Attorney General Fruendel Stuart Emasculates Former Prime Minister Owen Arthur with Just Words

Source: BU Family member Adrian Hinds

We have NEVER published a speech on BU since our start-up. We have always tried to expressed our opinions on the many issues affecting our PEOPLE. However we have decided to make an exception in the case of the speech delivered by Attorney General Freundel Stuart in the just concluded Budget Debate. This is a speech which has come from a DLP politician who was thought by the BLP to not have been fully onboard the DLP train during the last general election. Our recollection is that he uttered some public statements which were very unflattering to then colleague David Thompson.

In light of the foregoing we agree with BU commenters who have been ‘turned-on’ by this contribution by Stuart. Our interest in the speech does not border on any partisan leaning, but more so what it represents. How a deep thinker like Stuart used words to emasculate the former Prime Minister, who not long ago strode the Lower House like a colossus.

The contribution of Attorney General Freundel Stuart to the gelling and molding of a new government will be critical as he takes on the role of elder in the young government. We enjoyed the speech delivered by Attorney General Stuart which was delivered with the flair to which some of us were accustomed from our 70’s parliament. These are troubling economic times, the knowledge that a man of deep thinking like our Attorney General sits in our cabinet is comforting . His demonstrated wisdom will be required.

Here is the speech compliments of the Advocate Newspaper:

I have listened to, with amused interest, to the Honourable Member for St. Peter who has delivered economic and policy statements in this Chamber for the last 14 years and as he spoke I kept asking myself if all that he was saying was true, what it was that the people of Barbados was dissatisfied about in the month of January.

What it was that they were dissatisfied about for the last three/four years in this country if all of these solutions were within his embrace. Are the people of Barbados stupid? Dont they know when they are feeling pain? Dont they know when a government has divorced itself from their interests? Dont they know when the policies of a government are inimical to their ideals? And I am prepared to err with the people of Barbados rather than to get swept along by all that I heard from the Member for St. Peter over the last half of an hour.

The most reassuring part of the Member’s speech was that no private citizen in this country had to fear tonight being abused from the floor of this Chamber. No Civil Servant had to endure today  although telephone calls were made over the last few days  any threats from the Member for St. Peter and for the very simple reason that he spoke in this Chamber tonight as a naked man, stripped down to the skin, of all of the arrogance and all of the hubris that the people of Barbados had to endure particularly over the last ten years.

He did not even speak in here tonight as a man with any special motivation to see the Democratic Labour Party never rule Barbados again. Even that was missing from the contribution which he made to this debate. And if there is any lesson in all of this it is that we should never forget the source of our power. We should always remember that power comes from the people. It is theirs to give and theirs to withdraw.

So tonight, this very lonely man stood up in this Chamber, can reach out and touch no one in Barbados really, not even anyone on his side of the House, because when I survey, not the wondrous Cross, but the Opposition benches, the Member for St. Michael North has no particular reason to love him since he had to throw a Cabinet position back in his face. He cannot expect the affection of the Honourable Member for St. Thomas since the Member for St. Michael North East has pre-empted that affection.

The Member for St. James North has been treated like a football, abused and insulted by the Member for St. Peter for the last ten years or so and I know whereof I speak; and although the Member for St. James North is perhaps the most rounded and most intelligent politician in the Barbados Labour Party, he has had to take insults and abuse from the Member for St. Peter for a good ten/twelve years and tonight sits in his seat a man of sorrow and acquainted with grief. The Member for St. George North, of course, is perhaps the only friend that the Member for St. Peter has on that side and for obvious reasons. Their habits are not dissimilar. Missing from his seat is the Member for St. Andrew.

Now I have to congratulate the Member for St. John because whatever else this Budget did not do, it certainly made the dumb to speak. So the age of miracles is not ceased. The Member for St. Andrew stood up in this Chamber today and made a full speech. But he too has been at the receiving end of the implacable ire and rage and spite in some cases, of the Member for St. Peter, and you know I dont think anybody in Barbados rejoices more than the Member for St. Andrew that the nakedness of the Member for St. Peter is now so cruelly exposed.

The Member for St. Joseph  well, he will follow anything. You dont have to bother about him. He will follow anything; but I know this: the Member for St. Michael North East, too, was at the receiving end of no small bit of undermining abuse, backstabbing from the Member for St. Peter. Again I know whereof I speak and the Member for St. Michael North East also knows whereof I speak. Politeness may make her nod her head to say no and I appreciate the politeness, but I know whereof I speak.

So tonight, what we saw in here was the unmasking of power and I hope that all Barbadians looking on, listening to this Debate would have learnt the lesson that he that humbleth himself shall be exalted but he that exalteth himself shall be abased.

Having said that Mr. Speaker, I think it bears reminding the country that the Government responsible for the Financial Statement and Budgetary Proposals for this year has been in office for 175 days today  175 days. And listening to the speeches coming from the other side, with the exception, of course, of the speech for the Member for St. Michael South East, one got the impression that all of the manifesto pledges of the Democratic Labour Party should have been satisfied in 175 days.

So, as the Member for St. Michael North East ended her 3 hour and 10 minutes speech, as she entered into her peroration  perhaps I should withdraw the word ‘peroration’, that word I think is reserved for speeches that are well structured and elegantly delivered. I should say as she entered into her perspiration, we heard how the policemen are not happy and the nurses are not happy and the teachers have been let down because the DLP has not fulfilled the promises it made in its manifesto  in 175 days!

We came to office on the 16th day of January 2008. There were just under 30 000 people in Barbados waiting on the National Housing Corporation [NHC] for either a house or a house spot. This Government is being chastised tonight and has been chastised ever since yesterday evening for not providing just under 30 000 houses or house spots to people in Barbados in 175 days!

When we came to office on the 16th of January, even using the figures relied on by us from the other side, there were about 50 000 people in this country trying to find jobs. Every single member on this side of the House knows that when you go to your constituency clinics that is what you hear about  jobs or houses or house spots. In 175 days the DLP in Government was supposed to provide 14 or 15 000 jobs.

When we came to office on the 16th January, the current account deficit was to the tune of about $485 million. This Government in 175 days was supposed to wipe out that deficit so that it could attract the praise and kudos of the Opposition. When we came to office, the inflation rate was about 4.4 %. We left office in 1994 with the inflation rate at 0.1%, came back and found it at 4.4% and we were supposed to, in 175 days, wipe out all of that so that the other side of the House could stand up and say how great a Government the Democratic Labour Party was. Can all of this be for real? O judgement thou art fled to brutish beast and men has lost their reason.

But the speech of the Member for St. Michael North East, which was the leading speech delivered on that side of the House, lasted 3 hours and 10 minutes and if I have to confess, I am entitled to an opinion like any other Barbadian, I thought it was a very childish speech and that is a trajectory on which I cannot make contact with the Member for St. Michael North East.

I have always tried my best never to forget how to be childlike but I frown on bringing childishness this far into my adulthood. That is why, with apologies to St. Paul, I have always felt able to quote that famous passage in his Corinthian letter: When I was a child I spake as a child, understood as a child and thought as a child, but now that I am become a man I have put away all childish things.

“That is perhaps the fundamental distinction between the Member for St. Michael North East and myself, because even though she may have become a man, she has not yet put away all childish things.

Now the policy of the Government revolves around two concepts: the concept of family and the concept of social care. You cannot understand what is contained in the Financial Statement and Budgetary Proposals for 2008 unless you understand and can relate the concept of family and the concept of social care. For the last 14 years we have had to listen to a politics rooted in arid arithmetic that really had very little to do with the hot immediacies of peoples’ everyday lives.

What the DLP has tried  and it doesnt even have to try because this has been our policy ever since the inception of the DLP  was to restore politics to its human dimension where we can get back to the use of power, not to satisfy abstractions, but to deal with the real concerns of actual men and women.

We start from the position that in any post-colonial society you have to deal with an inheritance, a social contradiction, an economic contradiction, an inheritance of colonialism and in all post-colonial societies, certainly the ones in the Caribbean  and it still manifests even in the great United States of America  the subject peoples and, in the case of the Caribbean the subject peoples are the majority, the demographic majority in the society is at one and the same time not just a numerical majority but it is also an economic and sociological minority; and the demographic minority is an economic and sociological majority.

That is a fact of life in all post-colonial societies in this region, whether the colonising power was the French, the British, the Spanish or whoever. That is the reality in the Caribbean and in Latin America as well. And public policy therefore has to target the vulnerable wherever the vulnerable can be found.

For the last 14 years we have had a version of economics  I dont call it economics. I call it arithmetic which started from the position that as long as you fatten people from the top there would be a spillover and people at the bottom would necessarily get the crumbs from their table the so-called trickle down variable of economics. I believe the liberal economist J.K. Galbraith put it beautifully when he said that trickle down economics is another way of saying that if you want to give the birds more feed you have to give the horse more oats. And that is really what has governed Barbados for the last 14 years.

97 responses to “Attorney General Fruendel Stuart Emasculates Former Prime Minister Owen Arthur with Just Words

  1. Wishing In Vain

    Reports reaching me minutes ago state that on Friday the former PM Owing was seen at Hammy Lashleys home in Halls Road from reports he was begging Hammy not to continue to side swipe the frauds of the blp but the reportsd also state that Hammy is most upset and dissapointed with his party and will not be muzzled because as he said the DLP have done what the blp failed to do in 14 years in office and that is have a heart for the weaker ones in society and to provide relief and compassion for the needy.
    Instead we are forced to listen to the short runt George Payne complain for he and Dale Marshall about how they are to apply the six dollars and change to the billings they have no concern about the people that elected them they are more concerned about their bank accounts and how it affects their bank account.

    I say it is really sad when lawyers such as Pain and Marshall can find nothing else to discuss but what affects their personel well being.

  2. Jukecheckedeyskirt

    You got to respect Hammy La. He stands up for what he believes to be right and will not stiffle his conscience for the sake of what he deems wrong. Hammy La is the peoples politician, a trade mark that has served him well in his long standing political career. It is clear that he is not a victim of influential persuasions but one who follows the rule of justice and fair play. Maybe members of the BLP club can take a few lessons from the Peoples Politician. Serve the people and not yourselves.

  3. wiv
    Instead we are forced to listen to the short runt George Payne complain for he and Dale Marshall about how they are to apply the six dollars and change to the billings they have no concern about the people that elected them they are more concerned about their bank accounts and how it affects their bank account.
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    Is George Payne the twin brother of Dale Marshall.? These Mutt and Jeff clowns act as one speak as one and never differ on anything. Uncanny! Payne a very runtish short man indeed tends to lead and Marshall a much taller man looks the follower. We dont need these copy cat self servers in the house. Independent thinkers like Hammie la serve us better.

  4. What Taxes what – lol to borrow from bush tea

    you Don’t have to buy cigarettes or rum. mind u i love a cold pint or a vodka and tonic or an aged whiskey and soda BUT I cant be asking for a tax ease in these trying times to drink rum.

    my grandmother say all alcohol is rum hence the use of the term.

    you have to make choices so you can party all you like but just know that the government will take a bigger share from you if you do.

    road tax – has been at that figure for 15 – 17 years maybe more. It had to be raised . Was it raised too much ? no i dont think so. if you can find $150 to go to soca on the hill, VIP and $60 – $80 then I think that you can find an extra $135 to keep your car on the road.

    the professional fees – they were getting away with murder. Imagine a dentist or a doctor with a lucrative practice paying only $350-$500 to operate and a funeral director only $50. simply not realistic.

    cell phone tax – if you can find the money to buy a $700 cell phone or to buy $30 in prepaid cards a month or to have 2 or 3 cellphones then you can give the government $4 per month

  5. people will still find $400-500 to jump kadooment day and fete weekend after weekend so tell me who the taxes killing.

  6. Directed 2 REAL TING
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    When someone can make so much diatribe about not seeing any problems with increases in taxes, we can see that this person is wearing partisan glasses. Road taxes from $265.00 to $400.00 and you say that’s OK. If you want to find out the feelings of Barbadians, ask your neighbours, your family and let us know the answers.

  7. Real Ting, are you retired? Your answer will allow me to ask a fundamental question.

  8. The taxing of cell phones, cigarettes, cars, alchohol is great because I don’t deal with any of these. The professionals must be made to pay more to the gov’t and to stop them from passing on the increases there should be fee controls issued by the state. The gov’t should determine the fee for a doctor visit or a lawyer’s fee.

  9. I ain’t the same anonymous as the one before. I fergot to type in a name.

  10. Is Hammie La that faithful to the disadvantaged or is he concentrating on personality and media theatrics? A clear example was the highway issue. We had a Meeting with the major players and instead of representation by the honourable member assisting the constituents affected by the dangers of the flyovers and the under/over passes, he proceeded to pat himself on the back and ignore the pain by the residents. Mr. Lashley hates the background, thus his performing act to get in the ruling party. He was adamant that his constituents give him the approval. Did he had a meeting with any of the 2,476 voters who placed a tick on the ballot paper for him? My problem, is Hammie ready to jump? If the answer is positive, will we call it ‘inclusion’ or should we state that he is a ‘turncoat’ or ‘recreant’ politician who loves to be in the limelight and in power. If I was the PM, based on his critical behaviour of the party that nurtured him first and that is the DLP and 11 years later he is ready to beg for a lodging.

  11. tell me why,

    No I am not

  12. Anonymous,

    its not a diatribe, All of the taxes are avoidable or can be negated through lifestyle choices and paying $33 a month to put your car on the road is not excessive. if you want to say that the level of the increase was too much too soon i can understand that but that is invariably the situationwhen a tax remains constant for an inordinately long period of time.

    i am not partisan, never will be partisan and resent being classified as such. The truth is however , as a middle class income earner i have to admit that there is precious little in the budget to benefit me as an individual but given the economic climate I expected as such. What I will say and i am thankful of this is that there was also very little in it to take from me.

  13. Freundel Stuart’s speech was brilliant and showed that Arthur and that blp gang really did nothing but bad for Barbados. Prime Minister David Thompson is working hard to make life better for people like me, a young uwi student.

  14. Directed 2 Real Ting
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    Since you might be gainfully employed, I hope…., why are you so comfortable with these taxes. Do you realise that after a parent completed paying fees at at UWI and now will be burdened with an exorbitant licence fee and the graduate ain’t even make a cent as yet.

    Also with the additional $135.00 in road tax, an addition $50.00 per month in Utilities, an additional $100.00 in groceries, additional fuel cost and all the underlying price increases and you see no problem with these taxes.

  15. if you can find $150 to go to soca on the hill, VIP and $60 – $8
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    nonsense ! foolishness ! gooblypoop

    not everyone goes to soca hill
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    71% of people polled were against this mugget , referred to as a budget
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    all of you who defending this mugget are people who voted for the the DLP and are sorry NOW!

  16. if you want to say that the level of the increase was too much too soon i can understand that
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    The operative word that I have been constantly using is ‘exorbitant’. If you agreed in principle that the increase were too much in one go, I can firmly state that you agree with me that the taxes were reckless.

  17. Prime Minister David Thompson is working hard to make life better for people like me, a young uwi student.
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    So I can firmly state that when you finish UWI and become a doctor or druggist or an architect and will have to scrape up $750.00 licence fees and if you purchase a new car what about the environmental levy of $1,500.00 along with $400.00 road tax. Before I forget, gas gone up. The reason you are not feeling the pain is due to your parents supporting your lifestyle.

    Just wait until you become responsible for your future and having to pay your own bills.

  18. They are going to complain about $750? My cousin is a draftman and he does charge $2500 for one set of house plans. He sometimes does two sets of plans a month! If the goverment dont get some money then uwi fees will go up and only rich people children will get degrees and I got two younger sisters that still in school and my mother will be glad for the ease in bus fare.

    The blp is worried that they going only get 4 seats next election ,Eastmond, Hammie, Payne, Clarke and even Arthur in bare trouble.

  19. tell me why, think before you talk,

    Any professional coming out of Uwi can get a licence without working experience.

    So any surveyor, doctor, engineer cant get a licence without working and obtaining the relevant experience.

    Accountants even worse since they have to do and pass professional exams and get work experience before getting a designation. And then in order to get a practising license they then have to spend a certain amount of time in a recognised Big 4 accounting firm before they qualify. So you talking ish bout coming out of UWI and being burdened with paying for a license right away.

    Secondly almost all firms which employ professionals pay their license fees for them. So most likely if you are paying yourself you are running a practice and if you are running a practice you can afford to pay $2500 a month.

    finally i dont agree with you at all. What i am saying is that if you make the point of the road tax increases being too much too soon you may have a well reasoned point but it comes down to a matter of approach. u may prefer to increase the tax incrementally over 2 or 3 years until it reaches the $400 while another person may decide to increase it at once because it was too low; had not been adjusted in recent times, and was a good way to raise government revenue

  20. sorry first line should read
    “Any professional coming out of Uwi cannot get a licence without first obtaining relevant working experience”

  21. Tell me Why

    Would you be making these callous statements in 2009 when these fees start affecting us. Real Ting, will your brother still get the $5,000.00 per month in house plans when the contraction of the country begin. Or if your family working a professional company and the company paying these fees. What if these companies start contracting, don’t you feel that dismissal will be eminent?

    Anyway, if you all are relaxed with the increases in taxes that is your fundamental rights. But me. I damn vexed. I have nothing else to say.

  22. Anon

    I think that they should call George Payne and Dale Marshall..the long and short of it LOL!!

    Wuh wunna tink!!!

  23. its obvious you would have nothing more to say.

    you cant seriously think that $2500 per professional will affect a firms bottom line especially when the average professional bills hundreds of thousands of dollars in fees a year.

    do you understand that a professional accounting firm charges around $135 to $170 a day for an auditing assistant and around $300 to $450 a day for a new professional accountant.

    Do you understand that for a simple non-problematic survey lasting half a day an independent surveyor will charge $800 – 1000 while a firm charges more and this is for a small one-lot survey.

    do you know that engineers bill a percentage of the building cost; so imagine the fees on a 4450,000 house or a 1 million apartment building or a 20 million office complex.

    Professionals are guaranteed an exclusive monopoly over certain services. There are certain functions which are mandated through legislation by government and companies and persons have to pay these professionals to perform these functions. there is therefore always a high level of demand for their services.

    furthermore in the true way of man lots of professionals dont report income for the under the table jobs and some even avoid reporting income for over the table jobs.
    I have a social conscience and I am a young professional from humble origins. WE CAN AFFRORD TO PAY $2000 MORE A YEAR IN FEES.

  24. ADRIAN HINDS !

    ROBOT does not lie unless what was fed to the ROBOT is a lie

    ROBOT -DOES -NOT- LIE
    ROBOT -is correct-about the men on the block and what was said

  25. Real Ting, you will soon realise that TMY has his own Zip Code.
    I don’t know if my income qualifies as being middle income but I know that a gov’t/ country needs taxes to do its business.
    If I could advise the gov’t I would have recommended a raise in bus fare and the free ride for the school children. Some things might need to be revisited though but they will work it out.
    Still I am more concerned with my budget than the govt’s. Unless the ship really sinks I am sure survival or even thriving is a given.

  26. SAM GANGEE !

    THE VAT is supposed to take care of taxation and bring all those who were left out before vat , into the tax net and that is why Owen did not impose those silly taxes such as a bicycle tax as thompson has done now.

    you all are too damn partisan and if this foolishness continue it is going to end in physical violence much like what happens in other countries: people refusing to be objective because they support a certain political party much like how one would support a sports team.
    this is ignorance pure and simple and it bothers me. a

    already in the last election we saw the emergence of the party colour awareness and with t-h-om-p-$ON’S OLD SCHOOL style politics of vitimisation and villification this situation can get worse.

    we need to show some maturity
    a bicycle tax ?
    next time it will be dog licences because he seem to have forgotten them so the dogs barely get away but even the dogs t-h-om-p-$ON will tax in his future mugget

    what with all the negative things happening in barbados: homosexuals, minibus foolishness, high prices, uncalled for taxes, immigration matters (guyanese) etc
    what is going to become of sweet little bim ?

  27. I see complaints again about the sharp increase in road taxes. Was the increase too sharp? Maybe, but Barbadians cannot expect to continue to believe that they can get something for little or nothing in these trying times. As for the increase from $10.00 to $100.00 for the visitor’s permits I personally have no problem with it. The visitor is usually given the option of having the cost of the visitor’s permit built into the total rental cost, and basically the average visitor is not going to feel it or complain when he/she is renting a vehicle. Persons who are coming to Barbados on vacation know that operating costs are up all over the world. Do you really think that they would allow $50.00 US to spoil their vacation? I believe the rental car companies are using this increase as a platform and eventual excuse to raise the rates down the road. It is just like the departure tax. People were complaining about the increase and the best thing that was done was to incorporate it into the cost of the airline ticket. We are always going to have the poor in society but I am sure that persons who are complaining vociferously about the vehicle tax increase need to understand that when the time comes priority must dictate, i.e save the extra $135.00 or spend it on luxuries. That’s only my opinion!!

  28. Wouldn’t it have made sense to have a Term pass for students at a nominal fee instead of free rides?

    The Term pass would allow them unlimited bus rides (including the weekend even if they aren’t in school clothes). This would mean that the Transport Board would still be making money while the parents have a more affordable means of travel for the children to and from school.

    What about bus passes for adults. Charge a fixed rate for bus passes also allowing unlimited rides for 1 month. I think that alot more people would catch the Transport Board than minibuses as they would be getting more for their. Money.

  29. dont think so

  30. ROBOT // July 14, 2008 at 4:25 pm

    ADRIAN HINDS !

    ROBOT does not lie unless what was fed to the ROBOT is a lie

    ROBOT -DOES -NOT- LIE
    ROBOT -is correct-about the men on the block and what was said
    =================================

    So Robot which is more importanct to you?

    to be a patriotic law abiding Barbadian?
    or to be a partisan political diehard?

    Will you inform the police about the intent of the guys on the block ?
    Or will you ignore hoping it has the effect of destablizing the Gob?

  31. the Police only reacts when something happens
    –that has been my experience

    they should be monitoring this blog in any case

    if they are talking about wire tapping and all of that, they are monitoring this blog.

    this blog is a source of information so dont put it past the police. they are some very intelligent policemen

  32. Adrian Hinds

    Robot i take your answer to mean that your party regaining power trumps patriotism and love of country.

    …anyway building on my premise that the GoB sees fighting “economic weakness” as the direction to go, and the Oppostions sees “fighting inflation” as the better way to go, and that the former is the approach of the US FEDS while the latter is the approach of the Europeans. Here is a report for you to decide

    “Europe’s Economy Takes a Hit
    By Marcus Walker in Berlin, Joellen Perry in Frankfurt and Jonathan House in Madrid
    Word Count: 1,428 | Companies Featured in This Article: Martinsa-Fadesa, Sumitomo Mitsui Financial Group
    Just a few weeks ago, Europe thought it could escape the worst of the global slowdown. Now it looks like the euro zone, the world’s second-largest economy, is headed for a hard landing and perhaps recession, compounding growth troubles around the world.

    On Tuesday, Spain suffered its largest-ever business failure as construction group Martinsa-Fadesa SA, a company with assets of €10.8 billion, or about $17.17 billion, filed for bankruptcy protection, making it the biggest victim so far of Europe’s bursting real-estate bubbles. That same day, the euro, boosted by the central bank’s inflation-fighting efforts and fears of financial-sector fragility in …”

    Is Mia wrong and David right? only time will tell.

  33. Robot I like I offended you with my opinion. You want an apology?
    Now you talking bout’ VAT. As far as I know I pay hundreds of dollars in a direct income tax every month and still paying VAT on every shit I buy. Since Owen was God why didn’t you tell him to aboloish the P.A.Y.E. and only let us pay VAT?
    I really think you missed my point which was that I pay more attention to my budget than the Government’s budget.

  34. Dear Wishing in Vain:

    I though that one of a qualifications of being a Prime Minister is that one had to be a woman or wife beater.

  35. Thanks for the vid Adrian. I enjoyed it!