tuh talk bout housing.
There are people who are still awaiting the fancy houses she displayed at Country Road.
And who can forget the mess her hussy made with those houses at Kensington Lodge.
Word on the street is that the Government ran away from this no-confidence motion today.
The licks Thompy shared were too hot
David // December 5, 2007 at 6:44 AM
It does appear to be very unusual that the no-confidence motion would have been suspended and the parliament revert to regular business to have the motion resumed next week. This comes against a background where Leader of Government business Mia Mottley has repeatedly stated publicly that they will call private members business every Tuesday to force the Leader of the Opposition to respond who has been accused of running from the issue. Well he was prepared to debate the issue yesterday and the government aided by the Speaker has created a potentially embarrassing situation for Barbados with their ensuing action. We have a long history of political stability and good governance in Barbados. This recent machination by the government in parliament is unacceptable.
Adrian Loveridge // December 5, 2007 at 6:45 AM
Lets just put the politics and personalties aside for a moment and look at the issues.
* $2 million of taxpayers (that knew nothing about it) monies so far put into a Government owned entity that has hardly (no pun intended) produced anything.
* Government contracts awarded without the required tendering process for projects not remotely related to providing low cost affordable housing.
* A minority shareholder leasing equipment and then renting it back to the company at a huge profit.
And there seems to be some doubt whether Mr Murrell has actually paid these lease payments.
* The overall lack of accountability by the Chairman and Directors of the board to regulate the company.
On these grounds alone, someone’s head should roll.
It graphically demonstrates the total contempt this Government has of the people of Barbados, when it can repeatedly squander taxpayers monies with seeming impunity or accountability.
Anonymous // December 5, 2007 at 7:32 AM
Adrian Loveridge,
We have not forgotten how your sorry and incompetent backside was FIRED by the Barbados government long ago.
Hahahaha!!!
Waterboy // December 5, 2007 at 7:41 AM
Anonymous, looks like one of those BIG MOSQUITOS flew right up your as….. and now your backside is all FIRED up.
Observing // December 5, 2007 at 7:50 AM
The amazing thing is that even with all the known facts, the new facts of Mascoll sourcing from Guyana prior to incorporation, the inability of Mascoll to offer ONE legitimate defense of the charges laid against him(cept to say that cheques were deferred, not bounced), the pathetic personal attacks of Liz Thompson (which devalued the debate significantly), the unprecedented about turn AGAIN by Mottley in postponing debate even though she huffed and puffed that they will deal with it whenever it comes, and teh Speaker’s partisan “scolding” of Opposition members for the 2nd week straight…..despite all this, that BLP MPs are going to vote to defeat the motion.
The questions now begs, what will the electorate do, when faced with a callous, uncaring, almost contemptuous government who clearly lacks any form of principles when it comes to integrity, accountability, transparency, sound judgment and decision making, and whose members clearly lack the ability to deal with an serious issue involving OUR TAXPAYERS’ MONEY based on the facts presented.
I love the BLP’s talent, PR and marketing abilities and to some extent what they have done in some areas in teh past 13 years…but all that they have done, and not done in these past 12 months and their refusal to accept any responsibility or at the very least acknowledge my concerns and intelligence as a taxpayer has left my ‘X’ with only one choice come election day. It’s time for a change.
Q // December 5, 2007 at 7:53 AM
Loveridge was “fired” by George Hats Payne. Immediately afterwards Owen chase way Payne . Whats Roy Morris doing these days? Loveridge “firing’ was based on colour and origins (not indigenous enough) not competence. I am wishing the good people of St. andrew really fire idiot Payne this time around. He is wasting taxpayers time and money in House of Assembly. Loveridge is a man of honour.
Wishing in Vain // December 5, 2007 at 8:00 AM
We have a most amazing situation where after on going push for the opposition to debate the motion and they then decide that they are ready, willing and able to proceed the oversized piece of garbage thing decides to run from the debate and bullies the house into a recess and returns to gov’t business, I would suggest that our democratic rights are being taken away.
The statement of the day has to go to the one Malick with teeth ASSCOLL in his patheic sickly manner, could dear it is only a little black boy line just does not cut it, both of you all are smart enough to know that you two conspired to shaft the taxpayers of this nation in no small way.
The statement of the day is when ASSCOLL states that why are they worried about the $ 2 million in his project why not investigate the ABC highway project, this is a very clear statement that implicates the minister of public works and the minister of finance and planning as it strongly suggest by ASSCOLL that GLYNE CLARKE and OWING ARTHUR are stealing out of that project, what a revelation to be made by the idiot ASSCOLL.
Look what gets revealed when this pressure is applied.
Adrian Loveridge // December 5, 2007 at 8:13 AM
Q//… Thank you.
Absolutely right. I chaired a committee (voluntary/unpaid) of 12 private/public sector tourism people including 4 hoteliers which worked on for two years a national plan to revitalise our small hotel sector.
We managed to get an incredible 72 small hoteliers together for a meeting with ex: Minister Payne at Sherbourne, and as I tried to present our recommendations and he told me to sit down and that he had replaced me, because I ‘was not sufficently indigenous’.
He also instructed the, then head of GIS to ensure a TV interview with me wasn’t shown on CBC that evening.
In fact it was carried on the 7pm News and came up as the lead story at 10pm, but as my picture appeared, the screen went blank.
Sacked Minister Payne also stated at the same meeting he had replaced me with Peter Odle.
To the best of my knowledge none of the recommendations made by that committee have been implemented and subsquently Barbados has seen 27 hotels (mostly small) close down during this Government reign.
Mr Payne’s cousin later became Minister of Tourism and rufused to sit in the same Down to Brass Tacks Sunday studio as me on 25th March this year.
Floyd // December 5, 2007 at 9:08 AM
At the next parliamentary session what they should be debating is a “no confidence motion” in the speaker of the house.
I let out a loud stupse when the leader of the opposition seemed reluctant to debate the motion last week. I stupsed even louder when the Leader of Government Business attempted to postpone the debate.
I was shocked and appalled by the speaker’s ruling. That ruling left the opposition no choice but to walk out. His subsequent comment about the leader of the opposition was way below his office.
The opposition should bring a motion of no confidence in the speaker of the house.
Adrian Loveridge // December 5, 2007 at 9:18 AM
Have I missed something?
Mascoll: I was only helping
Wednesday 5th December 2007
Midweek Nation
‘He (Mascoll) also said Murrell’s work was evident on two websites:
http://www.crossroads.ca
and
http://www.samaritansfirst.org‘
Well I really must be missing something, because I cannot find any reference to Mr Murrell or the fact he ‘had built 280 to 300 houses, and trained people to errect temporary structures’ on Grenada.
Just to be sure, I have emailed both organisations and asked them to confirm and clarify their relationship with Mr Murrell.
Wishing in Vain // December 5, 2007 at 9:48 AM
I put it to you that ASSCOLL delivered the single largest blow to Owing and his gang of crooks by his statement that they ought to investigate the ABC highway project, that was the the shot of the day.
For general information neither of the two websites that ASSCOLL provided are doing his cause any good one site forwards to http://onlinebookz.net/?rid=911310 and the other has no mention of Grenada.
Maybe when he thinks about lying he would do us a favour and stop abuseing the house of assembly to do so, this man is a sick liar.
Wishing in Vain // December 5, 2007 at 9:57 AM
Well done Adrian
rejoice // December 5, 2007 at 10:30 AM
Mr Loveridge, over the years I have always spared a moment to listen to your contribution as you oftentimes at a different spin to things. However this time around you are showing your true silly colour(s). Let me take some time out to enlighten you so as to not allow you to fall totally out of grace. I will make an attempt to address some of your concerns.
1. 1 Million dollars was injected as equity into Hardwood Housing as initial startup capital (as a business man if you have any serious interest in this affair) you would have noted how the money was spent and realised honestly that 1 million was not enough to have the company fully functioning at it’s full capacity. The second Million came some 7-8 months later to help with the rising overdraft facility at BNB. ( I know that you are smart enough to realise that the company is building houses and therefore a few things must be taken into consideration.
(a) Person that do have land have like anyone else get town and country planning permission.
(b) Houses with approval have to have land marked out, foundation dug, floor poured etc. this takes time.
So after a company is official launched in Mar/April of 2007 and already did 1.5 million dollars and taking into consideration the above please reconsider your above point.
Point number 2.
Again I address you as a businessman, HHF is a private company funded by a government entity, (I am absolutely sure that you have received financing in the past.) Is HHF limited to only building low income houses, where is that documented.
Point number 3
Tell me where in this world it was ever a problem with any sensible business persons. Having more than one comapny doing business with each other, if you start you are going to touch almost every company in Barbados. You are grossly misinformed as it relates to huge profits as the monthly cost to the company has drastically reduced as a result of this agreement.
point number 4. No Point.
Now to deal with you post “have I missed something”
Mr Mascoll in his passion may have quoted sites rather than associates who Mr. Murrel worked with. Samaritans(First)purse is an international organisation doing missions the world over, there is documented prove of his association with them in Grenada( and the criminal calling herself a pastor)giving Thompson the information knows this).
Crossroads is an international organisation doing missions the world over also, there is documented prove of his association with them in Grenada( and the criminal calling herself a pastor)giving thompson the information knows this). Check http://www.lehmanfamily.ca you will see the cross roads team and you will surely see Mr. Murrel there as the coordinator.
As it relates to the houses built there are person right here in Barbados who can confirm such, but there is a beast who for personal gain would try to deny it. However, you go back to your old newspapers, you would notice that the beast was the one who said that 500 houses were built.
To Mr. Observing, you need to know the facts as truth. Until you do stop posting sh%^.
This not about Mr. Mascoll and David Thompson, this is about the truth as it happened.
It is all about greed by a woman who hates Mr. Thompson’s guts, but for the sake of malice, joined him to destroy a ‘poor black boy’.
Floyd // December 5, 2007 at 10:34 AM
It was one Owen Seymour Arthur who said he was tired about hearing about the “small black man.”
Do not be fooled Mia is please to see Clyde bleed over this one. His credibility has been shot and his ascent in the BLP leadership stakes halted.
rejoice // December 5, 2007 at 10:44 AM
Wishing in Vain,
Your name speaks for itself.
Both Crossroads and Samaritanspurse were in grenada. the site crossroads.ca does have mention of Grenada and the site lehmanfamily.ca who formed part of the crossroads Grenada team, clearly shows Mr. Murrel as coordinator.
Samaritanspurse have a brief writeup on Grenada, however, with a company doing missions everyday do you think that 3 years after you would find much.
There is enough documented proof to show Mr. Murrel’s association with these organisations.
I beg you as a fellow Barbadian, please don’t join in the rush for political gain.
Mr Thompson is gathering his info from a lady not to be trusted. I know that for a fact. I wish I could have told him so before he started.
Wishing in Vain // December 5, 2007 at 11:01 AM
My friend you can talk until the cows come home you and Murrell are guilty as charged you conspired to steal $ 2 million of us the taxpayers monies in your little scam against we the citizens of Barbados.
Your problem is that from the sidelines you have sat and watched just how much money Owing and his gang have stolen and you decide to jump in and get your share, the difference between you and Owing is that he has a clearly setup middle man in Hallam Nicholls to do his deals for him but you are attempting to do the same with someone who is incapable of carrying out an eloborate plan as is required.
You have been part and parcel of this thing called HARDWOOD HOUSING and its fraud let us not even address the issues of rape etc, what you must understand is that you will not be allowed to undertake dishonest acts and not expect to be brought to justice.
Honestly you need a cell at DODDS reserved for you use, you are a dishonest bastard.
Wishing in Vain // December 5, 2007 at 11:03 AM
By ASSCOLLS own admission in his press conference where he stated that it matters nothing that he Murrell did or did not assemble houses in Grenada.
Wishing in Vain // December 5, 2007 at 11:07 AM
with a company doing missions everyday do you think that 3 years after you would find much.
Are you devoid of any sense of the matter at hand, why would you state on public TV that these are two sites that you refer to that fail to work or show nothing, that was totally dumb.
rejoice // December 5, 2007 at 11:07 AM
Insider:
There are many reason why this lady should have been fired, many.
I am not a B, D or Z, but I know the lady very well.
Wishing in Vain // December 5, 2007 at 11:09 AM
She gets fired after his attempt to rape her????
Adrian Loveridge // December 5, 2007 at 11:13 AM
Rejoice..
As you give the impression you are well informed then let us all see the lease documents, payment schedule and invoices from Mr Murrell to Hardwood Housing Factory Inc.
You said:
‘you would notice that the beast was the one who said that 500 houses were built’.
Are you suggesting Mr Mascoll is the beast?
‘Mascoll credited Barbadian Anthony Murrell with the concept, after the latter had supervised the building of 500 houses in Grenada in six months after the devastation caused by Hurricane Ivan’.
‘ The St. Michael North West MP said that in the initial stages between 20 to 25 houses could be produced monthly’.
Both these verbatim quotations were in 6th September 2006 article entitled ‘Home to Go’ by Wade Gibbons in the Nation.
rejoice // December 5, 2007 at 11:15 AM
In Vain.
Who you think void of sense. Mascoll stated that he met Mr. Murrell at the handing over of a house in Ashdeane (Barbados) which Mr. Murrell built for an elderly couple. He also visited other houses built by Mr. Murrell.
His confidence in Mr. Murrell never stemmed from his tenure in Grenada.
Velzo // December 5, 2007 at 11:27 AM
Is the building of the 500 houses a big issue? I thought the $2 million was… or the sexual assault cases … or the employment of Guyanese … or the absence of houses… or the sourcing of wood by the Minister.
Don’t let Grenada side-track you, on any one ground Mascoll stands condemned!
Wishing in Vain // December 5, 2007 at 11:29 AM
HE sold the idea of investing the $2 million of our taxpayers dollars in this venture on the sham of he built 500 homes in 3 months in Grenada this is 5 1/2 homes produced per day, this was your motivation as was clearly stated by you.
I agree with ASSCOLL on one aspect of this debate and that is we obviously need now to investigate the ROAD WORKS PROJECT ABC, DANOS and 3S.
rejoice // December 5, 2007 at 11:31 AM
In Vain
You, like the opposition leader, just clutching at straws.
He made an error by listing Mr. Murrel’s association with the international missions as websites.
Able-2-b-Able // December 5, 2007 at 11:35 AM
Here goes Voice of Barbados again trying to edit overwhelming public opinion. Today December 5, 2007 at 11.20 am as the general public reacts to the situation in Parliament yesterday, David Eliis now want those who think it was handled well by the government to call the station program Down to Brass Tacks at one telephone number, and those who think it was not handled well on separate number. Now this announced policy for today is not a survey. It is an attempt to ensure as he puts it, ” that there is ‘balance’ and both sides views are aired. I think this is really interfering with the airing of surge of opinion in the country generallyl. I think that VOB should stop this fooolishness. I am getting fed up. They are tryimg to control output from the public to appease the powers that be. It seems that another $60,000 pay out must be avoid at all costs.
rejoice // December 5, 2007 at 11:50 AM
Adrian
As I stated earlier I enjoy the fact that you come with other views, however, please don’t let your hated for the current Government cloud your judgement.
Was anything about 500 houses placed in the proposal for funding?
Don’t come with smoke screens, lets deal with the pertinent points.
Tell me this Adrian, is Mr. Murrell capable of building these houses? The evidence speaks for itself. Did Mr. Mascoll approve the funding? How could he, EGFL is very capable of assessing business plans and the viability of such.
I think EGFL did a wonderful and it would very soon speak for itself.
Now lets look at this with a different spin. HHF was established to provide lower income housing. We all know and that includes the opposition leader that housing problems was number one on the list of things the opposition would come after the government with in the upcoming elections. If for one minute HHF acquires land to build the houses that it is capable of building in a short space of time, two things would happen.
1. We poor people would have the opportunity to own our own home.
2. The opposition leader would have to look for other issues to bring to the table, as the housing issue even though not being solved, would be addressed.
When I see you we will have a chat about who the real beast is.
Wishing in Vain // December 5, 2007 at 11:50 AM
VOB as of last Sunday has lost all creditabilty in my books, the moderator with her loyal party status showed her bias from the moment the show began.
Adrian Hinds // December 5, 2007 at 11:56 AM
Today is my Birthday, and i have gotten a gift that i did not expect. I honestly search high and low for a way that public perception at the end of this no-confidence would have been kind to Thompson for i believed, and did so from the perspective of what would pertain in the court of public opinion that this called for a no-confidence motion was not a good idea. I also did premise this concern with the view that if Thompson did not bring new evidence and strong new evidence he was doomed in the public eye. Well he didn’t disappoint, and it seems to have put the BLP in a spin. Wow. Two things occurred that i believe struck fear in the heart of the BLP.
1: Mascoll comment and attempt to trade off one accusation against the government for another and there by implicating a fellow party member. That to my mind introduce a level of uncertainty, that Mia could not let play out. Remember my comment about “oil and water” BLPites.
2: Thompson introduction of new evidence that demanded a response from Mr. Mascoll. It is the type of evidence that Mascoll must know whether it is true or not.
….and this is in the backdrop of a BLP that first attempted to force the Thompson to bring the motion, then sought to embarrass him into bringing it by scheduling every tuesday until he did, and when thompson finally did, they sought to postpone it in a way that tells me they have something to hide.
rejoice // December 5, 2007 at 11:58 AM
In Vain
Please tell me honestly what Mr. Mascoll did wrong?
Or is it only because he is not in your party.
Floyd // December 5, 2007 at 11:58 AM
rejoice are you really convinced the Minister of State acted properly as far as the firm hardwood Housing was concerned.
Errors of judgement by a Minister are hardly enough to condemn a government. Prime Ministers fore ministers all the time. What may condemn a government is the failure to discipline Ministers who acted in a manner not befitting their office.
No one is calling the Minister of State a criminal, a bad person or even incompetent. the issue is that his involvement seems to go way beyond the remit of any government minister. One must both be and appear to be above board.
Your posts on this issue smack of blind party loyalty. The PM has fired Ministers for less.
rejoice // December 5, 2007 at 12:00 PM
What is the new evidence Mr. Hinds
Floyd // December 5, 2007 at 12:08 PM
Rejoice, you keep missing the point. people in positions of power have to take responsibility for what happens under their watch. you saw what happened to the ceos of the banks and other business places in the usa and europe as a result of the mortgage crisis. what did they do that was wrong” if crap happens under your watch then you take the blame.
It is clear that a lot of crap happened at hardwood, while it was actively being advocated for by the Minister of state.
Wishing in Vain // December 5, 2007 at 12:09 PM
It is indeed funny that this was touted as the solution to our housing issues but to date they have a massive sum of what 7 homes out there, one would have thought with such a need for these homes that there would have been in wide distribution and in every nook and cranny of Barbados, but to my amazement there is little or no real movement towards these houses.
All smoke screen and fireworks ASSCOLL you are deemed a totally dishonest person.
rejoice // December 5, 2007 at 12:11 PM
Floyd, you are so very wrong as it relates to party loyalty.
I just happen to know, just like some of Thompson’s other opposition members that this is folly.
Mr. Mascoll saw an opportunity to help a man trying to expand his business, the gentleman was going to BNB for financing. Due to the nature of the business it did not make sense to have that kind of financing so the alternative was for Mr. Murrell to have a business plan done by BIDC ( this is nothing new) and submitted to EGFL.
If you can show me Mr. Mascoll involvement after that please let me know.
And BTW what was Mr. Mascoll to gain, or what have he gained.
Adrian Loveridge // December 5, 2007 at 12:14 PM
Ok. Rejoice, I’ll look forward to the chat.
Please remember though, that I am now being very cautious about who I meet after the almost daily death threats.
By the way, I don’t hate the current Government, just some of things they are doing, and Hardwood Housing Factory Inc, is a classic example.
Why not tell the people how the company was structured and exactly who owned it.
Do you really think Mr Murrell could have not found a private sector partner IF he had a good business plan?
Clearly Hardwood Housing Factory Inc, did NOT have a good business plan despite some of the people being involved oncluding a common director/chairman of EGFL.
And finally, help me understand why giving the company (HHF Inc.) a contract to build Government pavillions is helping poor people get houses quicker?
rejoice // December 5, 2007 at 12:15 PM
Floyd
FYI, the first official day of HHF life there were over 12oo applicants. By week 2 over 2000.
When Mr. Thompson made the statement about the houses the compnay was then at 15 houses.
My friend plz remember that this is just only 8-9 months from official startup.
Wishing in Vain // December 5, 2007 at 12:17 PM
I have no party but despise you and your lot of fraudsters, I am motivated to speak out by actions such as yours.
You and your party are responsible for raping this country in no small way, the public have woken up and will no longer accept your corruption.
This is the reality of the situation, you must learn that corruption is now being seen as a big no go and people from all walks of life are being put behind bars for dishonesty in public trust.
You day may not be to far away, would you like to reserve a special cell ?
Floyd // December 5, 2007 at 12:19 PM
the issue is the extent of ministerial involvement which is improper. This is not about david thompson of whom I know little.
I meant well is not a good enough excuse for such an error of judgment. the minister needs to go to the backbench and rebuild his career rather than act with such disdain for reasonable notions of ministerial responsibility.
rejoice // December 5, 2007 at 12:23 PM
Adrian
It is sad that in this country that I so dearly love that you would be under death threats, I am sorry to hear that.
I am almost sure that if Mr. Murrell had a choice today he would take your advice rather than go to EGFL.
Business is business Adrian, pavillion, houses, whatever, if it is made out of wood, then why not.
Wishing in Vain // December 5, 2007 at 12:23 PM
the first official day of HHF life there were over 12oo applicants. By week 2 over 2000.
With all these applications and we have the grand total of 7 homes does this not confuse you ?
What have you done wrong ASSCOLL ? It is your personal involvement in securing raw materials for HARDWOOD HOUSING.
Adrian Hinds // December 5, 2007 at 12:23 PM
Rejoice says:
on December 5, 2007 at 12:00 pm
What is the new evidence Mr. Hinds
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Read your newspaper, i have little time to read things to adults especially those who are pretending to be when in fact they are willfully faking ignorance.
rejoice // December 5, 2007 at 12:25 PM
FLoyd
Can you please tell me where the error in judgement is. Please….
Adrian Hinds // December 5, 2007 at 12:27 PM
Does anyone see any similarities between Hammie Lahs response to the ackee tree and other incidents? and what Mascoll has said yesterday?
Wishing in Vain // December 5, 2007 at 12:32 PM
rejoice AKA ASSCOLL
I am still awaiting your reply to my question, why not try to defend your actions and repent for your error in judgement.
the first official day of HHF life there were over 12oo applicants. By week 2 over 2000.
With all these applications and we have the grand total of 7 homes does this not confuse you ?
What have you done wrong ASSCOLL ? It is your personal involvement in securing raw materials for HARDWOOD HOUSING
rejoice // December 5, 2007 at 12:32 PM
Mr. Hinds
On your birthday you are probably having to much to drink.
The new evidence is a letter from a gentleman dated Oct 2006.
Can you tell me when Hardwood Housing was incorporated?
Can you tell me when EGFL got involved?
Can you show me where Mr. Mascoll is gaining anything from this whole story?
Wishing in Vain // December 5, 2007 at 12:47 PM
Well they amassed $ 2 million in gov’t and taxpayers financing and they are still writing cheques that bounce and Murrell is saving HARDWOOD HOUSING $ 44,000.00 per month with equipment he lease in his name from Simpsons Finance for $ 26,000.00 then onward lease the same equipment to HARDWOOD HOUSING at $ 56,000.00 your maths suggest a savings I do not understand how but you are the one with the degree.
Is the difference in the savings where you and Murrell are carrying out the scam by splitting the excess in two shares?
Anyway with actions such as these no wonder you are having difficulty with cash flow and you are bouncing cheques.
rejoice // December 5, 2007 at 12:51 PM
In Vain
I don’t know what you are trying to imply.
If the minister had time to be here blogging he would really want firing.
I am sure I said applicants, I am also sure that I stated that the company is only truly operating for the last 8 months.
I am also sure that you know that more than 7 houses were built.
You want to be caught up in propaganda rather than facts so go right ahead.
When I see wrong buddy I call it out loud, and very loud. I care about Barbados my friend not about party.
Yes I have similarities to Mascoll, I have a deep care for the poor and disadvantage and I left the party also, long before he did, I left with the false IMF info.
Wishing in Vain // December 5, 2007 at 1:03 PM
Good for you I now fully understand your loyality and your bias.
Read that Nation of today and tell me if they have been so honest why then are these letters bshowing ASSCOLL acting as an agent of HARDWOOD HOUSING trying to arrange to source wood from Guyana.
rejoice // December 5, 2007 at 1:04 PM
In Vain
Again I have to correct your silly ^%&, When the cheque were stopped HHF had only up to that time received 1 million dollars in Government funds. (please dont be a Thompson)
The company lease the Vehicles for around 12,000 dollars per month.
That decision was made just after the company paid close to 100,000 dollars for such services.
Deal with the facts please leave out what Thompson have fed to you. He to knows that it is wrong, why did he have to call the White chairman to ask him pardon.
Wishing in Vain // December 5, 2007 at 1:12 PM
rejoice AKA ASSCOLL
No my friend you are a liar without bounds, the lease figure is $ 26,000.00 as was clearly seen by the producing of the documents for those to see at Deacons road and in the house yesterday.
You have clearly be exposed as sick in the mind and a liar because along with the other 9,999 persons that attended the Deacons road meeting when the lease documents were shown including a document indicating there were in default in their repayments.
Sorry you needed the second million to avoid bounce cheques but what do you say now about cheques being bounced now even after the inflow of the second million?
rejoice // December 5, 2007 at 1:14 PM
In Vain
Do you understand that the letter predated the existence of hardwood housing.
If you see something wrong with a man trying to help another then you got issues. If Mr. Mascoll was meeting with suppliers after a government entity was involved then Icould understand your ranting.
Now you answer my question, what has he to gain.
Wishing in Vain // December 5, 2007 at 1:20 PM
You are defending somthing that cannot be defended.
So poor you are in your defence that you resort to lying to make a point that is as about as low as you can stoop in your own support.
You could have asked one of your pimps to honestly report to you the outcome of the meeting at DEACONS ROAD.
Actually visit the DLP website and you will acquaint youself with the facts as were presented in black and white.
Also note the name that the equipment is leased in not HARDWOOD HOUSING but rather in the name of the minority shareholder A Murrell, my only surprise is that your name did not appear alongside his on the lease agreement.
Wishing in Vain // December 5, 2007 at 1:24 PM
HE MET WITH THE MAN AS THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE PRIME MINISTERS OFFICE and acted as an AGENT OF HARDWOOD HOUSING however and whatever you try to spin he is implicated and deeply so with dishonesty in public service..
Guilty as charged !!!!
Next point???
rejoice // December 5, 2007 at 1:25 PM
In Vain
This is my last response to you as you have choosen to call me a liar based on things you know not about.
The 26,000 is a total of how much per month, you work that out.
The company does infact owe to Mr. Murrell, the amount I do not know.
I don’t know about the company bouncing cheques since the 2 million but you and your propaganda machine can spread that also.
I must ask, what does all that have to do with Mr. Mascoll.
In Vain, You know what is really funny about the whole lease thing. It has nothing at all to do with Mascoll. It is not foreign to business. And to top it all off the person who gave Mr. Thompson the said papers that he was showing around and calling it all wrong, was a joint partner in the leasing business. I kid you not
Wishing in Vain // December 5, 2007 at 1:26 PM
DID you or are you capable of reading the address line of the letter and the contents of the letter, if you can please do so take a rest, you lot must rate as the most lying thieves ever to walk these halls of the house of Assembly.
Wishing in Vain // December 5, 2007 at 1:31 PM
the person who gave Mr. Thompson the said papers that he was showing around and calling it all wrong, was a joint partner in the leasing business.
I see you now suggesting that Mr Kyffin Simpson provided Mr Thompson with these documents you are a sad person indeed you are, I suggest to you that these documents were straight out of your corrupt office.
Wishing in Vain // December 5, 2007 at 1:36 PM
This is my last response to you as you have choosen to call me a liar.
I call it as I see it and you earned the classification, you are a stranger to the truth you have been seen to be a compulsive liar to defend your actions.
rejoice // December 5, 2007 at 1:40 PM
In Vain
I don’t blame you my friend, I went to Queens Park also. Yes I felt like a fool after and wow never to support David Thompson again.
That does not mean I will support the BLP.
BTW, every piece of document relating to Hardwood Housing that can be shown by Thompson is already known.
Only persons that I ever lie to is women buddy no need to lie for a politician. I just happen to be well acquainted with the whole issue.
I just here to defend the truth.
I shout loud when the BLP do crap. This government is far from perfect. However, Mr. Thompson is so hooked on getting at Mascoll and found a lady so Hooked on getting at Mr. Murrell that this is what we are reduced to.
Adrian Hinds // December 5, 2007 at 1:45 PM
David // December 5, 2007 at 6:44 am
It does appear to be very unusual that the no-confidence motion would have been suspended and the parliament revert to regular business to have the motion resumed next week. This comes against a background where Leader of Government business Mia Mottley has repeatedly stated publicly that they will call private members business every Tuesday to force the Leader of the Opposition to respond who has been accused of running from the issue. Well he was prepared to debate the issue yesterday and the government aided by the Speaker has created a potentially embarrassing situation for Barbados with their ensuing action. We have a long history of political stability and good governance in Barbados. This recent machination by the government in parliament is unacceptable.
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All the signs where there. We knew these things but we always have shown the willingness to stumble upon the truth, and carry on as if nothing has occurred. This is what naked pragmatism that all in Barbados including you has subscribe to for so long, some under the pretences of being pure and proper others do so while exclaiming to be adherence to the facts and to the truth. Well facts in this case is the occurrence of things that we would wish did not occur, and now that they have, I am willing to bet that some other requirement will be called for as to why we cannot see things for what they really are. Our system of governance is and has always been a farce. It has always been left up to the person with integrity to give our system it’s validity. When as is now the case those person can be accuse of have having little integrity are in charge, and in cases where they will work within the law which also means that they will act as they see fit when no law speaks to a specific action then you see the naked of our system and it as should be expected very, embarrassing.
…..Again how does anyone expect change from this lot? How? because they tell us that they will this time?
Wishing in Vain // December 5, 2007 at 1:48 PM
I just here to defend the truth.
Well then you missed the point 100 % Maybe you should make youself aware of the issues of HARDWOOD HOUSING before commenting and making dishonest and untruth representation, it will give you a more honest view point.
rejoice // December 5, 2007 at 2:10 PM
In Vain
Clearly any sensible person here would see that you are just following what is being splurred by the opposition leader.
I know what I know and I know the truth, what I don’t know I would say I don’t know.
I am sure you realise that I said that I don’t know if the company is currently bouncing checks. When I am not sure I am not going to defend.
You seem to like propaganda. I like the truth.
Unlike you I am not interesting in Party my friend, my interest is who I believe can effectively lead this sweet little island. It is not David Thompson and BTW it is not Clyde Mascoll either.
Bajanboy // December 5, 2007 at 2:15 PM
Hardwood Housing had better start building some houses soon. If no houses are built by the time elections are called, the electorate will be seeking blood. This issue is not going to go away.
rejoice // December 5, 2007 at 2:20 PM
BajanBoy
Hardwood Housing building houses as we speak, the opposition trying hard to destroy this company so as to bring about just what you stated.
MASSIE // December 5, 2007 at 2:23 PM
I agree totally with Rejoice….some people are hoping for a malicious scandal to hurt Mascoll and the Government…But Thompson can do much better than this!. Firstly, the project was not intended to be government led, but since a govt Agency provided the venture capital, it is natural that Govt would want to ensure that they can guard the risk involved. Apart from openly admitting that he assisted the project in its inception, it is natural that a vicarious watch be made on what he, mascoll had help into a reality. Thompson and his supporters are very unrealistic in the timeline for a company, which based on the housiong demand, can be worth $150,000,000 in 3 years time if given the chance. But for such a company to succeed, is a stake in the DLP’s Heart and A Laurel for mascoll, hence the hypocrisy. I do not get the feeling that DAvid really cares about the viability or the project but is more intent on imputing improper motives to Mascoll, who it seems had one intention as an economist, address the housing problems for low income workers. Do we have Ministers, who can only come up with ideas for their ministries…then the whole pack of them need firing. We want hardworking parliamentarians, but gutter politics seem to prevail when there is no substance
Wishing in Vain // December 5, 2007 at 2:32 PM
I respectfully suggest to you that if they received 12oo applicants on the first official day of HHF life and by week 2 over 2000.
And today they have no more than 7 constructed houses in place how many you figure they will get constructed by election time which for all intents and purposes should be around mid January?
One wonders if they can actually secure the wood required to do so because this is yet another angle of the HARDWOOD HOUSING FIASCO PROJECT.
I would suggest to ASSCOLL he better give this HARDWOOD to mottley to she can make use of it in anyway as he has not been able to get it to work for him.
the first official day of HHF life there were over 12oo applicants. By week 2 over 2000.
With all these applications and we have the grand total of 7 homes does this not confuse you ?
What have you done wrong ASSCOLL ? It is your personal involvement in securing raw materials for HARDWOOD HOUSING.
Floyd // December 5, 2007 at 2:42 PM
Errors of judgment for you rejoice.
1. publicly claiming that 500 houses were built when this does not seem to be true. As a lending institution an entrepreneur’s track record is crucial. It would be difficult and most unusual for the enterprise growth fund to ignore such a strong reference from a senior government minister.
2. the Minister of State’s close personal involvement in what appears to be operational issues at hardwood. It seems that because the minister was so anxious to help that persons doing business with hardwood could barely distinguish between him and the company. That is unacceptable for a government minister.
3. he continued and continues to advoctae for this firm despite relatively poor performance by this firm as well as serious allegations of sexual harassment and evidence of financial mismanagement. as a senior government minister you have to distance yourselves from these things however much you want to help. The enterprise growth fund’s due diligence is compromised by the strong advocacy of a senior govt minister.
4. despite its poor track record to date, hardwood has been granted further building contracts. One cannot help but link that to the Minister’s endorsements.
Do you need more rejoice
Wishing in Vain // December 5, 2007 at 2:42 PM
MASSIE
When you can address some of the issues as they are below and clearly show us that ASSCOLL was not acting as an AGENT of HARDWOOD HOUSING maybe then we will listen to you.
Until then I have no reason to belief other than he is guilty as charged and by extension so to Murrell and TONY HOYOS for his role in the lending and borrowing of this matter.
HE MET WITH THE MAN AS THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE PRIME MINISTERS OFFICE and acted as an AGENT OF HARDWOOD HOUSING however and whatever you try to spin he is implicated and deeply so with dishonesty in public service..
Guilty as charged !!!!
Next point???
HE sold the idea of investing the $2 million of our taxpayers dollars in this venture on the sham of he built 500 homes in 3 months in Grenada this is 5 1/2 homes produced per day, this was your motivation as was clearly stated by you.
I agree with ASSCOLL on one aspect of this debate and that is we obviously need now to investigate the ROAD WORKS PROJECT ABC, DANOS and 3S.
Bajanboy // December 5, 2007 at 2:57 PM
Besides the seven houses already built, how many other houses are under construction, and for how many are planning permission presently being sought.
Wishing in Vain // December 5, 2007 at 2:59 PM
This is an excellent summary of the problems that he has set himself up for with his tampering with acting as an AGENT of HARDWOOD HOUSING what an idiot he has turned out to be.
Thistle
December 5, 2007 at 6:33 am
I am hurt. Poor little me, I only weigh 120 pounds and that heavy roller over there has come along and squashed poor little me to bits. And the thing is, I am such a nice, wonderful person. I have done nothing wrong. All I did was help a poor little black man. I am hurt.
Yeah, right. If not the exact words, that was the meaning conveyed by Clyde Mascoll in his reply to David Thompson in the No Confidence Debate yesterday.
You were hurt, Mascoll? SO WHAT ABOUT THOSE LADIES WHO WERE SEXUALLY ASSAULTED? AND HOW ABOUT THE “POOR BLACK STAFF” AT THE HARDWOOD COMPANY WHO WERE NOT PAID? AND WHAT ABOUT BARBADIANS ON THE JOB BEING PAID LESS THAN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS? Well, to hell with them as far as you are concerned. YOU were hurt. ME, ME, ME. I, I, I. Me, myself and I Clyde Mascoll.
It has always been that way with Clyde Mascoll. It was embarrassing to listen to and watch him on TV as he whimpered and squeaked his way through his diatribe about himself and what a wonderful person he is. PATHETIC. And you know what? I’ll bet you not one of those BLP Parliamentarians have the guts to abstain or go against the Motion. They’re all in this massive stealing together and not one of them will give up his/her position as a piggy feeding at the trough. Life is TOO SWEET for them.
RING THE DAMN BELL, OWEN.
Observing // December 5, 2007 at 3:07 PM
For all those willing to defend Hardwood, could you please give a simple yes / no to any or all of the questions below…. and keep explanations to a minimum…uh beg ya… My mind is set solely on issues as encapsualted in the no-confidence motino, not personalities or politricks….
1. did the minister of state involve himself in acuiring wood from Guyana for Hardwood, and do suppliers there feel that Mascoll is “connected” to the company?
2. Is it OK for a “private” company to be given rent free accommodation at a BIDC building as Hardwood has?
3. Did Hardwood receive contracts to build pavilions for the NSC, without a tender process?
4. Did Hardwood hire illegal immigrants at its site?
5. Did Hardwood breach labor laws at the site?
6. Did Hardwood issue unsatisfied cheques? or “issued cheques when there was no money for them to be paid?”
7. Have workers at Hardwood been sexually harassed, or, does Murrell have pending charges for such behaviuour?
8. If the answer to 7 is yes, did Masscoll know about this.
9. Did Mascoll use the building of 500 houses as a “good track record” for assisting and financing Hardwood?
10. Where (or in which section) on any of the mentioned sites is Murrell to be seen as coordinator of the Grenada projects?
11. Did Hardwood take deposits from citizens for the building of houses? If so, where is this money…in addition to the start-up capital?
12. How does the equipment lease arrangement benefit taxpayers? and please break it down simply for us.
13. Does Hardwood have the finances, or the materials AS WE SPEAK, to build how much ever houses forthwith, should land “mysteriously” appear tomorrow?
14. Didn’t Murrell state “He told the DAILY NATION the company had acquired several acres of land in Christ Church and St Peter, and with support from banking and mortgage institutions, was preparing to launch a major housing initiative.” If this land was indeed acquired, why aren’t any houses on it yet?
rejoice // December 5, 2007 at 3:14 PM
• Errors of judgment for you rejoice.
1. publicly claiming that 500 houses were built when this does not seem to be true. As a lending institution an entrepreneur’s track record is crucial. It would be difficult and most unusual for the enterprise growth fund to ignore such a strong reference from a senior government minister.
A) I will say this again and for the final time. The proposal for financing to EGFL had nothing about 500 being built in Grenada. EGFL approved the loan funding around Dec 1996, I stand corrected give or take a month. No where in the proposal sent to EGFL is it stated that Mr. Anthony Murrell built 500 houses.
2. the Minister of State’s close personal involvement in what appears to be operational issues at hardwood. It seems that because the minister was so anxious to help that persons doing business with hardwood could barely distinguish between him and the company. That is unacceptable for a government minister.
b) What is your proof of this, I can be the first to tell you that the minister refused to get involved in HHF issues. The ministers’ only involvement was long before the company was being financed even before its incorporation.
3. he continued and continues to advoctae for this firm despite relatively poor performance by this firm as well as serious allegations of sexual harassment and evidence of financial mismanagement. as a senior government minister you have to distance yourselves from these things however much you want to help. The enterprise growth fund’s due diligence is compromised by the strong advocacy of a senior govt minister.
c) Again, where is your evidence of such? I am not going to comment much on the sexual harassment, but you answer this question. If you were sexually harass by your employer in month A would you wait to some 4 – 6 months after to report it to the police the day after you are laid off, after being prodded by a wicked witch calling herself a pastor? (get the facts, buddy)Tell me about the poor performance of a company less than a year old. HHF have a very strong CEO, and four other directors who are representing EGFL. The other director is Mr. Anthony Murrell. Come on man.
4. despite its poor track record to date, hardwood has been granted further building contracts. One cannot help but link that to the Minister’s endorsements.
d) What is the poor track record, let me hear it, the company started building houses in March, again, give or take a month. Have built/currently building over 22 houses. Is that a poor track record in 8 months after all the initial problems and now all this?
You will never be satisfied because you are hoping for something out of nothing
Adrian Loveridge // December 5, 2007 at 3:16 PM
Observing…
So well put and most of us know the answers.
What phrase did Senator Linton use on Brass Tacks today?
‘Dog dancing’…………… and thats exactly what the defenders of HHF Inc., are doing, trying to escape and ignore the issues.
Guilty on all charges.
Wishing in Vain // December 5, 2007 at 3:17 PM
1. did the minister of state involve himself in acuiring wood from Guyana for Hardwood, and do suppliers there feel that Mascoll is “connected” to the company? YES
2. Is it OK for a “private” company to be given rent free accommodation at a BIDC building as Hardwood has? NO
3. Did Hardwood receive contracts to build pavilions for the NSC, without a tender process?
YES
4. Did Hardwood hire illegal immigrants at its site? YES
5. Did Hardwood breach labor laws at the site?
YES
6. Did Hardwood issue unsatisfied cheques? or “issued cheques when there was no money for them to be paid?” YES
7. Have workers at Hardwood been sexually harassed, or, does Murrell have pending charges for such Behaviour? YES
8. If the answer to 7 is yes, did Masscoll know about this. YES because he intervened to try to halt the legal process.
9. Did Mascoll use the building of 500 houses as a “good track record” for assisting and financing Hardwood? YES
10. Where (or in which section) on any of the mentioned sites is Murrell to be seen as coordinator of the Grenada projects? NONE
11. Did Hardwood take deposits from citizens for the building of houses? If so, where is this money…in addition to the start-up capital? UNKNOWN
12. How does the equipment lease arrangement benefit taxpayers? and please break it down simply for us. It Simply does not, not when they are leased from Simpson Finance at $ 26,000.0 and then onward lease to HARDWOOD HOUSING at $ 56,000.00
13. Does Hardwood have the finances, or the materials AS WE SPEAK, to build how much ever houses forthwith, should land “mysteriously” appear tomorrow? THIS IS A VERY CONTENTIOUS ISSUE SOME SAY NO.
14. Didn’t Murrell state “He told the DAILY NATION the company had acquired several acres of land in Christ Church and St Peter, and with support from banking and mortgage institutions, was preparing to launch a major housing initiative.” If this land was indeed acquired, why aren’t any houses on it yet?
LACK OF WOOD I SUGGEST.
MASSIE // December 5, 2007 at 3:23 PM
hello In VAin And Observing<
Is it an error in judgement to assist a barbadian with an idea.
Let Thompson produce a cheque paid to or by Minister Mascoll as an agent To a supplier in Guyana.
Mr. Phillip Taitt wanted $12% per board metre for every piece of lumber obtained. A company not formed, and he was seeking to rape it…this is the real sexual assault. No agreement was made with him, that is how Thompson heard of his personal grievance. They are a lot of people, who seek to rob government at every turn, and all we do is think that it is the politicians. yes they are some “questionable habits” by politicos, but vultures like Mr. Taitt will circle a company such as HHF, but as long as there is life he will die of hunger. Hunger for revenge from a scam he tried to pull. If Mr. mascoll stole money…show where and when. Egfl issues checks to providers based on approved documentation. When would Mascoll get his hands on any money. We scrape the very dirt from between the cracks of hell, to get blood…..but only the guilty will fall!
Wishing in Vain // December 5, 2007 at 3:23 PM
The only thing left to do now is to apply the noose around his neck and let him stand on the trap door.
GUILTY AS CHARGED he is one dishonest money greedy, bastard.
MASSIE // December 5, 2007 at 3:30 PM
When will Thompson Explain the monies recd for waivers given to certain entities under his ” govt” reign of terror. He should be the last to talk. Let the hangman start with David and true purging of government and parliament would have started.!
MASSIE // December 5, 2007 at 3:32 PM
i too left the party when he resigned both positions, President and opposition leader. Lazy Bastard!. When thinks look good, he come back like the prodigal son, David you should be tied to an asses tail and pissed to death!
rejoice // December 5, 2007 at 3:35 PM
• Observing
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1. did the minister of state involve himself in acuiring wood from Guyana for Hardwood, and do suppliers there feel that Mascoll is “connected” to the company?
HHF has one supplier out of Guyana, Mr. Anthony Murrell meet with an agent for that company here and went over to Guyana to ensure that all was above board.
2. Is it OK for a “private” company to be given rent free accommodation at a BIDC building as Hardwood has?
What does this have to do with Clyde Mascoll, if that is so and HHF is getting benefits that cannot be explained then take it up with Government or those responsible.
3. Did Hardwood receive contracts to build pavilions for the NSC, without a tender process?
What does this have to do with Clyde Mascoll, if that is so and HHF is getting benefits that cannot be explained then take it up with Government or those responsible.
4. Did Hardwood hire illegal immigrants at its site?
Again what does this have to do with Clyde Mascoll
5. Did Hardwood breach labor laws at the site?
What does this have to do with Clyde Mascoll
6. Did Hardwood issue unsatisfied cheques? or “issued cheques when there was no money for them to be paid?”
This again has nothing to do with Clyde Mascoll
7. Have workers at Hardwood been sexually harassed, or, does Murrell have pending charges for such behaviuour?
What does this have to do with Clyde Mascoll
8. If the answer to 7 is yes, did Masscoll know about this.
What does this have to do with Clyde Mascoll
9. Did Mascoll use the building of 500 houses as a “good track record” for assisting and financing Hardwood?
I was not aware that Mr. Mascoll works for EGFL, however, the proposal for financing has nothing about the 500 houses as far as I know.
10. Where (or in which section) on any of the mentioned sites is Murrell to be seen as coordinator of the Grenada projects?
I must admit that the minister screwed his information up there a little and should have listed those two groups as person who Mr. Murrell worked along with. But you can feel free to go to lehmanfamily.ca and you would find info there.
11. Did Hardwood take deposits from citizens for the building of houses? If so, where is this money…in addition to the start-up capital?
What does this have to do with Mr. Mascoll
12. How does the equipment lease arrangement benefit taxpayers? and please break it down simply for us.
What does this have to do with Mr. Mascoll
13. Does Hardwood have the finances, or the materials AS WE SPEAK, to build how much ever houses forthwith, should land “mysteriously” appear tomorrow?
What does this have to do with Mr. Mascoll
14. Didn’t Murrell state “He told the DAILY NATION the company had acquired several acres of land in Christ Church and St Peter, and with support from banking and mortgage institutions, was preparing to launch a major housing initiative.” If this land was indeed acquired, why aren’t any houses on it yet?
What does this have to do with Mr. Mascoll
If you want me to try to answer any of the questions not pertaining to Mr. Mascoll then start your blog different. I am prepared to answer if I did not do so before.
Wishing in Vain // December 5, 2007 at 3:36 PM
MASSIE lets not alter the truth any further than you and rejoiced have attempted to today.
The man ASSCOLL is addressed as the agent in the letter published in the paper today end of story pal he is percieved as such by those connected to him why would I feel differently why because he has been caught?
For someone not involved in the day to day running of HARDWOOD HOUSING it seems awfully strange that he gets referred to as a agent of the company.
Your second point the rape is not a laughing matter as you try to pretend that it is, this is real and disgusting act that Murrell has been charged for no if buts or maybes he is before the courts as we speak.
Not sure why you bunch choose not to face the reality that this is a fraudent operation being run by a group of fraudsters???
Explain the disparity between Murrell leasing equipment in HIS NAME from Simpson Finance at $ 26,000.00 and forward leasing it to HARDWOOD HOUSING at $ 56,000.00 when I get a sensible reply to this I will be happy, there is every chance that difference was to be shared between he and ASSCOLL over the period of time.
Wishing in Vain // December 5, 2007 at 3:41 PM
MASSIE are you and rejoiced one and the same ?
My bet is yes.
Wishing in Vain // December 5, 2007 at 3:42 PM
When you ask about the waivers do you know that it was Mr Bree St.John who did all the legal work on that matter, your ass is showing the higher you climb.
rejoice // December 5, 2007 at 3:49 PM
In Vain
I don’t swear but you a total jackass, Your information on the lease is totally incorrect.
You are so silly, the man wrote to the Minister in Oct 2006, I repeat to you for the uptient time Oct 2006.
You are trying to be a devils advocate but you better be careful.
You can find out what Mr. Mrrell owns and see if you can get the lease calculated I am more than sure you are not even going to get to 10,000 dollars a month.
If we were not in a virtual room I would bet you one hard cuff in your face and I hope when I give it to you it knock you senses back into position.
rejoice // December 5, 2007 at 3:52 PM
Should I believe that you and all the other desperate Ds on this site are one of the same.
If you are it makes no difference to me, the facts remain the facts and the truth the truth.
You can’t handle the truth because it is propaganda’s enemy. And you love propaganda.
Whoever is Massie
Anonymous // December 5, 2007 at 3:53 PM
So rejoice I take it that you are happy with the various happenings at hardwood. you appear to see no evidence of the minster of state being unacceptably involved in the formation and operations of this company.
I would question at least the judgement of a person who continues to provide references for a person who continues to do shite.
Wishing in Vain // December 5, 2007 at 3:53 PM
rejoiced
What does this have to do with Mr. Mascoll?
Your defense is weak almost a non defense let me state for you Mr. ASSCOLL your first error in judgment came as result of you being intimately involved in the operations and sourcing wood for the company and as is clearly shown in the paper today all those involved and working with him on this project perceived him as an agent of HARDWOOD HOUSING now if those that are part and parcel of the operation and in the know perceive him as an AGENT of HARDWOOD HOUSING how then are we to see him any differently?
You erred in your judgment and you are being taken to task Jerome Walcott would suggest to you to bend over and take it like a man, you played with taxpayers monies and you got caught simple as that, your next piece of news is when Owing finally opts to drop you and fire you from your job.
rejoice // December 5, 2007 at 3:53 PM
In Vain
I don’t swear but you a total jack&^*, Your information on the lease is totally incorrect.
You are so silly, the man wrote to the Minister in Oct 2006, I repeat to you for the uptient time Oct 2006.
You are trying to be a devils advocate but you better be careful.
You can find out what Mr. Mrrell owns and see if you can get the lease calculated I am more than sure you are not even going to get to 10,000 dollars a month.
If we were not in a virtual room I would bet you one hard cuff in your face and I hope when I give it to you it knock you senses back into position.
rejoice // December 5, 2007 at 4:01 PM
Anonymous:
I know very intimately that as it relates to any wrong doing Mr. Mascoll is clear.
This is all about political gain and I am very disappointed as I do believe that the opposition should be telling me how there are going to do things better and a sensible path to do so.
Do you have any idea how this all started if you knew you would not join in this whole fiasco.
Wishing in Vain // December 5, 2007 at 4:04 PM
If you are it makes no difference to me, the facts remain the facts and the truth the truth.
In your case if the truth were to slap you in the face you would not know it you are as warped as they come.
Accept that you made an error in judgment and take your sentence and move on to try to defend your dishonest actions is to fight a loosing battle.
The public will have the chance to judge you shortly and that they will do.
Is there any truth to the story that you have been banned from going into 8 ball shop??
I heard the other day that your behaviour was so disgraceful that you were asked to leave and not to return?
Wishing in Vain // December 5, 2007 at 4:07 PM
Sadly nothing like you can lie to me and really expect me to swallow your tripe.
Floyd // December 5, 2007 at 4:08 PM
well rejoice lets agree to disagree. we clearly have a different sense of minsterial responsibility. I admire your tenacity and style of argument though.
I am curious that the role of the speaker of the house has attracted so little comment. I interact with a lot of young people and in discussions today they are struggling to understand how the speaker could have agreed to suspend the debate yesterday.
The studets are young and not as cynical as old boy like me, who are already in the departure lounge waiting to check out, but I think a few of them lost faith in parliament yesterday.
The students viewed the speaker as something of a refereeand that image was seriously tarnished by the speaker’s ruling and comments abut the opposition leader. These views persisted desite Mottley’s arguments on tv last night.
rejoice // December 5, 2007 at 4:08 PM
Have a nice evening gentlemen. BTW, IN VAIN……If I was Clyde Mascoll I would bring a no-confidence motion against myself for spending all day with such a quack. Have a nice night buddy…lol
Rene // December 5, 2007 at 4:13 PM
If every time a minister left his post because a civil servant or private company that they may have vouch for did something wrong or made a mistake we wouldn’t be able to keep up with who’s holding the post on any present day. Also when one talks about CEO, GM, board of directors having to take blame in the international business arena you forget to mention that in some case these people are giving salary payouts for they services and have other options in their field. I’m yet to know any political person in history to resign over accusation that can’t be proven legally. Will have to wait and see how this plays out over the next few weeks.
Now it’s clear to most that Mascoll had a hand in helping Hardwood along the way with funding and projects but I personal don’t think he is in any way a shareholder of the company or would have been following up on the daily running of the company and its finances. Also this kind of interaction is neither new by either government and they are over companies in various arenas out there that have had this kind of help in past. As to if these other companies waste their opportunity or make a beneficial contribution I don’t know.
Now we seen this all before played out when the DLP was in power with regards to MP Branford Taitt and we know how the vote will go. It is really up to the people come election time to have their say how they feel about Mr Mascoll until then this move is just going to be talk between DLP & BLP with BLP winning the vote to in parliament on this matter. We get so heated on these matters and tend to forget that in some cases these ministers are family, old friends and professional associates and smile and chat with each other after they just lambasting one another on a platform.
My personal view is most of the BLP doesn’t care to much for Mascoll but will back him for the party and let the electorate deal with him. The postponement is perfectly legal and in the mind of lawyer once the law is followed it is perfectly in their right to make and grant such a request. Please don’t forget the sitting of parliament is about laws and protocol and the players in it. As for the players bringing this Hardwood situation to light they are doing so for their own gains not for the benefit of the Barbadian public.
On a side note I remember a particular insurance company that had several middle and high end housing development projects approved while the DLP was in power.
Wishing in Vain // December 5, 2007 at 4:14 PM
Anonymous: typical of owing ASSCOLL and company they rob you and then proceed to take the shafting or leave it so very considerate of them.
The evidence is stacked against ASSCOLL and the best means of defence is to swipe at everyone that chooses to say someting that is anti ASSCOLL let me tell them that represents nearly have of the Barbadian population so your task is mighty.
rejoice // December 5, 2007 at 4:16 PM
Floyd
I do believe that the ruling party played right into Thompson hand there.
Now the speaker was very correct in what he did, but we have a sympathetic society so I thought the ruling party err.
In all fairness however, Thompson had a whole day given to him to do his thing, then left everyone waiting yesterday to see if he would come. He was dictating our listening ears. I still honestly feel that he should have been accommodated
IN VAIN:
Long time i heard about the 8 ball behaviour and believe the Minister was totally out of place and should be man enough to go there and apologise.
Wishing in Vain // December 5, 2007 at 4:24 PM
Floyd The Speakers chair was corrupted for some while now none moreso the last time they discussed the motion of No Confidence when the speaker in an effort to support his party entered in a ramble about a 12 day waiting period for motions such as this when he knew full well that no such rule applied to Barbados this was dishonesty at its height, then we had yesterday when mottley browbeat the speaker into submission with fear, she is an uncouth bully (usually reserved for describing men) the honesty of the House was disrupted yesterday in no small measure.
The Debate on the No Confidence motion had every right to continue on to its final conclusion once it was started it is an abuse of power with a majority as they have but they ought to be balance and honest in their actions.
Wow this is me calling for honesty in the blp that is asking too much.
Floyd // December 5, 2007 at 4:40 PM
I am sure the speaker was within his rights to make the ruling he did, and that it was legally correct.
It is one thing be right its another to do the right thing. In a a lot of peoples minds his ruling certain dispelled any pretensions to be a neutral referee. One gets the feeling that this was what the government wanted and there was no way he would not give it to them.
I don’t think this was good for the image of parliament. In a sense once he bowed to government power in that way, the other side had little choice but to use their rabble power of walking out.
Rene // December 5, 2007 at 4:56 PM
If this was done in a court of law the DLP member that walked out would be in jail right now. One must remember parliament has there to help debate and pass the laws of the land and its member should act in the appropriate manner at all time. The speaker was only doing his job.
Jerome Hinds // December 5, 2007 at 4:56 PM
Mr Mascoll in his passion may have quoted sites rather than associates who Mr. Murrel worked with. Samaritans(First)purse is an international organisation doing missions the world over, there is documented prove of his association with them in Grenada( and the criminal calling herself a pastor)giving Thompson the information knows this).
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REJOICE,
With such a pathetic response…….you really have nothing to REJOICE about !
ASSCOLL repeated several times in the House of Assembly yesterday…….that he had prepared well for the No – Confidence Debate !
So an idiot like want to convince Barbadians that ASSCOLL would have prepared so well to site websites that show no link to Murrell ?
Furthermore, Liz Thompson repeated the sites in her contribution as PROOF !
Just like in the press conference he called with his wife…….ASSCOLL said whether ” Murrell built 500 houses or not is nether here nor there ” !
But here is a question for an IDIOT like you……how come with no money Murrell is ALLEGED to have built 500 houses in Grenada in 3 months…….But with $ 2 million in Barbados…..only 15 houses according to ASSCOLL were built and REMAINS in the factory after 1 WHOLE year…????????
Wishing in Vain // December 5, 2007 at 5:03 PM
RENE you are out of place to make that comment, opposition members from around the world use this measure as a protest measure for many years.
I am left to belief that for you to make the comment as you have it was either made out of stupity or your effort to score a unworthy political point which ever one it was it was wasted.
Wishing in Vain // December 5, 2007 at 5:06 PM
Murrell is ALLEGED to have built 500 houses in Grenada in 3 months…….But with $ 2 million in Barbados…..only 15 houses according to ASSCOLL were built and REMAINS in the factory after 1 WHOLE year…????????
SPIN SPIN SPIN SPIN AND MORE SPIN
The yorker has pegged back the centre stump and they are running around like chickens without their heads.
Leviticus // December 5, 2007 at 5:28 PM
I have to call it as I see it:
Rejoice, where have you now surfaced from to defend Mascoll. This Hardwood thing has been around for six weeks and, because Thompson scored heavily with the facts, you are now available to defend Mascoll. Sounds fishy to me. Where were you before?
The thing is that I agree with Adrian. David Thompson hit the government, not Mascoll only, very very hard. He has created a public outcry on the call-in programmes and otherwise. And the BLP compounded it with Mia’s ineptitude, the Speakers partiality and Liz Thompsons venom and irrelevance.
Mascoll has been wounded and Thompson scored well with a reasoned and uncontradicted analysis. He brought Mascoll into politics and he is taking him out.
Then, a united opposition walked out which is an indication of Thompson’s strong leadership. Kudos again.
If Owen Arthur keeps Mascoll it will send a completely wrong signal to the country. Mascoll needed to say, “I was hasty, I was wrong, I apologise,” and move on. Perhaps he would get some sympathy.
But Thompson delivered a devastating prosecution. And the defences, such as they were, were extremely weak!
Rejoice, unfortunately, its too late. You all played your hands very badly.
Adrian Hinds // December 5, 2007 at 5:31 PM
The mother of all elections indeed. If public perception of Mascolls sours, and it effects the perception of the BLP candidates in terms of thier chances at the poll, and given my believe that Mascoll’s arrival in Roebuck street wasn’t with open arms from all, how will any negative fall out from this Hardwood scandal effect Owen and his continued leadership of the BLP? After all he brought Mascoll in, and if Mascoll is now to be perceive as a problem for the entire party, then Owen must be at fault. All of this has long term positive effect for Mia so maybe Owen is wondering if it was a good thing to have patch up with her. Were these recent blunders of hers genuine mistakes? It certainly isn’t characteristic of her he must be saying, But what choice did he have anyway? People knew all was not well between these two so he had to put plaster to cut too hide de wound.
……I expect the BLP to keep quiet on last tuesday’s events, spend some more treasure to buy loyalty votes from when the no confidenc motion reconvenes just to ensure that no known cracks in unity appears, as this is the one thing that seperates them out from the DLP. But what Thompson do now that he has stormed out of the house? will he return?
Rene // December 5, 2007 at 5:33 PM
Wishing in Vain // December 5, 2007 at 5:03 pm
RENE you are out of place to make that comment, opposition members from around the world use this measure as a protest measure for many years.
I am left to belief that for you to make the comment as you have it was either made out of stupity or your effort to score a unworthy political point which ever one it was it was wasted.
reply:
I’m not here to score points nor am I suggesting that anyone should be arrested. In my stupidity I was just saying in the judicial setting such would have happen if X behaviour was displayed in the court of law. In the political setting the system is very similar but is governed by its own rules and laws; none were broken but to some they may have been disrespected by certain members actions.
MASSIE // December 5, 2007 at 5:36 PM
Jerome hinds,
You are mixing up issues, in a recovery programme after Hurricane Ivan, Land and supplies would not have been an issue for MR. Murrell……….how silly can you get!
MASSIE // December 5, 2007 at 5:50 PM
Thompson says he wants to debate his own motion in his own time…..he really must feel he owns parliament. Whatr a stupid man, egotistical human being. No respect for our systems. If he has facts…next tuesday is sufficient to finish the debate. Not find an excuse to back out which the govt erred in facilitating. Thompson is clever in a wicked way. Unfortunately the dumb bees could not see his guile. i give him full marks for being a snake, and the govt a failing grade for being easily fooled.
frankology // December 5, 2007 at 5:52 PM
Adrian. Up to Monday when I check on the Order Paper, no mention was made of the propose no-confidence motion, but at the last minute we heard that it was on, the rest is history.
I would like these questions answerd.
Was Thompson pushed?
Was a change made to the standing order?
What will be the procedure for an No-confidence motion in the future?
I await these answers, in order for we the public, understand our Parliamentary System.
rejoice // December 5, 2007 at 6:01 PM
Leviticus
Call it what you may my friend, at the end of the day I know what is the truth concerning HHF and I know what is a lie.
I would like you to stop going on about this thing about facts, what are the facts?
Please tell me where Thompson scored, if you are an honest individual you would do yourself a favour and seek the facts for yourself and not just sit there and swallow everything you hear coming from Mr. Thompson mouth.
frankology // December 5, 2007 at 6:01 PM
Just corrections to the above post.
Adrian. Up to Monday when I check on the Order Paper, no mention was made of the propose no-confidence motion, but at the last minute we heard that it was on, the rest is history.
I would like these questions answered.
Was Thompson pushed?
Was a change made to the standing order?
What will be the procedure for a No-confidence motion in the future?
I await these answers, in order for we the public, understand our Parliamentary System.
rejoice // December 5, 2007 at 6:04 PM
Jerome you are absolutely correct, I think that Mr. Mascoll should have followed his notes more closely and not make such a stupid error.
There is so much more evidence to show that Mr. Murrell was in Grenada and did indeed build houses there, more so the evidence is right here in Barbados.
It was a bad error and yes, repeated by Liz.
frankology // December 5, 2007 at 6:06 PM
I am not hearing any comment about the lady and the salary increase from $4,000.00 to $11,000.00. Do you feel that this whole episode exploded because the lady was refused an increase.
Is this the same lady that we are hearing of being molested?
We must look at the fundamental issues before any finger pointing.
rejoice // December 5, 2007 at 6:15 PM
Jerome, don’t be such a do-do.
In Grenada there were plenty of relief organisations with Millions of dollars, Mr Murrell was a volunteer worker, yes I said volunteer, the villian you guys are trying to paint was a volunteer.
Over 20 houses have been built so far, I don’t know how many frames are pre-built at sitting in the factory.
rejoice // December 5, 2007 at 6:28 PM
Frankology
You are right on the ball, I told these dlpites here that they should at least try to find out the truth.
I know if the whole truth about this whole thing was to break they would hang their heads in shame.
anonymous // December 5, 2007 at 6:49 PM
rejoice
Why then doesnt Mascoll reply to Thompson charges and stop playing the helping poor black man routine. By his failure to deny the serious charges Mascoll admits everything Thompson said is true especially when he (Mascoll) laments about the missing file. Whistle blowers have saved many democracies from dictatorship remember Deep Throat. With the ready answers you have Mascoll is either an idiot or you are big time liar.
to the point // December 5, 2007 at 7:25 PM
Rejoice,
you are truly amazing but also good. You really can see no wrong in anything that mascoll did – Brilliant.That is precisely why governance in Barbados will continue to get worse. When ministers misrepresent facts, and persistently continue to do so even in the face evidence to the contrary and then get people such as yourself to justify it they must feel they can do anything and get away with it.
Let me tell you i was in Grenada working for one of the regional deveopment agencies coordinating work with both local, regional and international groups. At no time then or since have i heard or indeed did i see or know of any organisation, regional, local, international, government or private that built 500 houses in six months. That is simply not the case. You mascoll, murrell, thompson, nobody can produce that evidence cause it is simply not true. Are you aware of what Grenada was like after that hurrican hit. It was total confusion. People could not get supplies into the country as the port was disfunctional for weeks even months. Local supplies were grossly inadequate to deal with local demand. Workmen and equipment were scarce causing many projects to be held up even as roads particularly into the country side remained blocked and in accessible.. My own organisation which oversaw a 500.000 pound house repair and building project with local and imported and brand new equipment from Miami took close to 10 months to get 80 houses built and 70 more repaid.
So naturally hearing all the debate about these 500 houses in six months i asked my local contacts about it when i was there last weekend again and their response was “are still asking about that foolishness, you behave as though you were not living here during that periods. Where are those houses?”
So when i hear people keep making this comment and repeating it as fact even I have to question my own certain knowledge having been there that in fact these houses were built. The truth is that i know better but still i find it anazing that you guys could keep trying to make fiction reality. Once again for the record no one, no organisation, no government department, no one can claim to have built 500 houses in grenada in that period it is simply impossible.
Jerome Hinds // December 5, 2007 at 7:42 PM
MASSIE // December 5, 2007 at 5:36 pm
Jerome hinds,
You are mixing up issues, in a recovery programme after Hurricane Ivan, Land and supplies would not have been an issue for MR. Murrell……….how silly can you get!
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MASSIE,
Thank you for taking the BAIT……I set for you !
In Barbados there was no HURRICANE or RECOVERY programme…..but in a mere 9 DAYS……Owen Arthur ( who is responsible for Town & Country planning permission ) changed ZONE 1 lands to ZONE 2 ……!
You and other BARBADIANS……will soon see the $ 750,000.00 CHEQUE !
So do you believe that RIGHT – THINKING BARBADIANS believe Owen Arthur & ASSCOLL when they now seek to tell us the following :
** HARDWOOD HOUSING Inc. was to provide low income houses…….but there was no land ….!
***** Where was the 9 day HASTE to deal with a housing matter ?
++++++ HARDWOOD HOUSING Inc. was to provide low income houses……..but ended up with UNTENDERED contracts to build Sport Pavilions….!
++++ Where was the 9 day HASTE to deal with a housing matter ?
But MASSIE you know what…..??????
Wait until the public see…..you MASSIE
( which is really Clyde ASSCOLL’S ) reply to those letters appearing in the Nation News of 2007 – 12 – 05 ….!
Stay tuned……..MASSIE !
The real EARTH TREMOR…….is coming !
lighthearted // December 5, 2007 at 7:44 PM
Oh dear here we go again. The bees just refusing to face reality even when it slap them in the face. Mascoll has his paws all over hardwood and he clearly exercised poor judgement and exceeded his repsonsibility. Not only has he repeatedly misled the public about how much houses the man built but from the letters printed in the Nation to day it is clear for all to see that he acted very inappropriately in this process.
If we excuse mascolls “hiring” of people to go sek out lumber for the project and his direct contact with companies supplying such then we are clerly saying to all ministers that it is ok to do this. So that Glyne Clarke for example would be withiin his right to be “hiring” people to go look for lights for the new ABC highway and then be relating directtly with potential suppliers about orders, and how much and when they can be sent.
This is extremely dangerous stuff that we are trying to defend here.
Secondly, if according to the BLP it was inappropriate for Branford Taitt to have a contractor that was working on St. Joseph Hospital working at his home at the same time how comes it is right mascoll to have mr. murrell working at his wife’s property. What is good for the goose must be good for the gander?
The BLPites should try and face reality. Mascoll fouled up on this one he exercised very poor judgement and regards of what the motives were he is wrong and should resign from office or be removed. Owen Arthur fired ministers for far less than this so its up to him now. One thing they cant say thompson did not bring the evidence.
rejoice // December 5, 2007 at 7:51 PM
To The Point
Can I lead to an article published in the Daily Nation were miss wicked was the first person to say that 500 houses were built. Do a search on http://www.nationnews.com for the keywords ‘carrying out the promise’ you would see the CEO of Operation Mobilisation making that statement (btw, that is Thompsons source)
Now….where in any of my post have you seen me make mention of the 500 houses as a true statement.
I made it abundantly clear that the proposal for financing by EGFL had nothing to do with 500 being built in Grenada.
I still ask, what did Clyde Mascoll do wrong. He knew nothing about the 500 houses when he took admiration to Mr. Murrell, I was present at Ashdeane, Black Rock, Barbados when Mr. Mascoll express his admiration for the man. The man was so humble he refused to take the limelight.
Also my friend, even before the Hardwood Housing was this man not given a Dame Olga Award for his contribution to housing in Barbados.
Come on man please don’t join the band wagon
I myself was in Grenada after the devastation and am aware of the circumstances there.
Jerome Hinds // December 5, 2007 at 7:52 PM
rejoice // December 5, 2007 at 6:15 pm
Jerome, don’t be such a do-do.
In Grenada there were plenty of relief organisations with Millions of dollars, Mr Murrell was a volunteer worker, yes I said volunteer, the villian you guys are trying to paint was a volunteer.
Over 20 houses have been built so far, I don’t know how many frames are pre-built at sitting in the factory.
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REJOICE,
I know it is tough for you to admit the TRUTH on this one !
But CLYDE ASSCOLL was the only person in Barbados who ( in his letter to the Leader of the opposition )……said that HARDWOOD HOUSING Inc. only built 15 houses that were laid up in the factory because there was no land to be found !
Go and read ASSCOLL’S letter again !!!
+++ Again I ask you……since the BLP said Housing was such a serious issue in BARBADOS….why was not the BLP TOUTED…..Land Bank not tapped ?????
Barbadians…….were NOT schooled to be…..FOOLED !!!!!
When you yuh ready tuh RING de BELL……!!!!
rejoice // December 5, 2007 at 7:55 PM
Jerome Hinds and other commentators, I have to hand it to you all.
My trying to defend these BLP crooks have made to look and sound like a complete ASS.
I gine encourage wunnah to vote the BLP out of office.
Unlike Mascoll I aplogise for my previous mouthings on this issue.
I am sorry.
rejoice // December 5, 2007 at 7:59 PM
Light hearted are you a clown, can you not see the diffeence between Mr. mascoll and the letter that was paraded today and the comparisons that you made.
AT THE TIME OF THE LETTER HARDWOODHOUSING WAS NOT YET INCORPORATED, IT HAD NOT GOTTEN ANY FINANCING FROM EGFL NOR DID IT HAVE A PROPOSALS TO EGFL FOR FINANCING.
Glyne Clarke is the Minister of a project being financed by Goveernment, Branford Taitt was the minister of a project being financed by government.
Man stop being a ^%%^
rejoice // December 5, 2007 at 8:01 PM
I would appreciate it if we are going to have a blog here that person don’t use my name to post such.
Jerome Hinds and other commentators, I have to hand it to you all.
My trying to defend these BLP crooks have made to look and sound like a complete ASS.
I gine encourage wunnah to vote the BLP out of office.
Unlike Mascoll I aplogise for my previous mouthings on this issue.
I am sorry.
If you guys want me to stop posting then just say so, then again that is typical DLPite folly
lighthearted // December 5, 2007 at 8:10 PM
i am not the clown rejoice but you very well might be. Whether the company was up and running or not no minister should be contacting suppliers to supply anything. moreover he should not be hiring people to go look into sourcing anything either. are they not civil servants in that ministry. what about the PS, the deputy, the admin officers. why did mascoll have to be invloved in any of this? except that he had a special interest in this affair. That is not the job of a minister because it leaves one to wonder what else he was invloved with. If you cant see the inappropriateness of such befaviour then something is clearly wrong with you
Jerome Hinds // December 5, 2007 at 8:15 PM
REJOICE,
Confession is good for the SOUL !
Wishing in Vain // December 5, 2007 at 8:47 PM
rejoice Mr Thompson scored in showing the public what liar , a thief and just how dishonest you are ASSCOLL.
Frankology Anti-Thesis // December 5, 2007 at 8:54 PM
Frankology you are a parrot. You are not tired yet? Look try and come with something useful man. You are seriously stressing me.
Floyd // December 5, 2007 at 8:58 PM
Rene should recognise that parliament is not a court. we tend to get very legalistic in debates in bim.
the postponement of the hardwood debate was a powerplay by motley plain and simple. thompson had flexed his power by saying its a private members bill i can debate it when i want. he was probably legally right but he was paying a political price for it. Mottley responded yesterday with herb own power play. I control the order paper and the speaker i control how and when this debate happens. she and the speaker are paying a political price for stopping a debate the public was waiting to assess thompson’s credibility on. in her powerplay motley has fumbled the ball and shifted the burden of proof off thompson. she is not teh sure political hand she is often presented as.
rene can talk law as much as she wants at the end of the day this is about power and politics.
Wishing in Vain // December 5, 2007 at 9:32 PM
rejoice from your comments and your reports you seem to here there and everywhereASSCOLL has been seems more than strange to me it would suggest that you are either a compulsive liar or ASSCOLL reincarnated .
Why do you persist in you attempt tp defend something that cannot be defended, your judgment was flawed and you set out to rape the taxpayers once again I say own up life may get easier for you scum.
Wishing in Vain // December 5, 2007 at 10:19 PM
Adrian Have you voted as yet on the poll on this site ? I am seriouly surprised that he got a single vote in Muscle Marys favour he has done well at least he has 1 so called friend.
David // December 5, 2007 at 10:21 PM
We read the all the comments and the reality is that politics is abouts impressions/perceptions. Whether we believe that Mascoll has committed gross misjudgments or not his political stocks have plummeted. Prime Minister Arthur will have to do a Houdini to same Mascoll. What makes this a challenge is the proximity to General Elections.
What we should remember is if the credibility of Mascoll is proved to be questionable then it begs the question how should the public view his pronouncement on the flyover project.
Observing // December 5, 2007 at 10:22 PM
Rejoice, your response to 11 out of my 14 questions was “what does this have to do with Mascoll”
Mascoll facilitated the establishment of the company. Mascoll was the “voice of government in the media regarding the company and the iniative. Mascoll responded to Thompson’s letter to the Prime Minister for an investigation (not Owen). Mascoll used a track record of 500 houses to promote Murrell to Barbadians. Mascoll’s wife had Hardwood workers working for her. Mascoll stated that Hardwood was a government owned company “by extension thru EGFL”. Mascoll was directly involved in an initial effort to source wood from Guyana for the Hardwood Housing project. Mascoll was allegedly aware of some of the wrongdoings at Hardwood. Mascoll stated that a tender process was carried out for the pavilions that Hardwood built / is building. MASCOLL HAS DEFENDED HARDWOOD AND MURRELL.
If sh## happens at Hardwood then Mascoll should be the first to respond, investigate, make wrong things right or at least inform the public, after all, it’s our money. He has done none of the above and far from that, he has defended Hardwood and Murrel, stated he has done nothing wrong, and is unable to dispute any of the allegations raised (then again, no one has).
With great power comes great responsibility.
Mascoll assumed the power, he failed horiibly at the responsibilty. For his refusal to at least admit that, he should be held accountable.
As for the defense that a disgruntled employee is the cause of all of this… who cares. Dispute her facts and the evidence presented. She’ll then be seen for the lying caniving and opportunistic woman that she just may be. Until that happens, the presented evidence speaks for itself. Motive for this action may be wrong, but the issues that it has revealed has highlighted an even greater wrong.
And by the way. Mascoll has shown himself to either be a liar or an ignorant Minister, none of which are good.
And for the record, there was a point in time I liked Mascoll, was impressed by his talent and knowledge and believed he was unfaired by some within the DLP. His statements and actions since then have led to a huge reversal in my thinking.
Brutus // December 5, 2007 at 10:30 PM
Small man, BIG plans
Date March 25, 2007 (Nation News)
Brief Small man, BIG plans
by MELISSA WICKHAM
ANTHONY MURRELL is a revolutionary.
He is boldly going where no other person in Barbados has ventured before, providing affordable housing at a record pace to thousands of frustrated Barbadians who have spent years on long waiting lists.
He is the brainchild behind the Hardwood Housing Factory Inc., in Six Roads Industrial Park, St Philip, and is a small man with a big mission on his mind.
“I want that in five years time the word ‘poverty’ would be out of Barbados at the housing level, so that the rest of the Caribbean could look at Barbados as a model,” he told the SUNDAY SUN during an interview last week.
The factory is producing hardwood houses at a fraction of the cost and time it would normally take to construct the one-to three-bedroom starter houses. Murrell promises to deliver them in four to six weeks.
And these aren’t empty promises. So far his company has built six houses in the Carrying Out The Promise programme in the space of four months, recently handed over two houses in New Orleans, The City, and is in the process of completing five more.
The response has been positive so far since the factory officially opened on February 14. Everyone from the person who wants a one-bedroom house to those who want beachfront homes have been approaching the business.
But Murrell, a carpenter and joiner by profession, makes it clear that his main focus is the low-income earner.
“I’m not about money. I’m about people. My concern is the little old lady down the hill, and the fellow down the road who lives in a house with his girlfriend that’s falling down. Those are the people I want,” he said.
It is a dream come true not only for Barbadians looking for affordable housing but also for 42-year-old Murrell who carried around the idea in his head for six years like an embryo before it was finally birthed.
Unfortunately, it took a natural disaster to bring it forth. After Hurricane Ivan devastated Grenada back in September 2004, Murrell went into the island as part of Operation Mobilisation.
There was a need to provide fast, affordable houses for those who were displaced and that was when he pitched his idea.
“When we saw the dire need, I said this is what I was thinking of and it actually worked,” he said.
They mass-produced 600 14′x16′ starter houses and not only gave Grenadians shelter, but hope.
When he returned to Barbados, he worked first as the technical co-ordinator with Carrying Out The Promise, an initiative which provided houses for Barbadians in desperate need of housing, and was later promoted to director.
Murrell recalls being given $100 000 by a financial institution to construct a three-bedroom home but ended up building two two-bedrooms and a one-bedroom on the same budget.
The explanation was quite simple. They took certain high-cost components out of the equation, such as labour and time.
The factory is set up like an assembly line where certain parts of the houses are put together by some 25 employees where entire housing panels are assembled, then taken to the paint room where they are painted according to the client’s preference.
Another 35 or so employees – masons, electricians, plumbers, steel benders and welders – work onsite to bring it all to completion. Although the houses are mass-produced, it doesn’t mean quality is sacrificed.
Murrell said because they were affordable – a one-bedroom, one-bathroom 420-square foot house can go for $38 000, a two-bedroom 520-square foot house for $48 000 and a three-bedroom 700-square foot house for $56 000 – doesn’t mean they’re cheap.
The structures are made from Grade A purpleheart wood from Guyana, and are strong enough to withstand hurricanes.
“What people want to know is, ‘Is he for real?’ But it is as good as it sounds. It is a dream because it is making people’s dreams come true. It is what I dreamt about and it has come to reality. We are here to stay,” he said.
But the dream almost didn’t happen for Murrell.
Except for a select few, most financial institutions didn’t immediately latch on to his vision.
“Yes, we had difficulty translating the dream from my head to the financial institutions and up to now, I don’t think some of them understood the concept. It is hard as a young entrepreneur in Barbados to sell ideas. We were told that other black businessmen set up and closed down,” he added.
Another obstacle was he didn’t have a string of qualifications behind his name. Some people thought he didn’t have what it took to run the company.
“A lot of people in this country would scoff at the idea of a carpenter at the helm of this company. People may ask what qualifications I have – what BAs and MAs to say I am smart enough to do this.
“There are a lot of very talented people in Barbados who never went to any university but they have a natural gift to think on their feet and to convert thoughts into action. And that is something that is not appreciated. Getting over that hurdle was the hardest thing.
“The respect that is due tradesmen in Barbados is lacking. We’ve having engineers who come into our factory and marvel at the engineering that went into it. That is indeed a blessing. Every aspect of this workshop came out of here,” he said, pointing to his head.
Murrell said carpenters were some of the greatest mathematicians around “because how can you calculate all the different measurements required to build a house without being a mathematician?”.
He was grateful to one person in particular, who gave his company the push it needed.
“After seeing the way we worked, Mr Clyde Mascoll suggested that we present it as a suitable alternative to what exists.
“I thank him because he saw the potential we had and put the Government’s interests with that and now we have a partnership with the Government,” he explained.
Now the company has a full plate partnering with the National Housing Corporation, the Urban Development Commission, the Ministry of Education as well as BARVEN. However, Murrell emphasised that their mission would not be compromised even with a bigger client base.
“We will meet our four-to six-week deadline or die trying,” he said.
Wishing in Vain // December 5, 2007 at 10:32 PM
And by extension Observing Owing close association with him is also very damaging to the already damaged reputation of the blp we remember the cheque, the baths, Greenland, Rural, the Newton unfinished building, HARDWOOD HOUSING SCANDAL, theVECO scam the PRISON, the DANOS 3S BARBADOS KICKBACK AGREEMENT for the ABC highway.there is so much to question and ASSCOLL actions and those of Mr See Thru only add to the already burning fire.
Brutus // December 5, 2007 at 10:39 PM
17 000 house hunters
Date February 15, 2007 (Nation News)
Brief 17 000 house hunters
by CAROL-ANN TUDOR
THERE ARE 17 000 applications at the National Housing Corporation (NHC) from people seeking both land and houses.
Minister of Housing and Lands Reginald Farley made the disclosure yesterday at the launch of the Hardwood Housing Factory Inc. at Six Roads Industrial Park, St Philip.
The number of people on the NHC’s database dramatically increased following the launch of its primary homes programme in September 2004. About 5 000 people had applied for houses under that project.
However, NHC general manager Vincent Alleyne said yesterday the database might be in need of a purge, since a number of people had subsequently made their own arrangements. He did not say how many.
Farley, who welcomed the new innovative enterprise to the housing sector, said he “looked forward to a long and mutually beneficial relationship between the Ministry of Housing and Lands and the Hardwood Housing Factory Inc”.
Preferred
In fact, the minister said he had already directed the NHC to consider this company as one of its preferred suppliers of hardwood houses, adding that Government would be using this product in several of its upcoming developments.
The houses, which range from one-bedroom at 420 square feet to three-bedroom at 700 square feet, are valued between $38 000 and $56 000 for the standard house and can be completed in a month’s time.
The factory, headed by chief executive officer Anthony Murrell, operates under the theme Labour Of Love For God and Country. It has been granted a $1 million loan from the Enterprise Growth Fund.
To date it has completed three houses under the Carrying Out The Promise programme with the help of Barbados National Bank. Another seven are to be rebuilt in Emmerton, the City, from next week. The ones they are replacing were demolished last week.
Farley noted the NHC had supplied the technical and market information which was used in preparing the business plan for this enterprise. He said it was an effort to address three critical issues in housing – affordability, speed of construction and vulnerability to disasters.
On September 5 last year, Minister of State in the Ministry of Finance Clyde Mascoll announced the project, indicating it would have been launched by year-end.
Noting that carpenters would not even be needed at the plant, Mascoll said then the project would be technology-centred. He said Government would train people to use the machinery at the plant and to assemble the houses.
Brutus // December 5, 2007 at 10:41 PM
House project to help in poverty fight
Date July 06, 2006 (Nation News)
Brief House project to help in poverty fight
by TREVOR YEARWOOD
SIXTY NEEDY Barbadian families are in line for assistance – some for new or renovated homes – under a poverty-fighting initiative involving the “book ship” people and the new office headed by former Minister of Social Transformation Hamilton Lashley.
A number of elderly people, some of them blind, as well as single mothers of large households will benefit from the exercise called Carrying Out The Promise.
Home building and repair, debushing, counselling of families and provision of foodstuff and other items are part of the programme involving the office of Government’s special advisor on the Millennium Development Goals (MDGs), Lashley, and Operation Mobilisation, the international mercy agency known for its “book ships” such as the Logos II that left Barbados last month.
Eight homes selected by social agencies such as the National Assistance Board are earmarked for rebuilding, according to projects officer with the MDGs office, Denise Tannis.
Director of the Operation Mobilisation Barbados office, Carol Phillips, said the homes were in a state of heavy disrepair.
“It’s a disgrace that in Barbados some people live in such homes,” she added. “This is not something you should be able to find in Barbados.”
Operation Mobilisation is flying 64 Logos volunteers, representing as many as 15 nations, to Barbados to work with about 14 local contractors who have so far offered their labour free of cost.
The project is expected to start in earnest next Tuesday, with the first phase to end after a month.
“But when the Logos volunteers leave, we are hoping that (the project) will be sustained by the Barbadian public,” Tannis said.
Phillips said the project was in keeping with work Operation Mobilisation had done over the years, including home-building in the aftermath of the devastation of Grenada by Hurricane Ivan.
“After Hurricane Ivan . . . we built well over 500 houses. We covered over 600 roofs,” she reported.
Lashley said the private sector had been responding well to calls to provide building and other materials for the project, but other businesses needed to “come on board”.
Wishing in Vain // December 5, 2007 at 10:50 PM
Based on the note above we are advised that as many as 17,000 persons were awaiting homes and we also now know that HARDWOOD HOUSING built 3 houses and amazingly a HARDWOOD HOUSE would not even require carpenters to build these houses, it certainly appears not to require carpenters because they have failed to deliver on a housing program, it appears that they need accountants to assist in distributing the spoils of the $ 2 million gift given to ASSCOLL to play with.
Excuse my madness but with 17,000 persons waiting on homes one would believe that this would be an excellent opening to move plenty of these houses to Barbadian public and with him being able to deliver at the rate of 5 1/2 houses per day this problem should have been wiped out in a matter of days.
Oh please I just awoke from a lovely snooze I must have been dreaming , was I?
Adrian Loveridge // December 6, 2007 at 5:46 AM
‘We have about 440 lots in prospect and by this time next year or target is to build 400 houses’.
9 July 2007
He (Anthony Murrell) told the Daily Nation ‘the company had acquired several acres of land in Christ Church and St. Peter’.
9 July 2007
‘Murrell said Hardwood Housing was all about speedy construction and affordable housing’
‘WAS ALL ABOUT ‘ ‘AFFORDABLE HOUSING’
Not building Government Pavillions Mr
Murrell?
‘We don’t think a person should be waiting for a house for year’ he added.
‘Three months should be the longest period, and that includes taking care of the legal and other paperwork from raw land to finished house’.
9 July 2007
‘Anthony Murrell is a revolutionary’
‘He is boldly going where no other person in Barbados has ventured before, providing affordable housing at a record pace to thousands of frustrated Barbadians who have spent years in long wating lists’.
25 March 2007 – Daily Nation
‘They (Operation Mobilisation) mass-produced 400 – 14′ x 16′ starter houses and not only gave Grenadians shelter but hope’.
‘We will meet our four-to-six week deadline or die trying’ he (Murrell) said’.
25 March 2007
Melissa Wickham – Daily Nation
A litany of lies.
Leviticus // December 6, 2007 at 6:26 AM
Rejoice et al, (not Frankology because his brain is a confused open sepulchre) I want to say this simply:
David Thompson has a chance to wind up this debate. The BLP has to be extremely worried for a number of reasons:
1. All Thompson has to do if the debate gets nastier is repeat all the things the BLP have said about Mascoll i.e. that he stole Credit Union money, bought votes in the 2003 election, shoplifted, breached Town Planning rules when re-building his house, treated his mother badly etc. The irony is that Mascoll is defending himself against the things the BLP – not Thompson – have said about him for 10 years!
Or,
2. Liz Thompson stupidly opened up the debate to include references to CLICO and you will remember what happened the last time that happened in the Budget reply. Now Thompson can use the occasion of a national audience to finish the job. He can also wait.
Or,
3. Thompson can opt to ignore the debate and stay away on the basis that Roett will not facilitate an honest and fair exercise. He has good grounds and public perception is very much on his side. This would also damage the BLP severely.
Either way, Thompson and not the BLP has all the cards and an election is imminent. He has “ended” this parliament and Roett’s career as Speaker with a bang as he promised. He has nothing to lose. Think about it.
Guys like Rejoice can defend Mascoll all the way but all Thompson has to do is repeat what his own BLP colleagues have said about him.
The problem as I see it was raised by Adrian above in a glancing way. It is that Mascoll has damaged the BLP and might very well cause them to lose the next election.
This could have serious consequences for Owen Arthur who we once thought was a master strategist but who has obviously lost his marbles. Those BLP members led by Mia will savage him and with good cause.
David // December 6, 2007 at 6:35 AM
For whatever reason this story is receiving hits off the roof, from all over the world. We can only deduce that this is one of those stories which has escaped its original boundary and as now captured the imagination of Barbadians and others alike. Where and how it will end no one knows. What we know is as this story grows so the Mascoll’s liability on the eve of a general election diminishes.
Is he expendable?
Wishing in Vain // December 6, 2007 at 6:44 AM
It certainly has caught the minds of many, my desire is to hear more about the use of the speaker by mottley in her strong arm tactic and his complying without a whimper, this must certainly come over as a severe use of power.
Also to is I would like to see more comment on ASSCOLLS comment that it is pointless to investigate him when they are more pressing things and more deserving of an investigation such in his words investigate the ABC road works project, if their has ever been a revealing piece of information this is it, it clearly alerts me that he knows that there is some amount of stealing going on with this project, who will be next?
Or when will VECO and the Prison get a closer look?
Wishing in Vain // December 6, 2007 at 6:44 AM
NO CONFIDENCE IN MASCOLL AND OWEN ARTHUR
The basis for No-Confidence Motions is well established in our parliamentary history. No-Confidence Motions were brought by the Barbados Labour Party against members of former Democratic Labour Party administrations for seemingly frivolous and vexatious reasons, but yet the right and decision of the then Opposition to table such motions, were respected and facilitated.Indeed, this Barbados Labour Party government was swept to power in the down-wind of a no-confidence motion. There have even been Motions against Speakers of the House. Motions of No-Confidence are moved against Ministers, in the main, who have exercised poor judgement, acted against the tenets of good Ministerial practice, for corrupt practices or for acts of moral turpitude and otherwise.This is therefore an important parliamentary tool to bring to the attention of the public, acts of Ministers, for which Ministers should be censured and that is what David Thompson’s resolution sought to do. No one in the DLP is interested in witch-hunts or the destruction of any small, black businessman. “But where any black businessman, or white businessman, or techni-colour businessman can use his relationship with a Minister to visit a reign of terror on young women and through his company breach our immigration laws to the detriment of small, ordinary Barbadian workers, intimidate staff – some of whom were ordinary Barbadians on their first ever job – on the strength that he got the backing of a Minister, even encourage staff members to engage in fraudulent practices and worse still if that small, black businessman is only a front for someone in high office,” said the Opposition Leader in the debate on Tuesday.It is now left to the judgment of the electorate of Barbados to determine the appropriateness of the Prime Minister’s actions in this whole Hardwood issue in not having a forensic investigation. David Thompson promised that, “any letter such as that, received by me as Prime Minister and Minister of Finance of this country, will be acted upon with despatch! And furthermore, any minister or official of a Democratic Labour Party administration discovered, after due process, to have acted in a manner as spelt out in that letter, will be censored and in the case of a minister of my Government, fired on the spot!!” This is the practice of good governance which the Democratic Labour Party pledges to the people of Barbados on its return to office. No one should cover up for any minister, whether that minister joined the DLP on his or her own free will and accord, or was purchased through inducements. Hardwood cannot and will not be resolved on the floor of a dying parliament. This matter cannot and will not be objectively approached and handled by Parliamentarians conscious of their political mortality. This is a matter for the people of Barbados to decide. This is a matter for the church to comment upon. This is a matter for journalists and hosts of call in programmes to ventilate and get to the bottom of.The Parliamentary Opposition has done its job.
Hard Driver // December 6, 2007 at 7:00 AM
This whole issue for me, goes a lot deeper then facts and truths.
It really has become an excellent stage for us mere mortals of the electorate to gauge the CHARACTER of our elected officials.
It leaves a lot to be desired but all in all I think Mr. Thompson and the DLP have finally come to the party as an effective opposition.
The BLP on the other hand show a crass contempt for the wishes of the people to have an honest debate on this issue.
Barbadian politics have not evolved to the stage where to admit lack of judgment and to apologize to your employers ( us the voters) and even resign is seen as the right thing to do.
Why?? Because politics in this part of the world is a ticket to the good life, to be guarded and protected to the last ounce of deception.
Wishing in Vain // December 6, 2007 at 7:10 AM
Hard Driver your comments are very well thought out and precise on the issue at hand.
Wishing in Vain // December 6, 2007 at 8:23 AM
Here is another well thought out and written article on the subject.
Visionary
December 6, 2007 at 2:03 am
Barbadians who saw and heard Clyde Mascoll were left with no doubt that the allegations in the motion of no confidence were based on fact none of which have been denied by Mascoll himself. Indeed Mr. Mascoll’s only defence is that someone stole a file from Hardwood and that this was a personal attack. What Mascoll did not say in his response is either that the Deputy Prime Minister mislead him or he did not understand her instructions on how to effectively manage a project of this nature. The public has been left with no doubt that this Hardwood issue is not a personal attack on Mascoll but an attack on Owen Arthur and his style of government. For too long government lead by Arthur have felt that they were not accoutable to Barbadians for the way they spend our hard earned tax payers dollars. Ministers now speak in hundreds of millions ($700 million for a new hospital) some Ministers even speak in Barbados dollars one day and then US dollars the next whilst not providing any evidence for the discrepancy. Barbadians have had enough. We require full disclosure from government and government ministers. Arthur and his ministers do not understand the difference between governance and government. They do not understand that you can have good governance in government. Its time for them to go and for Barbados to truly have a government who understands its responsibility to its people to act with honesty, to act with openness and to account on a timely and efficient manner for all action and entities under its management. The BLP has deliberately created hundreds of entities to facilitate its opaque style of government. The IMF recently recognised this. The DLP has been complaining for years. Hardwood is not only about Mascoll being caught, its about the end of poor governance in Barbados. Thank you David Thompson and your team.
Wishing in Vain // December 6, 2007 at 8:35 AM
Here is another well thought out and written article on the subject.
watchingand waiting
December 6, 2007 at 1:13 am
Mascoll is so pathetic ,all he does is whimper and wine .He did a really horrible job of defending himself .And as usual he evaded the issues by his personal attacks on David Thompson .He is lest than a man .David Thompson came and dealt with the issues ,not once did he use any innuendos towards Mascoll during his presentation ,but Mascoll ,use phrases like ” that man ” while using his finger pointing .Then he goes on to imply that Mr.Thompson could not be a prime minister in this here island .What a load of rubbish .David Thomson has shown over the years if not days that he has integrity and trust and direction .Mascoll on the other hand has only shown his wining and whimpering and as usual he is always seeking some kind of pity and tries to project himself as being wounded by Mr.Thompson .Get over it Mascoll grow up for piece sake .You make me sick with your griping and groining.You get no sympathy from right thinking bajans .I watched you on tv and you still have not refuted the charges laid against you. And what off these bounce checks . The checks were not bounced ,they were recalled and rescued you said .Why would a check be recalled and rescued if they were not bounced now you really got me confused . I think you were better off in the central bank , this game of politics dont fit your character ,yah put yah foot in yah mouth to often. And how can you sit with people like Romell Marshall, thee Dame ,and Owen after they made you shed tares in parliament ,telling you about your mother , how you look like Malik with no teeth etc. You got a loota guts
Peter Piper // December 6, 2007 at 8:41 AM
Liz Thompson should have kept her mouth shut in this debate. She was pathetic.
She should know about wasting taxpayers money on housing project since her then-soon-to-be-husband, who had no experience in asbestos removal was given a lucrative contract by her then Ministry (NHC) to work on Kensington Lodge. He failed with the job and then NHC had to get another contractor to do the job.
At least he was able to pay for their expensive wedding …. or perhaps it was the taxpayers who did.
Wishing in Vain // December 6, 2007 at 8:45 AM
From all reports it appears that Liz Thompson is suffering from a severe case of foot in mouth sickness..
Margaret Knight
December 6, 2007 at 8:24 am
I understand that during her Reply to the No Confidence Motion in the House, Minister Liz Thompson referred to a letter, written by me, and published in The Nation newspaper, in which I stated that I could not find my son (David Thompson). I did not hear what she said because I do not listen to ANYTHING Liz Thompson says. However, I was amazed that, with so many important issues at hand, she would be so infantile as to make mention of what was a satirical, harmless, tongue-in-cheek letter! David and I have always enjoyed teasing each other, and engaging in political banter. Most intelligent people understand this, and I know there are those on Liz Thompson’s side of the House who would. But Liz Thompson herself? Nah! She would never understand satirical humour. How about when Lowdown Richard Hoad pokes fun at his wife, or mother-in-law? Does anyone make a fuss about that? It is all part and parcel of an affectionate relationship. But would Liz Thompson understand that? Nah! Hence her purile attempt to belittle David. Sorry, Liz, it didn’t work.
rejoice // December 6, 2007 at 9:06 AM
i am not the clown rejoice but you very well might be. Whether the company was up and running or not no minister should be contacting suppliers to supply anything. moreover he should not be hiring people to go look into sourcing anything either. are they not civil servants in that ministry. what about the PS, the deputy, the admin officers. why did mascoll have to be invloved in any of this? except that he had a special interest in this affair. That is not the job of a minister because it leaves one to wonder what else he was invloved with. If you cant see the inappropriateness of such befaviour then something is clearly wrong with you
Lighthearted:
I promise myself not to respond to anything else on this board since it has no way of controlling idiots who use your name to post crap. I think it is very childish. I can swing with anyone that I want to as long as I know what I am saying is truth. I have to answer only to GOD almighty.
Let me see if I can get this into your head, Clyde Mascoll saw a talented young man who needed help with financing. Mr Mascoll, before the business was incorporated and before GOVERNMENT had any interest at all or knew anything at all about hardwood housing tried to help the gentleman to find suppliers and cost of stock. I do believe that you would understand that this was very important if one is seeking financing.
It must also be noted that at the time financing was sought after from the BNB not EGFL. Now tell me why would a PS, deputy or an admin officer have to be involved at that time when it had nothing to do with Government.
You guys are just crazy. I have time for you andAdrian Loveridge no time for the fool IN VAIN
Wishing in Vain // December 6, 2007 at 9:18 AM
You do not need to have time for me clown but I have time to debunk your nonsense, when people from within refer to you as an agent of HARDWOOD HOUSING it speaks volumes as to the level of involvement that you are seen as having, there is no way any right thinking and HONEST politician would get themselves so wraped up in a deal like this unless they were on the payroll(not in the true sense of payroll but in the sense that they were going to draw out of it)
His actions spell involvement and they spell fraud and corruption soryy ASSCOLL.
ROUND 5 TO MR THOMPSON IS THE KNOCK OUT PUNCH COMING IN THE NEXT ROUND AS I HAVE SNEEKY SUSPICION THAT WHAT IS LEFT TO COME MAYBE MORE TELL THAN WHAT HAS COME ALREADY!!!
Such Stupid Comments // December 6, 2007 at 9:20 AM
Leviticus
Or David Tom PEE and the whole DLP could resign and force 6 by elections. Now that would be strategy.
rejoice // December 6, 2007 at 9:23 AM
Observing:
U stated that you were interested in the things about CLYDE MASCOLL.
If you want facts about the disgruntle employee, make yourself known to Adrian Loveridge, I am going to make it my business this weekend to try to see him. I am going to present him the facts then you can speak with him.
I am not scared, I have spoken to stronger DLPites than you guys and laid the TRUTH on the table and saw them back pedalled and cuss their leader.
Get in close with those in parliament on your side.
Adrian L:
If you are interested in finding out if Mr. Murrell really worked with the crew in Grenanda as stated by Mr. Mascoll. Go back to the said http://www.crossroads.ca, look for renolds photo galery…then go to lehmanfamily.ca, come back with your honest opinion. I know you would.
Such Stupid Comments // December 6, 2007 at 9:28 AM
WIV could you ask Cranston Browne about those bounced cheques written while he was CEO of the DLP?
Could you asked Hartley about the sexual assualt of Jennifer Lazlo?
Could you ask TOM PEE about his involvement in the granting of concessions to CLICO?
Can you indicate the dollar value of those concessions and tell the tax payers how much money they lost?
Is the candidate for St. James South still involve in porn?
I agree with you there is more to come. and it coming soon.
Velzo // December 6, 2007 at 9:42 AM
The fact that Rejoice has to meet with Adrian to explain a matter at the eleventh hour is pathetic.
Where was this exculpatory information before? What is he going to show Adrian? The charge sheets for the two young ladies who were assaulted?
The minutes of the negotiations with the DPP Mr. Charles Leacock who acts – in a private capacity – for the owners of Four Hill Plantation? Or Sir Roy Trotman’s letter explaining that the lady Rejoice refers to was fired only after raising the matter of the sexual assaults and not because of her salary increase?
Will he explain to him why the Board replaced Murrell as CEO? The Chairman has already said that that was on the cards a long time ago… but it speaks for itself! What will Rejoice explain to you Adrian?
Let’s wait and see…
Wishing in Vain // December 6, 2007 at 10:19 AM
I think that if I had a dog I would refrain from calling it CLYDE as it would have insulted the poor animal.
Actually dogs rate so much higher in my books to the thing called ASSCOLL at least they are loyal and faithful to those around them so unlike ASSCOLL, and they sleep in the same place every night!!!
And they NEVER bite off the hand that feeds them, maybe ASSCOLL should live a dogs life and elevate himself to a higher level of thought and deeds.
rejoice // December 6, 2007 at 10:25 AM
Velzo:
You guys continue to pull me back as I can’t sit and listen to ignorance.
I said in that same message that I spoke to other DLPites before.
If you think I am at the 11th hour thats good to you.
Just in case you are not aware my friend, Mr. Murrell discussions with the DPP occured before the charges, get your facts straight.
The lady had a whole list of things that she could be fired for and she admitted it before and if she is honest would admit it again.
I heard with my own ears long before this whole fiasco, the chairman making the statement that Mr. Murrell would be responsible only for the Technical side of the business.
That lady will lead you all down a sorry path. You really don’t know the extent of her wickedness. Just do a check with all her pass associates, her husbands, sisters, mother.
Jerome Hinds // December 6, 2007 at 10:40 AM
I have already read on this page above where this BLP charlatan…..a.k.a rejoice have cussed the BLP crooks and tells all of us to get rid of these BLP crooks !
Unfortunately, for rejoice…..to get SUPPER tonight he had to ” couch ” his views !
No doubt it is part & parcel of the same METHODOLOGY that OWING used on ASSCOLL !
OWING in Parliament called ASSCOLL:
** A fowl thief !
** A political STEPNEY !
** A BRIBE TAKER !
** A BREAKER of Town & Planning Rules !
** What use I have of ASSCOLL in my
CABINET !
NOW here is the CLINCHER……now that ASSCOLL is on the coals…..OWING says he is a ” WONDERFUL ” Minister of Government !
OWING ……really means a ” wonderful fraud ” !
ASSCOLL……says OWING is a ” WONDERFUL BOSS ” !
Which put another way really means…..OWING is a STINKING Son OF a Bitch….BOSS spelt backwards !
Lol……………!
REJOICE…..about that !
MASSIE // December 6, 2007 at 10:48 AM
Thanks, Rejoice,…i accessed the Lehmanfamily.ca, affiliate of crossroads.ca and there was Mr.Murrell listed as the co-ordinator for the Grenada recovery effort by that organisation. thank you ever so much…and will those doubting thomases who will ever distance themselves from the truth!
rejoice // December 6, 2007 at 11:02 AM
Jerome, please don’t show us all that education is so far removed from brilliance. You seem to an educated jack#$%.
I wish we could all be adults on this MB, I am sure you would realise that some CHILD used my name to post his/her crap.
However, let me assure you that if the BLP want cussing I am going to cuss them.
I fear only GOD my friend.
I don’t depend on handouts, nor am I like you hoping for a DLP victory to be part of the fatted calf. I can pick breadfruits from the yard and do a breadfruit dish each day and freeze the rest.
No one loves me like me and no one can take care of me like me, Only the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords.
I know how it is to be poor and I have no problem with it.
You and the others DLPites are not man/woman enough to say anything negative about the DLP.
You are looking for the ribs
Adrian Hinds // December 6, 2007 at 11:08 AM
Folks… parliamentary reforms are in need, much as changes to the make up of government are required. I am willing to give reforms to parliament a try first, as the latter requires significant forklift, expense, and time to think it thru to come up with a workable process. This approach to change the make up of government is a long-term one. Yet things cannot remain, as they are for much longer.
Parliamentary Reform:
There are countless best practices of reforms, new processes and procedures, changes to standing orders and the make up of a parliament for Barbados to draw from. Barbados should look to enhance the House political function, which is to foster good government that is acceptable to the people. Such reforms should include but would not be limited to, having the power to insist ministers account for their conduct and their bills and policies in their present portfolios. (Canadian Parliament)
I cannot do a complete analysis of the Barbados parliament for I do not have access to the details of its Parliamentary procedures, the most I can do is to refer too what pertain in other parliaments, and suggest some of the changes that are needed in light of the no-confidence debacle.
The Speaker:
If the presiding officer in the Barbados Parliament is to maintain the validity and power vested in this office which in the Canadian parliament is to be chairman, umpire, and manager, for the House proceedings then we need to change the process of the Prime Minister Nominating the Speaker, after consultation with the Leader of the opposition.
I hereby suggest that we adopt what pertains in the Canadian Parliament , and that in the next constituted parliament that the Speaker of the house be selected by secret ballot from among several candidates chosen from among the entire House.
Questions both written and oral:
There must a requirement that questions put to ministers be answered and a time frame given within which the Speaker insist that the Minister in question responds, or the Prime Minister responds on there behalf.
Oral Questions:
It is time that “Question time” be instituted and regularly followed in Barbados parliament. Again, a time limit and a process of the Minister in question or the Prime Minister are required to reply. The intent should be obvious that anyone that has a glancing idea of what now pertains in our parliament, i.e. The PM not in regular attendance, Ministers not accounting for anything in there portfolio and written questions on the order paper going unnoticed and unanswered. A positive outcome from this implementation could be the revival of parliament as place of interest and concern to all Barbadians as they tune into this event.
Feel free to add any events and or activities that occurs in other parliaments and that it’s absence in our is
rejoice // December 6, 2007 at 11:15 AM
As much as I felt like telling you off yesterday. I totally support all of your last post.
Very well said Mr. Hinds.
Adrian Hinds // December 6, 2007 at 11:32 AM
Rejoice:
please note your support or intended cussing does not concern or move me.
The truth as i see it does require either. :D
Observing // December 6, 2007 at 11:38 AM
Which specific section or gallery or page is Mr. Murrell to be found on any of these websites??
Rejoice, my questions were about allegatinos raised against Hardwood Housing in the No-Confidence motion which as I already explained, Mascoll is linked to in my mind. As for the woman, dispute or refute the allegations that were raised and her credibility is shot. Probably so would be the motion.
Mascoll defenders need to realise that the public wants answers or responses to the allegations raised. Personal attacks, rehashing of the DLP’s probably sordid past and claiming that it’s only a poor black man just isn’t cutting it. We’ve been witness to too many instances of probable corruption, lack of transparency, accountability and sound judgment on the part of our ministers with no acknowledgement of responsibility and we are tired of it. Hardwood is just the straw that’s breaking our backs.
Stupid comments, deal with the issue at hand. The DLP are not angels and their past is not clean. None of that is currently up for debate in Parliament. When it’s time to deal with them they will get their share.
rejoice // December 6, 2007 at 11:40 AM
Well I like practicality, so weather you are a B, D or Whatever, what you are saying makes a whole lot of sense.
It creates fairness and nothing can beat that.
Remember at the end of the day this is our country. Weather we live here or not.
Just let the truth prevail.
MASSIE // December 6, 2007 at 11:44 AM
I wish to state that I find this forum, exciting and informative…but as long as we have folks like “Waiting In vain” who abuse their democratic privelege…this medium is greatly diluted. I can Joust with Mr Adian Hinds, Jerome Hinds< Rejoice, Loveridge…but for god’s sake let’s not rant and rave and get all emotional, at least respect facts, and not be bent on perpetuating “hear-say”….we deserve better,Oh Vain one!
Wishing in Vain // December 6, 2007 at 11:46 AM
Here, here Adrian well said.
I wonder what that cabinet meeting must be like today after hearing ASSCOLL hammer Owing and Glyne with his revelation to investigate the DANOS 3S ABC ROAD WORKS PROJECT it clearly says to me that he is aware of the corruption that is involved in that project as well lets wait on the VECO PRISON project lets hear more on that to.
After having Owing in his quest to shaft mottley and install ASSCOLL ahead of her in the pecking order, and now have to befound to be such an immoral spineless beast that he has brought into the inner circle of the blp.
It has certainly brought Owings name into the gutter by his close association and unwavering support of ASSCOLL, and in doing so he now has two choices either dump him to try to recover the tarnished name of the party or to continue to support him and allow ASSCOLL to lead them into further decline and moral disruption.
The signs are clear that Owings close association with ASSCOLL is not doing the party any favours at all actually it is driving very loyal party members away to vote against his dishonesty it also suggest that Owing condones and supports and is part and parcel of this corruption in office.
MASSIE // December 6, 2007 at 11:57 AM
Phillips said the project was in keeping with work Operation Mobilisation had done over the years, including home-building in the aftermath of the devastation of Grenada by Hurricane Ivan.
“After Hurricane Ivan . . . we built well over 500 houses. We covered over 600 roofs,” she reported.
IS this Phillips…the same disgruntled woman who is allowing Tom Pee to say That the Minister Mascoll was wrong to repeat what he was told by her! Good God…she has a lot to explain to Peter ,Before crossing the Golden gate
rejoice // December 6, 2007 at 11:57 AM
Massie
There is a difference between persons who have difficulty with some of the things Government does and political yardfowls.
Waiting In Vain is a political Yardfowl, you need to ignore him.
Forgive me for being slow, it took me a whole day to realise how silly he is.
Wishing in Vain // December 6, 2007 at 11:58 AM
MASSIE not hear say when I charge ASSCOLL with acting beyond the calling of his position and saying that he is as corrupt as they come.
He has been referred by those working with him on the project as an agent of HARDWOOD HOUSING not my words my friend it was revealed by those working alongside him on his project.
Not hear say when I state that someone has been charged for sexual misconduct in the company.
Not Hear say when I state that they broke the laws of this island by employing undocumented foreign workers.
Not Hear say when I state that ASSCOLL referred many times as HARDWOOD HOUSING his project as my project.
Such Stupid Comments // December 6, 2007 at 12:09 PM
WIV could you ask Cranston Browne about those bounced cheques written while he was CEO of the DLP?
Could you asked Hartley about the sexual assualt of Jennifer Lazlo?
Could you ask TOM PEE about his involvement in the granting of concessions to CLICO?
Can you indicate the dollar value of those concessions and tell the tax payers how much money they lost?
Is the candidate for St. James South still involve in porn?
I agree with you there is more to come. and it coming soon.
Adrian Loveridge // December 6, 2007 at 12:21 PM
In the Ricky Jordan article entitled
‘Mascoll: I was only helping’
published in the Daily Nation Wednesday 5th December 2007, Mr Mascoll stated
‘Murrell’s work was evident on two websites: http://www.crossroads.ca
and
http://www.samaritansfirst.org‘
actually it should be http://www.samaritanspurse.org
Let me tell you of the response I have just received from David Shelley, Director of Missions, Crossroads Christian Communications Inc.
‘Hi Adrian
Thank you for your email. Crossroads Missions did assist with rebuilding homes in Grenada after Hurricane Ivan in 2004 and Volunteer Teams (ours and many others) worked together under the leadership of Samaritans Purse. We don’t know how many homes were rebuilt (our group wasn’t counting), and Anthony Murrell was not part of our Crossroads Mission Team’.
‘We believe Anthony Murrell was working with another organisation supporting the rebuilding program, but since he wasn’t part of our Crossroads group, are not aware what assistance he or his company may have provided’.
Yours Truly
David Shelley
Wishing in Vain // December 6, 2007 at 12:21 PM
After many years of ruling and manipulating the public of Barbados we are seeing a change blowing in the wind sadly the ruling party and its louts cannot face tolerate or stand the idea of loosing that grip on the treasury of Barbados.
Once these signals begin to become more progressive and start to get stronger the loyals of the gang of crooks resort to the gutter to fight their battles I may suggest that this is where they are most comfortable.
The sooner you and you gang come to the realisation that your days are numbered because of not what the Opposition has done but moreso by your own efforts with the extent of your corruption and dishonesty in office your arrogance contributes in no small way either.
Wishing in Vain // December 6, 2007 at 12:26 PM
Now Adrian am I wrong to state that ASSCOLL clearly stated that crossroads.ca site was to be referred to and was one of those that he worked with?
I put it to you that this is just another example of his dishonest actions and his propensity to lie even when for no real great benefit.
Jerome Hinds // December 6, 2007 at 12:28 PM
MASSIE // December 6, 2007 at 11:57 am
Phillips said the project was in keeping with work Operation Mobilisation had done over the years, including home-building in the aftermath of the devastation of Grenada by Hurricane Ivan.
“After Hurricane Ivan . . . we built well over 500 houses. We covered over 600 roofs,” she reported.
IS this Phillips…the same disgruntled woman who is allowing Tom Pee to say That the Minister Mascoll was wrong to repeat what he was told by her! Good God…she has a lot to explain to Peter ,Before crossing the Golden gate
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MASSIE,
The charge against ASSCOLL is about poor JUDGEMENT and poor GOVERNANCE !
Read the link below : MASCOLL said MURRELL BUILT…..500 houses in GRENADA …..not Ms. PHILLIPS !
http://www.nationnews.com/story/286970350093911.php
Is that how a BLP ( proclaimed BRILLIANT ECONOMIST ) is trained to present FACTS ?
No wonder ASSCOLL LIED about :
** GEMS !
** JAWS !
** www. crossroads.ca !
** Food prices falling by 1st week of December 2007 !
** Mystery ” woman ” tieffing a FILE !
(The only woman who would THIEF the FILE is……Cyralene Mascoll to hide the Perry Gap MESS ! )
You BLP CHARLATANS……Tek wey yourselves !
Softman // December 6, 2007 at 12:37 PM
The debate of in barbados can be so dishonest at times. Was the Enterprise growth fund really going to apply normal standards with that level of urgency attached to hardwood inc by no lesser person than a senior government minster, who seems to have been given a free hand to solve this vexing housing problem?
I am sorry but the Enterprise Growth Fund was practically ordered to finance Hardwood by the government. We like to get caught up in a lot of pretense ad useless debate abut procedures rather than facing reality. It is utterly dishonest to blame the folks at the Enterprise Growth Fund now or put them upfront as the lax ones in this case. I repeat the Enterprise Growth Fund as virtually ordered to fund Hardwood.
Maybe the government should have done this through some contractual arrangement with the ministry of housing. One of my problems with this whole issue is the strong government involvement but a complete absence of the ministry of housing.
One of the benefits of the hardwood discussion is it has lead me to focus a bit more on how the government may be using entities like the Enterprise Growth Fund, Fund Access, HRL, BTII inc etc.
Can someone please tell me if a company majority financed by one of these entities automatically a government owned company? If so how many of these are out there? Does the public have any mechanism for exercising scrutiny over the activities of these companies?
It seems like there could be a lot of people on the government payroll who do not work in the civil service or at a statutory corporation. A great way of spreading the pork.
Phoenix // December 6, 2007 at 12:42 PM
In the past David Thompson has made a lot of the issue of off-budget spending. I think has made a lot Softman is raising an interesting question about these various government entities. HRL was at the centre of GEMS and is very delinquent with filing financial statements.
rejoice // December 6, 2007 at 12:45 PM
Adrian:
In association with:
David Shelley as far as I recall was in Grenada for one week. David Shelly a much respected man was also not there with the first group of workers.
Since you are at it, write and ask him if he knows the Lehman family.
Mr. Murrell when to Grenada with OM, I know you are aware of that, all the teams worked together.
I will also show you evidence of this if your viewing of the lehmanfamily.ca site with the same crossroads person is not enough for you.
Why are you not commenting on what you saw on the sites? I told you exactly where to go.
Come on Adrian lets have some balance.
Adrian Hinds // December 6, 2007 at 12:52 PM
Phoenix // December 6, 2007 at 12:42 pm
In the past David Thompson has made a lot of the issue of off-budget spending. I think has made a lot Softman is raising an interesting question about these various government entities. HRL was at the centre of GEMS and is very delinquent with filing financial statements.
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Bonaparte state; Chris Sinkler explains the reasons behind these state funded entities.
http://www.dlpbarbados.org/cms/images/stories/media/fs_flashplayer.php?object=Eagle_Hall_Sinckler112K
Wishing in Vain // December 6, 2007 at 12:55 PM
It appears to me that there is whole host of begging going on from gov’t backers side.
The reality is that we have seen a gross case of misconduct performed by ASSCOLL, there is no need to plead his case for him after all he is big boy, let him stand on his own two feet and cry if wants to cry the theatrics will create a laugh for those that are wactching but no sympathy from those than want to see an end to this arrogance and their corruption.
Adrian Hinds // December 6, 2007 at 12:56 PM
Rejoice; is it I Adrian Hinds that your referred too? or Adrian Loverage?
if me, I do not need balance. A claim was laid by Mascoll that Murrell built 500 house in Grenada he didn’t say repair, or replace roofs he explicitly said BUILD.
Thompson refuted this claim, and Mascoll response was that the 500 houses built was neither here or there.
No balance needed when facts would suffice.
Observing // December 6, 2007 at 1:01 PM
I wanted to avoid debunking the Grenada issue but here goes.
“Murrell went into the island as part of Operation Mobilisation.”
Was he a part of or in charge of?
Was he THE coordinator or A coordinator?
“There was a need to provide fast, affordable houses for those who were displaced and that was when he pitched his idea.”
Was it Murrell’s idea?
“They mass-produced 600 14′x16′ starter houses and not only gave Grenadians shelter, but hope.”
Does mass production of “starter houses” in a crisis qualify one for production of permanent houses in a regular environment?
Rejoice – “all the teams worked together”
Is this an acknowledgement that it was a combined international team effort not necessarily under the leadership, directorship or vision of Murrell that this feat was done?
And for crying out loud, if Murrell did this wonderful thing (which as a bajan I would truly be glad and proud if he did), certainly somebody would have more tangible evidence that ONE photo on a family personal website.
Wishing in Vain // December 6, 2007 at 1:22 PM
Lets look at the brain power applied by ASSCOLL in his own defence, he provides two website addresses of these two addresses one diverts to smoe unrelated website the other has no reference to Grenada or anthing at all, here it is we have a statement that he came well prepared for this debate and what does he do first up deliver information that has NO relation to his case whatsoever, thankfully he stated that he was well prepared may the lord help us if he failed to prepare it would be an even worst disaster.
Wishing in Vain // December 6, 2007 at 1:24 PM
Adrian H that would equate to 5 1/2 houses per day built, does that not sound a little strange to swallow?
Thewhiterabbit // December 6, 2007 at 1:47 PM
The real worry in Mr. Macsoll’s use of the word “we” is his usurpation of the royal prerogative. Only the Queen can use the plural when meaning the singular, referencing, as it does in that case, the realm. In our case only King Arthur is empowered to use the royal “we”. Mr. Mascoll is clearly climbing above his station, or perhaps it is only practice in the event that he should become the heir apparent to the throne.
Jerome Hinds // December 6, 2007 at 2:09 PM
And for crying out loud, if Murrell did this wonderful thing (which as a bajan I would truly be glad and proud if he did), certainly somebody would have more tangible evidence that ONE photo on a family personal website.
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Observing ,
Your comments above have struck the nail on the head !
It is a pity that ASSCOLL’s heir apparent that NICOMPOOP a.k.a REJOICE has nothing better to do !
ASSCOLL & his AGENT ( Murrel ) during his press conference destroyed ASSCOLL’ s credibilty !
Here is the RECAP of that press conference in October 2007 :
** Asscoll stated…..whether Murrel built 500 houses or not..is neither here nor there !
But look what ASSCOLL said 1 year ago about the same issue !
http://www.nationnews.com/story/286970350093911.php
** Asscoll in his letter to David Thompson of 4 th October 2007 stated……that no Illegal immigrants were ever employed at HARDWOOD Inc . !
But Murrell in the same press conference told Barbadians….YES illegal immigrants are employed at HARDWOOD Inc. and YES 2 even worked at Mrs. Mascoll’s premises at Perry Gap !
REJOICE……you can FART as long as you like……we looking forward to your response when we display ASSCOLL responses to those letters appearing in the Nation News of 2007 – 12 – 05 !
29 th November 2007……..??????
You ain’t FEEL no TREMOR yet !
Stay TUNED !
4dr14n H1nd5 // December 6, 2007 at 2:26 PM
The King/queen in Mixed governments is the cabinet, and if you unknowingly adhere to the fallacy of the consequent then the royal lie, becomes the truth. :D :D
If the King is the cabinet and I am a member of the cabinet, therefore then i am king, and can use the royal prerogative.
So Arthur has to determine whether Mascoll merely misspoke, or fully appreciates the tenuous hold on power that dictates, Arthur being Mascoll’s equal, must be seen as first at all times?
:D :D :D ha ha ha ha ha first among equals, i love the fallacy and stupidity of mixed governments don’t you?
Refusing to stay buried deep down in the fur of the white rabbit. :D
MASSIE // December 6, 2007 at 2:32 PM
Credibility, is the key! Thompson’s, mascoll’s, Murrell’s, and mostly that of “Wishing In Vain”
MASSIE // December 6, 2007 at 2:33 PM
Wishing in Vain when you create a blog-site….you should stay away from it and let others express their views. You contaminate the whole process! Fraud!
MASSIE // December 6, 2007 at 2:37 PM
what has continued to puzzle me…apart from assisting the govt to solve a housing problem…what was Mascoll to gain? How id he profit? where is his Skullduggery? Show where he receive one single dollar…and then I will be the first to say…shame on him…he should resign!
Wishing in Vain // December 6, 2007 at 2:48 PM
Fear not my friend I will be yours, ASSCOLLS, Owings worst nightmare.
So long as the corruption continues you will hear my voice and nothing such as you can or will affect my willingness to decry these illegal actions.
Wishing in Vain // December 6, 2007 at 2:50 PM
Also explain ASSCOLLS statement to investigate the ABC road wors project they to seem to have steal in there.
Anonymous // December 6, 2007 at 2:54 PM
Massie,
The question is not so much how would Mascol gain personally. .It is about the whole question of governance? What standards do we intend to abide by? What are you defending. Mascoll’s wife said on CBC that she told Hardwood GM not to use any of that company’s resources ( employees) on her building. Now, why do you think Mrs.MMascoll, took that position if she did not think there was something wrong?
Velzo // December 6, 2007 at 2:59 PM
Rejoice, are you still at it? What more do you need? You have been totally exposed!
Softman // December 6, 2007 at 3:00 PM
MASSIE you are setting the bar for accountability way too low. All we ask is that people who occupy high office both be and appear to be above board and act within the limits of their authority.
For example, when ministers acts in the way the minister of state did it makes it difficult for one to have confidence in the processes of organizations like the Enterprise Growth Fund .
I would even argue that the minister put the growth fund in an impossible position.
Sure, some exploiting this for pure political gain, but in my view it does not change the underlying issue. The minister has some explaining to do. I am quite concerned that he like you feels he acted quite properly.
Adrian Loveridge // December 6, 2007 at 3:01 PM
Rejoice, you talk about having balance!
If I was Mr Mascoll, and I had said SO MANY things that had subsequently proven to be untrue, I would have checked VERY carefully before quoting two particular websites, neither of which gives any reference to Anthony Murrell.
This is all about honesty and judgement, and the kind of people we want running our country.
Once again, Mr Mascoll has been found to be economical with the truth!
Wishing in Vain // December 6, 2007 at 3:19 PM
Lets face it friends not only is ASSCOLL in need of an investigation in this scam called HARDWOOD HOUSING, so to the actions of Owing for his role in every single corrupt event that has transpired over the course of his rule including the reasoning of depositing of that cheque, mottley in connection with Edutech, culture, AG Visa, Prison burning, awarding of the prison contract to an international group of gangsters with a know track record of paying bribes to politicians where local Barbadians quoted a mere US $ 7 million more than VECO but because of their refusal to pay HALLAM NICHOLLS and Owing a commission of 7 % are not awarded the contract but instead of costing us US $ 60 million as quoted it closes off at the grand sum of US $ 145 million WONDERFUL PLANNING OWING AND mottley , Glyne Clarke his role in the awarding of the road works project that jumps from US $ 60 millon to US $ 180 million, Jerome Walcott for his absolute abuse of his ministry, Noeless I want a plantation Lynch for he sudden turn around in his financial well being from not being able to live to living the lifestyle of the rich and the famous, ps how are your golf lesson progressing?
Wonderful what one gets in exchange for giving golf lessons???
we need to investigate Liz Thompson who despite all the best advice chooses to proceed to build a dump at GREENLAND she should be jailed for her misconduct and that of her husbans least we forget his construction of the super baths.
Basically at every turn in the adminstration we have seen a gross misuse of funds and a gross misuse of power .
Wishing in Vain // December 6, 2007 at 3:28 PM
Sadly I doubt ASSCOLLS abilty to reason and see his flaws.
Adrian is so correct in his suggestion that ASSCOLL has been found to be economical with the truth! I think that this is wonderful expression.
Here we have someone that has said that he was fully prepared for this debate delivering information that was proven to be unreliable and untrue, what does he take us for?
At least while speaking in the house try to deliver clear and honest speeches neither of which you seem able to do.
4dr14n H1nd5 // December 6, 2007 at 3:37 PM
Has anyone seen or heard from Ezra Alleyne who had self appointed himself lord allknowing of all matters constitutional and parliamentary?
…..At least as a former speaker of the house does he not have any spin to add to these recent events? Maybe he is here diguise as someone else. We know how damaged his real name is.
Observing // December 6, 2007 at 3:44 PM
Sometimes silence speaks louder than words.
No words from anyone to dispute the direct allegations as laid in the motion.
No word from EGFL about this issue, even though CLEARLY they are directly implicated.
No word or statement from the new chairman of Hardwood Housing about the issue or how things are currently going or have improved with the company.
No word from anyone who worked with or for Murrell in Grenada on the 500 houses.
No word from any former or current Hardwood employee in defense of Murrell.
No word from any other small black men in the country in support of one of their own.
No word from the Minister of Housing whose ministry is a “partner” with Hardwood.
No word from any representative of BIDC whose buildings Hardwood used.
No word from anyone who has received a house, or has a house already built and is at the factory waiting.
No words of support for Mascoll other than Owen “all the members on my side have integrity” Arthur, Mia “we are ready for this motion anytime you bring it ” Mottley and Liz “I can’t defend unless I use personal attacks” Thompson.
No word from Murrell since the infamous press conference.
Silence is golden. It also speaks volumes.
Wishing in Vain // December 6, 2007 at 4:18 PM
If Kott is going to be looking at 3 years for taking less than US $ 100,000.00 how much time do you feel ASSCOLL , OWING, LYNCH, CLARKE, WALCOTT mottley deserve for their actions?
In my book double life with hard labour.
Another VECO CASUALITY WILL OWING, BANNISTER AND NICHOLLS FOLLOW ?
Kott’s lawyer says about 3 years in prison enough
The Associated Press
ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) – The lawyer for former Alaska House Speaker Pete Kott says his client should serve less than three years in a federal prison.
Jim Wendt made a 33-month recommendation in a court filing ahead of Kott’s sentencing Friday for bribery, conspiracy and extortion. He was convicted in September.
Wendt’s recommendation is much lower than the government’s request that Kott serve at least a decade.
Wishing in Vain // December 6, 2007 at 5:05 PM
Seems like the blp mouth piece has been forced to shut up when faced with the fact of the matter.
HONESTY IN OFFICE, NO CORRUPTION
IF ANY MINISTER OF A DLP GOV”T IS CAUGHT IN THIS SITUATION HE WILL BE FIRED ON THE SPOT THIS IS WHAT THE PARTY HAS AGREED TO AND STATED SO BY MR DAVID THOMPSON.
Time for a new gov’t, time to evict this corrupt dishonest bunch before we have no land and no money for us the real BAJANS.
Leviticus // December 6, 2007 at 6:33 PM
I heard today about the list of names David Thompson submitted to the Speaker. I also saw a document of great interest to BU and others. This will go down as an exciting event in our history!
Observing // December 6, 2007 at 8:11 PM
Please, don’t leak anything that is scheduled for Parliament Tuesday, especially if it’s between Thompson and the Speaker. Let’s keep the discussion based only on what has been revealed so far. Fairness, objectivity, due process and neutrality in mind of course….
btw, uh caaaaaaaaaaaaan’t……waaaaait……
Rey. // December 6, 2007 at 9:24 PM
Hilarity. Reading this blog is really like reading the comments made on Brasstacks without the deletions. Are you all retired or self employed, or on the block? You seem to blog all hours of the day. Just kidding!
I enjoyed the opinions recorded here for the most part. Some comments are obviously fair, others are obviously biased. Still I guess this all lends to variety and quite a few laughs.
However, stop insulting each other. Remember that even the dull and the ignorant have their stories to tell.
We are always fast to recognize problems/criticize but when it comes to making a difference we shy away from this as it requires a bit more effort.
If we expect nothing from our politicians we will get nothing; if we require accountability and insist on it, it will come eventually.
Still I seem to sense that even though we are still a politically immature country, we are starting to open our eyes and are expecting more from our politicians! I believe it can only get better from here. I think we are not going to be satisfied until this country becomes less of a plantation and more of a nation.
Jerome Hinds // December 6, 2007 at 10:15 PM
To those old FARTS like MASSIE & REJOICE……ASSCOLL’s bellyaching about a woman and a missing file…..can be likened to a man who shot & killed another and threw the GUN in the BUSHES !
You know what the ACCUSED ( ASSCOLL ) man swore to all and sundry ( BARBADIAN PUBLIC )……I never touch that GUN
( HARDWOOD Inc. ) or shot no one ( $ 2 million taxpayer DEAD ! )
The TRUTH…..a passer – by ( YET TO BE IDENTIFIED …..DEEP THROAT ) stumbled on the GUN alert the authorities ( David Thompson & DEMS ) and BINGO the GUN has the finger prints of the accused !
Wishing in Vain // December 6, 2007 at 10:53 PM
I really cannot wait for Sunday night to come to hear a lttle more on the bastard, corrupt, liar ASSCOLL.
That Political meeting is going to be sweet , sweet , sweet with all of members of both houses speaking it will be electric indeed.
It will be at the HARDCOURT in BAYVILLE and the actions promises to be tight and hitting real hard.
I want to hear the Leader of the Opposition rip more holes into ASSCOLL and leave him with more holes in him and looking like a bad piece of Swiss Cheese.
Wishing in Vain // December 6, 2007 at 11:26 PM
Sadly Jerome this is the manifestation of too many years in power and ultimate control of ones mind body and soul.
With the length of time that this gang have been in power it attracts an element of gross arrogance and contempt for the ones who put them in office in the first place.
With it, one will witness a change in style and manner from a caring group to a callous self serving bunch.
This is exactly what has happened with this lot, each one cashing in on scams and bulking up their bank accounts as if there will be no tomorrow, this encompasses the entire blp administration.
Wishing in Vain // December 7, 2007 at 10:59 AM
I do not often quote from persons that are know to be dishonest and those that have been taken before the courts and have faced charges for stealing, but I must ask which drug is this idiot EZRA ALLEYNE on when he states in his article of today’s date that “Political Debate during the past few days about Hardwood and the Ministry of Finance, has once again exposed the YAWNING GAPS IN PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE ON MATTERS CONCERNING THE GOVERANCE OF THIS COUNTRY”.
As I see it this is an assult on our intellect we the taxpayers of this island, we do not understand Goverence because we are not prepared to tolerate gross corruption and dishonesty by those in office and because we seek justice and resolve in those matters we do not understand Governance, you must be a total and complete idiot, I think that it is because we understand Goverance that we seek honesty in public office a feature that you and your gang of cohorts seem not to know about.
If by seeking to get to the bottom of HARDWOOD HOUSING and by using a means often used in the past to seek truth we do not understand Goverence I think you have major problems in your judgment Alleyne.
Jerome Hinds // December 7, 2007 at 11:00 AM
Well Philipe Taitt has come to the……PARTY !
Here are some of the GOODIES he brought along :
** YES……I was ASSCOLL’s agent for sourcing HARDWOOD materials from GUYANA !
** YES…..I delivered the HARDWOOD materials to ASSCOLL as REQUESTED !
** YES….there was a Manufacturing Plant producing houses ( Taitt seems to suggests there may be OTHER MANUFACTIRING PLANT / COMPANIES ! )
** NO……the company was not called HARDWOOD by October 2006 !
That is quite TRUE…..because the COMPANY was incorporated as HARDWOOD HOUSING FACTORY Inc. on 1 st November 2006 !
In the link below…..ASSCOLL confirms TAITT’s stand on this……because by October 2006 it was only a Manufacturing Plant….NO NAME attached !
http://www.nationnews.com/story/286970350093911.php
What we waiting for TAITT to tell us is this……Who wrote :
+ The letter appearing in the Weekend Nation of 2007 – 12 – 05 & 2007 – 12 – 07 ?
+ Is the LETTER HEAD…..GENUINE ?
+ Why the Nationews both on 2007 – 12 – 05 & 2007 – 12 – 07 PUBLISHED this letter but refused to show WHO signed it ?
I hope you have not taken the BAIT…..Mr. TAITT ……!
We…….AWAIT….Mr. TAITT !
Anonymous // December 7, 2007 at 11:02 AM
I wonder for what reason his partner Kim Young got fired when she worked at Brydens, was it for the same reasons that he was taken to court?
Wishing in Vain // December 7, 2007 at 11:25 AM
Wonder if ASSCOLL has made peace with the operator of 8 ball and has he been allowed back in?
Why does Owing spend his days recently in a complete drunken stupor?
Why does Owing feel it necessary to appeal to Chris Sinckler at lunch to give he and his party an ease time with this no Confidence Motion, his best course of action will be to fire ASSCOLL or to stand on the sidelines and do nothing and let mottley and her clan rise and displace him as the Barbados dictator.
Wishing in Vain // December 7, 2007 at 12:51 PM
Pat Hoyos is asking why are all the people using the call in show so hostile today, someone called in and very clearly told him that the Nation is frustrated, annoyed and ready to vote for a change of goverance.
He seems to be living somewhere other that Barbados as the caller told him that people are upset with the absolute lack of conversations with we the citizens about the vast number of things that the gov’t needs to be speaking to its citizens about, the arrogance of the gov’t to do things that they need to give the citizens an account for but totally and completely fail to communicate with its people about anthing.
Adrian Hinds // December 7, 2007 at 1:35 PM
Anonymous // December 7, 2007 at 11:02 am
I wonder for what reason his partner Kim Young got fired when she worked at Brydens, was it for the same reasons that he was taken to court?
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Is this an innocent play on the word “PARTNER” or it has more meaning than.
that?
……But who is this Kim Young person? what is here story?
Such Stupid Comments // December 7, 2007 at 4:07 PM
AH …. for a person who pretends to be so … OOf you really do ask some silly questions
Wishing in Vain // December 7, 2007 at 4:13 PM
If a 5.5 % swing existed two months ago, I would pay to know what the margin is on the 7th Dec 2007, my guess is that it would have grown some what since the last poll.
I agree with you wholeheartedly that the people need to be motivated and want to vote a low voter turnout I would suppose would favour the blp but my feeling this poll may well be one of our largest in recent history, you only need to listen to people from all walks of life complaining about their electricity bills their water bills, food bills, gas bills and then let them realise that while they are catching hell, the politicians are are robbing them and stowing away vast sums of ill gotten monies to their overseas accounts and that in itself is enough to send people beserk with annoyance and hate.
Anonymous // December 7, 2007 at 4:44 PM
If Mascoll has done nothing that was wrong…why did his wife fine it necessary to say to the public of Barbados that she had previously instructed Murrell not to use workers from Hardwood?..At least she recognised that it was a conflict of interest!
Observer // December 7, 2007 at 7:17 PM
Anonymous
Mascoll wife is a lawyer. She covering her tracks. AH you ask what is Kim Young story I suggest you ask the Bar Association. Lawyers know the woman inside out. Ezra Alleyne raise your hand.
Anonymous // December 8, 2007 at 12:22 AM
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Such Stupid Comments // December 7, 2007 at 4:07 pm
AH …. for a person who pretends to be so … OOf you really do ask some silly questions
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SSC you have to admit, that for someone who does not live in Barbados i does do a pretty good job, commenting on things Barbadian. :D ….but pray tell what is so silly about the Kim Young questions? wuh i don’t know de woman from de next person? Uh tell yuh i don’t live pun de rock , and i fairly confident that if i did i still wouldn’t know who she is. I don’t move in dem kinda circles. :D
Wishing in Vain // December 8, 2007 at 12:38 AM
Kott gets 6 years in prison for corruption
By LISA DEMER
ldemer@adn.com
Published: December 7, 2007
Last Modified: December 7, 2007 at 04:40 PM
Former state Rep. Pete Kott was sentenced today to six years in federal prison and fined $10,000 for his conviction on bribery and other corruption charges.
In handing down the sentence this morning, U.S. District Judge John Sedwick said he found that Kott, a former House speaker who represented Eagle River until last year, committed perjury in his testimony during his trial in September.
The judge did not set a date for Kott to report to prison. Kott left the courtroom accompanied by his daughter, his girlfriend, his lawyer and friends. A mob of reporters waited outside.
Kott’s sentence also includes three years’ probation, and he was ordered to receive alcoholism treatment.
Kott’s attorney had argued that he should receive 33 months in prison – a little less than three years – while prosecutors had requested 10 years.
A federal jury convicted Kott, 58, of bribery, conspiracy and extortion for his role in advocating an oil tax pushed by Veco Corp. executives and favored by North Slope oil producers. He received nearly $9,000, a political poll for his re-election campaign and the promise of a job, all from from Veco executives, according to testimony.
For more details see -: http://www.adn.com/news/politics/fbi/kott/story/9504703p-9415453c.html
Wishing in Vain // December 8, 2007 at 9:21 AM
You are so right.
Thistle
December 7, 2007 at 7:49 am
I think there should be a strong public outcry against the blatantly partisan behaviour, and downright rudeness, shown by the Speaker of the House on the suspension of the No Confidence Motion. Mr. Roett reminds me of the late Burton Hinds – partisan and dictatorial.
Wishing in Vain // December 8, 2007 at 9:56 AM
Owing seems to have lost his brain or is it the rum taking control of his emotions?
What he is so accustomed to doing here of calling and cursing people at will seems now very sadly to have been carried forward to his manner with dealing with the various heads of state, I am not sure that this manner is the right manner for our PRIME MINISTER to display at this level.
Conferences sources spoke of “tension and verbal clashes” involving some heads of government including the Prime Ministers of Barbados Owen Arthur (current chairman of the community} and Grenada’s Prime Minister Keith Mitchell who had initiated moves for the cost of living problem to be a priority agenda.
If I did not know better I would have considered that Owing was worrying about the impact his stealing from the treasury may have been having on our cost of living position, or he may have been worrying about what he is going to do about the one ASSCOLL, his worries may even extend to the HARDWOOD HOUSING issues, or his worries may even be thinking about what to do with the thing in his cabinet called moraless mottley, or his worries could be the results of the court cases both in the UK and the USA for FRAUD, BRIBERY and CORRUPTION by people that he went into bed with on projects here in Barbados with VECO and DANOS two players and two Scamps, maybe it could have been the impact of the crap that they have done with GREENLAND or the BATHS, or it could be Lynch and his want a plantation claim or maybe the recall of 90,000 arrivals for CWC or the 34 cruise ships and the 700 yachts, but then I opened my eyes and realised it was merely a dream and the reality is that these things do not matter the least to Owing and his clan of criminals so long as they keep their bank accounts growing.
I was so wrong to assume that this party was a caring party, we have seen and felt that this is far from the case.
Waiting // December 8, 2007 at 12:31 PM
I regularly fail to unravel pudding and souse in Nation on Sat but today the story under Full Moon(town) is implying Denis Kellman as usual is a loose cannon on the no confidence motion.
WIV what is Kellman’s beef?
Is he so wrapped up in illusions of his greatness he doesnt appreciate what it is to be a team player. Its the goals of the team that count not one deluded player. The Dems have Owen and Bees on the backfoot. It would be a travesty for Kellman and his runt self to spoil the party. He has hurt the Dems before in search of his own selfish ends.
David // December 8, 2007 at 3:47 PM
This topic continues to break all the records since its release on December 4, 2007. It has been the top post every day since being published – with all other topics trailing far behind.
What we think we will do is to list it at the top of the heap tomorrow and let it run until after the debate on Tuesday.
Leviticus // December 8, 2007 at 4:44 PM
Erskine “Cap” Durant, I got a call today about you. You surprised me though! I still here thinking how to deal with the info I got…
David // December 8, 2007 at 6:59 PM
Leviticus what are you going on about?
Rebranded // December 9, 2007 at 1:32 AM
I try not to be personal or abusive, but Mascoll sending unbiased listeners to the no-confidence debate, to go to two websites that proved to be a total waste of time, shows a level of incompetence aptly described as dangerous to parliamentary democracy and good governance.
Prison in Barbados has often been home to the idiot who \”has done nothing wrong\” hustled off to prison just for being stupid, ignorant, and sometimes uneducated. Mascoll at least can avoid the label of uneducated, but fits the other categories of person very well. He may not have benefited financially as yet from this Hardwood fiasco, but In my judgement he did a lot wrong and has undermined the public trust in himself as a minister of goverment.
I appeal to all right-thinking voters to save Mascoll from himself, possibly from prison, and to save Barbados from this present morass. How BLP colleagues can try to foist this behavior on the voting public is beyond me. For me it is political suicide, by politicians so tired of getting away with murder their vision has become blurred and can no longer recognise corruption, or misconduct for what they are.
They are like roosters shacking up with turkeys and asking: what are you hens crowing about?
Wishing in Vain // December 9, 2007 at 2:31 AM
1.Look like more action in store for tonight at BAYVILLE by the HARDCOURTS.
2.http://www.barbadosadvocate.com/NewViewNewsleft.cfm?Record=33899
3.Nation on Sat but today the story under Full Moon(town) is implying Denis Kellman.
You obviously received a very special version of the nation today as your must have been delivery with your share of crack or cocaine as there is nowhere in Pudding and Souse that any mention is made Full moon.
Why are you blp louts so fixated with lying and stealing?
Adrian Loveridge // December 9, 2007 at 9:19 AM
This gets more and more unbelievable…
‘She (Carol Phillips) said her salary at the time was $4,500 gross with fuel and cellphone bill payment, along with AN ENTERTAINTMENT ALLOWANCE OF $2,000 WHICH WAS USABLE AT AQUA RESTAURANT’.
Just help me understand!
This is a company that is stating its mission statement is to provide low cost affordable housing.
This is a company that is 90% owned by the taxpapers (Government).
What on earth would an employee of this company need to have a $2,000 monthly allowance to spend at a particular stated restaurant?
Just remind me who the owners are of Aqua are?
Is there any common link between Hardwood Housing Factory Inc, Enterprise Growth Fund and Aqua Restaurant?
So who is telling the truth, Ms. Carol Phillips or Minister Clyde Mascoll.
We know Mr. Mascoll lied about Crossroads and Samaritans Purse.
Wishing in Vain // December 9, 2007 at 9:22 AM
So who is telling the truth, Ms. Carol Phillips or Minister Clyde Mascoll.
Adrian you really need not ask , he is charged and convicted as a compulsive liar.
Maybe further investigation should be undertaken to see if AQUA is also benefitting from financial help from a common directorship in EGFL.
In this present setup I put nothing pass anyone within this corrupt gov’t called the blp headed by corrupt leader Owing.
Anonymous // December 9, 2007 at 9:27 AM
Exactly, Adrian.
Why would a “poor black man’s” office assistant be allowed to spend $2000 of precious taxpayer’s money at Hardwood Director Mr Hoyos’ restaurant.
Please
Wishing in Vain // December 9, 2007 at 9:51 AM
You tell me partner?
I wonder if AQUA collected some of that easy money from EGFL as well after all HOYOS is a director of both companies.
David // December 9, 2007 at 9:53 AM
We are sure that our online family appreciate seeing the ad which appears on the back section of the Sunday Sun today.
Unbelievable // December 9, 2007 at 10:11 AM
Plot getting thicker by the day. Hoyos and Brewer are Aqua owners? If so Hoyos has more questions to answer. I think we can stick a fork in Mascoll.
The wood spoon this morning is clown Lynch repeating CWC was Barbados finest hour. This super arrogant, hard ears clown persists in treating Barbadians as fools. The world including majority of Barbadians voted CWC a letdown and barely short of a fiasco. Lynch the boasty idiot calls it our finest hour again and again. Not surprising low island tourism ministers Beache and Chastenet laugh at this clown Lord help us.
Straight talk // December 9, 2007 at 10:23 AM
So it’s all coming clearer now.
Mascoll brings in a dupe with a cock and bull story and introduces him to EGF, who contrary to their lending procedures, dole out an initial $900,000 to purchase, among other things, plant and machinery.
The poor black man instead of purchasing the said equipment enters a lease agreement to acquire them, then leases them himself to the company to whom taxpayers have already lent money to buy them.
On top of that the pbm, although recieving a healthy profit on the deal, defaults on his lease.
3000 workers apply for positions at HHFL, but still illegal immigrants were employed, and some were then allocated work at Mr Mascoll’s wife’s commercial premises supervised by the pbm.
The poor black man forgets to inform HHFL of this sideline and no invoices were raised for the work done, wages paid or materials used.
Or so says the office supervisor.
The same person who as part of her salary package enjoys a $2000 allowance to spend only at a restaurant owned by a HHFL director nominated by EGFL, (the donors of initial loan and a further $1000000), of which he is also a director.
This seems a very enterprising way of growing one’s funds.
Allegations of sexual harassment and infringement of labour laws beset the pbm and he is demoted.
Is that all there is to it?
Every participant picking their own berry.
Just another day in paradise.
Nothing to see here, move along please.
Brutus // December 9, 2007 at 10:25 AM
The entertainment allowance may have been a way of reducing the tax she would have to pay. However it is not the norm to stipulate where it has to be spent.
Straight talk // December 9, 2007 at 10:30 AM
Et tu, Brutus
Observing // December 9, 2007 at 12:46 PM
If I had any doubt before that this whole issue stinks. It’s clear now. Entertainment allowance ONLY at Aqua which is part owned by Hoyos who is on BOTH boards (EGFL & Hardwood, as if that wasn’t conflict enough already??)
Sigh.
Regarding Carol Phillips she has made her position clear and seems to have evidence and a paper trail to support it.
Neither Mascoll, Murrel, Government, nor EGLF has shown or spoken about any such documentation, either in defense of allegations raised or in support of claims they have made. (oh shoot, sorry, there is ONE picture of Murrell on a family web site).
My God, how can any right thinking principled Member or Parliament and/or representative of the people condone, support or at the very least not stand in opposition to this whole fiasco played out with OUR taxpayers’ money??
This stinks worse than Mangrove.
Velzo // December 9, 2007 at 2:23 PM
I am lost for words!
Wishing in Vain // December 10, 2007 at 12:37 AM
And the scam goes deeper than we first thought, The amazing revelation in todays Nation where this lady could be given an allowance of $ 2,000.00 to be spent at AQUA now let me also suggest that she is not the only one from HARDWOOD HOUSING with an allowance such as this one for use at AQUA, lets us look at the reality of this matter HOYOS as Charirman of HARDWOOD HOUSING, DIRECTOR of EGFL, PARTNER AND DIRECTOR AQUA, and a board member of the Central Bank of Barbados, Now can it be that HOYOS could be part of an arrangement that would permit gov’t funds from EGFL via HARDWOOD HOUSING to be directed to HOYOS private enterprise in gov’t funded allowances at nearly half of this ladies salary.
This is a sickening case of dishonesty in public office carried out with the blessing of the idiot ASSCOLL and HOYOS who is the Chairman of HARDWOOD HOUSING.
Wishing in Vain // December 10, 2007 at 1:26 AM
It was one of the sharpest meetings that I have attended, it was sharp because all the speakers chose an aspect and dealt with it in great detail, there is a feeling that there should be a motion of no confidence in the very poor performance of the Speaker of the house in last Tuesdays sitting where the Leader of the Opposition stated that he was unfairly treated by the speaker of the house, as he stated tonight when he presented a list of names to be called during his presentation this list was refused but ASSCOLL and Liz Thompson were free to name a list of names without ever presenting them to the speaker of the house, as Mr Thompson stated tonight in his opinion the house has now dissolved and they are now ready for the date of the election.
Adrian Loveridge // December 10, 2007 at 5:37 AM
Yet another lie!
’she (Mia Motley) charged that a non-national woman who was employed at Hardwood had tried to get her salary moved from $4,000 to $11,000 a month’.
‘He (Mascoll) saifd the woman, who had a senior position at Hardwood, was fired after she attempted to pay herself and move her salary from $4,000 to $11,000′.
28th October 2007
Daily Nation ‘Fired up’
‘Clearing the air regarding the former director of operations, Carol Phillips, Hoyos said she was fired after refusing to reverse the decision to increase the salaries of two employees after being instructed to do so’.
Monday 10th December 2007
Daily Nation – Hardwood Housing ‘means business’
And the question still remains, WHO approved the $2,000 monthly ‘entertainment allowance’ that could only be used at Aqua Restaurant?
Did the Chairman approve this?
Did the CEO approve?
Did the Board of Directors approve this?
Did the Enterprise Growth Fund Limited approve this?
‘He (Hoyos) told the Press the board of directors and general manager meant business and there was a wealth of experience among them’.
‘We are serious people with a serious business plan, approaching this thing with all the seriousness that is required of a company with this type of plan’
Does a $24,000 per annum ‘entertaintment allowance’ that can only be used in one restaurant, awarded to an employee whose company mission objective is to build houses for poor people, sound like ’serious business’ to you?
Jerome Hinds // December 10, 2007 at 6:21 AM
sound like ’serious business’ to you?
Yes…….serious THIEFING…….!
Where is the voice of FRANKOLOGY & ROYALRUMBLE …….?
They both said David Thompson was DELAYING the No – Confidence Motion !
Jerome Hinds // December 10, 2007 at 6:37 AM
Just as expected……now that the chickens are beginning to come home to ROOST !
Our most ” NEUTRAL ” IMPOSTOR on these BLOGS…..a.k.a FRANKOLOGY…..has disappeared !
Not a comment in the ” comments ” sidebar on the right hand of this screen !
He was saying all along leave the HARDWOOD issue and go for the ABC / FLYOVERS…..just like ASSCOLL told Parliament …..or was it ASSCOLL parading as FRANKOLOGY on these sites …..?
I guess FRANKOLOGY drowned in the AQUA (WATER ! ) RESTAURANT !
Leviticus // December 10, 2007 at 7:09 AM
The Hardwood corruption scandal is the tip of an iceberg. I looked at the picture of Khan and Hoyos today and I realise the extent to which the BLP has lost its PR edge. You can’t run a “poor black man” defence and then have Hoyos and Khan up front.
You think Bajans are idiots?
I am breathless from the Dems meeting last night. That crowd was massive, attentive and in agreement. Barbados is ready for change. Lets get to it.
Observing // December 10, 2007 at 7:15 AM
Jerome, it appears all sympathisers with this issue have disappeared. There’s no need to speculate why. Absolutely no defense can be mounted against the charges as laid, and there’s still more revelatinos coming out of the woodwork.
To try to defend this issue, is to fly in the face of accountability, fairness, transparency and good practices, far less good governance and to do so also implicitly implies a support for the corruption and wastage we’ve seen associated with government projects and taxpayers’ money.
And of course then there’s the clear bias of the Speaker in dealing with the house.
I’ve voted both B and D. Up until November I was an undecided. My ‘X’ is now ready to sound its voice. I advise all others to sharpen theirs.
Leviticus // December 10, 2007 at 7:34 AM
This BLP is a bunch of liars and thieves. Chris Sinckler’s production of the $7,000.00 cheque from the St. Peter Development Fund that was used to get Kelvin Price – Owen Arthur’s brother in law – out of prison dealed it for a number of Bajans at the Dems’ meeting last night.
How could money raised and ear-marked to help develop St. Peter be stolen in this way to support the criminal activities of family members?
that cheque needs to be sent to the Police and the DPP!
Hard Driver // December 10, 2007 at 7:52 AM
I think the PM has two things to do now
1) Call elections …. NOW
2) Pack his bags.
Wishing in Vain // December 10, 2007 at 8:56 AM
Maybe if Owing were to stay off the rum and the corruption he would be in a much better position than he is at present.
How can he blame the Nation for he loosing his grip over them, they are merely bowing to the public pressure to be free, honest and fair in their reporting of matters and if this action happens to expose he and his corrupt gov’t ministers and back benchers so be it, but the people will not rest until elections are call and we are allowed to vote to evict these bastards from around us.
It is also extremely revealing to me to read in the Nation that Hoyos could state that, He said Minister of State in the Ministry of Finance Clyde Mascoll, who is at the centre of a no-confidence motion expected to resume tomorrow in the House of Assembly, had nothing to do with the company now.
“Minister Mascoll plays no role in the factory whatsoever. He may have before, I have no idea I can’t answer to what he did in the formation of the company since I’ve taken over as chairman he’s attended no board meetings,” Hoyos said.
Now in saying this it is an admission that he played a role in the company before but is no longer doing so, so it is confirmed that he was involved for some while in the day to day affairs of HARDWOOD HOUSING.
I also notice that none of the reporters confronted him or made him address the obvious dishonest action of paying a entertainment allowance to staff members to be used at only AQUA this is a company that he is director of receiving a fixed income from a company that he is Chairman of using taxpayers monies of that has been funded by a loaner company that he is director of, in other words he has set about channelling taxpayers hard worked for monies to his private restaurant businness for his benefit and the benefit of Colin Brewer the same one with an inside track to duty free shops at GAIA.
frankology // December 10, 2007 at 10:54 AM
Our most ” NEUTRAL ” IMPOSTOR on these BLOGS…..a.k.a FRANKOLOGY…..has disappeared !
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Goodmorning Jerome and my friends on the blogs. WIV you are on a role.
I also have a life, a wife and children. Anyway, I was following my best vice, motorsports. I was at Bushy Park having a fun time.
Yes, I was adamant in the No-confidence having a swift passage through Parliament. I was and still of the believe that no stones to be place in the way to curtail, delay or place procrastinated elements in the way. I was also angry in the adjournment of the debate to deal with other issues that could have been delayed until the motion is finish.
What I am against is the tactics of refusing to continue the debate in Parliament, using the speaker as an excuse. No speaker in Barbados’ history has been neutral in submission, you will always find some element of partisanship within their deliberations, remember the speaker is still a member of Parliament and is still committed to the party first and foremost.
I prefer to comment on things tangible and not based on innuendos or hearsays.
Please do not confuse the issue of me being Mascoll or Ascoll. I am Frankology at large.
I am NOT associated with the BEES or DEES. I am a free commenter to speak my mind, this is still a democratic country.
frankology // December 10, 2007 at 11:04 AM
He was saying all along leave the HARDWOOD issue and go for the ABC / FLYOVERS…..just like ASSCOLL told Parliament …..or was it ASSCOLL parading as FRANKOLOGY on these sites …..?
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Before any extended discussion with the Hardwood issue, I have insisted that the Veco issue, the ABC expansion and the Law Court development issue should be more on the front burner due the massive outlay in capital. Every day millions of dollars are wasted on possibly disappearing by elements with a penchant of removing state funds. This is why I am adamant in getting investigations going based on economic priorities.
Velzo // December 10, 2007 at 11:54 AM
Why doesn’t Frankology, who is so knowledgeable on everything, provide the information to start the investigation of his other priority issues?
This is a typical political strategy: keep moving the goal post. If you say , I say B. Hardwood is hurting so they want tohe spotlight off of it. But I congratulate the Dems because they had the information, they had the strategy and some covers have been blown.
Priority issues don’t relate to the amount spent. Its the principle that counts.
Velzo // December 10, 2007 at 11:58 AM
What I am against is the tactics of refusing to continue the debate in Parliament, using the speaker as an excuse. No speaker in Barbados’ history has been neutral in submission, you will always find some element of partisanship within their deliberations, remember the speaker is still a member of Parliament and is still committed to the party first and foremost.
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An excuse? The motion was lodged, Thompson laid the charge and the person against whom the charge was laid replied. What debate?
To hear “polished hoe” Liz Thompson? And get- down-to-low-town Owen Arthur?
You can’t hide your stripes Frankology!
Wishing in Vain // December 10, 2007 at 12:09 PM
Frankology is one that is so typical of the membership of the blp, jumping from here there and everywhere when the pressure is applied.
The clown Tony Hoyos is on the call in show making a complete as of himself, he can talk to the cows come home based on the evidence todate I have to side with the lady who was employed by HARDWOOD HOUSING as not a lot of anything coming out of ASSCOLLS or HOYOS’s mouth has been honest or truthful, when Hoyos was just asked who signed the cheques in the past at HARDWOOD HOUSING his reply, senior members of staff no names provided here, when asked why he refused to address the issuse of the lady and her claim that the entertainment allowance was to be used at Aqua exclusively his reply that many things were discussed but this was not one.
He is rambling now addressing the issue of vehicle rentals this is a sad case of bad management and corruption.
4dr14n H1nd5 // December 10, 2007 at 12:28 PM
frankology // December 10, 2007 at 11:04 am
Before any extended discussion with the Hardwood issue, I have insisted that the Veco issue, the ABC expansion and the Law Court development issue should be more on the front burner due the massive outlay in capital. Every day millions of dollars are wasted on possibly disappearing by elements with a penchant of removing state funds. This is why I am adamant in getting investigations going based on economic priorities.
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Wrong on all counts. I bought a house and found one small visible roof leak. This led to an investigation of the entire roof where i was able to find bigger leaks that this not manifest themselves in the traditional way on the the inside ceiling.
The proof of potential malfeasance in a small project such as hardwood, solidifies the need to investigate the larger projects. Before this it would have been a hard sell. An archaeologist digs where he has certainty of finding his artifacts. A hunch does not cut it.
frankology // December 10, 2007 at 12:36 PM
Why doesn’t Frankology, who is so knowledgeable on everything, provide the information to start the investigation of his other priority issues?
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Did you read all my submissions on the highway project?. I questioned the Danos issue, I was appalled of the triple jumpers pertaining to increase costs. I dealt with money being spent on the Bermuda triangle unnecessarily. I lay the foundation for arguments. Can I call a No-confidence motion against Glyne Clarke?
frankology // December 10, 2007 at 12:49 PM
I bought a house and found one small visible roof leak. This led to an investigation of the entire roof where i was able to find bigger leaks that this not manifest themselves in the traditional way on the the inside ceiling
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I purchase a house for 1/2 million and realise the house was on a cliff, half the house disappeared over the cliff. I lost the full 1/2 million and now have to look for 1 million to start over. It is the precedence that matters.
Remember you said, “An archaeologist digs where he has certainty of finding his artifacts”. I say “Thompson digs where he has certainty of finding Mascoll” Ah lie!
Wishing in Vain // December 10, 2007 at 2:09 PM
When one looks at the poll on this site and you realise that when the visitors are asked if I want a Plantation fame Noeless Blarney Muscle Mary Lynch has done agood job running the ministry of tourism or not the result of the poll is 16 said yes he did a good job and 107 said no he has done a bad job.
The question is will the same question be asked of the others including Owing?
4dr14n H1nd5 // December 10, 2007 at 2:23 PM
Frankology: How does your house purchase scenario validates your insistence of investigating ABC and Veco instead of continuing to investigate Hardwood? and so doing in spite of the bounty of malfeasance yield from the investigation?
…..Your house purchase scenario doesn’t only prove the stupidity of the purchaser but the finance company for lending the money without due diligence. In fact you scenario does not mirror reality as it is with house purchasing. Any finance company outlaying that kind of capital would have sought some security in their risk, by requiring adequate insurance on the property, and it fails on this point to be a serious analogy of reality.
On the face of it Hardwood didn’t seem like a glaring case of thieving and corruption that it may now be. Uh mean we didn’t even know that it was a government owned company, and now that the declaration has been made we understand why a company funded by venture capital, from a fund setup with tax papers dollars and overwhich the people via their representatives have no oversight, is now viewed as such.
….. by certainty as oppose to a hunch, I am suggesting that the archaeologist would have investigated historical records pertaining to the artifacts that he is hoping to uncover.
……I don’t think you are fooling anyone with your declaration of non-partisanship. If you truly are it might be time to renew that declaration, as um wearing very thin. :D
Straight talk // December 10, 2007 at 2:40 PM
What’s with the new cryptic handle, Adrian?
Adrian Hinds // December 10, 2007 at 3:10 PM
ha ha ha ha ha The Labourparty blog has banned my use of the Adrian Hinds, …..even if i put my name in the body of my contribution to their blog, it disappears into thin air. As you know when you contribute to multiple WordPress blog, it saves the last name used and auto populate the next “leave a comment” name field with it. nothing sinister.
frankology // December 10, 2007 at 4:23 PM
Frankology: How does your house purchase scenario validates your insistence of investigating ABC and Veco instead of continuing to investigate Hardwood? and so doing in spite of the bounty of malfeasance yield from the investigation?
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The amount of financial yield from malpractice with the said Veco and ABC is that enormous that investigations should have commenced with the ABC issue since 2005 when the overall cost move from $120 million to $140.00 million before anyone dive a single stroke; and this was long before any improprieties with the Hardwood cognitive content. That is why I am speaking of placing priority on this matter before any more unnecessary drainage on the economy. Must I be partisan in my views for action to take place?
frankology // December 10, 2007 at 4:30 PM
……I don’t think you are fooling anyone with your declaration of non-partisanship. If you truly are it might be time to renew that declaration, as um wearing very thin.
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When I sing your tune, everything seems so right, but if I start to question statements that are not conclusive, the guns are drawn. You have to deal with me for whom I am, and not what you want me to be.
4dr14n H1nd5 // December 10, 2007 at 4:56 PM
frankology // December 10, 2007 at 4:30 pm
……I don’t think you are fooling anyone with your declaration of non-partisanship. If you truly are it might be time to renew that declaration, as um wearing very thin.
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When I sing your tune, everything seems so right, but if I start to question statements that are not conclusive, the guns are drawn. You have to deal with me for whom I am, and not what you want me to be.
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It must be much more difficult to prove the case against veco and the ABC project than it has been for Hardwood, and the overly pragmatic Barbadian populace demands no less. There are some, in the face of all the proof so far of Malfeasance at Hardwood have now shifted the requirement to that of a smoking gun.
Wishing in Vain // December 10, 2007 at 5:08 PM
ASCOLL and his fate was decided sometime ago when he was bought out by owing at the expense of mottley and company, it must be extremely amusing to mottley to be sitting and watching he and the PM taking a pounding at the hands of the Opposition Leader Mr David Thompson.
The moraless beast that mia the biter mottley is can still stand and support this crook and vagabond puerly because they want him to win a seat for them, I have news for all of them in that party he and them should be resigning themselves to finding work where ever they can find it because after this next election their services will no longer be required.
When a PM can support the level of stealing, blatant corruption, fruad, bribery and dishonesty as he has and to have made no attempt to address these glaring misfits he to stands charged will a gross neglect of duty, sadly he cannot attempt to censor because he would first have to censor himself !!
How does this get done?
The extent of the arrogance towards the population and callous nature of his management of the affairs of this island leaves us with no choice but to dispose of he and every member of his cabinet in no uncertain terms, VOTE THEM OUT OF OFFICE FIRST AND THEN LET US PROCEED TO CHARGE THOSE THAT NEED TO BE CHARGED WITH CORRUPTION, FRAUD, BRIBERY, MISUSE OF PUBLIC FUNDS, AND THEN MOVE THEM AFTER BEING FOUND GUILTY TO THE BRAND NEW PRISON AT DODDS.
May I also suggest that the search be extended to include the likes of not only Ministers but the likes of the inner circle such as HALLAM NICHOLLS, GLYNE BANNISTER, RODNEY WILKINSON, RICHARD COX, SHOREY ET AL.
Wishing in Vain // December 10, 2007 at 5:16 PM
Adrian, There can be NO DOUBT that ASSCOLL acted beyond the call of duty, this statement is usually associated with positive comments but in this case it is as negative as it can get because, despit what they on that side are prepared to say and do to get a seat they know fully well that he is guilty as charged, but birds of a feather flock together, need I say more?
Wishing in Vain // December 10, 2007 at 5:36 PM
Owing having worked himself into a corner that he is unable to extract himself from is now finding his options for calling an election dissappearing fast and with ech passing day his voting base is being attacked and is declining mainly due to his own actions to attempt to be the DICTATOR and the return of the second HITLER, thank god the people of Barbados have been exposed to his manner and his style and his dishonesty in office just look at who he aligns with to get an idea of what he is about!!!
Wishing in Vain // December 10, 2007 at 7:09 PM
THE PEOPLE DESERVES A CHANCE TO WORK WITH THE DLP
BY REUDON EVERSLEYCHANGE IS EASILY the most dominant feature of modern life. We hear stories daily of how people around the world are coping with change at home, in the workplace, community and country.
Right-sizing, re-engineering and repositioning are among common buzzwords in business parlance. They describe strategies companies are adopting in response to economic, technological and other changes.
Driven mainly by globalisation and other economic and social pressures, change is also forcing individuals to rethink traditional ideas and approaches to work, education and other key aspects of life.
Barbadians once believed a job with Government or certain companies made them set for life. Change has shifted this perspective to the point where there’s gradual acceptance that people are now more likely to hold several jobs in a lifetime.
Change has always been a central feature of the human experience. The only real difference today is the speed and scope. Sometimes you haven’t fully adjusted to one form of change before another comes knocking. Change is everywhere and it’s affecting everyone and everything.
After 13 years of Barbados Labour Party (BLP) rule, the winds of political change are blowing. A significant percentage of the population wants a change of Government.
The BLP has repeatedly reminded Barbadians of the need to change. Yet, a strange scenario now exists, where the BLP is asking to be exempted from change. According to its reasoning, change is fine so long as it doesn’t result in its removal from office.
Changing the Government, Prime Minister Owen Arthur argued last July, amounted to “gambl(ing) with the future . . .”. Ironically, the same argument could’ve been used against the largely inexperienced BLP team back in 1994. Yet they were given a chance. The Democratic Labour Party deserves no less.
“He who rejects change is the architect of decay,” observed former British Prime Minister, the late Sir Harold Wilson. Instead of decay, a change of government offers hope for a beautiful spring of exciting opportunities and possibilities.
A change of government is good psychologically for a country. It proves democracy is alive and well. In Barbados’ case, change surely can answer the growing national cry for a fresh start with new leadership, ideas and approaches.
Change, not more of the same from a tired BLP, is the only meaningful solution for ending the present despair. Embrace the opportunity!
Wishing in Vain // December 10, 2007 at 9:44 PM
Mascoll under DLP fire
Prime Minister Owen Arthur and Minister of State in the Ministry of Finance, Clyde Mascoll, appear to be at odds over economic policy.
That’s according to Opposition Leader David Thompson, who told the DAILY NATION that Government’s economic policy had been thrown into “total disarray” by Mascoll’s statements at a lecture which he delivered at Frank Collymore Hall last Wednesday. He said Mascoll’s suggestion that one could not “pull down prices” by asking people to do so, “flies squarely” in the face of Arthur, who at Government’s recent economic consultation sought to do just that. Thompson added: “His other comment that you have to set the economic environment for pulling down prices, confirms our assertions that there is no prices policy in Barbados, even with a social partnership in place, and that the fulminations of Senator Lynette Eastmond on consumer issues are worth nothing.” The St John MP said Mascoll’s “contradiction” of Arthur’s view that the removal of the cess should bring down prices was yet another example of confusion within the ministry. (Barbados Nation)
Wishing in Vain // December 10, 2007 at 9:51 PM
Arthur is desperate
Posted – Fri Nov 23 2007
Its time for Owen Arthur, Mia Mottley and the leading lights of the Barbados Labour Party come clean on the issue of their obvious impatience with the timing of the Hardwood Housing Inc. scandal debate. We know for sure that it is clear that this issue is interfering with their election calling timetable and that Hardwood and the issue of cost of living could not have come at worse times for this BLP group, Originally, all systems were go for the calling of a mid- December general election. We have disc overed that these plans are to be shelved even though they were discussed at their last meeting of Senators and MPs.
The BLP concern is that they do not want to carry this election too far into the New Year, but they cannot go to the polls with two such major issues unresolved and still hanging over their heads. The public should by now be able to see that they need to throw every possible solution at resolving these two particular issues before the end of this month.
The childish threa t by Leader of the House, Mia Mottley to bring a counter no-confidence motion through the back door was always laughable if it was not so serious coming from a government that wants to temporarily suspend the Barbadian constitution.
Although suc h foolishness was never on the cards because bringing a motion on Hardwood would have made it impossible for the Leader of the Opposition to do the same a few days later. It is David Thompsons motion that goes to the heart of the matter. As the Leader of the Opposition said, If they want to hurry this process and dissolve Parliament before debating Hardwood, thats a matter for them. But I warn that they will have to answer a series of questions from the public platforms.
While Ms. Mottley was i nforming the honourable House and accusing David Thompson of not being ready with his motion, he had long given a copy of the Motion of No-Confidence and the resolution calling for Integrity Legislation, Asset Declaration, Freedom of Information and amend ments to the Defamation Act to the Clerk of Parliament. This is a shame and we hope that parliamentary action will be taken against the Deputy Prime Minister.
The stage is now set for debate on these crucial issues. The No-Confidence Motion was de liberately tied to the accompanying resolution on integrity because we dont just want to discipline Ministers who step out of bounds we also want to set forth to the Parliament and to the people of this country how the Democratic Labour Party, as a gover nment in waiting, will go about repairing the damage that has been done to image of politics and the issue of governance in Barbados.
David Thompson has insisted, and rightly so, that this will not be done in their time.
In his letter to th e Speaker and in a conversation with the Leader of the House, he had already given notice that he was going to be out of the island on private family business towards the end of this week, so it really made no sense for the Leader of the House to have adj ourned proceedings until today. The motion that was given to the Speaker will not be debated today. Its as simple as that. No one is intimidated by Mottleys threats and her silly strategy is now in tatters.
The colourful adjectives and superlativ es used by Owen Arthur, are a reflection of his anxiety and desperation to clean the things to do tray, so as to pave the way for the calling of elections.
Mascoll et al are bungling the Cost of Living issue. This BLP had absolutely no intention of tackling cost of living before the elections, but now that it has been brought into play, they are agitated because they know that this will force them to choose between the interest of the people of Barbados and the interests of their financial maste rs. That is why we insist that that 20 per cent price reduction initiative is a farce that will not last, if ever it comes into operation.
Andrew // December 11, 2007 at 2:21 AM
Heard through the grapevine that pensions are to be increased by 3% next month . The calling of elections will be following closely behind that
Adrian Loveridge // December 11, 2007 at 5:10 AM
Andrew…
Remind me what the annual rate of inflation is?
Wishing in Vain // December 11, 2007 at 8:24 AM
I recently heard on the radio that the DLP have taken the decision not to return to the House of Assembly for the rest of this year in protest about the show of disrespect by mottley and in particular the role of the speaker in this debate.
They have since taken the decision to prosecute ASSCOLL in the public forum minus the benefit of Parliamentary privilege and where they speak with freedom as opposed to the restrictions that were imposed as was the case with the Speaker requesting a list of the names to be called by the Leader of the Opposition and refusing to allow him to called any of the names provided but still on the other hand he allows ASSCOLL and liz thompson to rampage and call whoever’s name they wanted to.
I agree that the halls of Parliament have been corrupted and distorted by this current adminstration and the only option is to prosecute using the only means left at their disposal, that is to talk directly to the people of the Nation,March or to Protest in any other form that they can legally do so.
The best course that the missing from debates owing arthur can take is to take progressive steps and call the election right away.
We are tired and frustrated by our present lack of honesty, trust, and caring by this gang of crooks and criminals.
I suggest if the party decides to hold the meeting tomorrow to further prosecute the crook ASSCOLL that we all turn out in our numbers and show our support for the actions of our Loyal Opposition.
May I also beg you Mr Thompson please let us not ease your willingness to charge all of those that have been involved in dishonesty, bribery, fraud, corruption and those that have raped the treasury, during the life of this current administration, they need to be dealt with and to be dealt with firmly and swiftly.
Wishing in Vain // December 11, 2007 at 8:29 AM
DEMS’ D-DAY
Published on: 12/11/07.
WILL THE DEMOCRATIC LABOUR PARTY (DLP) Members of Parliament (MPs) be attending Parliament this morning?
That’s the question on the lips of Barbadians up to press time last night. DLP MPs were in a special meeting to decide whether or not they would participate
in today’s debate in the House of Assembly.
On Sunday night, Opposition Leader and DLP president David Thompson said he would meet with his colleagues to determine the next course of action.
Before going into a parliamentary group meeting at the Opposition Leader’s Office in Parliament yesterday, he said a decision would be made “tonight” (last night).
Last week, the six-member Opposition team walked out of Parliament protesting the decision to switch the debate from the no-confidence motion against Minister of State in the Prime Minister’s Office Clyde Mascoll over the Hardwood Housing issue, to the Public Service Bill.
Immediately after that walk-out, Thompson and his colleagues called a Press conference and said they were disappointed with the manner in which Speaker of the House Ishmael Roett was conducting matters in the House.
On Sunday night, Senator Freudel Stuart said that if the decision was his, he would not be returning to the House of Assembly tomorrow (Tuesday). “But I am a team man, so I will abide with whatever decision the parliamentary group makes,” he said.
Thompson, too, said he was fed up with the Speaker and was also prepared not to return to Parliament, but would respect the decision of the parliamentary group.
Meanwhile, Leader of Government Business and Deputy Prime Minister Mia Mottley said last night Government was prepared to deal with the no-confidence motion once the DLP members turned up for the debate.
She, however, said that should the Opposition stay away, there were other matters on the agenda which would be debated.
Wishing in Vain // December 11, 2007 at 8:30 AM
I recently heard on the radio that the DLP have taken the decision not to return to the House of Assembly for the rest of this year in protest about the show of disrespect by mottley and in particular the role of the speaker in this debate.
They have since taken the decision to prosecute ASSCOLL in the public forum minus the benefit of Parliamentary privilege and where they speak with freedom as opposed to the restrictions that were imposed as was the case with the Speaker requesting a list of the names to be called by the Leader of the Opposition and refusing to allow him to called any of the names provided but still on the other hand he allows ASSCOLL and liz thompson to rampage and call whoever’s name they wanted to.
I agree that the halls of Parliament have been corrupted and distorted by this current adminstration and the only option is to prosecute using the only means left at their disposal, that is to talk directly to the people of the Nation,March or to Protest in any other form that they can legally do so.
The best course that the missing from debates owing arthur can take is to take progressive steps and call the election right away.
We are tired and frustrated by our present lack of honesty, trust, and caring by this gang of crooks and criminals.
I suggest if the party decides to hold the meeting tomorrow to further prosecute the crook ASSCOLL that we all turn out in our numbers and show our support for the actions of our Loyal Opposition.
May I also beg you Mr Thompson please let us not ease your willingness to charge all of those that have been involved in dishonesty, bribery, fraud, corruption and those that have raped the treasury, during the life of this current administration, they need to be dealt with and to be dealt with firmly and swiftly.
Leviticus // December 11, 2007 at 9:04 AM
I support that position 100%. David Thompson spoke and Mascoll replied. That’s all I need to hear. The matter has been resolved! Mascoll is essentially a man with no moral compass. he is led by a leader who never had one. And they are supported by psychophants who will do anything just to get a quick dollar like Erskine “Cap” Durant, Henderson “Mr. Slime” Bovell and Sylvan “Dishonest” Greenidge.
Margaret Loveridge // December 11, 2007 at 11:32 AM
Leviticus,
Why is Thompson running away from his no confidence motion?
Does he have no confidence in himself?
Adrian Loveridge // December 11, 2007 at 11:40 AM
The last posting under my wife’s name, appears to be from the same person that sent the vile cowardly messages to BFP this morning.
They obviously forget to change the indentification.
Can ANYONE trace the sender?
Wishing in Vain // December 11, 2007 at 12:00 PM
Adrian I provided you with some information on the matter of tracing the source of these wicked postings.
Wishing in Vain // December 11, 2007 at 12:11 PM
My friends this merely the beginning of the threats, the smut, the verbal attacks, the physical attacks, the slime, that is the plan of a desperate ruling party on its last legs and facing the reality that sooner rather than later they will be forced to face the courts of this island for fraud, bribery, stealing, corruption and misuse of taxpayers monies.
What we have to realise is that, this gathering of politicians are the most dishonest bunch ever gathered in the House of Assembly and they themselves know what they have been doing in terms of their extent of the stealing that they have been part of.
They have a real reason to try to fight for power like never seen before in this country, for failure will lead to full exposure of their dishonest actions and by extension their destiny with a date at Dodds.
Iwatching // December 11, 2007 at 12:30 PM
This woman that was fired from Hardwood seem to be a very powerful woman in Barbados. She has brought a whole Government under a microscope.
Was there not a time when this same woman, Mr. Mascoll and Mr. P. Tanniss were big up friends. Maybe they are not such good friends now and that is where the problems come from
Velzo // December 11, 2007 at 1:24 PM
You mean P. Tannis who is on the BLP facebook group? The fella who was fired from First Caribbean?
Wishing in Vain // December 11, 2007 at 1:44 PM
Velzo what you really mean is the FACELESS bunch!!!
I really see no real necessity to return to the House of Assembly to debate this matter, the debate was started and the thing mottley aborted the debate in its wisdom to frustrate the Opposition party, this she achieved and what she did not plan for is that the Opposition’s decision to carry the debate to the masses and take the debate to the streets and every nook and cranny of this island, which in my view has much more impact and meaning and purpose than doing so in a corrupted Parliament of Barbados.
In the public domain ones does not suffer from biased political leanings and you are free to speak the truth without fear of the speaker’s ill informed rulings and his dishonestly against you because you belong to the other side of the fence.
Adrian Loveridge // December 11, 2007 at 1:48 PM
The Hardwood story, judging by the site visit to BU appears to to be the issue of the straw that broke the camels back.
Its not the amount of money, it seems to be the accountability or lack of it.
Many people have attempted to minimise the issues of concern, but it has not worked and there are still questions unanswered.
Perhaps, most importantly, that this has been picked up the more responsible and questioning media overseas.
While, some spin doctors attempt to suppress free speech locally, others pick up on the control techniques and take it to a great level.
Remind me again, what is the listening audience of the BBC Caribbean service?
more // December 11, 2007 at 2:37 PM
I believe it is the blatant contempt with which individuals in government treat the ordinary citizen that has been the last straw.
I still find it unbelievable that all of them on the inside could condone this and not one speak out. Unbelievable! In their ignorance do they not see what they are doing to our great country?
Wishing in Vain // December 11, 2007 at 2:58 PM
What a load of undiluted crap this idiot ASSCOLL is expounding on the radio now, he is an almight idiot.
Iwatching // December 11, 2007 at 6:58 PM
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Velzo // December 11, 2007 at 1:24 pm
You mean P. Tannis who is on the BLP facebook group? The fella who was fired from First Caribbean?
That’s the guyI heard he was fired from Bank of Butterfield too.
Someone must be held accountable for this whole affair. Will Mr. Arthur be able to bell this cat?
4dr14n H1nd5 // December 11, 2007 at 8:23 PM
Wait i thought Patrick Tannis was a big time pastor, holding public pray meetings and thing so? Uh got de wrong body? or it is wunnuh that wrong bout he being fired from a bank?
Jerome Hinds // December 11, 2007 at 9:32 PM
Well the politics of INCLUSION…….has become the politics of IMPLOSION !
Jerome Hinds // December 11, 2007 at 9:35 PM
Silly BILLIE…..moaning now in Parliament….!
Will she speak on behalf of ” Malik wid TEETH “…..?
4dr14n H1nd5 // December 11, 2007 at 9:38 PM
Well the politics of INCLUSION…….has become the politics of IMPLOSION !
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It interesting that you have penned that little jingle, but i think it sums up the end game for the so call politics of inclusion.
My thoughts
Adrian Hinds
November 24, 2007 at 8:48 pm
The politics of inclusion: what will be it’s future?
Let us look at this phenomenon. What are its strengths? What are its weaknesses? The reason why I am attempting to look at this Owen Arthur creation is that like all other things under the sun, there will be a time to live, and flourish, and a time of death and withering away. As I cast mine eyes back to the most recent turmoil in the ranks of the DLP, all the disgruntle folks, who eventually left, and went over to the BLP, had initially join the DLP on their own volition. Crossing over to the BLP happened at a time of plenty in that camp; I think it is safe to say, that the pensions, placements, and patronage, that a PM has, and can dish out, is the real glue, the cement that keeps the recipients of the politics of inclusion in place with the existing members. What can happen in the absence of the power and access or the thing that makes real, the promises of said pensions, placements, and patronage is that their is nothing independent of power that can keep the New BLPites and the true true Bees in a tandem of mutuality. I think that in addition to the fear of prosecution and public embarrassment similar to what is occurring in Jamaica, the eminent fallout of theses oil and water BLPites is by far more disconcerting to Owen for his legacy. That legacy, should he not retain power and thus the ability to keep the heat and fire away from this powder keg of disunity is certain and of concern to him.
The politics of inclusion is not a BLP party initiated phenomenon, it is an Owen Arthur creation, if he is no longer in a position to sustain it, can it survive on its own?
Jerome Hinds // December 11, 2007 at 9:53 PM
Given Clyde ASSCOLL’s role……of personally getting agents to source HARDWOOD from GUYANA and ” holding ” Murrell’s hand……can we expect him to say the following…..?
http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/html/20071210T220000-0500_130273_OBS__I_M_SORRY_.asp
Andrew // December 12, 2007 at 12:02 AM
It Must Be Asked
How can Pastor Tannis, Rev Atherly and a host of other Pastors and Reverends who (by their silence) , seem to be backing this Government, sleep at night?
Doesn’t it matter to them that this Government is steeped in corruption??
How can they get before their congregations, Sunday after Sunday and preach about stealing, lying and fraud, and then join in with this gang of crooks to perpetrate the same??
My Bible says that there is a day coming when they will have to answer to the Supreme Being.
Remember, ‘He who knoweth his Masters will, and doeth it not, shall be beaten with many stripes.
The ‘Tsunami” everyone dreamt about last year,
cometh on Election Day.
Blessed be the name of the Lord!!
Anonymous // December 12, 2007 at 3:05 AM
Andrew,
Deranged idiot.
You fools can keep squawking as much as you like.
The BLP is set to win another LANDSLIDE VICTORY in the next elections.
Anonymous // December 12, 2007 at 3:27 AM
Adrian Loveridge,
“While, some spin doctors attempt to suppress free speech locally… Remind me again, what is the listening audience of the BBC Caribbean service?”
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And here is the Caribbean Report audio clip featuring Adrian Loveridge…. (I will have it recorded for future reference).
http://www.bbc.co.uk/caribbean/
Does the BBC also know that you are a LIAR?
Is the BBC aware of the blogging activities of this same Adrian Loveridge who claims to be impartial?
Does the BBC also know that you are a political activist with a grudge against the current Barbados government which FIRED you several months ago?
Of course you can talk to the BBC and spread as many lies as you like about MY country, but do you think that there are no proud and patriotic Bajans left in Barbados who will rise up against you?
I will remind you of this: the listening audience of the BBC Caribbean report is NOT the same as the eligible voters of Barbados.
And I will promise you this: You will pay dearly for spreading those lies about my country.
Time is longer than twine.
Adrian Loveridge // December 12, 2007 at 4:47 AM
You threaten to kill someone on an almost daily basis.
You threaten to kill their wife, whose name you are now posting comments under.
You threaten to burn down our hotel.
You link your vile cowardly postings to pornographic websites.
And you don’t expect that person to speak out.
I will repeat, I am not and never have been a member of political party.
Even COWARDS like you must appreciate some people have independent minds and thoughts.
Just tell me what was incorrect in the BBC report?
B F P E // December 12, 2007 at 5:25 AM
Adrian Loveridge,
Running scared now, you coward, LIAR?
I will REPEAT the question which BU has deleted…
Why did you tell the BBC what you were a “newspaper columnist”?
Which newspaper do you write columns for?
You LIAR!!!
B F P E
David // December 12, 2007 at 5:39 AM
Adrian we are not sure the impact blogs and other non traditional news sources are having on the court of public opinion in Barbados. We were curious at the some of the comments discussed on the Sunday call-in show of last week when there was a reluctant admission my David Ellis that maybe the inadequacy of the traditional media in a modern climate, where there is a desire to discuss issues without the traditional strictures has created the opportunity for blogs to satisfy this need. Unfortunately his colleugue Dennis Johnson, to our surprise, showed some naivity on the subject.
We only have to look outside of the Caribbean to see how new technology is changing human behavior little by little, by the minute. There will always be room for radio and we are the first to admit that radio is still the most powerful medium for the distribution of information in the world. However people in todays world will tap in more and more to the Internet based media sources because technology now gives them access to this avenue via cellphones/blackberry, acess to Internet etc 24/7 via wireless etc, of importance is the flexibilty to filter and personalize the news based on the interest of the consumer and we could go on.
It is a dynamic which traditional media cannot halt. The sooner they accept this as a fact the sooner they can get on with better defining their role as a key stakeholder in in our future democracy.
This issue of Hardwood Housing is only one of many examples which demonstrates the importance of the blogs. If not for the contributions of BFP and BU to this issue many ‘truths’ would remain in the domain of a chosen few. Although Hardwoods is an important issue we prefer to stay focuss on the BIG picture.
The Voices Of The People Must Be Heard!
Adrian Loveridge // December 12, 2007 at 5:41 AM
Not running and certainly not scared.
There you go again, bringing up the race issue. This will certainly be a hallmark legacy of the current Government.
Who are you going to pick on next, the Jews, Catholics, Methodists?
As you very well know, I wrote a weekly full page column for the Advocate for several years.
Perhaps the BBC are not yet aware that the publisher was threatened that this Government would withdraw any advertising if the newspaper kept printing my column.
I had better call and tell them!
Adrian Loveridge // December 12, 2007 at 5:54 AM
David..
I agree.
Freedom of speech is a passion with me. It comes from spending time in the former Soviet Union and its then satellites.
I am honestly not sure who is behind the various offensive postings and threats, but what do they really think they are going to achieve?
They certainly will not stop me, and as you can see the more they threaten, the larger audience they create for not just me, but web bloggs like BU and BFP.
Its almost as if they want to destroy their own limited credibility.
The Nation, Advocate, CBC and StarCom may all be able to be controlled and censored, but the world doesn’t end there and Barbados Underground has clearly demonstrated that.
Of course, the comments expressed in the BBC Caribbean report programme aired yesterday/today are my personal opinions.
But as a twenty year, taxpaying, voting resident of Barbados I have just as much right to express those views as anyone.
Wishing in Vain // December 12, 2007 at 5:55 AM
The Voice will be heard loudly and clearly, the reality is the regular media has been trapped in a position where the fear of our laws is such that they operate in constant expectation of libel suits lets just look at the sillyness of the NOELESS LYNCH threat to sue VOB the effect was I will pay because I may or may not have said something offensive to the clown but in an effort to avoid court proccedings I will pay you.
The libel and defamation laws are urgently in need of a review and I was happy to see that this was taken into consideration by Mr David Thompson in his motion to the house, until such time that the laws are updated and brought into this century we will continue to have the likes of VOB and the Nation being fearful of what they publish.
I see that the Nation online is rather late today I wonder if they are trying to decide what to put up on the site, is it the Speaker, mottley and Mr millar making idiots of themselves in the house or will it be the DLP press conference and the news of the MASS MEETING tonight in HERO’S SQUARE ?
B F P E // December 12, 2007 at 5:57 AM
Adrian Loveridge,
LIAR!!!
You have not written any newspaper columns for YEARS.
You LIED to the BBC!!!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/caribbean/meta/tx/nb/2115rep_au_nb.ram
Betram Niles: “Hotelier Adrian Loveridge is also a newspaper columnist who says he would like to see good governance in Barbados. He told BBC Caribbean he was trying to see the no confidence motion impasse from both the perspectives of the government and the opposition.”
Adrian Loveridge: “I think there are certainly some unanswered issues with regard to the Hardwood Housing Factory Inc. and some very grey areas involving how the money was spent, how the money was injected into what the public weren’t aware of at the time was a public company owned by the taxpayer or 90% owned by the taxpayer, and I think the opposition has every right to bring up these unanswered matters.”
Betram Niles: “But having brought the matter to parliament shouldn’t the opposition be debating it? Why is there this tugging and fro-ing on this matter?”
Adrian Loveridge: “Well I think that the leader of the opposition Mr. Thompson felt that he didn’t get a fair hearing in Parliament. He felt that the speaker of course a member of the government side, was not totally impartial and I’m afraid I agree with him. He didn’t have the flexibility you thought a leader of the opposition would have to be able to call the motion and debate the motion at a time which was suitable to him.”
Betram Niles: “But the government appeared to have been saying all along that they’re quite willing to have that motion debated.”
Adrian Loveridge: “They said that but did that actually happen? It took two days for the motion to get to the leader of the opposition for his signature and then of course there had to be a particular period, I think three days after the motion was signed that it could be debated so it could never have been debated the first Tuesday that government gave the impression to the public, so when finally they did start to debate it after lunch of last Tuesday’s session they clearly felt they should go on with the motion of no confidence but the leader of government business then sort of stopped the debate and resumed normal government business.”
Betram Niles: “So do you see the governing BLP playing political games with this issue?”
Adrian Loveridge: “I honestly do. I’ve tried to look at it objectively from a non-political point of view and I think the leader of government business having repeated several times the importance of a motion of no confidence should have let the debate continue and give the opposition free and fair opportunity to debate the issues.”
Betram Niles: “But is that enough of a reason for the opposition to walk out of parliament and then decide to stay out of parliament as they are apparently doing?”
Adrian Loveridge: “Well I think the opposition felt that they had the motion on the table and that it should be given the time and the priority that the government had intimated that it should receive and that the Speaker quite clearly showed that he was not as impartial as most of us would think he would have been.”
Jerome Hinds // December 12, 2007 at 6:00 AM
When the ” Poor Black ” boys in Deacon’s Farm as part of the Project Oasis…..cried out for help……where was ASSCOLL ?
We all remember hearing these boys cry out for……seedlings & markets !
We all remember Chris Sinckler’s picture in the press giving these guys an EAR & ASSISTANCE .
Where was ASSCOLL…..?
Oh I almost forgot……there were too many BOYS On the BLOCK involved in this Project Oasis….!
ASSCOLL only interested in helping the……. POOR BLACK MAN……!
David // December 12, 2007 at 6:08 AM
We should all remember that two Fridays ago the lower house was suspended after 30 minutes because the government refused to table govermnent business after Thompson indicated he was not prepared to move forward with his private members motion of no confidence. The goverment at that time publicly demonstrated that there was no ‘pressing’ government business by this action.
To curtail the debate on the no-conficdence debate in the way that is unfolded is therefore no consistent with this lack of urgency. Both sides can be accused of engaging in some element of philobusting.
The story here is which party has benefited and will continue to benefit as this story unfolds AND HOW WILL THE POLITICALLY SAVVY AND VETERAN ARTHUR RESPOND?
B F P E // December 12, 2007 at 6:10 AM
Why did Adrian Loveridge LIE to the BBC and claim that he is a “newspaper columnist”?
B F P E
Anonymous // December 12, 2007 at 6:14 AM
Adrian Loveridge,
“Of course, the comments expressed in the BBC Caribbean report programme aired yesterday/today are my personal opinions.”
Of course it is your personal opinion that you are still a “newspaper columnist”.
Why should a NOTORIOUS LIAR like you be concerned about such minor details as telling the truth?
Margaret Loveridge.
Adrian Loveridge // December 12, 2007 at 6:44 AM
Listen very carefully.
I did NOT say to the BBC on this occasion I was a columnist so I have not lied at all.
‘90,000′ long stay visitors during CWC Final Week
plus
‘70,000 crusie passengers’
‘700 yachts’
‘500 houses built in Grenada’
Why don’t you focus on the people who are ACTUALLY lying?
Anonymous // December 12, 2007 at 6:56 AM
Adrian Loveridge,
“I did NOT say to the BBC on this occasion I was a columnist so I have not lied at all.”
“On this occasion” you simply “misrepresented” yourself. Deceit with intent. That’s your specialty.
LIAR!!!!
It has been posted on the B F P E blog, and we have also informed the BBC.
Jerome Hinds // December 12, 2007 at 7:30 AM
Adrian Loveridge……do not expend your energy responding to those BLP HARLOTS who continue to PROSTITUTE their ” good sense ” in their DEBASED profession !
What those HARLOTS need to UNDERSTAND…..is this
THEY CANNOT WANT A FIRST WORLD SOCIETY……WHERE THE RIGHT TO DEMAND……..ACCOUNTABILTY & GOOD GOVERNANCE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO FLOURISH !
Educated Barbadians WILL not stand for that !
HARDWOOD…..GREENLAND…..FBI REPORT….ST. JOSEPH HOSPITAL REPORT….CBC…..ABC HIGHWAY…..the list can go on for another…..100 YEARS !
Anonymous // December 12, 2007 at 7:39 AM
Adrian, Just ignore this joker. He is being paid by the BLP to disrupt the blogs. By engaging him you are giving him credibility he does not deserve.
Observing // December 12, 2007 at 8:18 AM
After all this, to suspend the motion after the two principals and only one other has spoken leaves no doubt in my mind as to who is really running from the motion. If I were a member of government, after Liz Thompson’s contribution I wouldn’t want to risk any others on my side speaking.
And still no real response to the allegations raised in the motion.
Adrian Loveridge // December 12, 2007 at 9:00 AM
Just after appearing on the Down to Brass Tacks programme with David Ellis earlier this week, Tony Hoyos called me and we discussed a number of issues.
We have to remember that he took over as Chairman of HHF inc, fairly late in the day.
There are still a number of issues that concern me, and I will list them and hope that Mr Hoyos uses BU to respond.
1) The initial business plan (agreed by Mr Hoyos) appears to be totally unrealistic for the company’s stated objectives and we are left to wonder, who put it together and who agreed to recommend it to the Enterprise Growth Fund.
2) I still have concerns over this equipment/plant/vehicles being leased by Mr Murrell and then leased or invoiced back to the company at a much higher cost.
I believe Mr Hoyos should better explain this and produce the actual lease documents and copy invoices.
After all, it is the publics money.
I really cannot understand how Mr Murrell could obtain better rates or terms than the company (HHF Inc.)
3) This $2,000 per month ‘entertainment allowance’ still worries me. And after speaking to Mr Hoyos, I understand that both Mr Murrell and Ms Philips received it.
It’s a company whose mandate is to build lower cost housing for poorer people.
Who on earth would they have to entertain?
Mr Hoyos assured me that this genuine objective was to turn around the company financially and achieve its original mission statement.
For now, I am going to take him at his word.
But, this whole issue, should leave the Government in no doubt that many of us are looking for FAR more transparency in their dealings.
Anonymous // December 12, 2007 at 9:12 AM
Article on the BBC website should interest those doubting Thomases
http://news.bbc.co.uk/
Mightier than pens
Blogs turn out to be better at beating Mid-East swords
Wishing in Vain // December 12, 2007 at 9:23 AM
Also Adrian he needs to state for what reason people he sought out their involvement in the sourcing of supplies, why if ASSCOLL was not seen as the AGENT of HARDWOOD HOUSING was he referred to as such in the communications that they had?
David // December 12, 2007 at 9:32 AM
Adrian L can we suggest that to pay the allowance to benefit from the tax break is understandable but to mandate that the allowance be utilized at Aqua restuarant is disturbing.
Was the $2,000.00 allowance given to the individuals before or after Tony Hoyo’s appointment as Chairman?
Is it still in position given Mr. Murrel’s demotion?
We are sorry Adrian but it is clear this transaction was managed losely from inception with regard to the management of Hardwoods Factory Housing. Let it be known that we have absolutely no problem with the concept and a check of the Enterprise Growth Fund will highlight some of the good work they have done to encourage small and medium size businesses to get a start.
Able-2-b-Able // December 12, 2007 at 12:17 PM
Here goes VOB again today December 12, 2007 on” Down to Brass Tacks” A M callin program. They have one telephone line for BLP CALLERS and one telephone line FOR DLP CALLERS. Now as citizen we must have labels rather than views. All of this in the name of NEW found needs for BALANCE. Where was the same license issues in the early nineties. Why dont they advocate for a license that allows them to host Call-in Programs. I think people should be offended to have to take a BLP or DLP position in this country. What next!. Things are only get better ..or will they?
Wishing in Vain // December 12, 2007 at 3:01 PM
Folks do not forget the MASS POLITICAL MEETING TONIGHT AT HERO’S SQUARE STARING AT 7.00 PM.
We need to meet , hear and learn the truth about ASSCOLL and HIS HARDWOOD HOUSING FIASCO.
Anonymous // December 12, 2007 at 4:28 PM
Able2bAble
Say thanks to David Ellis for that crap.
He has sunk to the bottom in my estimation.
I am sure that this is not any directive from management but is predicated on his FEAR and his sickening desire to SUCK-UP to the BLP.
He panders to them TOO much.I don’t know why he just can’t be a man for a change.
Inkwell // December 12, 2007 at 4:58 PM
In the interest of what now seems to be a bad word, “balance” and in defense of David Ellis (not that he needs my help), he did say that there was one number for those supporting the DLP cause, another for those supporting the BLP and a third line, in fact as I recall two lines for those who had no agenda. You people only hear what you want to hear. Ellis did not say or imply that callers had to take a position, B or D.
Straight talk // December 12, 2007 at 5:25 PM
The problem was that an ordinary non-partisan caller, with sincere questions about the facts surrounding the Hardwood situation was treated as a DLP yardfowl and talked over by an increasingly desperate Ellis as he walked on eggshells.
If the ordinary public cannot air their serious concerns on a call-in show that is an affront to our free speech.
“Free and frank discussion”!
Change that tagline, it’s funnier than you Market Vendor
David // December 12, 2007 at 5:42 PM
VOB management is on record as spouting a policy of when in doubt leave it out. Their preocupation with ‘toeing’ the line clearly contradicts the historical role of the media in protecting democracies around the world.
The conservative and resident producer Michael Browne is clearly earning a reputation for following the directive of Vic Fernades to the letter. The sorry situation makes a mockery of the Barbadian public whose support of the callin program, reaching back to Frank Pardo’s/Share has given it the popularity and the massive revenue stream which Starcom now enjoy.
Is it not conceivable that Starcom should have unleased significant resources on this Hardwood Affair and make facts available to the public to remove the controversy from being in the sole relm of the political arena?
Truly a good case of betrayal.
frankology // December 12, 2007 at 7:33 PM
VOB management is on record as spouting a policy of when in doubt leave it out.
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David, it is not VOB only, this is the hallmark for all medias, this is to protect them from libel and is used as a yardstick for all practising journalists. This has nothing with toeing of any line, we do not have liberal laws like Trinidad within the media. Even in Trinidad, they laws regarding advertising by competetive companies, allow both companies to call one another name to justify a statement. In Barbados, that is a no no. What we need is the liberalism of our libel laws, that will free-up the constant deletion of libelous statements during the various call-in programs.
You speak of betrayal, I say it is protectionism on their part. Hardwood at the moment is too sensitive for any fourth estate or the electronic media to make statements unless these statements can be substantiated. We might have heard of the Noel Lynch/VOB payout, but almost delay, the media pays out thousand of dollars in out-of-court settlement. That is a fact that cannot be challenged.
Blogs at the moment do not have the policing like the medias of the day, but possibly, some international agency might have or working on systems to monitor information place on the Internet; and you know, those libel-hungry lawyers will be just waiting to pounce on the unsuspecting free-writing I-do not-care-what-I write commenters.
frankology // December 12, 2007 at 7:50 PM
Adrian Hinds, you are quite knowledgeable with certain legal matters and you express your views without partisan views. I spoke earlier of the liberalism of the media companies, what we as a country need to also liberalise our judiciary system which needs a total overhaul. A simple case is the policing of our roads where tickets are issued and the offenders do not pay. Also people are reported today and the case being called months, even years. This is totally unfair to the officers of the Police Force.
My suggestion is to free-up the court systems by allowing Justices of the Peace to deal with these minor offenses where the answer is either “yes” or “no” . If the offender states “not guilty”, the case can be transverse to the Magistrate Courts.
With this quick movement of justice, nuff money will be in the Government coppers weekly. Sorry ZRs, your take home pay will be affected.
Straight talk // December 12, 2007 at 8:00 PM
Frankology:
The more you comment, the more the sheep’s clothing falls off your BLP back.
You may have been sent in to these blogs as a fifth column, but your justification of the shameful negligence of the fourth estate makes your true allegiance plain for all to see.
Do you want all Barbadians to be “protectionist” and keep quiet in the face of repeated assaults on our treasury and democracy.
Be good, keep quiet and we won’t take you to our courts.
Where will that lead?
Have you read The Defamation Act?
It needs urgent revision, but it still maintains the freedom to speak the truth.
A libel case can be a double edged sword for any litigant against a determined defendant with truth on his side.
Anonymous // December 12, 2007 at 8:26 PM
I not long passed through the city and noticed a DLP meeting in Heroes Square.
I don’t know which was more pitiful… the sparse dozens of people standing about listening as if they were dead bored… or the many more Bajans going about their business in the city who walked right past and paid it no attention whatsoever.
Poor Dems.
But not to worry… liars like Wishing in Vain and Adrian Loveridge will soon come to report that there was a MASSIVE turnout.
Pathetic!
Anonymous // December 12, 2007 at 8:29 PM
David,
“Truly a good case of betrayal.”
Quit your foolish moaning about anyone who doesn’t share your DLP sympathies.
When the next election comes, you will be crying like a baby and WE WILL BE LAUGHING AT YOU.
Anonymous // December 12, 2007 at 9:28 PM
I truly believe Michael Brown has BLP connections – I based this on observations of his dealing ,that is,his bias against pro-Dlp callers.
I wonder if those BLP apologists could explain how come during the Sandiford years VOB didnot have these many rules,and were not cutting off callers as they are doing now.
People said what they wanted about Mr Sandiford and others Dlpites with much more freedom – where was the defamation act then VOB?
In addition they didnot have to deal with the threat of law suits as they have to do with the BLP politicians.
Obviously the Blp people are using these law suits as a weapon against VOB to keep them in check.
VOB willingly complies.
Why does David Ellis insist labelling callers who criticise the administration as Dlp callers – can’t they be independent.
For example,I believe adrain Loveridge is a fine example of an independent – he speaks out against wrongdoing as he sees it – and most importantly he backs it up with facts.
However in David Ellis mind he will be seen as a DLP party supporter and all that he says will be prejudiced by Ellis constantly interjecting and making that claim of partinsanship.
.It seems that the position of Independent is non existent these days.
I think Gary Druesbury would weep to see where VOB has gone to today.
The excuse of a radio license and the Defamation Act is only a cover to hide behind the true explanation – cowardice and BLP pandering by the station.
frankology // December 12, 2007 at 11:47 PM
Do you want all Barbadians to be “protectionist” and keep quiet in the face of repeated assaults on our treasury and democracy.
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First of all, you are missing the point pertaining dto my statements, but again, your partisan ideology is blinding you from accepting facts of life. Secondly, I never mentioned Barbadians per se as albeit of “protectionism”, I was dealing with the media houses who are being careful with certain defamatory statements and are definitely trying to avoid unnecessary libels.
Remember, a libel do not matter if the statement is the truth, but it deal with how it affect the person(s), and once that person(s) can prove that the statement caused undue pain or suffering, that person(s) will be compensated.
frankology // December 12, 2007 at 11:52 PM
The more you comment, the more the sheep’s clothing falls off your BLP back.
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Do you see any political language within my statement. I was pointing out what is really happening within the media world.
Anonymous // December 13, 2007 at 12:10 AM
Anonymous,
“For example,I believe adrain Loveridge is a fine example of an independent – he speaks out against wrongdoing as he sees it – and most importantly he backs it up with facts.”
Adrian Loveridge is a LIAR. He is NOT a newspaper columnist.
Anonymous // December 13, 2007 at 12:16 AM
“For example,I believe adrain Loveridge is a fine example of an independent – he speaks out against wrongdoing as he sees it – and most importantly he backs it up with facts.”
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I nearly forgot how Adrian Loveridge comes to these blogs and under different names to praise himself.
He is a LIAR and a FRAUD.
Wishing in Vain // December 13, 2007 at 12:26 AM
Funny how life can be, I attended the meeting held by the the DLP at HERO’S SQUARE and despite the threat of rain there was not a drop to complain about but what we had was an intense 4 hours of thoughtful discussion with the Nation well done to the DLP for a job well done.
Observing // December 13, 2007 at 6:43 AM
So here come the meeting questions / allegations….
Hardwood information was passed onto the personal assistant of the Deputy Prime Minister
The DPP was invovled in trying to acquire land for Hardwood
The Speaker of the House refused to allow Thompson to call certain names during the debate on the 4th.
Any thoughts guys?
Straight talk // December 13, 2007 at 7:04 AM
Has anyone checked out who’s involved with A&B Rentals?
Brutus // December 13, 2007 at 8:00 AM
Hmmmm….
2008 Housing boom possible
Web Posted – Thu Dec 13 2007
By Shawn Cumberbatch (Barbados Advocate online)
SOME projects are behind schedule and others faced with problematic contractors, but 2008 will be a boom for housing in Barbados.
Minister of Housing and Lands Reginald Farley made that declaration yesterday after touring Bulkeley Meadows, a middle income housing project being jointly undertaken by the National Housing Corporation (NHC) and South Park Limited in St. George.
http://www.barbadosadvocate.com/NewViewNewsleft.cfm?Record=33969
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Date February 15, 2007 (Nation News)
Brief 17 000 house hunters
by CAROL-ANN TUDOR
THERE ARE 17 000 applications at the National Housing Corporation (NHC) from people seeking both land and houses.
Minister of Housing and Lands Reginald Farley made the disclosure yesterday at the launch of the Hardwood Housing Factory Inc. at Six Roads Industrial Park, St Philip.
Brutus // December 13, 2007 at 8:39 AM
Hmmm….
FAST TRACK
Published on: 12/13/07. (Nation News)
by YVETTE BEST
THE DAYS of waiting half-a-year for a completed wall home should soon be a thing of the past.
Minister of Housing Reginald Farley said yesterday Government would be working with a new company to deliver four finished wall houses a week.
He said big things were expected from Caribbean Homes Company, which was building a concrete manufacturing housing plant in St Philip.
http://www.nationnews.com/story/7278135423053.php
Adrian Loveridge // December 13, 2007 at 8:43 AM
‘1,000 houses to be bult in 2008′
A simple question:
How many houses has this Government built over the last 13 years?
David // December 13, 2007 at 8:52 AM
Interesting that Minister Farley is pontificating about the prospects of working with Caribbean Home Company to build affordable housing.
Why did he allow Mascoll to carry the flag alone on Hardwoods notwithstanding that his Ministry and the Enterprise Growth Fund has a relationship.
Velzo // December 13, 2007 at 10:21 AM
An e-mail has been making the rounds in response to comments about the standards of the media ion Barbados from Ezra Alleyne. It is required reading.
Further, the Privy Council’s interpretation of the interaction between the Constitutional right to freedom of expression (in Barbados and rest of the
Caribbean) and the Defamation law shows that the Courts are prepared to support journalists who practise what the Courts are calling “responsible journalism”.
See for example Gordon v Panday and Bonnick v Morris. In the latter case, the public figure was actually defamed ( some allegations of the journalist having been shown to be untrue) but the Privy Council held that the journalist had practised responsible journalism and so the injured party could not recover any damages!
In the result, even if a public figure is defamed by the journalist; the Courts will, it seems, allow the constitutional right to freedom of expression to “trump” the right to reputation, and the journalist thereby escapes the payment of damages for the “offending” statement. The justification is the public interest in the scrutiny of public figures in a democracy by the Fourth Estate, which is acknowledged to be an essential and “responsible” element in the system of governance
It is wrong to blame the defamation laws of the Island for bad journalism.
The “new” law is the Defamation Act 1996. It repeals the ancient and troublesome legal traps in the old law of libel and slander, and places Barbados almost on par with the USA in terms of the seminal ruling in the “public figure” case of Sullivan -v-New York Times.
Some journalists simply cannot write well, or at all, and they compound the felony by ignoring the basic law relevant to the profession of which they
(misleadingly) claim to be members.
As I said, I write “weekly” and advise “daily.”
Ezra Alleyne”
I think one can better understand what is happening in Barbados. The Nation carries a column by Ezra Alleyne attacking the DLP every week. They also use him as their “impartial” Attorney at Law to vet DLP columns, statements, ads etc. that are submitted to the Nation!
The reason why I feel good today is because I see David Thompson and the Dems are fighting for what is fair and right! At last I feel as if someone will fight for me despite all the stumbling blocks being put in their way!
Wishing in Vain // December 13, 2007 at 10:29 AM
After much back and forth’s to the source of the information being provided, when ASSCOLL in his mouthing’s stated the reason that Mr. Thompson was in pocession of all this information was that the poor lady that he ASSCOLL condoned Murrell molesting was the provider of this information because they had fired her.
It now turns out to be another piece of ASSCOLL inept ability and his stupidity.
As it was revealed last even that this destructive information came from within the bust of the BLP and that it came from the PERSONAL ASSISTANT OF THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER.
Now that is a blow from within we must also question the motive of this action and it is clear for a blind man to see, we have been saying all along that there is no love lost between mottley and Owing and there is no love lost between mottley and ASSCOLL and this revelation clearly exposes the rift that the blp has brewing and the pent up hatred they have for one another.
For me mottley is desperate person and she is behaving in such a manner, all the while making the division clearer and clearer within the party to the point that they are about to implode (lord help us if something like mottley were to explode what a mess that would create) so to implode would be the desired result, when this event takes place the entire party will be shaken by the event as we are already seeing.
We also have the confirmed news of another St. Peter Development fund CHEQUE taking wings and flying around and with the best of navigation systems complete with an auto land feature it made its arrival on the desk of a DLP candidate, on this occasion this CHEQUE is no small money like the one that Owings’s wife quietly and secretly wrote from the St.Peter Development Fund cheque book for $ 7,000.00 to keep her brother out prison, this new one makes that cheque pale by comparison, more on that once the runway opens up and the clearance for departure of this evil gang of crooks is given, it will be full throttle in the corner and sit back for a ride of your lives ladies and gentlemen.
ps My suggestion is anyone with anything to reveal with regard to owing and his gang of 40 thieves they should feel free to contact he leadership of the DLP where these things can be discussed in a confidential manner.
H1nd551ght // December 13, 2007 at 11:29 AM
I have long held the view that the information Owen’s check deposit came from Mia Mottley. I know the woman well, she is the most vendictive person there is Barbados, only because i no longer live there. :D and there is no way that she would have changed overnight to allow Owen Arthur to get away for what he did to her. No way. Unlike Clyde she will suffer and give apperances to be a team player while working towards getting back at Owen, it’s her style, it’s my style.
……However the DLP should be carefull taking info from whatever sources. I still believe that that core stratagey of the BLP is to engineer a “fuhcup” within the DLP, and one such way is to get credible looking but nevertheless false information into Thompson and DLP hands, then to go public with it, likening it unto the IMF secret deal report. Be cautious, thread carefully.
FBI // December 13, 2007 at 11:31 AM
Wishing in Vain,
Keep it up.
A pathetic idiot such as you is a good thing for the BLP.
Your idiotic mouthings do nothing but damage to the DLP.
B F P E // December 13, 2007 at 11:33 AM
H1nd551ght,
“I still believe that that core stratagey of the BLP is to engineer a “fuhcup” within the DLP, and one such way is to get credible looking but nevertheless false information into Thompson and DLP hands, then to go public with it…”
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We do that to BFP all the time.
It’s great fun!
:-)
B F P E
Wishing in Vain // December 13, 2007 at 11:47 AM
It certainly appears to me that the blp are a party on their way out thru the door.
Suddenly the wholesale willingness to expose Owing and his entire gang of crooks is coming at a fast and furious rate, it is coming from all quarters and in all forms.
it even seems his former good friend is now also looking for holes as well, this the man that collects a commission on everything imported into the island for the gov’t right down to the two recently purchased Coast Guard vessels he is reported to have recently stated that he stop counting his bank account when it got to $ 25 million, so disgusting and such a snake he is that a recent donation coming from INNOTECH to be directed to the blp was not passed on to the party he is now trying to switch sides but it is not working.
The party does not need the likes of the HALLAM NICHOLLS’S of this world to disgrace the good work that they have done without scandal and disgrace.
B F P E // December 13, 2007 at 12:01 PM
Wishing in Vain,
I noticed the funniest thing last night while walking through Palmetto Square on my way out of the city. There was a DLP meeting going on in nearly Heroes Square and I noticed a large screen with a man shouting and carrying on. I got to my car and drove around the Treasury Building and went through the alley to go back up Broad St. to get a better look, and I heard him screaming things like “We are the chosen few!” and so on. The crowd was so sparse you could look through it and see pedestrians on the other side of the street. But most amazing was that there were more people relaxing and going about their business in Palmetto Square than the number of people assembled at Heroes Square, and the pedestrians and passers-by in both areas were walking past and going about their business as if nothing was happening!
Poor pathetic DLP.
You people need serious help.
You are not going to win any upcoming election in Barbados with such low levels of interest from the Barbadian public.
Poor Adrian Loveridge. All his efforts gone to waste.
Bunch of LOSERS!!!!
B F P E // December 13, 2007 at 12:24 PM
What I saw last night in Heroes Square is exactly what I see on BU and BFP… Wishing in Vain and Adrian Loveridge screaming themselves hoarse making all sorts of ridiculous accusations and LIES while the MAJORITY OF BAJANS pay you clowns no notice whatsoever.
Bunch of desperate LOSERS!!!!
:-)
Wishing in Vain // December 13, 2007 at 12:27 PM
To respond to you the idiot is a waste of energy, but let me clearly suggest to you that the CROWD that attended the MASS MEETING was a very large one and made even larger by the fact that this meetings was on a WEDNESDAY a MIDWEEK meeting held after a day’s notice it was a wonderful meeting, more importantly respond to why is mottley undermining the idiot ASSCOLL as she is doing now with providing all this information on HARDWOOD HOUSING that is what we want to see you respond to not you crap.
B F P E // December 13, 2007 at 1:07 PM
Wishing in Vain,
When I drove by along the Constitution River side I could look through the small crowd in Heroes Square and see people walking along the pavements by the Parliament building.
When I turned onto Broad St. and drove back up along the Parliament building I could also see through the crowd.
There was no massive crowd there at the time I passed… not even a sizeable crowd.
Why don’t you PRODUCE A PHOTO of your massive crowd as evidence? I challenge you to do so. You people should have photographers, right?
Of course, producing evidence of anything is something the DLP has never been good at.
I should have taken a photo with my camera-phone and posted it online for the world to see.
Idiot!
frankology // December 13, 2007 at 1:39 PM
What I saw last night in Heroes Square is exactly what I see on BU and BFP… Wishing in Vain and Adrian Loveridge screaming themselves hoarse making all sorts of ridiculous accusations and LIES while the MAJORITY OF BAJANS pay you clowns no notice whatsoever.
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You do not have a conclusive analytical mind to determine the outcome of this upcoming election, you might be surprise of the amount of viewers to these blogs, and you might be even surprise if the DLP wins the election, so if I were you, I would keep far from being judgmental. You are showing the same partisan support like WIV, so do not throw rocks when you have a glass door.
H1nd551ght // December 13, 2007 at 1:41 PM
B F P E // December 13, 2007 at 11:49 am
H1nd551ght,
At BFPE, we have developed various strategies of disruption, subversion, infiltration and cyber-attacks against the BFP blog, so we perfectly understand what you are talking about.
Subterfuge and sabotage is our main business.
Regards.
B F P E
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Really? this is the first time i have notice your label or postings on this site, and i have only done so this time because i say my lebel in one of your post. Wow i had no idea what you where up too. :D so you think it’s working? :D and i thought Rockwell was in the USA. :D
Bajan Citizen // December 13, 2007 at 2:15 PM
H1nd551ght,
“this is the first time i have notice your label or postings on this site,”
We change names as often as the wind changes speed and direction. And this BU blog is not our base of operations.
Please go to….
barbadosfreepressexposed.wordpress.com
That’s our public relations front…. feel free to browse our SUBVERSION: TIPS, TRICKS, TACTICS AND TECHNIQUES section.
But most of what we do is clandestine, of course.
Regards.
B F P E
Wishing in Vain // December 13, 2007 at 2:29 PM
David, what are we doing about these nonsense posting that are appearing they need removing.
Wishing in Vain // December 13, 2007 at 3:06 PM
Thank God we do not get all the gov’t that we pay for!!!!
H1nd551ght // December 13, 2007 at 3:15 PM
Bajan Citizen // December 13, 2007 at 2:15 pm
H1nd551ght,
“this is the first time i have notice your label or postings on this site,”
We change names as often as the wind changes speed and direction. And this BU blog is not our base of operations.
Please go to….
barbadosfreepressexposed.wordpress.com
That’s our public relations front…. feel free to browse our SUBVERSION: TIPS, TRICKS, TACTICS AND TECHNIQUES section.
But most of what we do is clandestine, of course.
Regards.
B F P E
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I can’t get to it, somebody must be blocking me from getting to it. :D
Fred // December 13, 2007 at 3:57 PM
I am now learning from a very good source that the date for the elections are no longer a rumour, the Electoral and Boundaries commission have gone into a massive overdrive and the notice of a date maybe coming as soon as later today after the cabinet meeting ( maybe we will here that Owen has fired Mascoll at this cabinet meeting).
It will certainly be announced by the latest this weekend.
Wishing in Vain // December 13, 2007 at 4:42 PM
It would be fair to say that with the interest in the gang of thieves waning and the undue and constant pressure that the DLP have applied to Owing and his 40 thieves they have found themselves in a tighter and tighter space to the point where they have worked themselves into a straightjacket with no place to go and no room to perform his skullduggery.
I would certainly like to thank the good people of the DLP for their lively encounters and their exposure of the dishonesty, corruption, fraud, bribery, sexual molestation and rape of this island.
It is now over to us the ones that have been taking the shaft for the past few years to wake up and say in ONE LOUD VOICE we have had enough of your DISHONESTY and you RAPE we want a new perspective we want new leadership with a fresh vision and a fresh team to lead us out of the doldrums that Owing has sailed us into.
I honestly get the distinct impression that Owing is now of the belief that he is playing with a wounded pack and he has no care to want to see the blp win again and to see mottley override his authority and even oust him from office, hence his best plan of action is to oversee a failure at the polls this time around, as he has had his time in power and he has made his millions but he will not allow the thing called mottley achieve glory at his expense, why do you think that mottley has only accepted to assist in the campaign in the seats around her these are the ones that support her for the post of PM she is only firming up her power base within the group.
~B~F~P~E~ // December 13, 2007 at 7:30 PM
H1nd551ght,
“I can’t get to it, somebody must be blocking me from getting to it.”
Really? You must be the only person to make such a report, but don’t worry…. our blog is there purely for informational purposes…. our ATTACKS on BFP will continue unabated.
~B~F~P~E~ // December 13, 2007 at 8:44 PM
frankfoology,
You do not have a conclusive analytical mind to determine the outcome of this upcoming election, you might be surprise of the amount of viewers to these blogs, and you might be even surprise if the DLP wins the election, so if I were you, I would keep far from being judgmental. You are showing the same partisan support like WIV, so do not throw rocks when you have a glass door.
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What do you know about anybody’s mind, you bloody clown?
As for “the amount of viewers to these blogs”, please spare me and stop spewing such piss.
I have already told BFP the same thing I will tell you or BU… I challenge EITHER of these blogs to call a mass meeting any night at any place in Bridgetown. Guess what? … NOBODY WILL COME!
IDIOT!
~B~F~P~E~
frankology // December 13, 2007 at 10:53 PM
Within ten words of your first paragraph, I can see that you are subject to psychoanalytic behaviour. How on earth can you explode in a manner due to someone questioning your statements. If you are representing the party and getting on like that, if I was Owen, I would disassociate the party from you.
Your mind is so warp that you challenging blogs to call a mass meeting. Why would a blog call a meeting. The blogs are not Political Parties, these blogs only disseminate news and views.
By the way, I just log in to your under -utilised site for the first time and someone used my blog name – Frankology within Happy Birthday Barbados.
I am publicly denouncing the statement under my name in BFPE. Your site is one SICKO for Blogging. Clean up your act now.
~B~F~P~E~ // December 14, 2007 at 1:32 AM
frankfoology,
“I am publicly denouncing the statement under my name in BFPE. Your site is one SICKO for Blogging. Clean up your act now.”
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That’s some sweet free advertising.
Thanks!
~B~F~P~E~
Wishing in Vain // December 14, 2007 at 3:20 AM
I think if he calls it now or later the result will be the same it will be a victory to the DLP and why will this be simply because of three term arrogance and the gross neglect of the people that matter the working class while cuddling up under the breast of the rich and famous, not the most likely reason is the rape that this gang have carried out against every man woman and child while bulking up his bank account and the bank account of his good and close inner circle of friends.
Wishing in Vain // December 14, 2007 at 3:24 AM
Now if ever we can clearly state and withness political bias in the media, go have a look at the Nation online page where it displays and advertisement for the blp to watch the blp web tv and watch owing’s nomination.
Did we ever really doubt their leanings???
Wishing in Vain // December 14, 2007 at 3:29 AM
frankology You have skillfully passed on the point that I have decided to ignore you and if you would like to know why it is for the following reasons I have found you to attempt to bully people into your way of thinking or no way, it may work in your party but it fails badly in general, you adopt a spoilt chil approach to most matters if you do not like they way the discussion is unfolding your behave like a spoilt child and thirdly I have found you to be a compulsive liar and I have no time for persons of that ilk.
Wishing in Vain // December 14, 2007 at 3:35 AM
Now we can clearly state political bias does exist in the media and to a very large extent.
Go have a look at the Nation online page where it displays and advertisement for the blp to watch the blp web tv and watch owing’s nomination.
Did we ever really doubt their leanings???
Adrian Loveridge // December 14, 2007 at 5:18 AM
An interesting piece by Peter Wickham on BBC Caribbean report for those that have not heard it.
The threats go on. In the ’spirit’ of Christmas, now the promise to burn our hotel down put in a Christmas carol.
I really hope that the person (s) continually posting these threats realises the harm they could be doing to foreign investment on Barbados.
Leviticus // December 14, 2007 at 6:22 AM
Velzo, thanks for that post above. It really makes you think about democracy in Barbados. I continue to say to the Dems, keep up the fight.
Even if it were true that Heroes Square was sparse, and it is definitely not so, the fact is that the $750 million cost overruns story got to 22,000 readers and they can ponder on the facts.
Ignore Frankology and the rest of them. Their ship is sinking and they really have not straws to clutch. The BLP has been there for too long and that is bad for Barbados.
Anonymous // December 14, 2007 at 7:00 AM
Velzo
Could you explain your point further I am interested to know more.
Secondly if Ezra Alleyne vets the Nation columns and articles then it is quite possible that he vets VOB threats of law suits as well.
Is he therefore advising VOB to settle with his BLP friends.
Also I had heard that it is Fred Gollop who vets the Nation work,maybe he gave that up when he became Senate president.
B.F.P.E. // December 14, 2007 at 8:29 AM
Adrian Loveridge // December 14, 2007 at 5:18 am
An interesting piece by Peter Wickham on BBC Caribbean report for those that have not heard it.
The threats go on. In the ’spirit’ of Christmas, now the promise to burn our hotel down put in a Christmas carol.
I really hope that the person (s) continually posting these threats realises the harm they could be doing to foreign investment on Barbados.
Adrian please accept our sympathy. We have been deleting. Blocking the IP is useless. Please take this matter up with C&W. We can provide the IP’s if you need them.
David
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By all means please give them to him and send him to Cable and Wireless.
You forgot to tell him that the moment he approaches Cable and Wireless, you yourself will be exposed VERY PUBLICLY in the ensuing investigations, since my lawyer will ask for YOUR blog records to be examined to determine whether or not you yourself edited or doctored the postings.
And as for him…. our people inside C&W will take care to him properly.
Heheheheheheheeeeeeeeee!!!!
:-)
B.F.P.E.
Wishing in Vain // December 14, 2007 at 11:13 AM
It certainly appears everything is a leak nowadays and the source of these leaks is from within your own party as was revealed at the MASSIVE PUBLIC MEETING HELD IN HERO’S SQUARE when the leader of the Opposition clearly stated that despite the song and dance about who revealed the inside information on HARDWOOD HOUSING all of his information came from right within you and your parties bossom it was sent to him by no lesser a person than the PERSONAL ASSISTANT TO THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER.
As is the case so to like the new $ 65,000.00 cheque that the party is holding from the Owing and Julie St.Peter Development fund that is financed by the west coast buyers group headed by Dereck Smith, Rausing and company.
One deposit alone that was from Derceck Smith was to the tune of STL 400,000.00.
Do you think they got a dollar or two to knock around?
I also wonder how does he declare or does he have to reveal the source of these funds to this account, you or I as small black business people will have to show the bank who your great, great great grandmother was before they would accept a $ 10,000.00 cheque for deposit, I assume his route is easier than most of our is.
frankology // December 14, 2007 at 12:32 PM
Ignore Frankology and the rest of them. Their ship is sinking and they really have not straws to clutch. The BLP has been there for too long and that is bad for Barbados.
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For the final time, stop associating me with the BLP. If you cannot deal with issues without pinning me to that party, then you are a weak commenter. Check with my comments and you will see me hammering both Dees and Bees, even the sicko for a blog the BFPE.
frankology // December 14, 2007 at 12:44 PM
I have found you to attempt to bully people into your way of thinking or no way, it may work in your party but it fails badly in general, you adopt a spoilt chil approach to most matters if you do not like they way the discussion is unfolding your behave like a spoilt child and thirdly I have found you to be a compulsive liar and I have no time for persons of that ilk.
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WIV, I presume you are looking into a mirror whilst writing this drivel. My writing deals with all types of issues, minus the partisan views, while every comment that you make is clouded with sectarian or protagonist views.
You are so disturb with this Hardwood issue that you failed to read my comments on this particular blog where I was dealing with the BFPE and the litany of lies. I beseech you to read my comments and issue an apology. This is over five times that I realise you do not read and get the gist of other commenters, but rush in to defend the DLP. Again Shame on you.
frankology // December 14, 2007 at 12:59 PM
I have found you to be a compulsive liar and I have no time for persons of that ilk.
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Oh my dear, we have an angel on earth by the name of WIV, he never tells a lie, he just gives untruth statement to justify his reasoning. He never lie because he is associate with the direction of a party, he states when and where a mass meeting will be held before it is advertise, he give a rundown without missing a beat of what is in Thompson’s mind before the man even utter a word. You are the heart of the Dems and I am not vex with you taking your partisan approach, I am not vex when you criticize Owen and Asscoll , I am not even vex if you are a diehard Dems. Why, this is a democratic country and every man/woman have the right to choose which party he/she will alligned with. I prefer to get on like a child before I get on like a girl. Remember, I am still growing up and would be able to decipher right or wrong, lies or the truth, Dees or the Bees, My democratic rights or to be a damn right yardfowl.
Wishing in Vain // December 14, 2007 at 1:06 PM
Elections are around the corner, they sure are.
Rey. // December 14, 2007 at 6:11 PM
Somebody has to say it. You people are really some thing else. As far as I can gather from reading these blogs (and I have just promised to quit following them), for the most part what comes out after the initial responses when a topic is fresh, is a continued degeneration. In comes the intolerance, the name calling , the threats, the poor language skills and a host of other negatives.
Nevertheless let me commend, Georgie Porgie, Observing and Rumplestiltskin who seem to manage really well in walking the road that is less travelled. (That was concluded from a cursory reading of some posts; yet not every post ever made by these persons) Keep to the high road friends.
Straight talk // December 14, 2007 at 6:34 PM
Hi Rey.
Bye Rey.
How do you expect the quality of debate to improve if one’s only contribution is a put-down and goodbye?
frankology // December 14, 2007 at 7:54 PM
Rey, I agree with Straight Talk, you have not made any contribution, instead, you prefer to criticise contributors. Blogging is not a university exam, it is mainly to express one’s view as simple as possible. So next time you write, make sure you deal with issues, not individuals.
Fred // December 14, 2007 at 8:17 PM
Forgive me but I need to ask the question who or what is Caribbean Homes Ltd, based on the urgency that Minister Farley has attached to the building of these houses it almost suggest that this entity is starting to look a lot like the creation of HARDWOOD HOUSING and Mascoll and its share of fraud.
Why is Farley in such a hurry to get this entity up and running and why the information black out on this outfit ???
It seems extremly strange that Bejerkham, Bizzy Williams names are being associated with a low income project, does this have anything to do with a kick back to Farley for providing certain permissions and allowing certain developments at a price?
Based on the recent past, nothing will surprise me and there is nothing that I will accept and take at face value, becuse having learnt the true extent of this parties corruption nothing will surprise me any longer.
Adrian Loveridge // December 15, 2007 at 5:57 AM
Do you realise that despite the huge comment contribution to this blogg, no-one in Government has yet addressed the issues?
1) The 500 houses built in Grenada.
2) The lack of a credible business plan and the justification of the initial ‘investment’ by EGFL.
3) The Leases taken out by Mr Murrell and subsequent lease/invoice back to HHF Inc.
4) The land in Christ Church and St. Peter that Mr Murrell stated ‘HAD’ been purchased.
5) The $2,000 per month ‘entertainment allowance’ awarded to Ms Philips and I understand also Mr Murrell.
Why would they need an ‘entertainment allowance’ to build low cost housing?
6) The sale of two of Mr Murrell’s cars to pay the wages. How many cars does Mr Murrell own.
7) The construction of non-residental buildings.
8) The reluctance to actually admit this was a Government (90%) owned company.
We need (and deserve) to know who submitted the original businessplan for Hardwood Housing Factory Inc, and who was on the board or committee that approved the initial $1 million EGFL loan and subsquent funding.
The current Government, I am sure are relying on the assumption that as with so many other issues, this one will simply fade away.
Perhaps they are right!
Wishing in Vain // December 15, 2007 at 7:44 AM
This gov’t has failed to reply to ANY issues that the citizens have had concerns about for somewhile now, it is displaying a contempt and callous and arrogant approach never so shown to this level ever before towards the good people of this island it is absolutely disgusting.
It maybe the result of the steady in fighting by the likes of mottley and owing for territory and position that they have failed to address the issues of the people of this island,while mootley is busy undermining owing and his cohorts like ASSCOLL by providing the Leader of the Opposition with vital information on the fiasco that ASSCOLL oversaw in HARDWOOD HOUSING, with obvious owing’s blessing for compensation for crossing the floor.
They have failed to do the peoples business, and when they have attempted to do so they have show their weakness in drafting new laws for this island as there has never been a time in the Parliament that so many times legislation has been sent back to be redrafted the most classic case must be the road traffic act where Dale Marshall proved his lack of ability at a job that he is clearly at sea with.
We will wait to see if as mentioned above the sudden arrival and birth of Caribbean Homes ltd (website not yet created) will be the newest version of a Farley get rich scheme ???
Keep the effort up guys there is light at the end of the tunnel.
Wishing in Vain // December 15, 2007 at 7:50 AM
This gang of crooks have perfected the art of LYING and have taken it to a new level.
They seem not to be dependant on spin now as much as they depend on lies to fool the public.
We have seen it all and we have been fed it all so much in the recent past that we have become immune to the poison that this blp admistration spews.
Wishing in Vain // December 15, 2007 at 8:51 AM
Lickmout’ Lou – Poor black boy syndrome
Published on: 12/12/07.
Dear Nesta,
YOU REMEMBER ONE TIME, years ago, when my uncle did sen’ me a ticket to London an’ I was up dey ‘pon holiduh? An’ you remember when you was showin’ me de sights one day, you tek me to see a place dat uses to be some famous fish market name Billingsgate or somet’ing so? Well, de sittin’ o’ we House o’ Assembly las’ week Tuesduh remin’ me o’ dah fish market.
Ness, de behaviour was atrocious, hear wuh I tell you? An’ all because de subjeck o’ Hardwood Housin’ come up fuh debate. Ef you did hear de kin’ o’ suggestive remarks ’bout hard wood an’ sof’ wood, you woulda blush, nuh joke! An’ don’ talk ’bout de lotta laughin’ an’ stampin’ an’ carryin’-on dat went on in dah House ‘pon de part o’ de BLP, it was shameful.
Aldoh I is a fan o’ Liz Thompson, I got to say she really disapp’int me las’ week, faif. De kin’ o’ red herrin’s dat she t’row in dah debate, talkin’ ’bout de Dems an’ bounce cheques an’ all kin’ o’ foolishness did clear evidence she was only tryin’ to divert attention from de real issue. Liz is a powerful speaker, but wuh she get-on wid in Parliament las’ week did far below wuh she capable of. It was in poor tas’e.
Min’ you, de Bees got a monopoly ‘pon red herrin’s as soon as duh onder pressure. Duh strategy is always to try to trivialise de issue an’ mek mocksport at de Opposition. But I got to say dat dis time duh like duh in pottuh wid dah Hardwood affair ’cause, among other t’ings, de woman dat Clydie did say was at de centre o’ de affair come
out o’ de woodwork to deny all dem accusations dat get pelt at she an’ she soun’ very believable, too.
As fuh Clydie – I would like somebody to tell he dat, contrary to he belief, nobody en cay ’bout who an’ who in he fam’ly wash clothes at de Mental or de Physical, nor ’bout ef he grow up in a li’l board-an’-shingle house wid eighteen or eighty people!
Ef, as it would appear, Clydie got a complex ’bout he backgroun’, ‘e should try an’ get rid o’ de big chip ‘pon ‘e shoulder instead o’ usin’ de tired ole “poor-black-boy syndrome” in a effort to solicit sympat’y as soon as ‘e open ‘e mout’.
Ef I was he, I would be happy an’ t’ankful dat de Lord bless me wid sufficient brains to be able to rise t’rough eddication from a onderprivilege upbringin’ to hol’ down a high position, yuh en know?
Um is high time Clydie stop wavin’ de “poor-black-boy” igrance at people like some flag or de other an’ tek ‘e licks when duh come. ‘E got enough sense to know dat politricks en neider Sunduh school picnic . . . an’ ef ‘e cyahn stan’ de heat, ‘e should get out o’ de kitchen!
Nuh joke, Ness, I sick o’ dese people dat always tryin’ to use duh grass-roots beginnin’s to get sympat’y. Who de hell cay ’bout ef somebody mudduh was a hawker or ef duh fathuh was a lighterman? How dem t’ings get relevant to de high cos’-o’-livin’ in Buhbayduss or de fack dat de housin’ problem like um cyahn get solve? Gimme a break, do!
Anyhow, muh girl, I writin’ dis to you befo’ dis week House session, so yuh never know – by de time I pos’ dis, a election date mighta get call, yuh never know! Day runnin’ an’ night nearly ketchin’ it, so I gine keep yuh inform. Meanwhile, keep good, hear? An’ God bless.
Wishing in Vain // December 15, 2007 at 10:18 AM
The NO CONFIDENCE MOTION may not have been voted on as yet in the House of Assembly but it certainly has been voted on by the court of public opion and the vote clearly states that the citizens of this island ase disgusted by the fraud and corruption that Owing and his gang of goons have thrust upon this island.
Wishing in Vain // December 16, 2007 at 9:27 AM
The ELECTION date will be revealed at Owing’s nomination later today.
frankology // December 16, 2007 at 2:21 PM
South Africa 22 for seven against the West Indies
frankology // December 16, 2007 at 2:36 PM
SA 37 for 8
Observing // December 16, 2007 at 3:40 PM
No answers to the Hardwood questions, no disputing of the allegations laid, no disputing of Carol Philips story, no disputing of the St. Peter Development Fund cheque(s), no disputing of the overruns and the list goes on and on. Ef the BLP feel that they’re going to win based on “history” and “good works” alone then they’ve got another thing coming.
Wishing in Vain // December 16, 2007 at 11:07 PM
I submit to you that the reason Owing had people of Mariano Browne’s ilk and others like Tony Hoyos, David Shorey’s, Richard Cox, Hallam Nicholls, Wilkinson is that he is part and parcel of a scheme to defraud the taxpayers of this island and within this scheme he has given the likes of the above mentioned ones a free hand in their dishonesty because he to is playing at the same game and is using them as cover for his actions.
Let me suggest to you that my belief is that if Mariano Browne were to swallow a 4 inch spike nail it would come out as a twisted shank galvanise roofing nail.
He is a dishonest bastard and allowed the control of masses of public funds for distribution among he and his corporate friends like Tony Hoyos as we have clearly witnessed in the EGFL relationship to HARDWOOD HOUSING and its relationship to the privately owned by Tony Hoyos AQUA RESTAURANT.
TIME FOR A CHANGE AND NEW DIRECTION IN THIS ISLAND.
Wishing in Vain // December 16, 2007 at 11:30 PM
Neal McElroy // December 17, 2007 at 2:18 am
David Thompson is bringing more experience to the position of Prime minister than Owen Arthur had when lady luck rolled him into that position. Check the facts: David Thompson, Exhibition winner; Owen Arthur? David Thomson demonstrated his ability as a speaker, debater, youth leader from school days; Owen Arthur? David Thompson served as Minister in two Ministries, Owen Arthur was a Parliamentary Secretary for a few months. Owen Arthur helped Michael Manley to ruin the Jamaican economy with their IMF programme. Owen Arthur cannot point to anything that can be held up as his legacy except for overseeing the greatest wastage of taxpayers’ money in Barbados. He has presided over Greenland, the Government offices at Warrens that made George Payne and Barrack construction wealthy, Dodds, the highway – all with massive cost over runs. The decline of the QEH as a health institution, not to mention the kickbacks for his friends like Rodney Wilkinson, Hallam Nicholls and company. Owen Arthur is the most thiefing Prime Minister this country ever had. How could he on a Prime Minister’s salary have a divorce settlement of almost 4 million dollars? HE IS A CORRUPT THIEFING DRUNKEN LIAR.
Dear Sir,
May I correct you on the value of the settlement it was not $ 4 million as you previously stated but the correct figure is $ 10 million the documents for this settlement are nowhere in the public records where every other document such as this would be, we the lesser mortals would be subjected to the ability of any lawyer to search and reveal the value of our settlements, not so in the drunkard’s case that is kept in safe keeping by the good friend and his long time partner in crime the CJ David Simmons.
As his last act carried out as the AG was to assist Owing in arriving at his settlement and he has assisted by sweeping it under the door mat.
Why is this settlement such a hushed case maybe if we the taxpayers were to see the details in black and white it will fully expose the obvious extent of the corruption that Owing is part of to arrive at a figure of $ 10 million dollars as settlement would clearly suggest that he has well in excess of $ 30 million to allow this level of settlement and where would these funds come from ?
I put it to you not likely from the honestly earned salary of a PM this would be a total joke.
So where has he amassed this mega wealth from it would be fair to assume that the VECO PRISON PROJECT although not the start of his scams it would have set about providing him with the largest block of retirement funds, then the DANOS 3 S ROAD WORKS PROJECT another cool $ 80 or $ 90 million, the OIL STORAGE FACILITY, GREENLAND, CWC and the OVAL PROJECT may Stephen Alleyne rst in his grave and the list goes on !!!!
TIME FOR A CHANGE AND NEW DIRECTION IN THIS ISLAND.
Wishing in Vain // December 17, 2007 at 8:06 AM
Arthur is on a mission; not only to lead this country for a fourth straight term but to ensure that the Democratic Labour Party (DLP) never governs Barbados again.
I am sure he knows exactly why he would make such a wild and wicked and arrogant statement such as this one is, it is for reasons such as this statement that he and his people have been deterred people from wanting to vote for this moraless corrupt bunch.
Who gives him the right to want to see the DLP never governs this island ever again ?
That is an unbelievable does of mega ARROGANCE.
TIME FOR A CHANGE AND NEW DIRECTION IN THIS ISLAND.
Wishing in Vain // December 17, 2007 at 8:13 AM
It caused quite a stir when ten-year-old Kristophe Francis (second child from right, sitting) saw Opposition Leader David Thompson approaching and shouted: “That is the next Prime Minister.”
When Thompson asked him where he had heard that, the lad replied: “I read the papers.”
And it came from the mouth of a little one, when even the children are charged and can make these revelations it speaks volumes for the work done by Mr David Thompson and members.
Wishing in Vain // December 17, 2007 at 10:19 AM
While he attempts to continue to mislead and fool the masses.
I would suggest that he seeks to address the issues of these foreigners obstructing accesses to the beaches of Barbados, let us cast our minds back to this weekends Nation Newspaper story where another Beach access at the COACH HOUSE BEACH has been shut off to the public, the BARRIER at COLONY CLUB and HERON BAY preventing access to our beaches, the chain at OLD QUEENS FORT erected by MRS SIXT, the GATES erected by EDDIE FEARLESS.
More importantly these are the real issues facing the peaceful citizens of this island and not about if he wants to prevent the and to ensure that the Democratic Labour Party (DLP) never governs Barbados again.
This is the most careless statement that a leader of a political party could make purely out of his desire to maintain his control of the treasury for his own arrogant purpose.
TIME FOR A CHANGE AND NEW DIRECTION IN THIS ISLAND.
Wishing in Vain // December 17, 2007 at 1:13 PM
Therefore then am I to assume you are contented with the gross misconduct of the PM in taking care or the financial affairs of the island having overseen in excess of $ 750 MILLION in cost overruns on every project undertaken by this administration?
Secondly why would any logical thinking political party spill their plans when as we have been seeing the blp have jumped and half heartily tried to address each item that the DLP has brought to the forefront, why should the DLP be expected to lay all their plans out on the table for them to feed off of?
We recently saw the Leader of the Opposition suggest that the cost of living needs to addressed and went about suggesting the removal of the VAT on the fuel used to produce the electricty, the blp’s respose to the cost of living issue is to reduse the DUTY on TWO items of Meats wonderful really thoughtful action to a serious problem.
Then we have the laughable comedy of asking the importers to reduce the markups on imported items, what a clown do they not realise that this request will only lead to higher markups being put in place in Miami where the likes of BST have their own buying houses?
We really have the most stupid people trying to screw us up.
Wishing in Vain // December 17, 2007 at 4:41 PM
written by Weatherhead, December 15, 2007
Merry Christmas & a happy & properous New Year to you and your Family, and the Family of the Democratic Labour Party.
David keep up the fight for the People, it is sad to hear the issues affecting the people of Barbados in a Parliamentary Democracy built on the West Minister system of Goverment , with a Junior Minister being involve in what seems to be a conflict of interest with Hardwood Housing, his excuse poor Black man syndrome, yet I see the Chairman as Hoyos and the Director as Khan, so the Poor Black man syndrome is out the door, but in the Westminister system of Democracy and such issues are arrived at conflict of interest the minister resigns and sits as an MP untill his name is cleared , that would also be as an independant MP. What is lacking in Parliament from what I have read is serious commitment by the Goverment to debate on most issues that affect the people of Barbados. Mr Thompson you should go one further and have freedom of information legislation , the people could then ask for info on what the Goverment is doing, as it don’t seem to me that Hansard reports go that far, integrity Legislation is a step in the right direction. Mr David Thompson I first heard you in Quakers road on the Platform of the Democratic Labour Party ,not as a candidate then but as someone who cared about the People Barbados then and Morally still do care today, as someone who have a family and knows what family life is about, who is not just projecting an image , but who have had that MORAL image from ones way of LIFE. GOD bless you and your Family.
Trevor
Wishing in Vain // December 17, 2007 at 5:05 PM
One of the most amazing aspects of the speech delivered yesterday by owing is when he chose to slash and burn mottley and to try to address the infighting in the party by stating that HE WILL BE PRIME MINISTER.
This in itself is an attempt to shut up mottley and her gang from trying to overthrow he and his gang.
Please Mr Prime Minister please do not drag us the everyday citizens into your mud slinging contest, we do not care if you and mottley or if you and the entire party are fighting, we do not feel that you have any rights to feel that you are god and you will administer your poison to us the lowly ones at your will.
Here it is we have a badly disjointed ruling party so in need of power that we have the Deputy Prime Minister gathering support from within her clan of goons to create unrest and upheavel to the Prime Minister and his gang of crooks.
In the end the Prime Minister declares mottley you will sit you behind down and you will not be entrusted with anything while, I owing is running the show not even a half decent ministry, that is what you get for your arrogance and your stupidity.
On the other hand mottley is sitting on the side lines and sniping at owing and his gang by providing advance copies of speeches to the Leader of the Opposition, spilling the documents that relate to the affairs of HARDWOOD HOUSING, what will it be next?
The commission cheque paid to Bannister, Nicholls, and Owing for awarding the contract to VECO for the PRISON, or to them for the awarding of the DANOS BARBADOS KICKBACK AGREEMENT DEAL.
Let them flow we have the time and the will power to address each one and all of them one by one.
TIME FOR A CHANGE AND NEW DIRECTION IN THIS ISLAND.
Wishing in Vain // December 17, 2007 at 5:10 PM
stating that HE WILL BE PRIME MINISTER.
Why would he feel that this is the case ?
He has no magical powers andUNLESS HE HAS THE ELECTIONS RIGGED he cannot be of this arrogant opinion because he may not even win his seat and were does that leave him as Prime Minister without a seat in the House of Assembly.
Wishing in Vain // December 17, 2007 at 9:27 PM
Neil McElroy // December 17, 2007 at 11:16 pm
Well well well!!!! A massive crowd at the Alexandra School. How many people would it take to fill a school hall?
Why are Owen Arthur and the BLP thugs afraid to face the public of Barbados? What ever happened to the “conversation with the people” that flopped so dismally?
The BLP charade of having nominations for sitting members just to get in the news will not fool the people of Barbados; but if you want to hide in the shadows like true thieves in the night, feel free to fool yourselves. YOUR DEEDS WILL SOON COME TO LIGHT!! It’s a pity we don’t have integrity legislation that would put some of you in residence at the prison built by your crooked friends.
Wishing in Vain // December 17, 2007 at 9:28 PM
Neil McElroy // December 18, 2007 at 12:08 am
It is interesting that the concerned Bajan is commenting on the Prime Minister’s remarks with respect to elections. I wonder what he/she thinks about this attack on Dr. Marshall by the BLPites for merely expressing his well thought out views. This attack on freedom of speech seems to be democracy a la Owen “Fidel” Arthur.
IT SEEMS THAT ONLY BLP VIEWS MUST BE EXPRESSED IN BARBADOS!!
TIME FOR A CHANGE AND NEW DIRECTION IN THIS ISLAND.
Wishing in Vain // December 17, 2007 at 10:38 PM
Slipping on Hardwood
Published on: 12/9/07.
by DR DON MARSHALL
THERE IS NO TELLING the effect that the Hardwood saga will have on the electoral fortunes of the political parties represented in the Lower House.
One thing seems clear: the political stocks of Minister of State in the Ministry of Finance Clyde Mascoll are depreciating rapidly.
There is little room to hide from the realisation that Hardwood Housing Factory Incorporated (HHFI), after nearly two years in operation, has not lived up to expectation.
The idea too that the Leader of the Opposition David Thompson had little evidence of substance to make for a credible motion of no-confidence against the Minister of State in the Ministry of Finance has been quashed.
The Arthur Administration has a difficult task seeking to justify the ‘crypto Teflon-argument’ – if it does stick to Mascoll, it certainly does not extend to the Barbados Labour Party (BLP) Government proper.
An example
Mascoll, not quite freed from his earlier oppositional cant, would query why the emphasis on Hardwood when there were other instances of millions of dollars of excess in Government spending, offering the ongoing construction on the ABC Highway as an example. Next week may prove the longest in the political calendar of 2007.
Last Tuesday featured the much anticipated debate on the motion of no-confidence against the Minister of State (Clyde Mascoll) by the Leader of the Opposition, David Thompson. It was a succinct presentation punctuated by a willingness to make pieces of information official documents of the House.
Context was provided by reference to a letter he (Thompson) wrote to the Prime Minister, requesting that a forensic investigation into the operations of HHFI be undertaken.
Thompson noted that none of his itemised queries – from possible indiscretion to irregularities in the company’s financial, business and human resource practices – were subsequently addressed by the Minister of State to whom the Prime Minister referred as the substantive minister with responsibility in this low-income housing initiative.
Thompson expressed that the official Opposition had no confidence in the Minister of State given his errors of judgement in relation
to HHFI, a company receiving BDS$2 million from a Government-sponsored venture capital fund entitled the Enterprise Growth Fund Limited (EGFL).
Mask their doubts
Most politicians mask their own doubts and anxieties by striking attitudes of absolute conviction. This was especially clear in the responses of Mascoll and Elizabeth Thompson. There was much belittling of the claims and forays into matters of no relevance to the debate.
The Member for St James South is one of the Government’s most formidable debaters, but lazy resort to stereotypes of the ‘poor black man’ as arduous but driven to dodgy business practice because of cash flow difficulties runs up hard against numerous studies.
The research on black entrepreneurship and small businesses expose this logic as simplistic. It levers discussion back onto the tracks of power relations in the market, banking practices, enterprise culture, the role of the State, and nuanced differences between self-employment and entrepreneurial instincts.
Curiously enough, Mascoll’s speech also intoned the ‘poor black boy/man’ trope without so much as a sideways glance at other small home-builders and contractors with a track record suitable enough to benefit from an opportunity to contribute to low-income housing initiatives.
The Minister of State in the Ministry of Finance insists he did nothing wrong except to pursue an opportunity to facilitate the provision of low-income housing for Barbadians. This was echoed as much by Ezra Alleyne in his Issues And Ideas column in the WEEKEND NATION
(Friday 7, 2007), headlined, No Case To Answer.
Interestingly, Alleyne conceded that “one cannot criticise Mr Thompson for raising questions about the outlay of $2 million of public funds” but would later add that “[i]t is quite another thing . . . to lay a political charge sheet against a minister when there is no evidence of direct or indirect wrongdoing on his part.” There were some callers on talk radio that raised this point about the absence of direct or indirect wrongdoing on the part of the minister.
This is an important view which dovetails with arguments in the public administration literature that ministers cannot be held personally to account for departmental actions of which they know nothing and that this should not be an understanding under the doctrine of ministerial accountability in the Westminster model.
Obligation
It is most productive to focus instead on what Woodhouse (1994) calls amendatory responsibility: the obligation of ministers to take remedial action for a failure and report to Parliament on what they have done.
Another scholar reminds us of two components of individual ministerial responsibility: a resignation component and an answerability one. The answerability component of the doctrine requires that each minister answer to Parliament, in the form of explanation or defence, for all the actions
of his or her department.
The question put before the House, however, does not relate to any wrong-doing directly or indirectly on the part of Honourable Clyde Mascoll but to errors of judgement and whether the minister acted in an improper manner in pursuit of the low income housing initiative. Certainly the claim by Minister Mascoll that the principal of Hardwood built 500 homes in post-Ivan may have unduly influenced the willingness of the EGFL to invest BDS$1 million in HHFI.
My initial reaction whilst listening to Minister Mascoll’s reply was that he should have earlier offered his resignation to the Prime Minister. Upon reflection, in the style of British parliamentary question time, I can only be sure that he ought to have resigned depending on how he answers the following questions canvassed from colleagues and friends:
Does Minister Clyde Mascoll still consider to be accurate his claim that the key principal of HHFI built 500 houses in (post Hurricane Ivan) Grenada?
Did the minister’s strong advocacy of the entrepreneur’s credentials place undue pressure on the EGFL?
Were there written codes of best practice for the board of HHFI?
(These refer to the role, functions and responsibilities of the board of HHFI: appointment of directors, appointment of chairman, remuneration of the directors, disclosures of interest by directors, composition, mix of skills and competencies of the same and succession planning, the board’s independence; board meetings, committees of the board, financial, governance and operational reporting, liabilities of the directors; and accountability of the board.)
Less-than-best practice
Did the minister err in his continued advocacy of this firm despite evidence of less-than-best practice in the management of this firm?
What is his current assessment of HHFI’s performance?
How does this square with earlier claims of the principal’s impressive track record of efficiency and speed-to-market?
* Dr Don D. Marshall is Senior Fellow (PoliticalScience/International Political Economy) at the University of the West Indies
Cave Hill Campus.
TIME FOR A CHANGE AND NEW DIRECTION IN THIS ISLAND.
Such Stupid Comments // December 18, 2007 at 9:03 AM
The real plans for Six Men’s
Published on: 12/18/07.
by Ricky Jordan
GOVERNMENT HAS DISMISSED rumours that it plans to move residents of Six Men’s in St Peter and allow a private marina to be built there.
Addressing the controversial topic of the St Peter fishing village during his general election nomination at Alexandra School on Sunday night, Prime Minister Owen Arthur said Government could not, under law, take the land of any private individual and give it to another private individual or entity to develop.
Saying such thinking was the essence of “voodoo law” and could not be done, Arthur said Government’s plan for Six Men’s was to build a fishing complex and an inland lagoon, since there was nowhere on the West Coast to harbour boats during the hurricane season.
“They used to pull up (boats) at Port St Charles. The Government cannot rely on that. We need a safe haven for boats,” he said.
He said it would mean that people would have to be moved, since a fishing complex and a lagoon could not be sited on the land next to the west of the road in Six Men’s.
As far as any private project was concerned, the Prime Minister said that an additonal separate development to the south of Six Men’s, called Retreat, was the area for which private persons had applied for permission to develop.
“Now that is not the Government’s project. It is not the Government’s business. There is not a house on that private land. If those people want to develop a property to the south of Six Men’s, not a house will have to move,” he pledged.
Blaming a Democratic Labour Party (DLP) member for spreading news of the proposed private marina, he said the DLP should not even show its face in the constituency, since St Peter had had to endure more venom from that party than any other parish.
Blasting late Prime Minister Errol Barrow for saying Boscobelle was not on his map of Barbados and that its residents were behind God’s back, Arthur blamed the DLP for abandoning a series of developmental projects in the parish.
Among those he listed were a proposed industrial estate at Six Men’s for which land was acquired, but was abandoned when the DLP came to power in 1986; and a proposed fishing complex funded by the European Union, also abandoned in 1986.
Arthur said when the BLP resumed the Government, he therefore felt a duty to the people of Six Men’s to start the acquisition again, but the owner of the land had since then taken legal action against the Government.
“The only reason why things haven’t been settled with Six Men’s is because it is still before the court,” stated Arthur, who has represented St Peter since 1984.
Such Stupid Comments // December 18, 2007 at 9:04 AM
The real plans for Six Men’s
Published on: 12/18/07.
by Ricky Jordan
GOVERNMENT HAS DISMISSED rumours that it plans to move residents of Six Men’s in St Peter and allow a private marina to be built there.
Addressing the controversial topic of the St Peter fishing village during his general election nomination at Alexandra School on Sunday night, Prime Minister Owen Arthur said Government could not, under law, take the land of any private individual and give it to another private individual or entity to develop.
Saying such thinking was the essence of “voodoo law” and could not be done, Arthur said Government’s plan for Six Men’s was to build a fishing complex and an inland lagoon, since there was nowhere on the West Coast to harbour boats during the hurricane season.
“They used to pull up (boats) at Port St Charles. The Government cannot rely on that. We need a safe haven for boats,” he said.
He said it would mean that people would have to be moved, since a fishing complex and a lagoon could not be sited on the land next to the west of the road in Six Men’s.
As far as any private project was concerned, the Prime Minister said that an additonal separate development to the south of Six Men’s, called Retreat, was the area for which private persons had applied for permission to develop.
“Now that is not the Government’s project. It is not the Government’s business. There is not a house on that private land. If those people want to develop a property to the south of Six Men’s, not a house will have to move,” he pledged.
Blaming a Democratic Labour Party (DLP) member for spreading news of the proposed private marina, he said the DLP should not even show its face in the constituency, since St Peter had had to endure more venom from that party than any other parish.
Blasting late Prime Minister Errol Barrow for saying Boscobelle was not on his map of Barbados and that its residents were behind God’s back, Arthur blamed the DLP for abandoning a series of developmental projects in the parish.
Among those he listed were a proposed industrial estate at Six Men’s for which land was acquired, but was abandoned when the DLP came to power in 1986; and a proposed fishing complex funded by the European Union, also abandoned in 1986.
Arthur said when the BLP resumed the Government, he therefore felt a duty to the people of Six Men’s to start the acquisition again, but the owner of the land had since then taken legal action against the Government.
“The only reason why things haven’t been settled with Six Men’s is because it is still before the court,” stated Arthur, who has represented St Peter since 1984.
A NEW BEGINING
Wishing in Vain // December 18, 2007 at 11:16 AM
Let me spend a minute to expose how poorly informed and his lack of education on the matter that he is shooting his mouth off about, he states that They used to pull up (boats) at Port St Charles. The Government cannot rely on that.
He is speaking on something that he is not informed on, or rather he is just lying thru his teeth, Port St.Charles Marina HAVE NEVER PULLED OUT ANY BOATS DURING ANY HURRICANE SEASON they may have open and provided a safe harbour but never have they hauled out any boats, they do no have such facilities available to them, I wish that before he rattles on about things he knows nothing about but designed to fool the masses and sound good, and to catch votes but he is a liar on this score and on many other issues as well.
It also seems that it has taken the absence of the Opposition and in particular the absence of the Leader of the Opposition Mr. David Thompson for Arthur to return to the house and say something after 8 months in absence.
Such Stupid Comments // December 18, 2007 at 11:44 AM
It also seems that it has taken the absence of the Opposition and in particular the absence of the Leader of the Opposition Mr. David Thompson for Arthur to return to the house and say something after 8 months in absence.
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TOM PEE was in the House for 20 years. He spoke a lot but said nothing.
let us look forward to a NEW BEGINNING
Wishing in Vain // December 18, 2007 at 11:53 AM
I am yet to hear a whimper out of the blp clan of crooks address the issue of the side swipe at mottley in his nomination speech on Sunday wher he stated she has no role to play he will be the PM if the people were so crazy to vote for them again, nor have we heard any of them address the issue of his DICTATORSHIP with his comments about not ever to wanting to see the DLP in office again.
I await your enlightened comments on these pressing issues.
He is speaking on something that he is not informed on, or rather he is just lying thru his teeth, Port St.Charles Marina HAVE NEVER PULLED OUT ANY BOATS DURING ANY HURRICANE SEASON they may have open and provided a safe harbour but never have they hauled out any boats, they do no have such facilities available to them, I wish that before he rattles on about things he knows nothing about but designed to fool the masses and sound good, and to catch votes but he is a liar on this score and on many other issues as well.
It also seems that it has taken the absence of the Opposition and in particular the absence of the Leader of the Opposition Mr. David Thompson for Arthur to return to the house and say something after 8 months in absence.
TIME FOR A CHANGE AND NEW DIRECTION IN THIS ISLAND.
Such Stupid Comments // December 18, 2007 at 1:23 PM
Wishing in Vain // December 18, 2007 at 11:53 am
I am yet to hear a whimper out of the blp clan of crooks address the issue of the side swipe at mottley in his nomination speech on Sunday wher he stated she has no role to play he will be the PM if the people were so crazy to vote for them again, nor have we heard any of them address the issue of his DICTATORSHIP with his comments about not ever to wanting to see the DLP in office again.
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Come on Cranston, you can do better than waste your time writing this dribble. Try as you might, there is no divide between OWEN and MIA or MIA and Clyde or CLYDE and Farley or Atherley and MIA. You and wish for that as much as you like but alas you will be wishing in vain. The BLP team to a man and women is unite behind its Political Leader and Prime Minister, Owen S. Arthur. Can you say the same for the DEMs? Is Kelly fully supportive of TOM PEE? What about Estwick? What about Lashley? What about Stuart… and Lowe?
On to A NEW BEGINNING
Velzo // December 18, 2007 at 1:32 PM
SSC, who do you think gave Thompson the Hardwood documents? You are a real clown though.
Why didn’t Atherley attend Mottley’s nomination? Do you know that Farley said that the Cabinet knew nothing about Hardwood and all the corruption? Glyne Clarke said he will not do a single road in Liz Thompson’s constituency! Do Marshall and Mottley speak? Check it for yourself.
Where are you living SSC?
Wishing in Vain // December 18, 2007 at 1:35 PM
In your effort to cover your lies you open another wound and I am sure that most of the population were not aware of a rift between CLYDE and FARLEY or ATHERLEY and MIA but we are very thankful for you having brought it to the publics attention and we will pay it closer attention in the coming weeks.
You information has been duly noted and we wish you and your war zone the blp happy fighting.
Wishing in Vain // December 19, 2007 at 7:57 AM
CEO quits
Published on: 12/19/07.
by MELISSA ROLLOCK
ANTHONY MURRELL, chief executive officer of the controversial Hardwood Housing Factory Inc, has resigned.
Murrell, who has been at the helm of the company since it opened in February this year, stepped down “in the interest and reputation” of the company.
He handed in his resignation to board chairman Tony Hoyos yesterday evening.
In a statement to the MIDWEEK NATION yesterday, Murrell broke his silence for the first time since the dealings of the Six Roads, St Philip factory came under scrutiny in late September.
“In the interest and the reputation of Hardwood Housing Factory Inc., I have submitted my resignation to the chairman of the company. If however the factory should require my technical support, I am available and willing to assist whenever I am called upon to do so. I wish the company great success and expect that it will continue to help the poor people who need houses in this country. As for me, that will also be my main intention.”
He said he was committed to providing affordable housing to all Barbadians and would continue to do so from his “humble workshop at home” in Market Hill, St George.
The MIDWEEK NATION understands however, that even though Murrell tendered his resignation, the board has not readily accepted it.
Brutus // December 19, 2007 at 8:06 AM
Hmmm…..
New boss at Hardwood
Date November 16, 2007 (NationNews)
by TIM SLINGER
A NEW MAN is
at the helm of the controversial Hardwood Housing Factory.
And there are plans
to unveil a new housing initiative shortly that is expected to give thousands of Barbadians the opportunity to own
their own homes.
Former president of the Barbados Manufacturers’ Association (BMA) and
gas station dealer, Bobby Khan, took over the reins of the heavily criticised
St Philip-based factory last Monday, replacing its previous chief executive Anthony Murrell.
Chairman of the company, Anthony (Tony) Hoyos, confirmed the appointment yesterday and announced that Murrell would now serve as technical manager,
a position he described
as being more suitable
for the expertise of the man who initially set
up the business.
Wishing in Vain // December 19, 2007 at 8:12 AM
I am surprised to see that he has his wife’s support, this is a bold statement from an man that is before the courts for rape of 2 women from HARDWOOD HOUSING FACTORY where he operated.
The PR execise covered in this release will do nothing to ease the pressure on he, ASSCOLL or HOYOS they have all conspired to steal from us the taxpayers of this island.
Let us not forget the scam of monies being borrowed from the EGFL by HARDWOOD HOUSING and the ENTERTAINMENT ALLOWANCE TO BE USED ONLY AT AQUA RESTAURANT this is just another example of their scam on us.
Cortez Lewis // December 19, 2007 at 8:28 AM
Excellent Move!
Hahahahahaha!!!!
:-)
http://www.nationnews.com/story/325852958221274.php
Statement from ex-Hardwood CEO
Published on: 12/19/07.
Following is the text of a statement made by former CEO of Hardwood Housing Factory, Anthony Murrell, that was submitted to THE NATION last night.
IN LIGHT of the national interest that has been generated about the Hardwood Housing Factory, and at the persistent request of my wife, I am persuaded to comment on the allegations levelled at me and others concerning Hardwood Housing Factory.
A no-confidence motion was tabled in the House of Assembly against Minister Clyde Mascoll about wrongdoings at Hardwood Housing factory and that he condoned and promoted improper behaviour at that workplace.
I think that one can really say that I am the man at the very heart of the matter and it is only fitting that I answer the charges made against me and some others at Hardwood Housing Factory.
Many misconceptions and false allegations are being made by those who set out to slander and destroy the character of others. I am humbly asking that Barbadians take the politics out of the issue and be fair to all concerned.
Let me say, as God has me to judge, and only God can determine the workings and deeds that come from a man’s heart or a woman’s heart, he alone sits in the seat of judgement. . . .
But he has brought me through this whole affair and tested me. He has made me stronger and a better man than I was a few months ago.
If this is my last breath, I would now take the opportunity to inform Barbados that Minister Clyde Mascoll has never been paid, or has ever received monies from, or on behalf of, Hardwood Housing Factory Inc.
He has never sourced, received, or sold lumber on behalf of that company.
Even when I sought his advice on certain matters, he would always speak on a personal level, but was quick to remind me that, as much as he would like to help, he could not do so because of his ministerial responsibility.
That is the kind of man, Clyde Mascoll is. He is straightforward. He will listen to you and he will always advise you to do the right thing.
I went to Guyana myself, even before I set up the factory. This was done to ensure that I got to meet the providers of lumber and to guarantee that I was getting the best quality lumber, and also to see what type of hardwood lumber was available to me.
So when you hear someone say that Minister Mascoll sourced raw materials from Guyana, that is not true.
Mr Mascoll never received compensation or monies when I discussed my idea with him whilst doing a project at Ashdeane Village, Black Rock. I thrashed it out with him and the only thing that concerned him was my ability to produce affordable housing for those at the lower end of society.
His mission was to assist Government in getting houses quickly and cheaply. I have great respect for the man. You may have heard that before I knew him, I did not like him. I never trusted politicians and you will understand why I felt that way.
But I have grown to love him and treasure him as a great person and the type of politician that Barbadians ought to embrace. Even when the company was operational and I spoke to him, he would gently motivate and encourage me with the goal that I should build at least one house a day.
It was never about him, but about how many poor people I could help to get a house. There are those out there who would not wish Minister Mascoll to succeed, and that is quite unfortunate.
Minister Mascoll has been done a great injustice by all the allegations thrown at him.
My family, friends, and associates have been deeply hurt by the statements made about him and we are very sorry and regret that his name could be dragged through the mud to create a scandal.
If there were shortcomings at Hardwood Housing Factory Inc. it would have been in the personalities that made up the management structure.
As CEO, at the time, I take full responsibility for that. In the interest and the reputation of Hardwood Housing Factory Inc, I have submitted my resignation to the chairman of the company.
If however the factory should require my technical support, I am available and willing to assist whenever I am called upon to do so. I wish the company great success and expect that it will continue to help the poor people who need houses in this country.
As for me, that will also be my main intention.
It is my commitment to continue to make affordable housing to all. It is from my humble workshop at home that I began to produce these houses and it is there I will return in the very near future to produce quality affordable homes.
The familiar term being used of late is “going through the fire”. Well, that is exactly how it has been over the last 11 months, but, like steel,it has made me stronger.
There is that caring nature in me that wants to give, and I wish to assure all that if there is a need, Anthony Murrell will be there to help.
In closing, I encourage Barbadians, and especially the people whom Minister Mascoll represents, to understand that he is truly a man for helping them. He is simply a good person.
Take away the politics and you will see a warm, genuine and caring individual. Do not let anyone blind you to this truth.
I wish to publicly thank my wife and family, my friends and customers for their unswerving support and well wishes during this entire issue. To those who do not fully know the facts, I urge you to seek them out and judge for yourself.
Barbados has always been blessed with good people and managed by good leaders. Do not let pettiness and maliciousness divide us. Thank you. – Sincerely, Mr F. A. Murrell
Cortez Lewis // December 19, 2007 at 8:30 AM
BLP 2: DLP 0
The biggest backfire in Bajan politics for decades.
:-)
Wishing in Vain // December 19, 2007 at 8:44 AM
Leviticus // December 19, 2007 at 5:12 am
As to youngster: we heard both sides. We heard Mascoll and we heard Thompson. The country came to a conclusion.
Hardwood was building Mascoll’s wife’s office on Hardwood funds. It employed illegal non-black Guyanese and paid them more than poor, black Bajans. The girls Murrell raped on the job were poor, black Bajans from Mascoll’s constituency. Tools were stolen from Hardwood by Murrell. Hoyos – no poor black man – required the staff to use their entertainment allowance at his Aqua restaurant not a poor black canteen operator. Why do you think Teddy Griffith was fired as the first Chairman? I heard it on TV with my own ears. And I heard Mascoll’s pathetic reply. I don’t even want to say anything about Liz Thompson.
Think, unless you are a young fool. One poor black man against over 30 others at Hardwood?Why do you think the staff rebelled and gave the information to Mia Mottley who then handed it to Thompson. She knew that Arthur is as morally uneducated as the youngster is.
BTW, Murrell resigned from Hardwood today. But that is not enough. Mascoll must account for $2 million in taxpayers money.
Do you know how many poor black Barbadians have applied for loans – not like Cap-in-hand-Durant – from EGFL and who have heard no reply for over six months?And Hardwood gets two loans in less than one year? Come on, you think we are stupid?
Observing // December 19, 2007 at 9:01 AM
Not withstanding the facts that haven’t been refuted up to now i have to admit that this will take some of the wind out of the DLP Hardwood’s sails.
The inability of anyone to account for what happened is still a grievous display of a lack of accountability, but, politically speaking unless the DLP goes on the offense again and soon, after the Christmas euphoria this will be almost a sidebar in the discussion.
And for the record, I hope intelligent persons can see BS when they’re fed it.
Murrell says “I am persuaded to comment on the allegations levelled at me and others concerning Hardwood Housing Factory.”
and
“it is only fitting that I answer the charges made against me and some others”
…but yet, doesn’t answer any of the allegations laid in and out of Parliament regarding him and instead turns the release into a “clear Mascoll of any wrongdoing and go quietly in the wind” type letter. It figures.
Such Stupid Comments // December 19, 2007 at 9:07 AM
David TOM PEE is no longer a school boy. He has been a MP for 20 years. One would have expected that after 20 years he would have grown up. Alas he continues to be the same immature boy that he was when he was at secondary school.
Neil it is cute whan a little boy shows some promise in terms of being articulate and argumentative. But cuteness don’t cut it when you become a man ( in TOM PEE case when you aged). One would expect substance; a demonstration on intellectual development; an indication of a vision; an expression of some profound thought process. All of these are lacking in TOM PEE who was only an early developer.
For the past 20 years there have been no real growth in TOM PEE. very few persons remember that he was a minister of government and a minister of finance to boot.
So Leviticus et al please bring current reference that are relevant to demonstrate TOM PEE readiness for OFFICE because all of us have grown up and his little boy tactics are no longer relevant. We now live in the real world with real issues to tackle. Bus fare and lunch money will not solve the problems of world consume with many global economic issues.
innuendo and slime will not improve the lot of barbadian or ease the plight of those still caught in poverty.
An immaturity and cuteness will not provide the leadership necessary to move this Caribbean region forward.
WE MUST GO WITH OWEN…. He is our hope.
He is SOLID as a ROCK and
WISE as a serpent
As Harmless as a DOVE
Such Stupid Comments // December 19, 2007 at 9:12 AM
Leviticus ….Face it, he is a master strategist. I have to give it to him. He has public support and he created a storm in a teacup that overtook the whole country.
………………………………………………………………..
Ha ha … Somebody acually believe tha TOM PEE is a master strategist.
You need to be more analytical. After 20 years in the HOA what has TOM PEE to show to suggest that he is a master of anything?
After winning Barrow safe seat as a young man what has TOM PEE to show to the people of St. John? You must remember that TOM PEE took over ST. John when the DLP was in Government and was enjoying its largest Mandate. What is his achievement?
TOM PEE became a Minister of Finance and this master strategise presided over the worst period of economic management know to this country.
TOM PEE the master strategist became leader of the DLP and then lead them to the worst defeat ever.
TOM PEE the master strategist is the only leader of the DLP that had to borrow money to run an election and still owes bills up to this time.
TOM PEE the master startegist go rid of Patrick Todd to replace him with Pandor.
TOM PEE the master startegist brought in Jennifer Lazlo to work along side Hartley
And now you admit that this master startegist, after all the talk about Hardwood has only created a storm in a teacup. So Much for re-branding, so little for strategy
Wishing in Vain // December 19, 2007 at 10:21 AM
When you and your gang of clowns respond to the questions below then we will have a chat until then go fly another kite.
I am yet to hear a whimper out of the blp clan of crooks address the issue of the side swipe at mottley in his nomination speech on Sunday wher he stated she has no role to play he will be the PM if the people were so crazy to vote for them again, nor have we heard any of them address the issue of his DICTATORSHIP with his comments about not ever to wanting to see the DLP in office again.
I await your enlightened comments on these pressing issues.
He is speaking on something that he is not informed on, or rather he is just lying thru his teeth, Port St.Charles Marina HAVE NEVER PULLED OUT ANY BOATS DURING ANY HURRICANE SEASON they may have open and provided a safe harbour but never have they hauled out any boats, they do no have such facilities available to them, I wish that before he rattles on about things he knows nothing about but designed to fool the masses and sound good, and to catch votes but he is a liar on this score and on many other issues as well.
It also seems that it has taken the absence of the Opposition and in particular the absence of the Leader of the Opposition Mr. David Thompson for Arthur to return to the house and say something after 8 months in absence.
TIME FOR A CHANGE AND NEW DIRECTION IN THIS ISLAND.
Straight talk // December 19, 2007 at 10:41 AM
Does Murrell keep his equipment, which we paid for?
How will Mascoll juggle that to help the poor black man?
Velzo // December 19, 2007 at 11:03 AM
The BLP thinks that “the sting” has been taken out of Hardwood. Well, well, well. These guys and gals are bold though.
In this whole Hardwood affair think about it: Three girls raped. 15 Barbadian workers victimised by being paid less that Guyanese. $2 million in taxpayers money down the drain. Hoyos, Murrell, Mascoll’s personal assistant and Mascoll teifing.
Yet the BLP says the sting is gone. Its just a game for the BLP. It doesn’t matter who gets hurt at all. Well, let’s see then!
Such Stupid Comments // December 19, 2007 at 11:06 AM
WE GOING WITH OWEN…. He is our hope.
He is SOLID as a ROCK and
WISE as a serpent
As Harmless as a DOVE
Observing // December 19, 2007 at 4:16 PM
Excellent point.. what happens to the equipment that is in Murrel’s name?? And as stated before Murrel hasn’t refuted any of the allegations against him, neither has anyone.
If the DLP plays their cards right Hardwood could still be a huge thorn, but if they let it fizzle the BLP would have neutralised a vary damaging issue.
Jerome Hinds // December 19, 2007 at 5:35 PM
Observing…….let the the BLP continue to openly display their…..TRITE !
This one ain’t going to FIZZLE…..!
Observing…..by NAME & NATURE you appear reasonable.
Did you read MURRELL ‘S pathethic letter of resignation ?
MURRELL….said Mascoll did not assist him in sourcing lumber from Guyana !
Yet a Mr. Philipe Taitt wrote in the PRESS confirming that Mascoll asked him to source lumber which he did and was PAID for !
This was over 10 days ago…….Mascoll nor Murrell did not DENY this ! ( WHY??????? the letters were printed in the press !!!!)
Representatives from Takoma in Guyana wrote to Mascoll about the quantities of lumber to be sent to Barbados……Mascoll nor Murrell did not DENY this ! ( WHY??????? the letters were printed in the press !!!!)
So Observing……what do you expect……the public of Barbados have not seen Mascoll’s reply to those letters as yet !
It is about TIMING……..!
This one CANNOT fizzle !
Straight talk // December 19, 2007 at 8:13 PM
There seems to be a lot more mileage to run in this sorry tale.
Murrell’s resignation cannot be allowed to stymie important questions which need to be answered.
There is a lot more to Ms Carol Philips than is at first apparent.
Before Hardwood she was ( and maybe still is ) Barbados Director of Operation Mobilisation. A christian philanthropic charity, her base is in Grazettes.
It is this charity who claimed to have rebuilt 500 houses in Grenada (the Nation 7/6/06) and according to The Nation (6/9/2006) when Hammie La was recieving a $60,000 cheque, who was in attendance?
None other than Anthony Murrell, once again designated as their Technical Manager.
CBC on 12/11/06 reported that Operation Mobilisation had handed over 2 houses, were in the process of completing a third , and by the end of the month two more.
An appreciative Lashley noted that to construct a house in this modern age costs in excess of $100,000 and they were able to construct three.
The GIS ( June 22nd 2006) reported that $14 million dollars had been collected by volunteers to alleviate the needs of 60 deserving households in Barbados, courtesy of Operation Mobilisation.
Hardwood is not a company formed by a poor black man and some unenemployed Bajans, it is an extension of a financially successful charity scheme.
The principal players are all known to each other.
There is more to come.
viz: Google “Operation Mobilisation Barbados” and “Murrell Barbados”
Wishing in Vain // December 19, 2007 at 10:48 PM
ARTHUR AND HIS BAND MUST NOT SPOIL OUR CHRISTMAS
Don’t let anything spoil your Christmas!
Think as a positive Barbadian and reach for the stars. Change is coming your way. That is our message to the people of Barbados at this Christmas even though thinking Barbadians would be extremely disturbed by the statements made by the Prime Minister last Sunday at his nomination, suggesting that it is his desire to remain in office for life. While the rabid BLP acolytes and How Great Thou Art singers may have lost their ability to reflect on the dangers of this statement, the rest of Barbados has to take the words Arthur used seriously. These statements portend badly for politics in Barbados and his comments are unprecedented in the modern history of our parliamentary system.
Arthur’s statement that he is motivated in a special way to “ensure that the DLP never governs Barbados again” has disturbed many Barbadians since the system we practice is a multi-party system and if the Democratic Labour Party or any other political institution is permanently kept from power this means that Arthur and his outgoing Barbados Labour Party will permanently govern the affairs of this country. How would he and the BLP achieve this?
We have found Arthur’s statements sound frighteningly similar to those uttered by Forbes Burnham some years ago. These statements are particularly distressing in the context of a government, which only last month attempted to impose legislation that would have tinkered with the constitutional protection guaranteed to Civil Servants and moreover is committed to the pursuit of a Republic here. The signs are clear and the dangers are ever-present.
Arthur’s obvious obsession with the retention of power is in many ways what we have been talking about for some time now and is exacerbated by the fact his stated reason for wanting to hold office is a desire to keep the DLP away from office. This is an admission that there is no good reason to re-elect him. Clearly, he recognises that his record is poor and does not warrant re-election, hence he now tries to scare the people of Barbados into believing that the DLP is the problem, in the hope that he will be given a fourth term.
These statements reveal much about Arthur’s strategy which for the last 13 years has distracted the population by focusing excessively on the DLP, while he and his BLP have been mismanaging this country with alarming consequences. $750 million in cost over-runs, the deterioration of our public services, the treatment of the poor, the failure to solve little problems while focussing on the needs of the BLP’s supporters.
The DLP has previously and successfully managed the affairs of this country and we are now once more ready to resume this role. Our leadership is clearly now more critical if we are to save Barbados from these BLP power-hungry fanatics that are concerned only with power and not with our national development.
As we offer ourselves we do so with full regard and respect for the principles of democracy which inevitably will work both for and against political parties from time to time. The DLP has experienced the best of times as well as political adversity; however we have always respected the wishes of the electorate and will never seek to impose ourselves on the people of Barbados for longer than the people of Barbados desire our leadership. The Prime Minister would do well to remember that he was elected by the people of Barbados and that Barbados does not belong to him or the Barbados Labour Party.
It is unfortunate that this Christmas season is shrouded by such dark clouds on the horizon. For Christmas should be seen as a time of hope and joy – a time of giving and generosity. Despite the challenges ahead, we will keep the faith with the people of Barbados always trusting in the Almighty.
We wish all Barbadians a merry Christmas.
Wishing in Vain // December 19, 2007 at 11:05 PM
Here is what Mascoll said.
Mascoll: I was only helping
Date December 05, 2007
Brief Mascoll: I was only helping
by Ricky Jordan
“I have done nothing wrong. All I have tried to do is assist a small black man convert an idea – given he had no money or capital – into a project. I’m not an owner of Hardwood, nor a part owner.”
by RICKY JORDAN
“I HAVE DONE nothing wrong. All I have tried to do is assist a small black man convert an idea – given he had no money or capital – into a project. I’m not an owner of Hardwood, nor a part owner.”
This mixture of affirmation and emotion characterised the reply by Minister of State Clyde Mascoll in the House of Assembly to a no-confidence motion brought against him yesterday by Leader of the Opposition David Thompson.
Mascoll, admitting that he tried his best to help Hardwood Housing Factory’s owner Anthony Murrell establish a way to provide low-income housing for Barbadians, said the allegation that he sourced material for this company was “blatantly untrue”.
He told the Lower Chamber that when the company was advertised in the daily newspapers, two companies from Guyana called and requested a visit at the Ministry of Finance. He said a subsequent meeting on October 10 between himself, Murrell and another Barbadian had involved discussion of the sourcing of lumber from Guyana.
Mascoll added that Hardwood Housing was incorporated a month later.
“The so-called sourcing of material predates the establishment of Hardwood Housing Factory Inc., but at that time, the Barbados National Bank had expressed an interest in providing the finance to allow for the establishment of the company. But that would have been debt and was expensive. And the Barbados Investment and Development Corporation (BIDC) offered and delivered a business plan that was taken to the Enterprise Growth Fund (EGF), which was accepted,” the former Opposition Leader added.
He said there was no other connection between himself and the company because “once the EGF got involved, I no longer had that sort of interest”.
He added that matters such as who were hired or fired did not concern him, nor who went too close to someone and caused friction.
Regarding the $2 million given Hardwood by the EGF, Mascoll said the first $1 million was accounted for by February 22 this year in equipment, investment and training.
This, he added, was followed by an overdraft in September from BNB after the company didn’t get any EGF funds between February and September 10.
The second tranche, another $1 million from the EGF, was used to pay that overdraft, Mascoll noted.
Turning to the allegation of bounced cheques, he said there were few small companies without cash flow problems. He added that the said cheques produced by Thompson had not been cashed but were recalled after it was recognised they had exceeded the limit. The recipients were honoured in five days, he added.
Accusing Thompson of being insensitive and taking the word of a disgruntled former manager, he said he had several pictures of Murrell in Grenada, proof that he was there between October and December 2004, had built 280 to 300 houses, and trained people to erect temporary structures. He also said Murrell’s work was evident on two websites: http://www.crossroads.ca and http://www.samaritansfirst. org.
To loud thumping from the Government side, the Minister of State added: “I would do again what I did to assist Anthony Murrell or any other black, white, ordinary or not so ordinary man, to build houses for poor Barbadians. If that’s not my remit, then I’ve chosen the wrong profession.”
…
written by Weatherhead, December 19, 2007
The Minister Of State Clyde Mascoll made a statement in the House of Assembly about Helping a Black man and he would do it all over again, but of interest is the Websites the Minister named in his defence or Murrell,s defence which seems to be serving as some RESUME for Murrell and the INVESTMENT of the Tax paying Barbadians Dollars to the tune of two million dollars. Minister Mascoll named http://www.samaritansfirst.org which is a site that the minister would have to tell us what we were looking for, the other site the Minister mentioned was http://www.crossroads.ca which is a Canadian family of Ministries located at 100 Huntley street , Ontario, Canada . With Ministries on Global Television every morning during the week. Those Ministries have to operate within the Guidelines of the Legislation of the Canadian Goverment. The Minister also pointed a picture at
a website in Canada, the minister should also take a look at Integrity Legislation, where a former
Prime Minister is recalled for taking allege Bribe money. What is the reason for not having Integrity
Legislation in Barbados ???? Parliamentarians are to be held accountable for their actions ,the same as the ordinary man in the street, where the Law Courts have the final say, that is true in most Parliamentary Democracies.
The Prime Minister is now saying he is going to move Heaven and Earth to make sure the DLP never holds the reign of Goverment again is it a Dictatorship in Barbados, Bajans beware, have a look at Chavez in Venezuella President for Life is his ambition, what is Prime Minister Owen Arthurs ? Remember the Prime Minister Owen Arthur’s Goverment wanted to change the Constitution not too long ago. Also people are allowed to have a peacefull protest for their rights, that is how Barbadians got where there are today, peacefull protest, but beware the police and Army might be called with a desist and move order in the year 2007, where are your rights as ordinary Barbadians ?
Most people that take part in peacefull protest expect their rights will be protected under Law, and the purpose of the Police is to observe and make sure the protest remain peacefull. This Goverment is so agitated at present as it has lost its way ,now it will be propaganda as it is said the memory of a Bajan is short. The Goverment could have had Low interest loans for poor black people to build their homes through a contractor of their choice and funds destributed to the progress of the builder, that is my opinion ,Mr Mascoll in his capacity could have been working on such a program instead of Hardwood housing of which I see a cover up , now Mr Murrell is in todays paper saying he is no longer apart of Hardwood Housing. The Minister did not source Lumber , but the stories are different
from Murrell, The Minister .I will attach a statement from the Minister on December 5th 2007.
Thank you for your space.
Such Stupid Comments // December 20, 2007 at 12:28 AM
WIV, HO HO HO,,,,, Merry Christmas
Straight talk // December 20, 2007 at 4:02 AM
WIV:
Nice quiet, well reasoned post.
It’s good to have you back writing in your original style.
Reading with earplugs in was getting tiresome.
Keep up the good work.
(I know you don’t need my encouragement to do that)
Such Stupid Comments // December 20, 2007 at 9:04 AM
When we look for leadership we look towards OWEN ARTHUR, when we want leadersh@t we look toward the LOO
Towards a NEW BEGINING with the BLP and OWEN ARTHUR
Wishing in Vain // December 20, 2007 at 10:16 AM
BREAKING NEWS
WRITS BEING PREPARED AS WE SPEAK.
ELECTIONS WILL BE ON JAN 17 th.
ANNOUNCEMENT DUE TODAY OR TOMORROW.
THANK GOD FINALLY WE GET TO VOTE TO REMOVE THIS PLAGUE FROM AROUND US!!!!!!
Such Stupid Comments // December 20, 2007 at 10:34 AM
TOWARDS A NEW BEGINING — WITH OWEN ARTHUR and the BLP
Wishing in Vain // December 20, 2007 at 10:47 AM
Durant your name suits you to a teeSuch Stupid Comments.
We all know that you are so stuck up ASSCOLL’S rear that you fail to see the light of day.
But you need not unleash such constant nonsense on these sites.
Wishing in Vain // December 20, 2007 at 10:57 AM
The outgoing PM will be addressing the nation at 1.00 pm today to anounce the 17 th as the date.
Wishing in Vain // December 20, 2007 at 11:27 AM
The following article by Yardbroom is one of the best that I have read in somewhile, it explains all the right reasons this clan of crooks need to be removed from the halls of the HOUSE OF ASSEMBLY.
Yardbroom
December 20, 2007 at 8:39 am
When an incumbent Prime Minister, suggest that it is his intention, to ensure that the only opposition party – capable of governing – is never elected to Government, it is a serious cause for concern.
Even if one accepts, that a certain amount of hyperbole is expected during electioneering, one balances that, with the expectation, that a leader of an elected Government, is often expected to be circumspect.
I never thought of our Prime Minister as a spoiler. I expect of him to say, why he wants to lead Barbados, and uppermost in his mind should be not to oppose for opposition sake, but to improve Barbados, and make it a better place for us and future generations.
His legacy then, will be that he served his country well, he was a man above the ordinary. He was able to bring all shades of complexion, and strata of society under one banner, thinking of themselves as Barbadians first, knowing that the Prime Minister held the light of justice, honesty and fair play, which shone like a beacon for all to see. But for ones main focus just to oppose to deny another, I have my doubts if that is something of worth to aspire to.
We must remember that he is speaking of a Party, one of whose previous leaders brought us to independence, and swept away many of the injustices that permeated Barbados society at the time, he is speaking of a Party which gave us National Heroes, whose actions have stood the test of time.
I will not venture into the area of personal invective here, much as I am minded to, I will only note, that the Government is appealing to the electorate, not on what they have done, but on what the Opposition is not capable of doing, what a sad indictment, after more than a decade of governance.
Roger Rabbitt // December 20, 2007 at 12:03 PM
WIV
The PM is addressing the country at 1:00 pm today. What do you think he will say?
Anonymous // December 20, 2007 at 12:04 PM
He ain’t got no choice but to ring the %#$* bell.
Wishing in Vain // December 20, 2007 at 12:42 PM
Roger Rabbitt maybe he plans to apologise for the gross mismanagement of public funds, the corruption, fraud, stealing, explain the numerous COST OVERUNS on the VECO PRISON, DANOS 3S ROAD WORKS PROJECTS, GREENLAND, BATHS,UNFINISHED BULIDING AT NEWTON, cost overruns and court settlement on the building at Warrens, maybe to explain how Noeless Lynch became an overnight multi millionaire he has a whole list of items that he could speak on and each one of them addresses corruption and the dishonesty he is part of.
Wishing in Vain // December 20, 2007 at 1:08 PM
IT IS NOW OFFICIAL 15 th JAN
Wishing in Vain // December 20, 2007 at 1:23 PM
I would like to take this opportunity to wish every candidate of the DLP success and the very best of luck in the upcoming Election.
It is with some sadness that I listened to the former PM opt to use this festive period to announce an election that is a most unreligious.
Wishing in Vain // December 20, 2007 at 1:57 PM
The radio coverage was disappointing as disjointed why would we have been subjected to listening to who can cook what or who is bringing what!!
Georgie Porgie // December 20, 2007 at 3:08 PM
Well seems Thompson did have a say in the matter LOL
He said he was not going back to Parliament until after the election.
Never saw a leader of the opposition bowl such a great doshrah like that yet LOL
Makes Muralitharan look like a baby LOl
Next few weeks should be fun on this forum
Wishing in Vain // December 20, 2007 at 3:21 PM
It is with much amusement that I heard Owing announce the election date today, some of those would go as far as to suggest the decision to call the election was dictated to Owing by the Leader of The Opposition, when he walked out of the house and declared that as far as he was concerned the house was now prorogued and that he was not returning until after the elections when the DLP form the new Gov’t of this island, and that is exactly what has taken place.
Even in his short address today Owing sounds disinterested and tired with politics but he is holding out to halt mottley’s progress, well done Owing well done, keep socking it to her each time she tries to raise her head you just keep knocking her out well done to you.
Wishing in Vain // December 20, 2007 at 3:43 PM
Nothing and not one single action coming from Owing in the past couple years has been one that is creative or exciting he has been made to look like an idiot in so many recent encounters with Mr Thompson, none more so than the encounter with Mr Thompson and the cheque that Owing deposited to his account.
He has been on the back foot every step of the way, Mr Thompson has his game read and is making an idiot of the PM, right down to the date for the election.
Wishing in Vain // December 20, 2007 at 3:59 PM
Is this man loosing his marbles or what?
He makes a speech on SUNDAY and says that he does not want ever to see the return to office of the DLP and two days later he is telling people he never said that.
Where is his brain is it work, does he not remember that the press were present and he had his TV cameras there and they had it live on the web but now he denies he made the comment, this man is over the top in his willingness to lie.
Such Stupid Comments // December 20, 2007 at 4:04 PM
When we look for leadership we look towards OWEN ARTHUR, when we want leadersh@t we look toward the LOO
Towards a NEW BEGINING with the BLP and OWEN ARTHUR
January 15 is the DAY
VOTE BLP all the WAY
Wishing in Vain // December 20, 2007 at 4:16 PM
Hey Durant is this your best defence of your corrupt gang of crooks ?
One would have expected more of you, or have you not been told by ASSCOLL what to say as yet for the day?
Then again with the widespread leves of corruption in your camp it must be a nightmare to defend all your ministers at the same time.
I do not envy you in the least.
Such Stupid Comments // December 21, 2007 at 11:58 AM
WIV, how much you are being paid just to sit down by a computer and write drivel? As CEO it is clear that you have nothing to do. The bathrooms at the Auditorium still needs cleaning. The Building is still leaking and needs repairs.
Surely you can make yourself busy by buying toilet paper etc.
David // December 22, 2007 at 7:19 AM
The question this recent development raises is :what equipment is being used by Murrell? This question is relevant given the cash strap nature of Hardwoods as reported over the last couple months.
Straight talk // December 22, 2007 at 8:48 AM
“The company’s success will not be measured in dollars and cents but by how many houses we make for persons in the lower-income bracket,” he said.
By his own yardstick, Murrell as Hardwood’s CEO has been a dismal failure.
Mascoll said in the House Murrell had built 280-300 houses in Grenada between Oct-Dec 2004.
Yet, with $ 2 million of our money and 53 employees he has only built eleven in 11 months, mostly not completed.
Is Mascoll going to be true to his word “I would do again what I did to assist Anthony Murrell” in the new Market Hill venture?
Somehow I don’t think he’ll be given the opportunity.
Can we have our equipment back Mr Murrell?
Jerome Hinds // December 22, 2007 at 9:00 AM
Very good point…Straight Talk !
These BLP thieves want PELTING WAY everyone of them !
Observing // December 22, 2007 at 4:26 PM
Anyone notice Hoyos say they were getting into “big projects?” Does that mean no more low-income houses from the Hardwood that was started with our money?
And does Murrel really think that he can provide low income solutions after his abysmal failure with $2 million of our dollars?
And David you’re right. What happens to the equipment that is in murerll’s name and being leased, that was bought with our dollars?
And could someone, anyone respond, refute or rebut to any of the allegations made in the no-confidence motion?
Time for someone(s) to be held accountable. If not Mascoll, or Murrell, or Hoyos, then the whole government has to go.
Anonymous // December 23, 2007 at 2:20 AM
When a political party can feel so threatened by the people’s power to hire the services of that Indian clown from RED ADVERTISING to carry the torch for this starved blp party under the name of LEROY AND DAVID among many other names and to spend his day blogging in defence of the ruling party it is clearly stated that they are on a mission to negate the effect of the DLP supporters towards this blog.
Here we have the ruling party throwing money at a foreigner to carry out the services that they require, this is a disgraceful act of the worst kind.
It speaks volumes of the fear that this party has for the voting public of this nation, no wonder arthur was so keen not to have them contest another election on this island and rule from his DICTATORSHIP style and manner.
I would highly suggest calling or emailing him to find out how many other blp assigned names he has in use.
Wishing in Vain // December 24, 2007 at 7:13 AM
Victor R Callender
December 24, 2007 at 2:45 am
I am particularly amazed by the Barbados Labor Party and its political “Mottley Crew.” Owen Arthur is politically punch drunk, and a mere political shadow of what he used to be. The Barbados Labor Party has all chiefs and no indians, hence Arthur hangs on to power rather than stepping aside and offering up fresh blood. He (Arthur) does not trust a single member of his own Party the BLP to carry on the legacy of that Party’s founders. It is wishful thinking to assume that Mia Mottley a political failure of epic magnitude can lead the BLP or Barbadians anywhere. That Ms Mottley has not carried out her ministerial duties with any form of competence lends only to her abysmal lilliputian understanding of efficient government at work. The traitor Mascoll who has become the Prime Minister’s “Stooge Pigeon” or his glorified Parliamentary Secretary is a political nomad. Mr. Mascoll you are a political refugee, the equivalent to “Benedict Arnold.” The day you crossed over was the end of your political career and perhaps the most incomprehensibly stupid move in the history of Barbadian politics. You claim to be numerate Mr. Mascoll, but you did not count the numbers ahead of you for the leadership of the BLP. Mr. Arthur please don’t do Barbadians any favors, leave politics while you do not need the usage of a walker or a cain. The office of Prime Minister and the instruments of power belong to the people of Barbados. Take your money and invest it in Florida, where you’ve already set up trust accounts for your wife and children.
frankology // December 24, 2007 at 8:25 AM
Who is Victor Callender, was this an abstract from our newspapers, is it a letter written to you from the said person for publication? What I am saying is simple, why did Victor Callender not written directly to BU instead of you using your blog name? These are instances where I question if this is a real statement from somone or ……Are you using names of people to substantiate your agenda?
Will the real Vctor Callender represent yourself.
Jerome Hinds // December 24, 2007 at 8:57 AM
Solid points Wishing in Vain .
Now here is another one…..Anthony Murrell leaves HARDWOOD Inc. to form his own company…..yet he tells the NATION NEWS paper that he remains a shareholder of HARDWOOD Inc. and that his new company will be one of the sub – contractors of HARDWOOD Inc. !
YES…..you guessed it !
The LAP DOG that the NATION NEWS paper is printed MURRELL’s statement ……without asking him about…..CONFLICT OF INTEREST !
Only bout here !
And that DRUNKARD of a PM talks about LEADERSHIP….when HARDWOOD Inc.
( a tax payer funded agency ) can be treated in such a manner !
Jerome Hinds // December 24, 2007 at 9:35 AM
When would this TOM – FOOLERY end ????
In 1999 just before the GENERAL ELECTION…..Liz Thompson announced that GREENLAND would be opened in JANUARY 1999 !
That date passed……GREENLAND remain closed !
Just a few weeks ago Liz Thompson announced that GREENLAND would receive it’s first BAG of Garbage on 2 JANUARY 2008 !
Now that date is at hand…..we are being told that GREENLAND would be ready by DECEMBER 2008 !
And how can GREENLAND be within BUDGET…..when there was so much RETROFITTING & DELAYS ??????
TIME………is…..MONEY !
In this case……$$$$$$$ MILLIONS of tax payer $$$$$$ !
And these BLP PARIAHS talking about…..LEADERSHIP ???
There is no LEADERSHIP……if INTEGRITY & ACCOUNTABILTY are absent !!!!!
Barbados…..in TROUBLE !
Let us put a STOP to the ROT !
Anonymous // December 27, 2007 at 2:47 PM
BREAKING NEWS !
Clyde Mascoll just pelt a BIG ROCK at Albert Brandford head !
The reason : Clyde Mascoll ACCUSES Albert Brandford of not telling enough LIES on the HARDWOOD Inc. saga !
Observing // December 27, 2007 at 4:39 PM
elaborate Anonymous. If there is anything to elaborate on. Thank God Brandford was on vacation recently. Saved us from a lot of one sided drivel masquerading as political journalism.
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