Former Prime Minister Arthur with Leader of the Opposition Mia Mottley – courtesy Nation Newspaper
The focus will continue to be on the Democratic Labour Party (DLP) in the coming days, weeks and months; for sure over the next 100 days. Barbadians have very high expectations that the DLP will preside over a government that will be more people centric. The Barbados Labour Party (BLP) fell into the perennial trap of becoming too lofty after a long stint in power. We do not begrudge the DLP their victory, but our citizenry must remain aware that our democracy will only be as strong as an effective opposition.
How quickly will the Barbados Labour Party (BLP) resolve the leadership issue which attracted attention through the just concluded political campaign. We don’t have to rehash the issues like “is mia ready for leadership?” or should we say, “are Barbadians ready for Mia as leader?” What about the Mascoll factor? Will he become a distant memory in the annals of our political history or will he survive his recent setback and rise from the political dust-bin like a colossus?
Historically, the BLP have been able to resolve leadership crises without significant fallout. Owen Arthur has first hand experience of the machinations required to resolve leadership issues within the BLP. Don’t forget that he was the beneficiary of a similar leadership struggle within the BLP when the late Bernard St.John unfortunately died in office. On election night Owen Arthur was non-committal about his future in politics. Reading his body language he seemed a tired man, but we can attribute this to a very intense political where he was the focal point of the issues. Some people feel that there is no one better than Arthur to lead the BLP given his experience as a member of the three blind mice – Simmons, Arthur and Forde.
The purpose of the article is not to become embroiled in the internal decision making of the BLP over who should be their Maximum Leader. We are confident that this is a party which will stand the test of time. We are aware that it is one of the oldest political parties in this part of the world. It did not achieve this longevity by making frivolous decisions which will make it vulnerable. Why are we concerned with what happens to the BLP you are wondering? We all witnessed what a weak DLP opposition a couple years ago almost did to our democracy. In fairness to the DLP they had to battle with the parallel issue of the politics of inclusion.
All Barbadians who were made to wonder whether our democracy would have withstood that period when the DLP almost imploded would not want a rerun anytime soon. It is this point which should be of interest to all Barbadians. It does seem that our stable democracy is bound to how smoothly the BLP will be able to agree to what its future leadership will be.
It therefore gives us great pleasure to learn that the leadership issue of the BLP has been handed over with speed to MIA MOTTLEY. Her appointment was announced today as the Leader of the Opposition.













131 responses so far ↓
Georgie Porgie // January 19, 2008 at 1:12 PM
That was to be expected. Mia’s march has begun.
Bimbro // January 19, 2008 at 1:15 PM
My hope is that Owen will never again, govern this country. In view of all the crimes which are alleged to have been committed during his administrations, Barbadians would be insane to re-elect him as their PM. What, a second shot at being ruled by, the devil?!!!
I pray to god that Barbadians would n’t be so, lacking in judgement!
As for Mia, I don’t know her very, well but have read some worrying commentary. After the Thatcher experience of the UK, I’m not in favour of voting for any politician, JUST BECAUSE SHE’S A WOMAN, but that’s a matter for the BLP and Barbadians!
Hopefully, Arthur will see the inside of a few courts first, before there’s any question of his being re-elected to anything, anyway!!!!
Bimbro // January 19, 2008 at 1:19 PM
Just seen the news about Mia. Well, we’ll get the chance to learn about her, during the next five years. Glad the devil’s gone!!!!
frankology // January 19, 2008 at 1:24 PM
Bimbro, A person is innocent until proven guilty. Why the rush to condemn.
Baps // January 19, 2008 at 1:37 PM
Did any other person find the comic about “Hail the King” offensive or was it just me?
Anonymous // January 19, 2008 at 1:41 PM
For Mia to become a Prime Minister, she will have to change her image and perhaps her biting ways. She may have to get married and have a couple kids and stop the biting.
I really hope that Owen Arthur resigns as soon as possible. As far as I am concerned he did more harm than good. He raped us and stole our money.
I predict that he will now be spending more time in John Moore Shop…I really don’t see him sitting down in a Parliament very long with David Thompson as Prime Minster. I really believe that it was his goal to totally destroy David’s political career.
Anonymous // January 19, 2008 at 2:00 PM
We don’t want a xxxxxxx as any political leader,be it the prime ministership or leader of the opposition.
Mia’s record is sufficent reason for her to be banished from any leadership position.
I hope the BLP ready for the fallout.
Wuhlaw,wuhloss,bare boo bout dey.
e-Tunes // January 19, 2008 at 2:28 PM
Anonymous // January 19, 2008 at 2:00 pm,
Good to see that small-minded idiots like you are TERRIFIED of this great woman.
e-Tunes
frankology // January 19, 2008 at 2:48 PM
This is directed to Anonymous.
It is extremely sickening to hear the constant derrogative bashing of the now opposition. From the outset, I have been indicating that these derailed comments could have been orchestrated by people who could have been used to create reversed behaviour. Simply, a propaganda setup. The elections are won, but you can still see people like Anonymous using the worst descriptive words to someone who the voters place to represent them. This is the reason that the fourth estate will always find difficult in publishing articles.
Are these the type of people who will be spreading the gospel of the DLP? It is better to have respectability for a supporter than vile, derogative humans banding my colours to degrade my party.
frankology // January 19, 2008 at 2:55 PM
Thanks David of BU. This Anonymous, since we do have many characters using the name “Anonymous”. Could he be one of the questionable characters.
Since the word ‘Anonymous” could be used by people who need to hide behind the name “Anonymous”. Would it be possible for you to banish ‘ALL posters with name “Anonymous” and let them use some other posting name.
Bimbro // January 19, 2008 at 3:30 PM
Frankology, where’ve you been? You’ve only got to read what’s occured in Bim, while he’s been at the helm!
I, sincerely, hope that both he and the rest, see the inside of several courts and prisons, before this is all finished.
What has occured has been an affront to all decent Barbadians and I long for the culprits, to pay the price!
Adrian Hinds // January 19, 2008 at 3:43 PM
……Can we ever believe anything the labour party says? They just spent two weeks and millions of dollars in an attempt to convince us that Owen is the best man to lead us, that they were going and moving with Owen now more than ever and so should all of us. They told us that they have a LEADER IN OWEN ARTHUR A MAN IN WHOM THEY ARE WELL PLEASE. So all it took is a defeat at the polls for this big lie to come undone? Anyway this decision was to be expected, as of the 10 opposition members Owen does not have majority support, and Mia will tell you herself how the political leader, and potential LOTO or Prime Minister is chosen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgvPoQC1Mp4
If the people of Barbados do not want this amoral, Obese, freak and champion of Homosexuality and the bashment culture to become their leader, the Leader of the country they must seek to gain the attention of parliament in a very real way to effect a change that would give the people the mandate to choose their leader directly and not by proxy as it is currently with the representative. You are not Royal Mia and if you don’t come clean with the truth of who you are, they are those of us who will do it for you. At the end of the day Barbados must be made fully aware of what they are likely to be getting with as the their leader. And if they do not have a problem with it then neither shall I.
frankology // January 19, 2008 at 3:46 PM
I have been here from the fifties and never missing a political beat. I am not an election follower, but a consistent follower everyday of the year.
Again I state, wait until the forensic examination are complied before pointing fingers.
frankology // January 19, 2008 at 3:54 PM
Adrian, same your bashment for 8 p.m. Give Mia a break, the elections have been won.
Think about it. Suppose you find out that one of your children has a liking for the same sex. How would you adjust, or would you go and hide?
Adrian Hinds // January 19, 2008 at 4:17 PM
frankology // January 19, 2008 at 3:54 pm
Adrian, same your bashment for 8 p.m. Give Mia a break, the elections have been won.
Think about it. Suppose you find out that one of your children has a liking for the same sex. How would you adjust, or would you go and hide?
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I would love it none the less, but i will not lie on it’s behalf, neither will i seek tofoister it on a unsuspecting society as their leader. Full disclosure all the way. The people have a right know all the facts of who they call their leader. …..And no i will not give her a break. You ain see nothing yet.
Bob Fred Peter Edward // January 19, 2008 at 4:17 PM
Adrian Hinds,
We had an election since then, dummy.
If the DLP had lost do you think they would be running Thompson as party leader again, you insufferable dunce?
Bob Fred Peter Edward
Anonymous // January 19, 2008 at 4:24 PM
Language BFPE!
Anonymous // January 19, 2008 at 5:50 PM
David:
Is it possible to ban all contributors by the name of Frankology.
If only to avoid your blog being usurped by the politics of inclusion.
Wishing in Vain // January 19, 2008 at 5:53 PM
My issue with mottley is not only about her alternate lifestyle but more about her abuse of power when she was so entrusted with it.
Her determination to make fellow Barbadians tow the line or else you will have a TAX AND VAT AUDIT, her willingness to instruct persons to alter polling areas to her benefit, her problems with the state department and they not prepared to allow her to sit as the AG are all very questionable acts that she can never put right.
Brenda Francine Pauletta Edwards // January 19, 2008 at 6:13 PM
Wishing in Vain,
YOU SAID: “her problems with the state department”
And what would those be? How come it is only YOU who keeps trying to fool people with such fictitious stories?
Or is it because now that the elections are over you can’t lie anymore about the attendance numbers at political meetings?
Wishing in Vain // January 19, 2008 at 6:20 PM
It is quite obvious to me that the DEMS attracted many thousand more listeners to their meetings than you were able to attract, hence the massive show of faith and support in the vote for the DEMS and throwing your lot out thru the back door.
Anonymous // January 19, 2008 at 6:27 PM
Wishing in Vain,
Look how fast you are retreating from your “state department” lies.
You are nothing but a joker.
Wishing in Vain // January 19, 2008 at 6:34 PM
Not a retreat you clown, but I have told the public what they ought to know the rest will follow, if you think that she is a saint you are more foolish than I could have ever guessed, if you doubt me about her lack of Sainthood you just have to ask xxxxx xxxxxxxx if mottley took advantage of her and did she do unmentionable things to desensitise her.
Anonymous // January 19, 2008 at 6:50 PM
David /BU
You have changed my post beyond recognition,and since when you are so sensitive.
You have written posts with the ‘F’ WORD in it and we the readers had to accept it since it is your blog.
I did no such thing among other comments I used the word lesbian which is a perfectly acceptable word.
Are we to expect heavy censorship here too?
frankology // January 19, 2008 at 8:28 PM
It is quite obvious to me that the DEMS attracted many thousand more listeners to their meetings than you were able to attract, hence the massive show of faith and support in the vote for the DEMS and throwing your lot out thru the back door.
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WIV, you should be smarter than that. Do you mean the elections were rig , thus the reason for the previous government being thrown through the BACK DOOR. I know that we usually fair elections based on democracy.
Please watch the words you use, I have sharpen my neutrality skills.
Wishing in Vain // January 19, 2008 at 8:46 PM
frankology what was the final score line ??
When you work that out then tell me who the public of Barbados wanted and who they threw out !!!
ps
Your neutrality has never been, that in its self is just another of your mistruths.
Wishing in Vain // January 19, 2008 at 9:03 PM
I think if you were honest with your comments you would certainly agree that the Ministry of Health is the most vital Ministry to get back on track and working properly and if this job has been handed to Mr Estwick and he has accepted it then we can honestly say he has taken on the most challenging ministry around and I have every confidence that he will turn it around, as for Mr Kellman as we all know he runs a self centered operation in the north of the island and for him to accept a Ministry will suggest neglect of his business, my understanding of this is that he was offered the Ministry of Labour but refused it for reasons better known to himself, my opinion on this is that to have accepted a Ministry would have created a burden of his operation and this he was not prepared to do, after all his business once taken good care off will be around much longer than elective politics will be.
frankology // January 19, 2008 at 9:04 PM
Your neutrality has never been, that in its self is just another of your mistruths.
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I was listening to see if you will be a senator and become a Minister with responsibility for Communication, strategic planning for propaganda dispensation with responsibility for sensationalism.
Wishing in Vain // January 19, 2008 at 9:12 PM
Maybe I have you would never know, what is sensational about my writings that state that Owing was the most dishonest PM ever to walk these shores and he and his friends conspired to rob the treasury of multi millions to channel these funds to their own bank accounts!!!
Not let us start any discussion re VECO or DANOS 3 S
frankology // January 19, 2008 at 9:15 PM
I am free to discuss the same corruptible practices by these players. But again, this might erode your forensic investigation and then you have to deal with pacifying the financiers.
frankology // January 19, 2008 at 9:26 PM
I have no problem with Estwick as Minister of Health, he is an action man. His only problems are: – we can stand from our homes and hear his board room discussions in Martindales Road. Remember the hospital is a “Silent Zone” and you must refraim from shouting. Nurses are extremely delicate and you must not jump them whilst holding an injection needle with your loud speaking.
frankology // January 19, 2008 at 9:27 PM
I have no problem with Estwick as Minister of Health, he is an action man. His only problems are: – we can stand from our homes and hear his board room discussions in Martindales Road. Remember the hospital is a “Silent Zone” and you must refraim from shouting. Nurses are extremely delicate and you must not jump them whilst holding an injection needle with your loud speaking.
Wishing in Vain // January 19, 2008 at 9:28 PM
Why do you find it necessary to step outside the real world into your imaginary world of make belief and pretend to cover for you short comings, have a look at your post above it is simply silly.
When you are ready to blog with maturity and sense lets know.
I can see that it is going to be long, tough and difficult 5 years ahead for you.
Enjoy your time, you have plenty of it to remake yourself.
frankology // January 19, 2008 at 9:33 PM
Why do you find it necessary to step outside the real world into your imaginary world of make belief and pretend to cover for you short comings, have a look at your post above it is simply silly.
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Nuff long talk by you, with no substance.
Remember, it is easier to spread propaganda and hard to justify facts, thus your problem to deal with your new found position. You have no party to lie about. What a sorry chap you are.
frankology // January 19, 2008 at 9:36 PM
WIV. Beaten to submission.
Come and deal with the composition of the new cabinet and how will it relate to the Manifesto promises.
x x x x // January 19, 2008 at 10:15 PM
From this point onwards you can forget about all the fancy election promises. It will swiftly descend into business as usual in Bajan politics.
“Integrity legislation”, “declaration of assets”, “first 100 days”, “time for change”…. they all sounded real sweet during the election campaign, but now it all comes back down to the ground, down to brass tacks and down to REALITY.
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Donald Duck, Esq // January 19, 2008 at 10:16 PM
will kelly be speaker. if so it will be mock sport in parliament
Donald Duck, Esq // January 19, 2008 at 10:19 PM
ISSUES TO BE DEALT WITH IN FIRST 100 DAYS
Don’t forget the DLP promises to do the following in the first 100 days
Introduce the Agriculture Protection Act that will require a 2/3 majority of both houses of parliament for a change of use of land from agriculture.
Remove VAT from building materials on houses valued up to $400,000.
convene a National Consultation on Education
Donald Duck, Esq // January 19, 2008 at 10:21 PM
IMMEDIATE ACTION PLANS FOR DLP as taken from their manifesto with relevant pages
Labour rights legislation ( page 36)
Anew DLP government will move to immediately enact a comprehensive national Labour Rights legislative compendium which will include the following:
A Full Employment Rights Act
An Alternative Disputes Settlement and Arbitration Committee
A Sexual Harassment in the Workplace Act
National minimum wages legislation
Legislation fully recognizing Trade Unions.
Approval of capital account transactions (page 25)
Immediately review the current Central Bank procedures for approving capital account transactions with a view to simplifying and speeding up the approval (or denial) process for restricted transactions.
Port charges (page 33)
The DLP pledges to immediately re-examine the Port charges with a view to significantly reducing these to manufacturers as they consider them to be a burdensome cost. They say that tonnage dues are charged twice; – on raw materials when imported and again on finished products when being exported.
Integrity legislation (page 48)
Immediately introduce integrity legislation requiring
a declaration of assets by public officials,
a Code of Conduct for Ministers,
a new Freedom of Information law,
amendments to the Defamation laws and
new constitutional provisions to rationalize the powers of the Prime Minister.
Health issues (page 11)
A new DLP Government will immediately embark on a health promotion campaign to sensitize the public to the dangers of unhealthy lifestyles
Anonymous // January 19, 2008 at 11:05 PM
David
With all due respect I DIDNOT WRITE ANY SMUT.
I wrote about lesbianism and drugs and corruption.
Things I have written on here before.
I have never used a curse word – if I have to use a mild expletive eg. sh**t – I delete some words just not to offend.
You and I normally dont get into these tangles so I will put this one down to the stress of administering the blog.
However to say that I am very very diasppointed by this action will be putting it very,very,very mildly.
I find this sudden protection of Mia very curious – and I will reflect on all of this very seriously.
Thank you for your time.
David // January 19, 2008 at 11:11 PM
Anonymous you should know better than to say we are protecting anyone. Do a search on the blog with key words ‘mia mottley’ and see the stories we have written. You made some very dangerous and serious accusations. While we will let Mia’s known sexual inclination pass we will question you on the others. If you have some proof email us. Thats what we always encourage, give us a basis for going that road.
As you know the credibility of the blogs are on trial. Let us push the envelope but do so in a calculated manner.
Work with us man!
cherry2enpowered // January 19, 2008 at 11:18 PM
There are two things going against Mia.
1-Her alternate lifestlye is the talk of the town becos the dear lady is so bold and brazen with it she just does not care.
Dangerous.
2-Anyone that knows her, knows that she like passing money just to consolidate her position, whatever it may be at that point in time.
Also dangerous.
Not the qualities you want in a future PM.
frankology // January 19, 2008 at 11:37 PM
Why is it that we constantly hear about homos and lesbians in the BLP camp. How come we do not hear about any in the DLP camp. I would like to know?
Observing // January 19, 2008 at 11:52 PM
There are two things going against Mia.
1-Her alternate lifestlye is the talk of the town becos the dear lady is so bold and brazen with it she just does not care.
Dangerous.
2-Anyone that knows her, knows that she like passing money just to consolidate her position, whatever it may be at that point in time.
Also dangerous.
Not the qualities you want in a future PM.
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Nuff said. Too many people know of the “moral and ethical failings” of Mia firsthand, not just rumour and hearsay. We’ll see how she handles LOTO for i agree she’s a very capable politician, but, barring a major lifestyle, attitude and/or image change… PM is out of the question. If the good people of Barbados rejected Arthur, they wouldn’t think twice about rejecting Mottley. I know i wouldn’t.
David // January 20, 2008 at 12:00 AM
Observing as far as we are aware Arthur’s government was rejected on the basis of the electors voting for change. No where in any of the post-election analysis have we heard that the morality or immorality for that matter of Arthur was a factor in his defeat.
Now that the mantle of leadership has been passed to Mia we will have to see how she adjust to the task. it is early days yet.
Undertaker // January 20, 2008 at 12:08 AM
Mia has great leadership ability, and she speaks and can debate with the best of them, but I know that alot of people especially women, will reject her and her party because of her “lifestyle”. Unfortunately to get at her you would have to reject the politician in your area, just to not let her party win gov’t. Times like these the american syle of gov’t seems better. Vote for the party leader on either side first, and then vote for the party that you want to win the gov’t later.
Undertaker // January 20, 2008 at 12:09 AM
If anyone has the full list of posts can they blog them, I missed some of them.
David // January 20, 2008 at 12:10 AM
PM names Cabinet
Saturday, 19 January 2008
Prime Minister David Thompson Saturday announced an 18-member Cabinet days after his Democratic Labour Party defeated the Owen Arthur-led Barbados Labour Party in a general election.
The cabinet members, named during a televised address to the nation, are to be sworn in Sunday during a public ceremony at Kensington Oval.
Thompson and Attorney General Freundel Stuart were appointed a day after the elections.
Following is the full list:
Prime Minister and Minister of Finance, Economic Affairs & Development, Labour, Civil Service & Energy – David Thompson, MP
Attorney General and Minister of Home Affairs – Freundel Stuart, MP
Minister of Foreign Affairs, Foreign Trade & International Business – Christopher Sinckler, MP
Minister of State, Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Foreign Trade & International Business – Donville Inniss, MP
Minister of Health, National Insurance & Social Security – Dr. David Estwick, MP
Minister of Education & Human Resource Development – Ronald Jones, MP
Minister of Social Care, Constituency Empowerment & Urban Development – Dr. Dennis Lowe, MP
Minister of State, Ministry of Social Care, Constituency Empowerment & Urban Development – Patrick Todd, MP
Minister of Tourism – Richard Sealy, MP
Minister of Agriculture & Rural Development – Haynesley Benn (to be appointed to the Senate)
Minister of Trade, Industry & Commerce – George Hutson, MP
Minister of Housing and Lands – Michael Lashley, MP
Minister of Family, Youth Affairs, Sport & Environment – Dr. Esther Byer-Suckoo, MP
Minister of Community Development & Culture – Steven Blackett, MP
Minister of Transport, Works and International Transport – John Boyce, MP
Leader of Government Business in the Senate and Minister of State in the Prime Minister’s Office – Maxine McClean (to be appointed to the Senate)
Minister of State in the Prime Minister’s Office with special responsibility for Finance and Energy – Darcy Boyce (to be appointed to the Senate)
Minister of State in the Prime Minister’s Office with special responsibility for Employment, Labour Relations & The Social Partnership – Arnie Walters (to be appointed to the Senate)
CMC
Clyde Mascoll // January 20, 2008 at 12:13 AM
Must Insert Ammo….a.k.a Mia !
She is dangerous………!
Undertaker // January 20, 2008 at 12:14 AM
Although I know that he will not get it, I believe that Kellman deserves the Deputy post, give a man power and he will act differently, Kellman knows that he has been unfaired along the way, so he is just protecting his turf. But no one can deny that he has the heart of the st. lucy folks and barbados first, before party or the inner circle, and so should it be. We have too many yes men around. Kellman would never be a yes man for no one, if he were in my area I would have had to give him the vote.
Jerome Hinds // January 20, 2008 at 12:28 AM
A Cabinet that has been carefully chosen and truly reflects the National , Regional & International thrust of this people / policy focused DLP government.
The astute LEADERSHIP of David John Howard Thompson has begun to RADIATE .
If only FRANKOLOGY…..had held on a while longer !
Too bad…..for showing IMPATIENCE !
Anonymous // January 20, 2008 at 12:51 AM
Jerome Hinds,
Scratch grain?
Jerome Hinds // January 20, 2008 at 12:56 AM
Anonymous // January 20, 2008 at 12:51 am
Jerome Hinds,
Scratch grain?
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Sorry….JOKER !
Scratch Grain is what YARDFOWLS like you & Owen Arthur have been fed by the……ELECTORATE !
Happy eating for the years ahead !
YARDFOWLS , CHARLATANS & PIMPS !
Jerome Hinds // January 20, 2008 at 1:01 AM
Kellman may have missed out because it is difficult to create a Ministry for the ” TOO FEW ” !
Secondly, the issues at hand require more than an ” AIRPORT ” St. Lucy !
Thirdly, what is a working definition of
” KELLMANOMICS ” ???
Finally, the ” DLP IS NOT A ONE MAN SHOW ” !
Jerome Hinds // January 20, 2008 at 1:05 AM
Georgie Porgie // January 19, 2008 at 1:12 pm
That was to be expected. Mia’s march has begun.
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Georgie Porgie,
Should not your sentence read……..Mia’s MUNCH has begun.
Ah……that’s a SOUND BITE !
Undertaker // January 20, 2008 at 1:47 AM
Jerome Hinds // January 20, 2008 at 1:01 am
Kellman may have missed out because it is difficult to create a Ministry for the ” TOO FEW ” !
Secondly, the issues at hand require more than an ” AIRPORT ” St. Lucy !
Thirdly, what is a working definition of
” KELLMANOMICS ” ???
Finally, the ” DLP IS NOT A ONE MAN SHOW ” !
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There is something unique about Kellman, he is what you would call a lucky ace, you have it but don’t always need it, but it can be relied on to get you out of a situation, anyone that listened to the speech in by EWB Statue on the eve of elections would realise that Kellman can be a key man when he wants to be. He should be the rightful leader, so why not give him the next best thing. If you try to alienate him forever then the party would be what suffers, and not Kellman.
Undertaker // January 20, 2008 at 1:49 AM
“KELLMANOMICS” – The simple and easy way of speaking to the small man on big issues in a way than he can understand, and that he would appreciate that he and his X is not forgotten. Whilst also putting forward the views of the people of St. Lucy, and the vision that their leader has for them.
Cancerman // January 20, 2008 at 2:14 AM
I have no issues with what happens between consenting adults behind closed doors – and in the same way the Monica Lewinsky scandal was and is of no significance to the greta leadership of Bill Clinton so should it be for the LOTO.
However I am more concerned that the lessons learnt both at the feet of Owing and her Sandy Lane upbringing will impact on her decision making should she become Prime Minister of this fair land.
However I have faith that persons are able to learn the lessons taught to them and Mia is astute enough to recognise this.
Maybe this dark time in politicis is behind us forever – however with BU and BFPE givinbg us the citizens of Barbados a greater voice, I can sleep better at night.
Bimbro // January 20, 2008 at 4:28 AM
I would love it none the less, but i will not lie on it’s behalf, neither will i seek tofoister it on a unsuspecting society as their leader. Full disclosure all the way. The people have a right know all the facts of who they call their leader. …..And no i will not give her a break. You ain see nothing yet.
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Well said Adrian, after what those creeps have done to Bim during the past 14 years I don’t consider they deserve, any mercy, at all!!!!
Expose the swine. The people deserve to truly, know the character of the people who aspire to lead them! After recent events, few people should know that, better than Barbadians!!!!
Bimbro // January 20, 2008 at 4:33 AM
Donald Duck, Esq // January 19, 2008 at 10:19 pm
ISSUES TO BE DEALT WITH IN FIRST 100 DAYS
Don’t forget the DLP promises to do the following in the first 100 days
Introduce the Agriculture Protection Act that will require a 2/3 majority of both houses of parliament for a change of use of land from agriculture.
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I’m one for speed and efficency! Is this requirement going to enable Bim to proceed at the pace which it needs to, to be competitive!!!!
Donald Duck, Esq // January 20, 2008 at 8:39 AM
Bimbro
It will slow down development. Just wait and see how mr parris’s outfit get a change of use for its agricultural lands it owns. This I am sure will happen within the first 100 days
Adrian Hinds // January 20, 2008 at 10:24 AM
Bob Fred Peter Edward // January 19, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Adrian Hinds,
We had an election since then, dummy.
If the DLP had lost do you think they would be running Thompson as party leader again, you insufferable dunce?
Bob Fred Peter Edward
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Yes this dummy realize we had an election, and that it was during this election that the BLP attempt to sell us on Owen being invigorated, being the best leader both political and parliamentary, their entire campaign was base on this, so they must of believed it. But then again there is politics of Elections and there is reality after the elections. The BLP is simply a party of LIERS. The attempted comparision between Owen’s post election demise and what would have happened to Thompson had he led a losing party into election, doesn’t even concider my argument, for the DLP did not embark on a strategy of a One man presentation to the electorate.
Wishing in Vain // January 20, 2008 at 10:29 AM
Well, well,well what am I hearing today that all is not well within the Opposition camp it was reported to me today that they met on Friday evening at Roebuck Street to select a Leader of the Opposition and George Payne nominated Dale Marshall as Leader and he was supported by Hammy Lashley, Rawle Eastmond, Owing Arthur and Glyne Clarke, this brought the place into an uproar with both of mottley’s parents exploded into heated scenes with mottleys mother being loud and most abusive to Owing and those who supported the Payne / Marshall combination, reports reaching me state the mottley’s were not willing in any way to accept this position for their daughter and responded with loud abuse and vile words.
They were reported to have fought like cats and dogs (Roebuck Street seems to be fighting venue of choice here recently the second fight to have broken out there in as many weeks) to the point that the meeting was abandoned and a new meeting called for yesterday, during the period much discussion took place and mottley’s mother finally had her way and the mottley’s clan and will to control the purse strings of this island will be attached but will have to wait a number of years before they get to do so, we must remember the mottley’s believe that there have a right to rule this country much as the Adams family felt that they did the only difference is that Adams was 100 % man and there was no doubt abot this so unlike mottley who is prepared to try to force Homosexuality and Prostitution down our throats against our will.
Even in Opposition the BLP are fighting thank god they are not in office!!!!
What a sad day we have reached when in persuit of power and wealth they resort to this kind of display in the publics eye.
Adrian Hinds // January 20, 2008 at 10:38 AM
Wishing in Vain // January 19, 2008 at 5:53 pm
My issue with mottley is not only about her alternate lifestyle but more about her abuse of power when she was so entrusted with it.
Her determination to make fellow Barbadians tow the line or else you will have a TAX AND VAT AUDIT, her willingness to instruct persons to alter polling areas to her benefit, her problems with the state department and they not prepared to allow her to sit as the AG are all very questionable acts that she can never put right.
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No body is afraid this freak name Mia, The lingering questions and perceptions about her will be address frontally, The church (not the Anglicans) but as in the body of christ which in Barbados is represented by the pentecostalist base on numbers and membership will be asked to decide on Mia for PM, the families of Barbados will be asked to decide on Mia for PM, Those who appreciate and understand the importance of morals, and the setting of examples in all aspects of life by those who are entrusted with leadership will be called on to decide on Mia for PM, being astute will matter little, her questionable tract record of parliamentary, and legislative achievement will matter. And any person coming into the constituecies seeking to be a representative to parliament will have to verbalize what says they on MIA for PM. A parliamentary vote to Mia for PM will be to signal defeat at the polls in the next election.
Let me start the ball rolling by echoing Chris Sinkcler question to Mia. What says you on the question of Biting? Time to brush your teeth and come clean, Mia Royal.
Adrian Hinds // January 20, 2008 at 10:50 AM
Undertaker // January 20, 2008 at 12:08 am
Mia has great leadership ability, and she speaks and can debate with the best of them, but I know that alot of people especially women, will reject her and her party because of her “lifestyle”. Unfortunately to get at her you would have to reject the politician in your area, just to not let her party win gov’t. Times like these the american syle of gov’t seems better. Vote for the party leader on either side first, and then vote for the party that you want to win the gov’t later.
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Hear Hear, Barbadians have demonstrated the willingness to vote for a leader seperate and distinct from a local representative, but the political class has never been interested in allowing the people to share in the democratic process by being part of the governance of this country. We the people have been confine to the voting booth and so every 5 years as the only role for us in the democratic process. On the question of voting against Mia by way of voting against your local candidate that shares membership to the same political organization as her, has been a demonstrated practice in big way since 1986. Barbadians will vote against a party inspite of the goodness of the local rep. This is most demonstrated in the DLP 24-3 win the BLP 26-2 win, and even in this last election where it is reasonable to say that the outcome demonstrates, a willingness to be rid of the BLP, and some uncertainty about the DLP.
Barbadians continue to refuse to let their Local needs and representation to be superceeded by national needs and the attention that their elected representatives functioning as Ministers of government have so often done. The number of Ministers that were sent packing bares evidence of this.
Adrian Hinds // January 20, 2008 at 11:07 AM
WIV, that don’t sound right. Why would Mia Royal’s parents be at a meeting of the BLP parliamentary team? Surely this Leader would not have their parents fight on their behalf.
Wishing in Vain // January 20, 2008 at 11:21 AM
As reported by an insider with close connections within the grouping.
Wishing in Vain // January 20, 2008 at 11:34 AM
Why do we still have the advert for the blp tv on the Nation online version???
Wishing in Vain // January 20, 2008 at 11:43 AM
To run until ????
Wishing in Vain // January 20, 2008 at 11:55 AM
Could be 5 years!!!!
Just kidding here !!!
Observing // January 20, 2008 at 12:07 PM
You know WIV I think Mia is the right choice given how much energy you seem to be devoting to running her down.
Let’s talk about how Thompson hasn’t named a deputy.
This is a potentially serious ommission. The office of PM has killed two great men. God forbid, what if something should happen to Thompson, what would happen then?
At least the BLP has their issues sorted. Your side has dodged the question completely!
Adrian Hinds // January 20, 2008 at 12:15 PM
does our system now requires a Deputy prime minster? Parliament responsibility is to ensure good and continued government, it is the role of parliament to pick a PM, it the current one becomes incapacitated. Well i should say that this is what real West Minister intends. Party has to much of an influence in our implementation of WM.
Wishing in Vain // January 20, 2008 at 12:39 PM
That is the role of Mr Stuart.
Newbie // January 20, 2008 at 12:43 PM
Thompson will try to buy time, probably with Stuart, until someone emerges, possibly a Sinckler who he seems to be sweet on.
me // January 20, 2008 at 12:56 PM
its amazing that intelligent people can be so bigotted… its also a shame that “a call for change’ by the electorate really simply means a change of faces instead of ATTITUDES!
Homosexuals are deserving of the the same rights as you since they are human. Many Homosexuals have served very well in Bajan politics (as well as all other aspects of life here) in the paST AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO…
I guess now VOB will allow BLP members to be the main moderators on its call in programmes. I also can safely assume that Ms maxine McClean will come clean to the public!
young one // January 20, 2008 at 12:56 PM
WIV you are one sick lifeless person? do you think before you type? your party won, why are you still on the BLP? you should be helpin to find out who theif all the money that you and your party talked about…. looks like the red herrings going up river. i wonder why… 100 days goin to go the road of Hardwood.
i stand in no party or camp… but when the smoke clears all he goin to break out… and it’s then ppl like WIV goin to really have to spin for both parties… .
frankology // January 20, 2008 at 1:52 PM
Young one, I salute you. WIV seems to be reporter for the Dems in the election, he copied large stories for the party that sometimes makes no sense to the article. Now, he find difficulty in writing a twenty line post, reason. He have nothing to criticise.
frankology // January 20, 2008 at 1:55 PM
I have serious reservations in the vile commenters on both sites. How come it was said that the comments came from the Bees – would a party allow people to discredit the party? I say NO. Now the elections has been won, yet we see the same vile comments. My verdict – Propaganda at its finest, but who will benefit? We are suppose to be literate.
ROBOT // January 20, 2008 at 6:23 PM
bimbro ?
what are these crimes that were supposedly committed by Owen Arthur ?
Enlighten me please
If owen was so bad why did the opposition not reveal or hint at this in the parliamentary setting–the house–
Has Owen Arthur done any good for this country or not ?
Some People say Owen is a millionaire
what is the Prime Minister’s salary and allowance
what is the per diem when he travels ??
There are West Indian cricketers who do two tours and come back wid money —nuff money and live happily ever after—ask Philo WALLACE- ask Tino BEST, Ryan HINDS, Adrian GRIFFITH and a whole host of others —are they doing something wrong ?
I t has been widely discussed that David Thompson is well off —-some suspect a millionaire-nothing to doubt
I want to be enlighten
ROBOT // January 20, 2008 at 6:35 PM
Wishing In Vain
it is comments like yours that are going to put these blogs in trouble
It is only a matter of time before legislation is passed to deal with such comments on these blogs . Freedom of expression must have some responsiblity attached to it.
Ah S
Donald Duck, Esq // January 21, 2008 at 12:24 AM
WIV
Mr. Stuart is not the deputy. Thompson wants sinckler in parliament but he is too ashamed to say so.
Bimbro // January 21, 2008 at 3:12 AM
Donald Duck, Esq // January 20, 2008 at 8:39 am
Bimbro
It will slow down development. Just wait and see how mr parris’s outfit get a change of use for its agricultural lands it owns. This I am sure will happen within the first 100 days
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Thanks for the reply, Donald. I, too, worry about the slow speed of decision taking, but, I don’t live there and so have to hope that the locals know, very well, what they’re doing. However, a 2/3 vote of the House seems a pretty, laborious way of reaching such a decision, to me!
Anyhow, it’s for you guys, expecially, who are really, familiar with Bim, to keep them on their toes with your sharp criticisms – which I’m sure that you will!!!!
Bimbro // January 21, 2008 at 3:20 AM
Yes this dummy realize we had an election, and that it was during this election that the BLP attempt to sell us on Owen being invigorated, being the best leader both political and parliamentary, their entire campaign was base on this, so they must of believed it.
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I sympathise with what you’re saying, here, Adrian. I, too, and probably, all of us, were surprised at the speed of Arthur’s resignation. It does make u wonder a little, just how much you can trust anything which they say. However, maybe he just felt the sooner he left and gave somebody else the maximun length of time to make an impression, the better. Also, it could be that he’s just devasted to have lost and could n’t bear to go on!!
Bimbro // January 21, 2008 at 3:35 AM
Thompson does appear to have too, many portfolios. He will, no doubt, have to relinquish some, eventually! Why undertake more than he could reasonably, hope to achieve competently, by himself, and probably, now, waste valuable time and effort in mis-managing whole areas of government – unless it’s the 2 or 3 salaries, which he’s after!
Bim, can’t afford incompetence, in this unscrupulously, competitive day and age!!!!
Bimbro // January 21, 2008 at 8:06 AM
New PM makes an, apparently, impressive start, immediatly to reduce the cost of living!
Well done, Sir!
http://www.nationnews.com/story/341123278963863.php
Such Stupid Comments // January 21, 2008 at 1:37 PM
Yes Bimbro, very impressive. he offered us the rotten fruit and vegetable from Dominica….. Very Impressive,… Well done Sir
Global Voices Online » Barbados: Time for change? // January 21, 2008 at 1:39 PM
[...] She suggested that former deputy PM Mia Mottley might soon find herself at the head of the BLP. And, in fact, as Barbados Underground reported, on 19 January Arthur announced he would step aside, making Mottley Barbados's first female Leader of the Oppos…. [...]
Georgie Porgie // January 21, 2008 at 2:24 PM
SSC
Welcome back man. but I beg to differ
As the son of a Dominican who grew up on fruit and produce from Dominica in the days of the inter island schooners and the Federal baots, I think we can indeed get a lot of good stuff from Dominica cheaply.
In the 70’s Chally Jones used to bring up green bananas which my mom used to buy and sell to the hotels along the St James coast. The problem with Dominica is that they have never invested in canaries, but there is much produce there that is left to rot, because it is not processed, or because there is no market to sell it.
Bajan Free Press // January 21, 2008 at 2:48 PM
Georgie Porgie,
Nature Island Boy.
I do agree with you on that.
We as Caribbean people need to look within ourselves for Caribbean solutions to our problems.
A lot of fresh fruit from Dominica, a lush mountainous island with lots of rainfall and a comparatively small population, ends up going to waste when it could instead be utilised right here in Barbados.
Yet we import tons of fresh produce from Florida and other places in North America.
Bajan Free Press
Bimbro // January 21, 2008 at 2:59 PM
Georgie, you tell him! I wun bother to say any more!!!!
Georgie Porgie // January 21, 2008 at 3:26 PM
In Dominica the bananas with a mere scatch or minor blemish that were thought unfit to go on the Guest boats are dumped in heaps outside of the boxing plants. These bananas are available free to all.
The best mangoes on earth are grown in Dominica, I am convinced.
It is certainly wise to have some interaction between Dominican farmers and Bajan importers. It can not hurt anyone.
Adrian Hinds // January 21, 2008 at 4:33 PM
A for those leaders who engaged in kingmaking by picking a deputy leader when there is no such requirement in our system of West Minister has done so either to their presonal detriment (Owen Arthur) or to the Political party’s detriment in pass the DLP and i believe currently with Mia Mottley the BLP is embarking on a similar mistake.
Observing // January 21, 2008 at 6:15 PM
SSC were you in the Farm when DLPites were shadowing Arthur, Mascoll and Mark Williams? You should be ashamed of yourself. Mascoll got what he deserved.
young one // January 21, 2008 at 10:23 PM
aaaaammmmmmmmmm!!! is it just me but with the good idea of bring “fresh fruit from Dominica”, what happens to the small farmers of Barbados? or them is part of the “monopoly” too?
and why are ppl goin on about a deputy leader? elections done and fish still pentiful bout here. Thompy know what is best, relax ppl.
Georgie Porgie // January 21, 2008 at 10:36 PM
Barbadian small farmers dont grow the fruit that is grown in abundance in Dominica young one.
Do you understand the word monopoly?
Bimbro // January 21, 2008 at 11:39 PM
Hopefully, Thompy’s actions will cover the whole range of the Barbadian’s shopping-basket and not just fruit!
Hurry up, Thompy! Bajans have been complaining about the high cost of living for too, long! Get a move on and deal with the problem!!!!
Gary Cole (aka Tatanka Yotanka) // January 22, 2008 at 8:39 AM
Well Owen made his choice (or did he) and the BLP is in the hands of Mia. The DLP better campaign hard in St.Michael – and i dont think just saying she is gay will win you any votes – i think it will lose votes.
I think it will get very very dirty, and in the next five years the DLP better make some big strides for working class people – cost of living, health care, and the corruption issues that matter to them. A 2/3 majority isnt much and there are a lot of rookies in the cabinet.
So Adrian all this non-sense about never electing Mia as pm- its a very high probability (and the church don’t win no votes for anyone)
I’ll write a bit more on the morality of our politics, and do what i can to clean up a bit…my books are out there..and i’ll keep to the real issues, apart from the B’s and the D’s.
And David i beg to differ, you dont need a strong opposition – i know the argument – but an opposition can be a terrible waste – create smoke where there is no fire and sometimes impeding worthwhile projects just so the government doesnt get any credit. Its very costly in an economy like ours – but that of course depends on the government – so everything is moot in the end – but in this specific instant I wish that David didnt have Mia breathing down his back, i dont think he will be strong enough, and she might win in the end before she has learned the lessons she needs to learn – maybe i’m being presumptuous but ruthlessness and victimization, the whole mottley syndicate needs to be straightened out first. And the only way David can get to that is with a very moral politics, that treats the working class with decency and respect – that’s why you have to approach the gay issue with decency, not with this ridiculous salaciousness.
And you know me, there’s no Deputy PM, that post you offer to Mia – get her out of the BLP. Believe you me Mia will think about it, if it brings her closer to PM. The DLP can clean her up. (that’s a hope and a prayer – but that’s all i have)
As for Motleyism…you better teach the people the truth of how Mottley threatened Grantley, who he was and what he did, the land deals, the evictions, and the threats and the enforcments in the association, his buying of votes and work for the planters, and his very attempts to destroy democracy. The Dlp better get its intelligence going and campaign up and down the country so people know, the apple doesnt fall far from the tree.
Georgie Porgie // January 22, 2008 at 12:06 PM
Gary I suspect that there is much wisdom in your words and more in the mortar than the pestle.
Bimbro // January 23, 2008 at 4:15 AM
It was comforting to read in yesterday’s press that Thompy ‘intends to go after the monopolies which control the importation of food to Bim’!
I can recall, about 20 years ago, reading, to my astonishment, that only one co. could import goods into Bim. I think they were called DaCosta! It sounded so amazing I could hardly, believe it! Thus, when I read about ‘the high cost of living in Bim’, I think to myself, well, is it any wonder!!!!
Can anybody shed any light on this aspect of Bajan life? Have we been being held hostage by just one company for all these years????
Georgie Porgie // January 23, 2008 at 1:19 PM
I can tell you one true story I know.
About ten years ago my son bought cooking oil for his canteen from a young entrepeneur who was seeking importing stuff as a way to make a living. He was allowed to make one import of oil, because more established folk in Bim had the playing field altered.
I have been to trade fairs in NY and sought to purchase stuff for resale in Bim and was told you will have to buy from X or Y in Bdos. Funny thing is though X and Y had the monopoly on the whole range of that companies goods the Bajan importer was only importing one or two of thier products.
Global Voices Online » Barbados: Blogs in Danger? // January 23, 2008 at 2:41 PM
[...] Mottley is now the Leader of the Opposition and while she personally has not resurrected the issue of internet regulation, the topic still [...]
you are kidding aren't you? // January 23, 2008 at 8:21 PM
“Mia has great leadership ability, and she speaks and can debate with the best of them”
Just like the school yard bully Mia carries a lot of weight and a big voice. Unfotuneately big words and no substance does not deliver a credible message.
Bimbro // January 24, 2008 at 12:45 PM
Georgie, thanks for your reply. It strikes me that Bim has been a hostage to these few importers for all of its existence. If that’s true then it’s an incredible situation which I’m amazed the Bajees have tolerated for so long and must be rectified, immediately!!!!
I HOPE THOMPSON IS READING!!!!
Bimbro // January 24, 2008 at 1:04 PM
Just seen this,
http://www.nationnews.com/story/342485297903947.php
have n’t even read it, yet, but ‘our man’ seems to be heading along the right course. However, David, don’t forget about integrity legislation!! You know how important it is both to us and the country as a whole.
So far, you have our blessings!!!!!
Georgie Porgie // January 24, 2008 at 1:06 PM
One problem is that small importers dont have the distributive capacity.
Another problem is that they dont have the money, or access to money. Consequently if your first attempt fails it will be your last.
Sometimes the powers that be dont help.
In 1995 I found a product ideal for primary and junior schools. It looked much like an abacus but it had numbers arranged in such a way that it facilitated learning to count, to add, subtract, multiply and divide. In addition it facilitated the learning of fractions and square roots.
When I showed it to my teacher aquaintances and asked them to tell me what they think they could use it for, they could immediately find things for which it could be employed in teaching Mathematics.
When I showed it to the BLP jackass who said she taught 25 years in primary school she was lost. After all sitting in the Ministry of Education with all the BS about ED- UTEK she could not see it at all .
She could not understand the need to KISS i.e. to keep it simple stupid
Wishing in Vain // January 24, 2008 at 2:42 PM
MAYBE JUST MAYBE WE WILL ALSO HAVE THE PLEASURE OF SENDING OUR SHARE OF THIS CROOKED DEAL TO OUR OWN PRISON AS WELL!!!!
Judge refuses to delay Kott’s date to report for prison term
TERM BEGINS THURSDAY: Judge says ex-lawmaker had time to get his affairs in order.
Daily News staff and wire reports
Published: January 16th, 2008 03:06 AM
Last Modified: January 16th, 2008 10:03 AM
Former state House Speaker Pete Kott must begin his six-year prison term on Thursday.
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Kott, convicted of three public corruption charges, had asked to delay reporting to prison until Feb. 1 so he could be around for the birth of his grandchild. The baby is due next week.
But U.S. District Court Judge John Sedwick on Tuesday denied Kott’s request. He is scheduled to report to a federal prison in Sheridan, Ore.
A federal jury in September convicted Kott of bribery, conspiracy and extortion.
Over the objection of prosecutors, he wasn’t taken into custody immediately.
Prosecutors also objected to any further delay, saying in a court filing that “it is simply time for Kott to face the consequences of his actions.”
Sedwick agreed. Kott’s crimes were serious, he’s had time to put his affairs in order, and he already got special permission to travel outside Alaska for family and personal matters before going to prison, the judge wrote.
Sedwick also said there’s no assurance the child will arrive by the due date Monday.
Kott, a Republican, represented Eagle River in the state House for 14 years.
Georgie Porgie // January 24, 2008 at 5:26 PM
WIV
What does this account have to do with the price of cheese in Bim?
What does it have to do with Mia and our opposition?
Bimbro // January 25, 2008 at 1:47 AM
Sometimes the powers that be dont help.
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Georgie, they must be encouraged to help and hopefully, under this new govt, they will!
Your device sounds interesting. Can u tell us its name so we can do a search on the net, or provide a link?
Bimbro // January 25, 2008 at 3:16 AM
http://www.nationnews.com/story/342485297903947.php
At least it makes a change from Tony Blair’s mantra of ‘Education, Education, Education’, and is, perhaps, a great deal more attainable!
The only education-achievement which I can think that Blair has attained is greater pupil hooliganism to the point of them now considering installing knife and gun detectors in schools! So, much for his ‘Education’ mantra!
Thompy must also, remove obstacles to the free flow of goods into Bim and not have our country being held to ransom by ‘monopoly importers’, who alone can imports goods into Bim!
That is a complete, nonsense, a recipe for continued high prices and we should n’t tolerate it!
Bimbro // January 25, 2008 at 3:30 AM
http://www.nationnews.com/story/342485427203007.php
What an outrageous, instance of vandalism! Bim must be being, too, soft on its criminals! Don’t your authorities secure your vehicles at night & employ the use of security guards & CCTV etc!!!!
I think it’s time to say, “**** the UN! Bring back the whip, the birch and the gallows”!
You would n’t wish Bim to become another Britain, I assure you!!!!
Act now, before it’s too, late!!!!
Bimbro // January 25, 2008 at 3:41 AM
http://www.nationnews.com/story/342647236209058.php
[quote]In addition, with more and more Bajan firms being taken over by Trinidad and Tobago conglomerates, “important decisions are increasingly likely to be taken in neighbouring Trinidad and Tobago rather than Barbados”. [/quote]
Are we, already losing major economic pillars of our society to the Indians of Trinidad & is this acceptable and what does Thompy propose to do about it!!!!
Bimbro // January 25, 2008 at 3:43 AM
It seems that the NationNews does have some use, after all!!!!
Bimbro // January 25, 2008 at 4:12 AM
Taken from the same, ‘Economist’, article:
Now two Trinidad companies are fighting for control of Barbados Shipping & Trading, the island’s biggest conglomerate.
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This CAN NOT AND MUST NOT, BE ALLOWED TO HAPPEN!
THOMPY, TELL THE INIDANS OF TRINI TO “GET STUFFED”! THEY’VE STOLEN ENOUGH OF OUR ENTERPRISE ALREADY!!!!
Anonymous // January 26, 2008 at 8:28 PM
The post of leader of the OPPOSITION has deteriorated to the point that the moraless one now has control.
How low can it get???
When one looks at the real cause for the parties defeat at the last election it would seem from the selection process that they are setting up for a long time in opposition by virtue of their choices to lead the opposition maybe when the move was made to appoint George Payne as the leader of the opposition it may have served the party better than their eventual selection.
This nation will never accept one such as this as a leader of this wonderful country we expect our leaders to travel the high MORAL ground and this is not the case in this selection.
Actually sometimes I am left to ask does this person have ANY MORALS AT ALL?
MANY, MANY QUESTIONS about morals.
Anonymous // January 26, 2008 at 9:17 PM
Anonymous // January 26, 2008 at 8:28 pm,
Do you think that people can’t see how SHALLOW you are?
Try another strategy, because trying to sow division in such a desperate manner as you have attempted simply won’t work.
Bajan to de Bone // January 27, 2008 at 7:55 PM
For big men you all make me sick. Just as the electorate decided that David Thompson should be their Prime Minister they shall decide too whether Mia Mottley should hold that office.
I know one thing for sure, you don’t pelt rocks in an empty breadfruit tree.
Bajans going to be watching both Thompson and Mottley to see how they perform and what their visions are for the future of Barbados.
And by the way I have heard just as much talk about Thompson’s sexual proclivities as I have about Mottley’s. At the end of the day I vote for some one who has my interest and that of Barbados at heart. So don’t get tie up WIV and Adrian. Not all Bajans can be influenced by spin masters like you.
M. Warnock // January 27, 2008 at 8:39 PM
Dear Bajan to the bone,
The problem with Adrian and WIV is not spin, it is that they tell lies as if they are facts. The most charitable view would be that they have been telling them for so long that they have started to believe their own lies and now live in a twilight zone between fantasy and self-delusion.
Who was it who on these pages gave us this tale of Mr. Elliot Mottley and Mrs Amor Mottley volubly objecting to Mia Mottley being passed over in the selection meeting? On these pages was a tale of shouting and more. Mr and Mrs Mottley weren’t even there. Mr. Mottley has not turned up at a political event for some time.
In the selection for Leader of the BLP, Mia Mottley was elected unopposed. Ask any member of the parliamentary party or see if any member of the parliamentary party says something different.
I wonder which parliamentary party, Kellman, Stuart et al is the most united?
This site will remain popular if it remains a voice of scrutiny and opposition and is not overly partisan.
I wish PM Thompson well and I wish that he is given the opportunity to govern.
I also wish that the Leader of the Opposition serves all of us well by keeping our government honest. We shall have to wait and see, but I suspect the opposition have chosen a person with the ability to do that. This is good for Barbados.
Good luck to them both.
David // January 27, 2008 at 8:49 PM
M. Warnock~it is good to see BLP supporters using the blogs to get points across, clarifications etc. We feel that it is one of the many strategies which the DLP used better than the BLP in the just concluded election. It seems like if most of the commenters were DLP supporters. They won the fight on the PR hands down, both Internet and traditional media. We literally begged the BLP supporters to participate but they underestimated the role of the Internet.
Hopefully the mistake will not be repeated. Again now that you are in Opposition we ask you to include the Internet/blogs as part of your Communications Plan/Strategy.
M. Warnock // January 27, 2008 at 9:42 PM
Dear David,
I do not consider myself a BLP supporter, but I was familiar with events in Roebuck Street. I consider myself a Barbadian voter and will make an independent assessment when the time is right.
However, David, I think you are right that the DLP were better than the BLP at using the new media – the arrogance that comes from holding office so long?
I also think the BLP, or anyone else for that matter, are wrong to be in opposition to blogs and must participate and contribute to make them more balanced. But, as you can see from my comments I hope, I am independently minded, and have no official remit, other than striving for the truth.
Mary,
Wishing in Vain // January 28, 2008 at 4:58 AM
Mabey Bridge Scandal Continues to Grow
Wednesday, January 16 2008 @ 07:28 AM EST
Contributed by: Don Winner
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By Mónica Palm and Rafael Pérez for La Prensa – The bridge manufacturer Mabey, of the company Mabey & Johnson Limited, at the moment involved in a corruption scandal in Great Britain, paid more than $5.2 million dollars in “commissions” to a Panamanian company supposedly controlled by Rogelio Dumanoir, who was a Minister of Public Works during the years of the military dictatorship. The payments were made between 30 September 1997 and 19 August 1999 to the company José Hidalgo, S.A., which, according to Mabey – is controlled by Dumanoir. As well, the money was sent to an account in the name of United Management Services in the Royal Bank of Canada in the Bahamas. Dumanoir told La Prensa he does not handle banking accounts in the Bahamas and that he does not have any relationship with the company. (more) (Photo Credit: LA PRENSA/Gabriel Rodríguez)
Editor’s Comment: If you have not heard about this scandal, here’s what’s going on. Back in 1996 ex Panamanian President Ernesto Perez Balladares apparently decided to buy 17 bridges from Mabey & Johnson Limited, a company from England. At that time the sales representative in Panama for Mabey & Johnson Limited was an English expat named Johathan Danos. In the intervening ten years Danos now no longer works for Mabey and has set out on his own. Apparently Danos kept his files on the deals from the Balladares years, and the genesis of this conflict has to do more with a business conflict between Danos and his former employer than an attempt to “whistle blow” against corruption in Panama. This scandal is gaining steam in the UK press and local officials in Panama are just now starting to wake up to the possibility of a crime having been committed in Panama. Anyway, that’s what’s going on, and there will be more about this in the future, to be sure. Apparently, the bridges are sitting on the ground, rusting.
Political Side Note: Remember, there are two strong wings within the PRD. The “old school” wing is controlled by Ernesto “El Toro” Perez Balladares, and the “new school” is controlled by the Secretary General of the PRD, Panamanian President Martin Torrijos. There are a series of party elections coming up soon, the first on 20 January 2008 to elect party delegates. Then there will be an internal election to determine the party’s National Executive Committee (CEN), and then finally a national primary election to determine the one candidate who will run for President in the 2009 national general elections. The entire political strategy of the “Team Martin” wing of the PRD revolves around maintaining control of the party and keeping the “Toro Wing” out of power.
Opportune Political Scandal in England: This scandal in England came about because two businesses are fighting amongst themselves. It would seem obvious that the current administration could take advantage of the fistfight to start their own investigation into corruption in the Balladares administration. As it was recently explained to me by Panama’s Vice President Samuel Lewis Navarro – “Zero Corruption” is an impossible goal in a real and practical world. There will always be some elements of corruption. But obviously starting an investigation into the “Mabey Bridges” scandal here in Panama would probably generate a few dozen headlines pointing towards allegations of corruption in the administration of Ernesto Perez Balladares.
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He admits having received commissions from Mabey, but for $750,000 and not for $5.2 million as alleged by Mabey.
The money – according to Mabey – corresponds to a 15% commission the company Jose Hidalgo, S.A. received for the purchase of 17 Mabey bridges by the Government of Panama in 1997, as a result of the tour made by then Panamanian President Ernesto Perez Balladares to London the previous year.
The “coordinator” of this transaction was then Panamanian Vice President Tomás Gabriel Altamirano Duque.
Later, in October of 1998, Mabey paid another commission to the same company (Jose Hidalgo, S.A.) this time for $13,570 as a commission for a sale worth $150,000 dollars.
The 15% commission paid to Jose’ Hidalgo, S.A. was higher than the normal 10% commission the company usually pays to its sales agents.
These details are reflected in a legal complaint filed by Mabey against their prior sales manager, Johathan Danos, in London.
A source within the Public Ministry said they are following the case to determine if there it merits the opening of a criminal investigation.
Wishing in Vain // January 28, 2008 at 5:05 AM
Court battle over secret export commissions claims
· Company accused of circumventing bribery law
· Ex-manager denies kickbacks and fraud
Read Jonathan Danos’s defence here
Read Mabey’s writ here
David Leigh and Rob Evans
Wednesday January 2, 2008
The Guardian
One of the richest families in Britain is being accused in a courtroom battle of circumventing anti-bribery laws.
The Mabey family firm, whose worldwide empire is based on exports of steel bridges, is accused by its former sales manager of misconduct in sales to Jamaica, the Dominican Republic and Panama.
The former manager, Jonathan Danos, says that large secret payments of “commissions” to middlemen were artificially split to make them look smaller, and thus avoid official scrutiny.
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In all three countries, there was no competitive bidding for contracts, profits were alleged by him to be exceptionally high, and the money had to be borrowed from commercial banks, adding to the heavy debts of poor countries.
Many of Mabey’s sales are backed by the British taxpayer. The loans were guaranteed by the Export Credits Guarantee Department (ECGD), which is part of the Department of Business, Enterprise and Regulatory Reform.
While Danos is making accusations against the company, he himself is being sued by the firm for allegedly pocketing hundreds of thousands of pounds for himself in corrupt kickbacks on the deals.
Mabey got a freezing order preventing the sale of Danos’s luxury home in Notting Hill, west London, last year and went to court. The high court said in a preliminary hearing there was “strong prima facie evidence” of fraud by him.
But Danos, who was awarded the MBE in 2000 for services to British exports, has denied all the claims, and retaliated by filing a detailed account of the devices he alleges were used by the firm to get around anti-bribery laws passed by the British government.
Excessive commissions are a common means of passing on bribes. As a result, British and US authorities generally frown on payments above 5%.
Danos claims that he was ordered to divide an 8.5% commission to be passed to a Jamaican businessman, Deryk Gibson, into two parts – a commission of 5%, and another 3.5% for non-existent “local services”. He was also ordered, he alleged, to similarly split a 17% commission for a deal in the Dominican Republic, where the agent is named as a local businessman, Gilberto Pagan. In a third set of deals, in Panama, commissions were paid at 15%, he alleged, to a bank account in the Bahamas allegedly controlled by another agent, Rogelio Dumanoir.
The Jamaica allegations will be particularly dismaying for the ECGD. Its advisory council conducted a special review of the £17m Jamaica guarantee in 2003, under pressure from anti-corruption campaigners, and concluded: “There is no great cause for concern.”
The then trade minister, Richard Caborn, said at the time: “I am pleased … This work will benefit the people of Kingston and rural areas”.
A Mabey director, Richard Glover, later unsuccessfully tried to persuade the ECGD that the firm should be allowed to keep its agents’ identities secret.
He wrote in 2005: “Exporters should be free to pay legitimate commissions to their agents without the burden of the obligation to provide ECGD with details that are often confidential and commercially sensitive.”
In his court filings, Danos paints in rarely seen detail a picture of a company that regularly paid huge sums to confidential agents to make sales around the world, although he does not directly accuse them of bribery. He says the firm’s founder, Bevil Mabey, who is 90, “established close relationships with high-level officials … and even in some cases vice-presidents and presidents”.
But when Britain passed an anti-bribery law in 2001, the founder’s son, David Mabey, changed the company’s procedures. Danos says he was told the “artificial split” in commission was “as a result of a need to comply with” the law, the Anti-Terrorism Crime and Security Act 2001. US lawyers gave advice, Danos claimed, that commissions above 5% would also lead to suspicions by the US authorities of “bribery or inducements”.
The Mabey companies have previously been accused by anti-corruption campaigners of overcharging for sales of bridges and flyovers in the Philippines and Papua New Guinea.
They are still also under investigation by the Serious Fraud Office over allegations of kickbacks paid to the Saddam regime in the oil-for-food scandal. The UN Volcker report alleged that Mabey paid $202,000 (about £102,000) in return for a $3.6m Iraqi contract. The company says there is no truth in the allegations.
The Mabey family is estimated to be worth £310m. The most recent accounts show family members drew out £7m in personal dividends in the last year. The company regularly donates to the Conservative party.
A spokesman for Mabey said: “This case is about an alleged fraud on the company. We take the strongest possible action against employees and former employees who breach our policy or the law.
“This case is not about allegations of bribery and corruption. However, we have not, do not and will not pay or authorise the payment of bribes or any other form of unlawful inducement. We have a comprehensive anti-corruption policy with procedures which are vigorously enforced.”
Mabey is negotiating with Danos in private to try to settle the case before it comes to court.
Anti-corruption campaigner Sue Hawley, of the Corner House group, said last night: “Mabey has consistently been accused of sharp practices, and untransparent contract procedures.
“If companies can evade scrutiny of their commission payments by hiding them away as ‘local services’, this would blow a very large hole in the ECGD’s anti-corruption processes.”
Wishing in Vain // January 28, 2008 at 5:08 AM
NO WONDER ARTHUR WAS MOTIVATED IN A VERY SPECIAL WAY TO HIRE THIS CROOK TO HELP HIS BANK ACCOUNT AND THE BANK ACCOUNT OF HALLAM NICHOLLS, STEVEN HOBSON, CO WILLIAMS, BIZZY WILLIAMS NOTHING LESS NOTHING MORE BUT REAL FRAUD.
Wishing in Vain // January 28, 2008 at 5:10 AM
THIS REALLY SPEKS VOLUMES ABOUT THE WILLINGNESS TO CORRUPT.
The former manager, Jonathan Danos, says that large secret payments of “commissions” to middlemen were artificially split to make them look smaller, and thus avoid official scrutiny.
In all three countries, there was no competitive bidding for contracts, profits were alleged by him to be exceptionally high, and the money had to be borrowed from commercial banks, adding to the heavy debts of poor countries.
Wishing in Vain // January 29, 2008 at 8:26 AM
M. Warnock you are a stranger to the truth my friend, Mr Mottley attended the Heros’s square meeting of the DLP so yes her family have been active and present at the campaign and part and parcel of mottley’s election campaign.
Mary Warnock // January 29, 2008 at 8:48 AM
of course her family have been involved, I said Elliot Mottley does not get involved in political meetings.You claim he was at the BLP headquarters cussing and fighting. Find one person to say what you said in public. No one will becuase you made it all up. That is what you do. Make up stories for the gullible to follow. No one should believe anything you write. You ave no credibility.
Anonymous // January 29, 2008 at 8:50 AM
It is a lie that the vote for Mia as leader of the BLP was unanimous.
The Vote was split 5 – 5 and in the end one went over.
Even pudding and souse which is mostly right had the information.
Party hierachy didnot want mia as the leader because they know bajans don’t like her lifestyle and will not support her or the party into victory if she is at the head.
Mary Warnock // January 29, 2008 at 9:23 AM
If five people voted against Mia, find one of them to say there was a vote and it was not unanimous, they need not say any more, there is no disrespect in democracy. You will not find one. Owen recommended her and it was unopposed. There is no surprise in that.
I heard that Kellman refused to endorse Thompson as DLP leader the day after the election. I do not know and was not there and will not assert that was what happened for sure, and I am willing to hear someone who was there, but there would also be no surprise in that, and it would help to explain Thompson’s decision not to put Kellman in his cabinet.
Kellman is clearly not up for the collective responsibility of cabinet but he should be made head of some St Lucy Development Agency, then everyone would be happy and he could practice Kellmanomics to his heart’s content. The rest of us can observe. You never know, it might work.
Bimbro // January 29, 2008 at 9:30 AM
Can’t be sure, but inclined to think if I were Thompson I’d have been absolutely, delighted to hear that MIA MOTLEY had been appointed new, leader of the Dems.
I might be thinking, “well, that’s my job guaranteed for at least the next ten years”!!!!
Find it difficult to imagine Bajans electing her as PM, but then, I don’t live there, anymore, so could be wrong!!!!
Wishing in Vain // January 29, 2008 at 3:04 PM
Mary Warnock I said Elliot Mottley does not get involved in political meetings.
And I state again for clarity, Mr Mottley attended the Heros’s square meeting of the DLP so yes her family have been active and present at the campaign and part and parcel of mottley’s election campaign.
Wishing in Vain // January 29, 2008 at 3:10 PM
during the period much discussion took place The comment below was what I said and I live by, so in future when you attempt to quote please do so with some seriousness, as I said mottley’s mother NOT HER FATHER was the one who created the stir not HER FATHER as you stated.
mottley’s mother finally had her way and the mottley’s clan and will to control the purse strings of this island will be attached but will have to wait a number of years before they get to do so, we must remember the mottley’s believe that there have a right to rule this country.
Mary Warnock // January 29, 2008 at 4:19 PM
On balance I think blogs are a good and we should all support them, but WIV is the bad side of blog. People like WIV hiding behind annonymity to say something that is not true – not something that is unpopular or taboo and so they need anonymity, but something untrue.
WIV is making a point of observable fact. Were Mr and Mrs Mottley at the selection meeting, was there a split vote and in one of our two great parties a selection was forced upon them. This is one of those very serious, easily verifiable pieces of fact. So, given the seriousness of the assertion, find one member of the parliamentary person who has said publicly that there was a contest and a vote – they dont need to say who they voted for.
There is no reason for anyone to be ashamed of a vote in a selection process, it is a sign of competition and democracy. Until WIV can point to this quote, I urge him to stop wasting everybody elses time and space so we can discuss some real things.
Mary