In the Defence of the Honourable Prophet Hazrat Mohammad (PBUH)

Submitted by Pachamama

Are we witnessing the result of a clash of civilizations? Credit: Opinion Maker

We would have preferred that our esteemed colleagues, who are experts in the rich and diverse Islamic traditions and its last Prophet (PBUH), be the ones most capable of defending a dynamic set of cultures as followed by two billion people throughout the world. The recent publication of a poorly produced promode of a non-existing ‘movie’ was constructed for the precise purpose of insulting the Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) and his followers and is properly located within a larger struggle which comes at a time when Western capitalist traditions have long passed their apogee. The artificial construction of the so-called clash of civilizations by some in the academic community was merely to serve Western domination of the Muslim world, more precisely – what they now call the Middle East and those Muslims living there.  We will argue that since the collapse of the USSR, Western countries have sought to surreptitiously set up the world of Islam as the global boogeyman, a counterpoint – for capitalism can only exist when it has an enemy. This scenario was to provide a contrast, while at the same time demonize Islam and Muslims while presenting a dying Western liberal capitalism as the ONLY choice for the peoples of the world. The leaders in the West are well aware that Islam has the potential for presenting the nearest and possibly the most viable alternative, in all the cultural spheres, and this is unhelpful to them at a time when the fear of losing global hegemony constantly dominates their geo-political or geo-strategic calculations.

On the one hand, we have had Western military adventures into the Islamic Ummah for more than a century in the modern epoch. Of course, readers of this subject will readily recall the unholy Christian crusades of earlier centuries into the Islamic world.  Western countries, especially the British, the French and the Americans had established compliant oil monarchies and the usurper regime in most of Palestine by 1948. The Zionists still occupied an island previously owned by the Saudis. How can the custodian of Islam’s most sacred places effectively defend Muslims when it has surrendered part of its territory to the ‘infidels’? How can Beitol-Moghaddas ever be recovered with traitors to the Prophet of Islam in power in Arabia? There has not been a word from one single Arab leader. That is way we, the non-believers, must defend the Prophet (PBUH). However, the nation of Islam is awaking and the world is unlikely to be the same. The enemies of the Prophet have done all this, in search of ‘profit’ while containing the universality of the teachings of the Holy Prophet of Islam (PBUH). These teachings are largely antithetical to capitalism. The peoples of Muslim majority countries yet hold onto their core beliefs. These beliefs are largely ‘unfamiliar’ to most in the West, especially those calling themselves Christians. This ignorance suborns the desired responses from too many of us. The ignorant hurl comments about ‘terrorism’ and ‘wife beatings’ when, in fact, the real moral corruption of the world comes from the Western countries. In the final analysis what we are witnessing are the limitations of military might and an inability of the custodians of Islam’s Holiest places to further deceive the masses of the people in their support for global hegemony as the price for maintaining their corrupt regimes at home.

Most people in Western societies are largely unaware that in Islam – Jesus, Mohammad and Abraham (PBUT) are all seen as Prophets. Therefore, there will never be a circumstance where Muslims would retaliate for the ignorance of Westerners by say, abusing Jesus in the way the Prophet Mohammad or even Jesus (PBUT) are often denigrated by us in the West. We often abuse Jesus (PBUH) as we swear. This type of thing is generally unacceptable in the Islamic world. In fact, Arabic and Farsi do not even consider this eventuality. Yes, Islam sees Jesus Christ (PBUH) as a Prophet, not as the son of God, as Christian do. This represents one of the main differences between all three major Abrahamic faiths. Jews that Christians pretend to love so much, up to this day, do not recognize Jesus at all. They still await their Messiah, so a carpenter’s son could not qualify. Most Christians have never even gone to the place where they believe their saviour was born, grew up and lived and there is no requirement to do this. If they did, they are likely to have a Damascus road conversion. But the Christians, especially the rabid dispensationalists, are prepared to create circumstances where millions of people will die in order for their criminal end time ‘prophecy’ to come true.  Moreover, it was the Jews who acted again the Jesus of the Christian Bible. Not to consider any man as the son of God, to an outside observer, seems like a more rationally hermeneutical construction. It is this rationalism that threatens Westerners as more of their populations are converting to Islam every day. Some Islamophobes, in jest, even want to change the name of a major Western capital to Londonistan. Other differences between Islam and Christianity are having resonance in Western Societies. For example, Islam has a different attitude toward family life, marriage and polygamy. There is no man in Barbados that I know who has only one woman. Maybe Islam could show us how we might bring our ‘illegitimate’ domestic activities within a more structured model.

Islam has an alternative narrative on issues of war and peace. It does, like Judaism, but unlike Christianity proselytize, and much more. The Islamic financial architecture is incapable of giving birth to the level of devastation now consuming Western economies. In the absence of interest – charging of money for money, which Islam considers as haram. If Islamic finance were applied to Western economies there would not be in the current deplorable shape that presently is the case. And they CANNOT be fixed without a radical, out of the box solution from another world, the Islamic world. Another structural Western economic problem that Islam has something to say about is the dispersion of cost and the consolidation of benefits to selected individual and corporation. The racist people in charge know these possible answers from Islam well so Islam is deemed as a threat to Europeans and their progeny.  These are other reasons to blaspheme the Prophet of Islam (PBUH) and suppressed possible and real non-Western democratic solutions as given by the Islamic traditions.

We are unable to make the judgment that Islam or its Prophet is/was perfect. Within Islam, the Wahhabi sect of Saudi Arabia continues to destroy historic shrines under the pretext that ancient monuments could encourage idolatry; it supports Western inspired terrorism in Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Afghanistan, Pakistan and elsewhere. It was in the name of Islam that Arabs invaded North African countries and instituted their religion at the tip of a sword and displaced Animism and other authentic and indigenous religions that evolved from the beginning of time. Internal and external forces strive to maintain a near artificial difference between Shia, Sunni, Sufi and other sects. Arabs are known for spitting upon Black people. Even within the royal family of al-Saud, Prince Bandar (Bush) was never to be seen as a likely successor to his brother, the king, primarily because his mother was a black African woman. It was Ayatollah Khomeini who reminded us that in Islam only Allah, not Mohammad, is King. Still, we have the preponderance of Western established petrol monarchies in the Islamic world aimed at servicing Western interests, not those of the Mohammedans.

On the other hand, we have France, the Netherlands and other European countries banning academicians and others who question the efficacy of the established holocaust narrative that is said to have happened in Europe, particularly Germany during World War Two. Merely questioning the ‘holocaust’ can land one in jail in several European countries but the real Holocaust of 100 million African is removed from our collective memory – a Holocaust that was a Jewish project from the beginning to the end and as started by Christopher Columbus, the Italian Jew. Why don’t the Bajans ask why we have the second oldest Synagogue in the Western world? What about the involvement of the Arabs in this global enterprise? Would the Prophet (PBUH) have countenance this massive crime? We humbly submit not.

Followers of Mohammad (PBUH) in some European countries are prevented from wearing hijab and niqab. Even in some Muslim majority countries, like Turkey, the fundamental human rights of Muslims to dress in non-Western ways are outlawed. In Turkey it is against the law for female student to wear Islamic dress. There was a false flag operation targeting New York a number of Septembers ago. They said then that fifteen of the nineteen so-called hijackers were Muslims from Saudi Arabia working with al-Qaeda. Ok, if these were Muslims from Saudi why did they not invade Saudia Arabia? How come Western governments are working with the same al-Qaeda ‘terrorists’ to overthrow the Government of Syria right now? Tell us how come it is the same Saudi regime that is funding this anti-Syrian army? How is it that the criminal regime in Riyadh can find all these resources to kill thousands of Muslims throughout the Islamic world and would not lift a finger to address the biggest obstacle to the Islamic Ummah – the Zionist regime that occupies Palestine? Those of us who have gone to Azerbaijan have seen mass efforts to de-Islamize the country under a Western acolyte. Are these tyrants really followers of the Prophet (PBUH)? These behaviors are all un-Islamic.

Westerners like to talk about human rights and the right of freedom of expression. However, if one were to go in Central London or New York or even Saudi Arabia and publicly proclaim our love for the freedom fighters of Hezbollah under the charismatic leadership of His Eminence Hassan Nasrallah or hail the revolutionary leadership of Hamas for their respective victories over occupation and domination, we will be hauled off to prison for the ‘lack of free speech’. More importantly, should be bring to a popular narration the two military victories over the Zionist usurpers by the Great Iranian Nation, Western apologists will call us supporters of a terrorist state and may even haul us off to Guantanamo Bay or Bhagram. But the beloved Prophet of the Muslim peoples (PBUH) can be denigrated and blasphemed while France and the USA insist that the ‘rights’ of white Westerners are sacred, not the beliefs of two billion Muslims. Does this not make the whole religious philosophical construction questionable, at least? Islam, as sincerely followed, commands the believer to defend the oppressed. It is this central commandment that Western leadership finds uncomfortable.

Nearly a week ago we surmised that the release of this ‘trailer’ was a Zionist-AntiObama-Mormon-Republican plot hatched by elements within the intelligence communities of the USA and Israel. This conclusion was based on an environmental analysis as the issue was unfolding. That environment indicated that Netanyahu was trying to interfere in the US presidential election to force Obama to make concessions that would guarantee a war with Iran regardless to who is elected president. Romney had already given Netanyahu a commitment that he (Romney) will declare a war on Iran if he won the election. So Adelson and all the other Jewish billionaires were flooding the Romney campaign will billions of dollars. But Netanyahu could not be certain that Romney would win. He however knew that Romney will do anything to become president of the USA. But in order to be certain that a war was on the cards Netanyahu wanted an iron clad guarantee from both candidates. No better bet than to get both candidates to make concessions that would guarantee a war where Americans would be sent to die for Israel again. And a lot of them would die in a war with IRI. But Obama was balking, so Netanyahu came to the USA to focus his not inconsiderable political and economic might to force Obama to obey the will of his master (Netanyahu). Imagine, what is wrong with the world when an inconsequential dependant state has the temerity to threaten the leader of the global hegemon? The Zionists have always and will continue to believe that they can determine American foreign policy, issues of war and peace. All this based on the lie that Jews are the chosen people of some god somewhere. The blasphemy against the Prophet (PBUH) represents the work of this devil and its agents around the world to create the circumstances for another war in the Islamic Ummah. Nothing is sacred or sublime with these people!

307 responses to “In the Defence of the Honourable Prophet Hazrat Mohammad (PBUH)

  1. Kiki I got to tell you, you be one strange character, but I luvs ya … HA HA HA …!

  2. @ millertheanunnaki
    We not experts on the Hopi prophecies but we think that they have some powerful ideas that are more ancient than the bible and other prophecies so this thinking could be allowed to compete for our imaginations. As far as I could see no Church Industrial Complex was built around these prophecies for people to make money, fool the masses and conquer other peoples. So we should hold them in high regard. We don’t know what the future holds but when we study the Hopi prophecies they seem consistent with what is happening presently. The Hopi prophesy about the time when human beings will come to a junction when a critical choice has to be made whether our civilization would come to a crushing halt or not is particularly prescient. We face 12 possible types of environmental calamities. Either one can end it all. We believe it has more credence than that book Christians like to talk about all the time. No body has ever had to throw Hopi Spirit Men out of any Temple because they wanted to make money using god’s name.

  3. Bafp,
    NOT strange..
    I posed the Question on BBC
    and a Taliban man replied
    > Moslems are completely disorganised and just angry for being insulted

    no homo

  4. @Millertheannuaki

    My gut tells me (and the Plains Cree said I had good medicine and wanted to keep me on the reserve in Norhern Alberta as a ‘Shaman’) the the Hopi are predicting a disaster of great proportions – nuclear with smoke and fire, but not in North America. Could be in the Middle East and hopefully not Africa. The illness that was foreseen could be radiation sickness in those returning to this part of the world, or coming over for treatment.

    Reminds me of the Inca?Aztec prediction of the coming of the pale faces from across the water, the changing of the gods and the worshipping of a new god of the cross. It all came to pass when the murdering Spaniards arrived.

  5. @Pachamama

    After schooling one of my first jobs was working with an older Welshman. He went to Mexico on holiday and was struck by the carving and figures that represented Africans. He was told these were thousands of years old. Made long before Columbus. He was so impressed he brought me back a silver and sepentine pendant of one of the masks/heads and matching earrings. I still have them somewhere around the house.\

    Be careful what you say about that book of legends, myths and fairy tales that Zoe rants and quotes ad infinitum. He may christen you my sister and daughter of he who dwells below!! ha, ha, ha.

  6. Meanwhile in Roebuck Street Bridgetown
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  7. Hopefully this link should work.

  8. Charles Knighton

    In his letter of Sept. 25, Mr. Suleiman Bulbulia opines: “It is wrong to attack the embassies of sovereign nations, and it is wrong to target innocent people to harm or kill them. It is equally wrong (emphasis mine) to insult, malign, and to make a mockery of a faith, its prophets and followers.”

    If so-called moderate Muslims truly believe there is a moral equivalency between a perceived insult and the murder and mayhem playing out in Islamic nations today, then such “moderates” are a large part of the problem, perhaps explaining why they remain relatively silent when such barbarity occurs. We should not look to them for solutions.

    Charles Knighton

  9. Charles seriously, Bulbulia is speaking diplomatic talk as is expected. Who the hell are you to determine what “moral equivalence” is? … Man shut to f#ck up …!

  10. @ Charles Knighton

    People like you have the temerity to presume that your dying Western ways of thinking is the only standard. You facetiously pretend to be able to talk down to people in the Muslim world when the people whose language this is have invaded Islamic country for centuries killing millions and using weapons of mass destruction which continue to kill the unborn for millennia thereafter. You impose sanction to weaken countries. And when they are weak enough you conspire to invade to destroy their infrastructure so that they can never challenge your Zionist friends. You are a bunch of cowards who are afraid to have an even fight. You speak the language of the barbarians who have used atomic weapons, enslave or colonialised most of the world, committed grand thief of the resources of the peoples of the world. A racist language for a racist people you are! You sons of bitches fought a dirty war for so long against other white people, history refers to it as the 100 year war. Do you really think the people are the world are not on to your deceitful lies. We will not be alive them but you should remember what goes around come around and at some time in the future people of colour are going to repay white people and their sympathizers for all the wickedness done to the people of the world. Like the Jews had Hitler for their involvement in the Transatlantic Slave Trade, white culture require their comeupanse.

  11. @ BAFBFP
    Sometimes if you know know what to look for, if you know how the ‘secret operators’ work and can read between the lines and connect dots, you may a rear insight into why political leaders in Western countries behave the way they do. These are the reasons Western leaders and their Arab petrol sheikdoms don’t line IRI. Have a read.

    http://www.mehrnews.com/en/newsdetail.aspx?NewsID=1706231
    http://www.debka.com/article/22385/Iranian-officers-reshape-Assad%E2%80%99s-Shabbiha-militia-into-a-second-al-Qods

  12. But wait. Did the members of the US contingent feel threatened since they decided not to show up? Maybe there was gum in their chairs and they were waiting for the cleaning staff to do their jobs. Maybe they were called away on an emergency mission. Maybe they thought that the speakers on the day had forgotten to floss or that the air in the room was not up to an acceptable quality. Maybe their luggage was lost in flight and they were left with little to wear. Maybe it was one of those days when it would have been inconvenient to be far removed from toilet facilities for extended periods of time … Maybe …

  13. @ BAFBFP
    hahahahaha
    Obama is trying to get other peoples to fight his wars. They no longer have the capacity. except for drones. cowards

  14. @BAFBFP

    Everybody who got sense frighten for the IRGC, EVERYBODY. You have to go to the Gulp and see how people behave, even foreign militaries, when they are on the scene or somebody say they are coming

  15. @ Bafbfp
    I should of told that Debka is a MOSSAD site run by former spies with connections to the intel com

  16. Pacha

    Forget the woman whistle blower, you better arrange to have a public lecture yourself. I could help

  17. millertheanunnaki

    @ Pachamama:

    What really is going on in Saudi Arabia with the Nigerian female pilgrims doing the Hajj? Is that the way to treat fellow Muslims? Is that kind treatment of treatment reserved only for black Muslims especially black female Muslims?
    Even if the women were on a different mission to provide cheap labour to lazy-ass Saudi households and services to the underground whorehouses frequented by rich Saudi men looking for real exotica erotica why deal with them in such an openly racist and anti-Islamic way?
    One wonders what Mohammed would say or Allah do about this blatant violation of Islamic principles. Saudi Arabia one of the most racist country in the World with a history of enslaving black Africans long before Western Christians. Check the results of the years of sexual exploitation as manifested in the miscegenation of the Ethiopians, Somalis and other ethnic groupings of the Northeastern seaboard of Africa especially along that very large gulf called the Red Sea.

  18. @ BAFBLP
    You think them people would like to hear the hard truths that we will tell them about themselves. Anytime that our views are consistent with the dominant social narrative in Barbados we will conclude that something is wrong with us. Bajans are still sleep walking. But when it comes to people like us they will only use us like court jesters, laugh at us behind our backs while joining with their enemies to undermine us, but nothing more serious than that. Maybe it is better to be like King Dyal. That is why we have no reservation about cussing them from the comfort of the internet. On the internet we don’t have to pay any attention to the archaic libel laws, slander, defamation, the Public Order Act and the unremitting threat they will pose to our economic survival. Remember what these fuckers did to the Great John Cumberbatch, the Great Leroy Harewood, the Great radicals of the 1970’s. We are prepared to help in any we can financially, organizationally or give logistical help to groups etc but we are not particularly interested in being a foot solider for transformation at the political level, in the way you may be suggesting. Been there, done that. This country does not give any political space or see the value of rash hole radical though or radicals like us. All the cultural systems in Barbados are about conformity and we should be committed to their peaceful dismantlement. We imagine that that social landscape is little different that it must have been during the slave period. BAF boy, sorry we were not more forthcoming, You remain always our bother.

  19. Bafp, I’ll give you a talk for a plane ticket and hotel stay

  20. @millertheanunnaki
    There are lot of things wrong with the al-Saud regime. First is is the only country in the world that is named after a person. And it gets worse. Every year around Hajj the world gets glimpses into one of the most repressive regimes on earth. We are not surprised by their treatment of the Nigerians. On the one hand you have a ‘requirement’ that Muslims attend Hajj at least once in their lifetime and on the other hand Saudi authorities go out of their way to make life as difficult as possible for certain Muslims based on political considerations. There is only one solution – get the al-Sauds out Arabia or get Mecca and Medina out of the al-Sauds.

    Afraid you are right about your characterization of the racist past of Arabia. Racism is a current phenomena in Saudi for the Shias of the Eastern provinces, the Yemenis and the Omanis are all phenotypically Africa, so the land had to be partitioned in a certain ways by their sponsors – the British. So are the Bahrainis, so they can be occupied. The irony is that oil seems to dwell under the feet of the Shias and this present the regime with opportunities to be even more repressive. We can guarantee you that this vicious regime will not last much longer.

  21. Wow, the Israeli PM throwing in the punches while on the world stage.

  22. @ David

    Thought you have said he came clean on the 400 illegal nukes he has and promised not to be the Devil anymore

  23. Wait Kiki I thought you did from ’bout hey … HA HA HA. Where U B bro ..?

    Pacha if you ain’ want to do it man send the woman … Send anyone with the alternative (true) perspective on geopolitics … Barbados’ academia needs to be exposed for the brown nosers that they are …! HA HA HA

  24. @Pacha

    The more one listens to both sides over the years the rhetoric just keeps getting harder.

  25. @ David
    That is a false equivalency of the highest order.

  26. Baf P
    Lon Don
    if we don’t like Dem we Gun Dem!

  27. Rom 1 reply, 14: Is the Bible simply a pack of lies only believed by the intellectually defective? (An answer to some dismissive and scornful skeptics at Barbados Underground)

    A few days ago, I chanced across the way some skeptical commenters and contributors at a Caribbean Blog, Barbados Underground, were treating an evangelical commenter. And, as I indicated yesterday, I now intend to take up some of their typical remarks:

    Exhibit A: for the the intellectual midget Zoe the preponderance of evidence that everything believed by him is a lie will never be his reality. But you BAFBFP must be the true intellectual giant among giants. The lies of Zoe’s bible is why there had to Islam in the first place. Everything these Christian, Jewish and Islamic Zionist have touched, from the beginning of their devilish constructions were untrue 6000 years ago and are untrue today . . .

    Exhibit B: Zionist are like Zoe. In fact Zoe means Zionist (smile). The criminal ideology as started in the late 19th century comprises some Jews and Muslims but the overwhelming numbers are fund among the so-called Christians. A lot of so-called Christians are Zionists and do not even know that they propound this evil ideology – like Zoe. In fact most Christians in Barbados are also unwitting Zionists, especially the people who attend the Peoples’ Cathedral and similar Evangelical business ventures that dominate the Barbadian landscape. In the USA all of the spiritual forefathers of this movement, including Billy Graham and his son Franklyn, are known supporters of the Zionist project . . . . We have already declared our willingness to go to their ‘hell’ than to believe anything they preach. In fact, I WANT TO BE FIRST IN LINE . . .

    Exhibit C: Be careful what you say about that book of legends, myths and fairy tales that Zoe rants and quotes ad infinitum. He may christen you my sister and daughter of he who dwells below!! ha, ha, ha.
    The first thing that strikes me is how little of actual argument on the merits there is in the above!

    By contrast, I cannot but notice how much of it is personalities and accusations; much of it being little more than a way to say,

    I do not like Christians,
    I think very little of the Bible (and don’t care to do my homework before I dismiss it as “lies”),
    I hate the gospel which is found therein,
    I despise nationalistic Jews — for, Zionism is simply the Jewish form of nationalism, and
    I detest the God of the Bible.
    In short mocking vituperation has here by and large substituted for serious argument, and bigotry-laced accusation stands in for well-warranted facts.

    Sad, and sadly revealing.

    However, it is worth taking the above up in steps of thought, point by point in succession to help those who would want to know where the true case stands on the merits:
    _________________

    >> Exhibit A: for the the intellectual midget Zoe

    1 –> Contempt laced personal dismissal, rather than addressing facts on the merits. Abuse does not properly stand in for warrant, especially on serious matters where the weight of our souls hangs on the question.

    >>the preponderance of evidence that everything believed by him is a lie

    2 –> Observe, the evidence that “everything believed by [Bible-believing Christians] is a lie” is not adduced or summarised, a sure sign that it is largely missing.

    3 –> In direct contrast, the apostle Peter, about to face a cruel and unjust death at the hands of Nero in 65 AD, on the false accusation that every one knew that the despised Christians “must” have set the fire in Rome, confidently declared:

    2 Peter 1: 16 For we did not follow cleverly concocted fables when we made known to you the power and return1 of our Lord Jesus Christ; no, we were eyewitnesses of his grandeur . . . . 19 Moreover, we possess the prophetic word as an altogether reliable thing. You do well if you pay attention to this as you would to a light shining in a murky place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts.

    20 Above all, you do well if you recognize this: No prophecy of scripture ever comes about by the prophet’s own imagination, 21 for no prophecy was ever borne of human impulse; rather, men carried along by the Holy Spirit spoke from God. [NET]

    3 –> To see some of why he was so confident, let us cite Barnett’s summary of the testimony of early non-Christian historical sources on the basic historicity of the key elements of the gospel, which is what Christians specifically believe:

    On the basis of . . . non-Christian sources [i.e. Tacitus (Annals, on the fire in Rome, AD 64; written ~ AD 115), Rabbi Eliezer (~ 90’s AD; cited J. Klausner, Jesus of Nazareth (London: Collier-Macmillan, 1929), p. 34), Pliny (Letters to Trajan from Bithynia, ~ AD 112), Josephus (Antiquities, ~ 90’s)] it is possible to draw the following conclusions:

    Jesus Christ was executed (by crucifixion?) in Judaea during the period where Tiberius was Emperor (AD 14 – 37) and Pontius Pilate was Governor (AD 26 – 36). [Tacitus]
    The movement spread from Judaea to Rome. [Tacitus]
    Jesus claimed to be God and that he would depart and return. [Eliezer]
    His followers worshipped him as (a) god. [Pliny]
    He was called “the Christ.” [Josephus]
    His followers were called “Christians.” [Tacitus, Pliny]
    They were numerous in Bithynia and Rome [Tacitus, Pliny]
    It was a world-wide movement. [Eliezer]
    His brother was James. [Josephus]
    [Is the New Testament History? (London, Hodder, 1987), pp. 30 – 31.]
    For the complete rebuttal, see
    http://kairosfocus.blogspot.com

  28. @Zoe

    Isn’t Dictionary a Christian therefore obligated to tell the truth? What stumble across a Caribbean blog what. He is so dishonest as to state truly how he came upon the posit by Pacha? Look forward to reading Pacha’s response.

  29. I have repeatedly challenged the likes of Pachamama, Millertheanunnaki el al of their spurious, intellectually dishonest mindset, to offer sound, historical, coherent, proof in rebuttal to the historic Judeo/Christian worldview, the overwhelming preponderence of which, rooted IN* evidence, facts, and patently warranted truth, which they CANNOT dismiss.

    In the blatant presentation of their empty rhetoric, falsity, and ad hominem attacks, laced with geopolitical ramblings, NO substantive essence at all, to refute the historic verasity of God’s Word, the Bible, anchored IN evidence and facts, validating its propositional TRUTH claims, confirmed by external sources, and internal EYEWITNESSES to the life, ministry, Death and Resurrection of God incarnate, none other than The Lord Jesus Christ, and the continued TESTIMONY, of multiplied hundreds of MILLIONS from every KNOWN ethic origin across the world of nations, over the last 2000 years, with miraculous signs and wonders, attesting to the reality of the Resurrected, Ascended, KING OF KINGS, and LORD OF LORDS, God of very God, THE LORD JESUS CHRIST, in whose NAME alone, tormented, lost souls, in Russia, China, Africa, South America, the Middle East, and other countries, and, YES, Muslims, are finding PEACE, JOY, purpose, and the Gift of Eternal Life, IN, BY, and THROUGH, Jesus Christ, and growing rapidly daily.

    For COLOUR of skin, has NO reference whatsoever in God’s Word, it is SIN* that perminates the entire human race, bar NONE!

  30. millertheanunnaki

    @ Zoe | September 28, 2012 at 8:21 AM |
    “For COLOUR of skin, has NO reference whatsoever in God’s Word, it is SIN* that perminates the entire human race, bar NONE!”

    Zoe, for sometime now you deceitfully refuse to respond to the question of the salvation of those Africans enslaved in the Americas for 300 years. These poor souls were not allowed to read the Bible or to receive the good word of your God Jesus.
    What will happen to them? Will they get a free pass to heaven through total ignorance about your god and salvation through sweet blue-eyed Jesus? Or will they been burnt in hell until thy kingdom come? They were already burnt by the Sun so this would be double punishment from God, don’t you think?
    Now tell us about Ezekiel and the visitation by the Spirit!

  31. David! Is that all you can find to pick at?

  32. @Nnaki, I DO NOT march or jump to your drumbeat! Secondly, I have repeatedly challenged you, to respond with historic, valid, coherent, facts to refute the historic Judeo/Christian worldview, AND you remain silent! In ignorance and arrogance, your only response is in ‘redherring’ distractives, selective hyper-skepticism, turnaround accusation, NO sound, refutation, and YOU talk about me being deceitful!

    Will people who never hear of Jesus go to hell?
    This is one of the more vexing questions that Christians encounter (or ask themselves): if Jesus is the only way through which we’re made right with God, what does that mean for people who never hear about him? It’s one thing to hear the Gospel and choose to reject it; but what about somebody who never had a chance to hear, let alone reject, the message of Jesus?

    Christians have taken many different approaches to this question. I’ll highlight responses from two different online ministries below.

    Uplook Ministries answers the question by arguing that God works in people’s hearts in many more ways than just through overt preaching of the Gospel. They conclude:

    God has promised us that, if we seek Him with all our hearts, we will find Him (Jeremiah 29:13). He is not eager for anyone to perish (2 Peter 3:9). “For there is no distinction between Jew and Gentile, (Or Black and White, or any other Colour!!) for the same Lord over all is rich to all who call upon Him. For whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved” (Romans 10:12-13). We do not know how God is dealing with people in lands yet unreached by the gospel, but from Scripture we can see that He will never condemn anyone unjustly, but will be faithful to reveal Himself to anyone who looks for His salvation.

    We also know that John saw in heaven “…a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands and crying out with a loud voice, saying, ‘Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!’” (Revelation 7:9-10). Not only every nation but every tribe will be represented in heaven.

    Notice that they all sing the same song. We are not saying that sincere Muslims or Hindus, trusting in their religion, will make it to heaven. There is only one Saviour, and everyone in heaven will be there through the salvation provided by God’s Lamb, the Lord Jesus.

    Read the full answer at Uplook Ministries.

    The Faith Facts ministry answers the question:

    …the Bible also teaches that Jesus died for the sins of the whole world (1 John 2:2)! And it implies that whoever seeks after God earnestly will find him (Deuteronomy 4:29; Psalm 86:5; Proverbs 8:17; Jeremiah 29:13; Matthew 7:7-8). God is fair as well as just. We are confident, for example, that the Old Testament patriarchs who lived by faith before Jesus’ earthly ministry, are in heaven. So certainly some people have gotten to heaven without knowing Jesus in the personal way that the New Testament speaks of. Ultimately only God can judge as only He knows the individual’s heart. We hold out hope that for those who have not heard but have not rejected God, those have been misinformed, or those who are unable to understand (children, mentally ill, etc) may be pardoned by a just God.

    Certainly, the Bible does not teach “universalism.” Universalism is the idea that everyone gets to heaven.

    The Bible clearly teaches that the only certain way to heaven is through Jesus (John 14:6; Acts 4:12). We are confident that God will not hold anyone accountable for any knowledge he did not receive. At the same time, the Bible emphatically states that Christ is the only sure way to salvation. Anyone who has heard of the saving grace of Jesus, and rejects it, would be thumbing his nose at God (John 3:36).

  33. Zoe too much praying all day long can lead to mental health issues

  34. Listen to Satanically INSPIRED, god-less, DECEPTION, by AH-MAD-DINEJAD, at the UN a few days ago!

    “Last Wednesday, on Yom Kippur, at the U.N. General Assembly, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said: “God has promised us a man of kindness, a man who loves people and loves absolute justice, a man who is a perfect human being and is named Imam al-Mahdi, a man who will come in the company of Jesus Christ and the righteous. By using the inherent potential of all the worthy men and women of all nations the Mahdi will lead humanity into achieving its glorious and eternal ideals. The arrival of the ultimate savior will mark a new beginning, a rebirth and a resurrection. It will be the beginning of peace, lasting security and genuine life. His arrival will be the end of oppression, immorality, poverty, discrimination and the beginning of justice, love and empathy.” The Mahdi will “bless humanity with a spring that puts an end to our winter of ignorance, poverty and war with the tidings of a season of blooming. Now we can sense the sweet scent and the soulful breeze of the spring, a spring that has just begun and doesn’t belong to a specific race, ethnicity, nation or a region, a spring that will soon reach all the territories in Asia, Europe, Africa and the U.S.”… “There is no doubt that the world is in need of a new order…a just and fair order.”… “All the current and past troubles in the world are due mainly to wrong management [by] the self-proclaimed centers of power who have entrusted themselves to the devil.”… “The “continued threat by the uncivilized Zionists to resort to military action against our great nation is a clear example of this bitter reality.”

    Now, listen to the TRUTH, as divinly recorded and inspired, from Almighty God, the Only TRUE and Eternal God, especially as it relates to IRAN!

    God says: “I am against you, Gog, chief prince of Meshek and Tubal. I will turn you around, put hooks in your jaws and bring you out with your whole army—your horses, your horsemen fully armed, and a great horde with large and small shields, all of them brandishing their swords. Persia [IRAN], Cush [northern SUDAN], and Put [LIBYA] will be with them, all with shields and helmets, also Gomer [eastern TURKEY] with all its troops, and Beth Togarmah [TURKEY near the SYRIAN border] from the far north with all its troops—the many nations with you.”… “On the mountains of Israel you will fall, you and all your troops and the nations with you…. I will make known my holy name among my people Israel. I will no longer let my holy name be profaned, and the nations will know that I YAHWEH am the Holy One in Israel.” (Ezekiel 38:3-6; 39: 4,7)

    The Jerusalem Connection says: Concerning The Mahdi that Ahmadinajad glories in, I highly recommend Joel Richardson’s book, “The Islamic Antichrist: The Shocking Truth about the Real Nature of the Beast.” The delusional denial that we are not in a “religious war,” as the Obama administration would have us believe is simply a denial of reality. You can be sure that Iran and its Jihadist proxies believe it and are proving it by their actions. You can likewise be sure that this collision of faith/worldviews will end when YAHWEH is seen as the ultimate sovereign over all He has created. HALELU YAH!

  35. millertheanunnaki

    @ Zoe | September 28, 2012 at 10:15 AM |

    You have as usual quoted from sources that contradict each other.

    On one hand you say that you do not need Jesus’s salvation to get to heaven.
    “We also know that John saw in heaven “…a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands and crying out with a loud voice, saying, ‘Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!’” (Revelation 7:9-10). Not only every nation but every tribe will be represented in heaven.”
    (We can look forward to see those millions of black souls that died in the Middle Passage and on the plantations to be in heaven, after all. Thank goodness for that; the white man has been redeemed!)

    While on the other you argue that the only way to get to heaven is through Jesus.
    “At the same time, the Bible emphatically states that Christ is the only sure way to salvation.”

    Which is the right way to heaven, Zoe? Through Jesus or through good works?

    Zoe, you already know my position on the bible god/jesus myth. Mankind’s God is the Sun and the gods and angels in the bible are extraterrestrials that genetically modified apes to produce beings like you.
    The following is my own philosophy which you can borrow for guidance:
    “Those who seek Salvation must follow the Path that leads to the Light”!
    You will never see this in any book or have heard it from anyone. It’s an original and the theme of a painting commissioned by me.

    The same way your Jesus (the Jewish Apollo) is alleged to have said: In my Father’s House (SKY) there are many Mansions (constellations) so too can be said: In the Son of Man’s abode (Earth) there are many paths (beliefs) that lead to the Light (mankind’s God– the Source of all life on this planet).
    You get me now. Yes Zoe, call me an atheist and condemn me to eternal damnation to burn in hell ad infinitum.

  36. @Zoe

    Yes because Dictionary took the time write to WordPress to shut BU down so it is personal.

  37. millertheanunnaki

    @ David | September 28, 2012 at 11:12 AM |

    Tell us about this “Dictionary”!

  38. @Miller

    Do a search of BU using the search box ‘Dictionary’. An academic who along with Zoe, and Dr. GP have stoutly defended their religious views on BU. He however became offended by retorts from BU’s Hopi,BT, Technician et al.

    At the end of it all we always comeback to the fact that faithbased arguments cannot win this argument.

  39. Just that Dicktionary had /has a very large ego.
    I am appalled to see (am I really) that he actually went to great lengths to shut down BU…what christian behavior.
    At least we see him and Zoe for the deceitful liars they are!
    Passed by a Caribbean blog my a$$…we all know that they read BU every damn day like the morning paper.

  40. @Nnaki/Ralian; Yes, I’m extremely familiar with your unhistoric, unfactual, illogical, HOGWASH alien philosophy, NO facts or evidence whatsoever!

    Again, I CHALLENGE you, to refute, the historical, factually based, EVIDENCE, and warranted TRUTH, over thousands of years, confirming the historic Judeo/christian revelation, over a wide rage of empirical evidence, NOT this utter alien-ATED NONSENSE you believe in!

  41. @Nnaki/Ralian, If it is POSSIBLE, intellectually, for you to read CAREFULLY, again, you will hopefuly see, there is NO contradiction in explaining salvation.

    Then again, you are so ‘spiritually’ inept, plus, intellectually dishonest, that even if you SEE it, its highly unlikely, you’ll have the guts to admit it!

  42. @David.

    “Yes because Dictionary took the time write to WordPress to shut BU down so it is personal.”

    I was/am not aware of this, this is entirely his business, and has no connection to me. That’s between you and him!

  43. Georgie Porgie

    re millertheanunnaki | September 28, 2012 at 11:21 AM |
    @ David | September 28, 2012 at 11:12 AM |

    Tell us about this “Dictionary”!

    “Dictionary” along with Zoe and I posted on BU a few years ago. The man is well read in several subjects and was able to logically and honestly refute a lot of garbage that was spewed on BU, until he got fed up and stiopped here. The fact that he is Jamaican and posted lengthy articles didnt help. But his contributions were to me very educational. Quite unlike the bovine excrement produced here daily.

  44. Georgie Porgie

    kiki | September 28, 2012 at 10:22 AM |
    Zoe too much praying all day long can lead to mental health issues

    Your view seems to be contrary to the tenets of Philippians 4 verses 6 and 7
    ;6 Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God.

    7 And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.

  45. Christians quoting OT …. Yawn ….! Miller you din’ say that Yeshua bin Yusuf returned to Palestine a practicing Buddhist … ? What the hell do I care anyway …

  46. Georgie Porgie
    thank you for an Exegesis
    which is a very big word I was looking at Zoe’s obsession from a medical perspective
    He / She definitely needs an intervention

  47. Can world leaders reach consensus on Syria?

  48. We would hate to think that societies would may to have to consider a legal mechanism to prevent people who are so misguided as to carry a religious dogma to the point where truth becomes a nullity. While our predisposition strives provide space for anyone to worship any god or god system that pleases him or her. But the insatiable need to proselytize to the point where others are threaten with all types of harm should obedience not be rendered to these god demons. They threaten the disbelievers against the preponderance of scientific evidence, NOT FAITH DIATRIBES, about the origins of us all.

    The magisterial works of the Great Charles Darwin have been confirmed millions of times by the use DNA test and particularly mitochondrial testing. In fact and before our detractors cease on our reference to Darwin, we will get more fundamental. Our detractors cite Darwin’s work in relation to apes, as our legitimate common ancestors but the real truth is that ALL life on earth started in the oceans. So instead of rubbishing our beloved ancestor, the apes, science has long known that fish, worms, plants, flies and a host of single cell organism must be seem as the real Creator of life on Pachamama (Mother Earth).

    When hard facts can be proved millions of times over and over again and there are those amongst us who will seek to fly into the face of logic. It may very will be approaching the time when a re-consideration of a perceived need for ideological and religious pluralism in society. Just like the European pass laws to prevent scholars from surmising that the death of sum Jews was not totally true. When will the Christians among us bow down to the real Creator of life and our real ancestors – the single cell organisms, the fish, plant matter etc.

  49. @Pachamama, Darwinian evolutions, has been DEBUNKED, REFUTED, over and over again, as the BIGGEST LIE ever to have being presented as true science, it IS* in fact pseudo-science, to the hilth!

    There Is No Such Thing as the “First Self-reproducing Molecule That Gave Rise to Life”
    General / 2012-03-28
    Türkçe

    The scenario regarding life that Darwinists have been rehearsing ever since Darwin’s time begins with a mythical “first cell” that supposedly came into being spontaneously. This mythical first cell;

    Was described in Darwin’s day as “a small balloon filled with water,” because under the primitive conditions of the time, nobody even knew what the cell really looked like.
    It was irrationally suggested that this alleged first cell came into being spontaneously in water.
    It was claimed that all the varieties of life developed from this first cell that came into being by chance.
    Enormous scientific progress was subsequently made in the 20th Century and the structure of the cell was fully revealed. It was realized that;

    A single cell has a more complex structure than the city of New York.
    That it was impossible for even a single protein inside the cell, let alone a cell itself, to come about spontaneously.
    The idea that the cell came into being in muddy water is therefore scientifically illogical and impossible.
    These facts caused a terrible panic among Darwinists. The fact that the theory of evolution had collapsed RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING OF LIFE totally demoralized them. They wanted to conceal this fact. They set about using the press and universities. “We can probably manufacture protein in laboratories and are conducting experiments,” they said. “There are hypotheses that life began from a single cell,” they said. “We will prove our claims eventually,” they said. But nothing changed over the next 150 years and no evolutionary claim was ever proved. On the contrary, every new scientific advance has proven that no protein can ever come into being by chance.

    Why Do Evolutionists in Turkey Still Espouse Claims That Darwinists Elsewhere Have Abandoned?

    Stunned by a succession of scientific defeats, Darwinists recently, under the leadership of Richard Dawkins, began speaking of a supposed “self-reproducing molecule.” But even this did not rescue the position, and even Dawkins had to publicly admit the illogical nature of the claim, and thus that such a creation could only be brought into being by a sublime intelligence.

    Yes despite all these facts and scientific advances, evolutionists in Turkey insist on repeating the idea. They reiterate such illogical and unscientific ideas as, “We cannot speak of an advanced life form, but we speak of an organization progressing toward life,” “…the first self-replicating molecule created life,” or “….life emerging from inanimate matter is the result of the laws of nature, and there is nothing to discuss about it.” The reason for this is that these people are unable to divorce themselves from the old, fraudulent evolutionist conception of science.

    There Is No Such Thing as a First Self-reproducing Molecule

    Since Darwinists are unable to account for how a protein might have formed spontaneously, they claim that the beginning of life was “a first molecule capable of self-reproducing.” First of all, there is no such thing as a “self-reproducing molecule.” If this molecule was a protein, the smallest units inside the living cell, then it must be borne in mind that proteins themselves have no “self-reproductive” property. In order for a protein to be able to self-replicate, IT NEEDS

    Other proteins
    DNA
    Ribosomes
    Endoplasmic reticulum
    Cytoplasm
    Energy manufacturing mitochondria
    And the cell membrane.
    IN SHORT,

    A FULLY EQUIPPED CELL.

    Therefore, the idea of a “self-reproducing molecule” is totally fraudulent. It is impossible for a molecule not inside a living cell to be able to take in energy from the outside and use it to replicate itself. To refer to this as “an organization progressing toward life” is demagoguery and a deliberate distraction. “Organization progressing toward life” is a totally illogical term. The smallest living thing is “a CELL.” Only a cell and the structures inside it can self-reproduce. Only a cell can take in energy from the outside and use it. Only a cell can maintain its own existence through its own organelles and the energy it takes in from the outside.

    To put it another way, there can be no supposed stages progressing from the inanimate toward life. LIFE CAN NEVER COME FROM SOMETHING INANIMATE. THAT IS ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE. IT IS SCIENCE THAT SAYS THIS, PROVEN, CONCLUSIVE, SCIENTIFIC EXPERIMENTS. When Darwinists say, “….there is scientific evidence that life formed from inanimate matter,” they are not speaking the truth. All research at the molecular level has proved in the 20th Century that life cannot come from what is inanimate; and this has been confirmed by science in the 21st Century. Not even the presence of a protein is enough for a living thing to form. In order to be able to explain life, Darwinists have to account for the formation of a SINGLE CELL. BUT THEY ARE STILL UNABLE TO ACCOUNT FOR HOW A SINGLE PROTEIN MIGHT HAVE EMERGED SPONTANEOUSLY. A tiny protein inside the cell totally demolishes Darwinism.

    Categories
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    THE ATLAS OF CREATION RAZED DARWINISM IN EUROPE

    The way that all of Europe has become acquainted with Atlas of Creation and the declaration of the fact that living creatures have remained unchanged for millions of years and that evolution is devoid of any scientific worth have led to a major change of belief among the people of Europe. Independent polls conducted by well-known publishing institutions in different European countries have revealed a major drop in the numbers of people believing in Darwinism and that belief in Allah now dominates Europe. >>

    In order to create, God has no need to design

    It’s important that the word “design” be properly understood. That God has created a flawless design does not mean that He first made a plan and then followed it. God, the Lord of the Earth and the heavens, needs no “designs” in order to create. God is exalted above all such deficiencies. His planning and creation take place at the same instant.
    Whenever God wills a thing to come about, it is enough for Him just to say, “Be!”

  50. Sorry, the link to the above is http://wwwdarwinism-watch.com

  51. The Amazing Cell
    Evidence for Creation and Against Evolution!
    by Dr. Dudley Eirich onJanuary 10, 2000LaymanKeywords
    author-dudley-eirichmicrobiology.

    As a microbiologist, the bacterial flagellum has always fascinated me.

    The flagellum is a corkscrew-shaped, hair-like appendage attached to the cell surface, which acts like a propeller, allowing the bacterium to swim. The most interesting aspect of the flagellum is that it is attached to—and rotated by—a tiny, electrical motor made of different kinds of protein.

    Like an electrical motor, the flagellum contains a rod (drive shaft), a hook (universal joint), L and P rings (bushings/bearings), S and M rings (rotor), and a C ring and stud (stator). The flagellar filament (propeller) is attached to the flagellar motor via the hook. To function completely, the flagellum requires over 40 different proteins. The electrical power for driving the motor is supplied by the voltage difference developed across the cell (plasma) membrane.

    In 1996, Dr. Michael J. Behe, a professor of biochemistry at Lehigh University (and an evolutionist), published a challenging book to classical Darwinian evolution entitled “Darwin’s Black Box.” In this book he uses the flagellum to introduce the concept of “irreducible complexity.” If a structure is so complex that all of its parts must initially be present in a suitably functioning manner, it is said to be irreducibly complex. All the parts of a bacterial flagellum must have been present from the start in order to function at all.

    According to evolutionary theory, any component which doesn’t offer an advantage to an organism, i.e. doesn’t function, will be lost or discarded. How such a structure could have evolved in a gradual, step-by-step process as required by classical Darwinian evolution is an insurmountable obstacle to evolutionists. How a flagellum is used, however, adds an additional level of complexity to the picture.

    Some bacteria have a single flagellum located at the end of a rod-shaped cell. To move in an opposite direction, a bacterium simply changes the direction of rotation of the flagellum. Other bacteria have a flagellum at both ends of the cell and use one flagellum for going in one direction and the other for going in the opposite direction. A third group of bacteria has many flagella surrounding the cell. These flagella wrap themselves together in a helical bundle at one end of the cell and rotate in unison to move the cell in one direction. If the cell wants to change direction, the flagella unwrap themselves, move to the opposite end of the cell, reform the bundle, and again rotate in a coordinated fashion.

    The structural complexity and finely tuned coordination of the bacterial flagellum attests to the work of a master engineer who designed and created the flagellum to function in a wonderfully intricate manner.

    Dr. Dudley Eirich is a microbiologist who does not apologize for his belief in the literal Genesis account of Creation. A former theistic evolutionist, Dr. Eirich in 1983 became convinced of the fallacy of the evolutionary theory. He is an avid reader of AIG’s Creation magazine and Technical Journal.The following brief article by Dr. Eirich provides ample evidence that the incredible complexity of the flagellum in cells provides overwhelming evidence of a Master Designer. Dr. Eirich welcomes your feedback at eirichd@cs.com
    http://www.answersingenesis.org

  52. Head of the reasoning

  53. Georgie Porgie

    ZOE
    tHE CELL BIOLOGY AND MICROBIOLOGY IS VERY ACCURATE
    IT IS THE ACCEPTED POSITION

  54. Christians are disingenuous by nature ! blinded by faith and belligerent to everything that’s is not biblical

  55. @ Zoe
    Why don’t you give it a rest nuh?
    Evolution is just patent nonsense, designed to provide an excuse for those who choose to refuse to see the obvious. You sound just as foolish trying to quote this body and the next – to refute the evolutionists. THEY BELIEVE BECAUSE THEY WANT TO.

    When BBE designed our world they specifically introduced some anomalies to clearly dismiss any serious belief that the whole could have “evolved” without intelligence.

    ….like the chicken and the egg.
    …like intricate interdependencies between species such that they still cannot (and could not have) survived independently.
    …like highly developed survival skills and requirements that preclude the existence of intermediate steps. (like the duck billed platypus)

    …and like BASIC COMMON SENSE – that the world around us is OBVIOUSLY too complex, too delicate, too balanced and much too beautiful to have just happened without intelligent design.

    Anyone who would suggest that an iPad could evolved from a calculator without intelligent deaign would be laughed out of town as a fool. …but we have “educated” persons suggesting that our immeasurably complex world evolved from some basic cell….

    It would take a real fool to conclude in his heart that there is no Advanced Intelligent Being who would have designed and created our world.
    Either that, or someone who REALLY needs to find some alternative…any alternative to the obvious Big Boss Engineers who had to have engineered the whole project.

  56. @ ac
    You would not know a Christian if one fell on you while you were typing that post.

  57. i would venture to say that the theory of “GOD ” can only be defined by FAith but the theory of evoultion can be defined through TIME! a major force in revealing and unfolding all that encompass life seen and unseen.

  58. @ ac
    Did you not also venture to say that Broomes was clearing out his desk and that his secretary was crying ….months ago?

    Forgive us if we do not place a lot of stock on what you “venture to say…”

    BTW
    In the grand scheme of things, ‘TIME’ is purely a temporary concept used to define and limit man’s existence.
    LOL time itself is not even “real”

    Bushie suggest you concentrate on putting political licks in the old onions as you have been doing for the past months and leave these more challenging topics alone.